Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

he should keep doing it people love that shit

Seems very unfair, doesn’t it?

also I'm sure once he sees all the coverage and jokes about him falling asleep at the trial he won't shut the fuck up about it, because that's the sort of shit that really bothers him. like he brings up the two-hand water thing and walking down the ramp all the time. also the thing where he thought he was running against Obamna. just one more thing to be really really fucking annoying about

his writing style is so relentlessly whiny, it's like he can't write a sentence these days without inserting a minimum of one grievances per five words expended. it's getting beyond self-caricature territory and into the realm of psychosis.

I wonder how many of his drongo followers on Truth Social even read through to the end of his tedious, paragraph-break-free blocks of whiny text.

if his judges are so corrupt, why doesn't he bribe them?

He can't afford it.

He's improved his comma game.

xps Stevie are you Australian? because I can’t think of a more Aussie term than “drongo”

It has long been in the realm of psychosis

just taking a moment to fully appreciate how extremely weird this all is, like for the first time in history a former US president is sitting in a criminal trial (with several more criminal trials on the horizon), and it's for paying off a porn star and falsifying a bunch of records to cover it up. he posts these really erratic word salad screeds about it online but falls asleep at the actual trial. and the thing he's complaining so much about is not getting to see his son's high school graduation, a kid he's never actually acknowledged in the past (Barron didn't even live at the White House did he?), who by the way was the one his wife was pregnant with when he was cheating on her. idk the whole thing is just insane, it kinda reminds me of late-period Rome when emperors would name their horses as Senators or whatever

xps Stevie are you Australian? because I can’t think of a more Aussie term than “drongo”

ha! no I am Britishes but thanks to a childhood misspent on Neighbours and the Paul Hogan Show I am entirely conversant w/Aussie lingo

I wonder if Merchan has any leeway in the number of alternate jurors he can seat along with the main twelve. I think the stress of this trial is going to eat jurors alive.

His tweets have lost the juice since they removed the character limit.

Absolutely no way he would have won in 2016 if you could write those long boring confusing tweets from 2009-2016.

Saw a post pointing out that by blabbing a defense in front of the cameras this morning he essentially walks in that defense. It becomes admissible.

Frogbs OTM

good morning, where's the consequences?

he has to sit through a 6 week trial when he really needs to be out there campaigning and it seems like the only time he gets any sleep now is in the courtroom

I'm seeing discomfort and inconvenience, but still no actual IRL consequences of any sort whatsoever aside from meaningless fines

Speak to the judge about accelerating the trial.

Look if he’s distracted and perpetually mad that’s a good thing and maybe he’ll stroke out.

^^^^

oh believe me I visualize it daily

Speak to the judge about accelerating the trial.

― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, April 16, 2024 11:01 AM (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

the longer this goes the worse it's gonna be for him and it seems likely it might be a while because A) they're having a lot of problems finding jurors and B) he's almost certainly gonna violate his gag order

So the US jury selection system is a mystery to me, in the UK you just get sent a letter then you have to sit on whatever case you're picked for. What happens if they genuinely can't find twelve good men and true who are able to convince anyone that they're never heard of the fella and will judge him impartially? Move the trial to Puerto Rico or something?

is it really true that they are having a hard time? there's a very large pool for this trial and it seems like they are just going through it as expected, lots of people will be excused but they just need to get it down to 12 and maybe backups

I am not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure eventually a judge can just decide to go with what they've got.

that is, jury selection can't be drawn out indefinitely.

Now: Trump's head slowly dropped, his eyes closed. It jerked back upward. He adjusts himself. Then, his head droops again. He straightens up, leaning back. His head doops for a third time, he shakes his shoulders. Eyes closed still. His head drops. Finally, he pops his eyes open.

— Frank G. Runyeon (@frankrunyeon) April 16, 2024

Completely understandable for a very old man.

mine was kind of like that, I was #47 of 50 and got asked much less questions than the first 30 or so did, eventually was placed on it mostly on the principle of "eh, he seems good enough"

not sure if that's gonna happen here though. I do think there are unbiased folks out there who really don't follow the news and just don't vote but they may be hard to find in New York. last I heard they hadn't picked a single juror yet.

fwiw I don't blame Trump for falling asleep here, this part of the trial is really boring, it's just the same questions getting asked over and over and over and over again

i fell asleep a long time ago reading this thread so i get it

I think in many trials they narrow down the jury pool with questions like "Do you think you could be impartial in this case?" then once the individual interviews start the defense and prosecution get a certain number of jurors they can dismiss for whatever reason. The judge can also dismiss people for reasons too.

also according to some smart law folks Trump is actively kneecapping his own defense by publicly stating that he doesn't know who Michael Cohen is, which is gonna make the prosecution's job a lot easier

prosecutors urge the judge to hold DJT in contempt of court over his social media posts today: https://www.axios.com/2024/04/16/trump-contempt-new-york-criminal-trial

Now: Trump's head slowly dropped, his eyes closed. It jerked back upward. He adjusts himself. Then, his head droops again. He straightens up, leaning back. His head doops for a third time, he shakes his shoulders. Eyes closed still. His head drops. Finally, he pops his eyes open.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8b/01/f0/8b01f0767bc313cf6c18cb10854bf7f6.gif

being unable to stay awake is one of the more relatable things he's done

being unable to stay awake is one of the more relatable things he's done

I would theorize he's laying the groundwork for some Junior Soprano/Vincent "The Chin" Gigante "I'm just a sad, senile old man, Your Honor — have pity" action, but I think the real truth is they took his Adderall away to keep him from flipping out in court and making things worse, and they haven't calibrated a correct new cocktail of pills for him yet. Give the pit crew another day or two and they'll have him dialed in.

I think in many trials they narrow down the jury pool with questions like "Do you think you could be impartial in this case?" then once the individual interviews start the defense and prosecution get a certain number of jurors they can dismiss for whatever reason. The judge can also dismiss people for reasons too.

Yes, peremptory challenges -- a standard feature. This is exactly what happened in the case I was almost seated on last week. (The judge dismissed two alternates first, then the prosecutor dismissed me; at least one other main juror was dismissed too -- ran into him in the hall outside as I was getting ready to leave -- and I suspect there were more.) The official language at least in this situation/court was that we were 'thanked and excused' as opposed to being to told to fuck off out of there or something. (The judge did indicate that it would be polite not to act too unduly happy if we were excused, which I kept in mind.)

What happens if they genuinely can't find twelve good men and true who are able to convince anyone that they're never heard of the fella and will judge him impartially?

There are almost 1.7 million people in Manhattan, this won’t happen. It’s only day 2.

fuck this piece of shit

Yes, that too.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLTbnPAXEAA_LVN?format=jpg&name=large

love to see it

*gasp*

you mean it's not that easy to make magic millions?

Sad trombone

It was always blindingly obvious that taking Truth Social public was solely a device to enrich Trump and a small handful of his co-conspirators by soaking a few hundred thousand rubes along with any greedy, but slow-footed speculators who tried to enrich themselves by grabbing onto Trump's coattails. All that talk of a $5B valuation they floated to the public ahead of time was pure hogwash, but it was catnip to the media, so the rubes all got the word. And here we are.

I wonder if Merchan has any leeway in the number of alternate jurors he can seat along with the main twelve. I think the stress of this trial is going to eat jurors alive.

― Ippei's on a bummer now (WmC), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:23 (three hours ago) link

Yeah, it occurred to me that the people most likely to be selected are those who are the least aware that Trump will happily badmouth them and, if possible, their families to his army of online cronies (how many of these unfortunate souls are gonna wind up getting doxxed). Like, actually being selected as an impartial juror in a Trump trial probably means that you've been living in some sort of bubble for the past eight years minimum and that reality is about to come at you fast.

I'm honestly surprised that it has held onto as much value as it has for this long, it should be much closer to zero

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