Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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“should I just switch to Apple Music?”

rendered nugatory (morrisp), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 00:09 (one week ago) link

The people who don't care that much are the passive consumers, and a minority of people are actively seeking/curating, and I think that's fine? Most people over 25 don't care that much about music.

Yeah, in the past most people just listened to the radio, how much has really changed? (On the consumption side, as opposed to the remuneration side, of course).

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 06:19 (one week ago) link

They did finally add the thing to tell you what playlist(s) a song is already in at least.

Andrew Goldsoundz (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 18:41 (one week ago) link

That's been a big improvement for me. It also makes it much easier to remove an entire album from a playlist when I'm using the mobile app.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 18:43 (one week ago) link

keep having thumbnails for shows I listen to a lot not connecting. being told oops can't find that page. rotten set up.

Stevo, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 19:04 (one week ago) link

this isn't even the first time that Kyle Chayka had vern

muscle memory that builds up when you use a piece of software every day, like your thumb going directly to the Instagram app button on your phone screen. Spotify had updated its interface and suddenly I was lost. I couldn’t put on the jazz record by Yusef Lateef that I play every morning when I start writing and I couldn’t figure out where to find the songs I had saved by pressing the heart-shaped like button. The sudden lack of spatial logic was like a form of aphasia, as if someone had moved around all the furniture in my living room and I was still trying to navigate it as I always had. Spotify’s new “Your Library” tab, which implied everything I was looking for, opened up a window of automatically generated playlists that I didn’t recognize. The next tab over offered podcasts, which I never listened to on the app. Nothing made sense.

jaymc, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 20:25 (one week ago) link

oops...posted too soon

this isn't even the first time that Kyle Chayka has been disoriented by Spotify.

an excerpt from his book:
https://kylechayka.substack.com/p/essay-the-digital-death-of-collecting


"I opened the Spotify app on my laptop a few weeks ago and found that everything I had saved was in disarray. The albums weren’t where I thought they were. I couldn’t flip through them with my usual clicks, the kind of subconscious muscle memory that builds up when you use a piece of software every day, like your thumb going directly to the Instagram app button on your phone screen. Spotify had updated its interface and suddenly I was lost. I couldn’t put on the jazz record by Yusef Lateef that I play every morning when I start writing and I couldn’t figure out where to find the songs I had saved by pressing the heart-shaped like button. The sudden lack of spatial logic was like a form of aphasia, as if someone had moved around all the furniture in my living room and I was still trying to navigate it as I always had. Spotify’s new “Your Library” tab, which implied everything I was looking for, opened up a window of automatically generated playlists that I didn’t recognize. The next tab over offered podcasts, which I never listened to on the app. Nothing made sense."

jaymc, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 20:29 (one week ago) link

I like Chayka generally, though I think he's overstating the degree of bewilderment here to make his broader point about how algorithms shape our experience. The book is unfortunately kind of lazy in its argumentation, even as his contentions *feel* right if you are, like him, a longtime internet user who's become recently disenchanted with it.

jaymc, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 20:36 (one week ago) link

I really don't understand his thing about these services turning us into passive consumers if even a small app update throws him into an existential crisis. It's like someone throwing themself on the floor at Tower Records because they have to walk past the magazine section to get to the CDs.

Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 20:44 (one week ago) link

I do get that Spotify emphasizing playlists might make some people less likely to play full albums, but to complain so hard about app feng shui is weird.

Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 20:46 (one week ago) link

Looks like they’re reducing royalties by classifying their regular Premium service as an audiobook bundle (after introducing a standalone audiobook tier): https://variety.com/2024/digital/news/spotify-music-audiobook-bundle-lower-royalty-for-songwriters-1235974942/

rendered nugatory (morrisp), Friday, 19 April 2024 20:28 (one week ago) link

Spotify CEO Daniel Ek surprised by how much laying off 1,500 employees negatively affected the streaming giant’s operations

Fortune headline

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 14:29 (one week ago) link

https://fortune.com/europe/2024/04/23/spotify-earnings-q1-ceo-daniel-eklaying-off-1500-spotify-employees-negatively-affected-streaming-giants-operations/

But he says they’re back on track now on a path to long term profitability.

Ugh

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 14:32 (one week ago) link

what a piece of shit that guy is. it's amazing to me he's even willing to show his face in public!

budo jeru, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 14:52 (one week ago) link

more amazing that anyone still admits to and / or rationalizes subscribing to this service

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 18:48 (one week ago) link

It's a go-kart powered by my own sense of self satisfaction.

Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 18:50 (one week ago) link


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