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Kataklysm suck.

My contribution to the thread

I fully expect this guy to be his generation’s Stevie Wonder except perhaps even more popular

I don't see that happening given that he is essentially the age Stevie Wonder was when he made Hotter in July.

Norm Rundgren. Todd's little cousin.

― scott seward, Tuesday, April 23, 2024 4:35 PM

"norm rundcore." todd's little cousin's smarty pants power pop band.

sorry we're venturing off into The most interesting pieces of pop music trivia that you know (that are 100% false) territory but, otoh, #onethread

that thread, forgot if ever knowed by me, made me laugh a little, ty

love that you took this to the controversial thread <3

I don't know what it would take for me to actually go to a Collier show, and I don't know if I want to be convinced that he's actually not that annoying, but I appreciate your report and insights

I believe Collier is benefitting from the other end of the spectrum, maybe; that our ears are thirsting for music that modulates.

you should try listening to more of my recommendations then! modulations, melodic wildness, intricate composition, and all with aesthetic sensibilities that aren't prog jason mraz

Imago you and I agree on so much good music that it’s almost boring discussing it with you, “x is good” “aye yes it is”

My point is that the Jason Mraz approach— and please, Collier hasn’t written anything as ridiculously hooky as “I’m Yours”, fair comparison tho— serves as a workable foundation for his chopswankery and toxic ebullience. It works because of the corniness, not despite it, that being adjacent to “children’s music” is a suitable place for somebody who wishes to exist simultaneously as a pop star and as a music educator, succeeding brilliantly at the latter

A colleague and I were shittexting each other and she asked if I found him attractive. “In a very specific and singular way? I don’t want to hate-fuck him. But I do want to hate-date him, hate-propose to him, hate-marry him, and live on til old age with him, only because it’d be hilarious”

oh i'm very much enjoying your defence and praise of collier here, don't get me wrong. it strikes me, much like 80s Crimson, like seeing (or hearing) it live is the ideal. i like how you describe him as a musical educator more than a composer; there's definitely room in music for children's magicians

How do you rate Bobby McFerrin?

lol

T/S: Instagram Reels Todd Rundgren vs. Prog Jason Mraz vs. The Sweet Release of Death

give me the latter, all of this sounds terrible

I only know the Yo-Yo Ma album. The McFerrin originals are perfectly executed New Age and I could listen to them all day. The rest of the album is not for me

Another good comparison point here re Collier might be the Gallic god himself Jean-Michel Jarre, bringing electroacoustic music to the masses— although one could argue that Collier’s sources (jazz, gospel) are a more problematic thing to bake into cupcakes— but again, Quincy Jones and Herbie Hancock and an extremely diverse crown of 8000 elated people would disagree

Mrason Jazz

Also: part of the appeal of Collier, to me, was to attend the concert with the best keyboardist I know, the best guitarist I know, and me being fairly top-drawer myself at harmony and arrangement, and to see this pipsqueak play circles around all of us on our respective foci. Not a minute went by where I didn’t have a “well shit how’d he do THAT?” moment about a particular modulation

Note also that I did listen to 2/3rds of a Taylor Swift album the day before seeing this guy, songs from which make up the entirety of the Billboard 200, seeing something so uncynical, shorn of any victimization or swipes at exes, more content in 30 seconds than that album had in the entire 44 minutes of if I actually listened to; I was in a hopeless place. Desiccated by the Monocultural Uber-Karen. Collier was more Court And Spark than Taylor could ever hope to be.

My guitarist takes issue with the sexlessness of Collier’s presentation, that it renders his songs-about-intimacy meaningless. “I would do shots out of his navel; not in a sexual way, just to get drunk,” I said. “I wonder if we’re feeling now the same way people felt about Elton John before he was a big obvi gay gay. Like confused by the dorkiness if it but charmed nonetheless.” Collier also covered Queen (“Somebody To Love”).

I do appreciate your posts itt fgti

Monocultural Uber-Karen I’m dying

"Dessicated by the Monocultural Uber-Karen" should be on the next Carcass album.

fgti good post, yes. uber-karen, nice. good work.

however, i must say a special thank you for reminding me of the word "dessicate." ask me if i love that word and everything it stands for.

i totally do.

Oh special addendum, we went to a bar after the Collier show and were served drinks by a lovely woman who turned out to be Sahara from the short lived Canadian pop band Sugar Jones

Sahara from Sugar Jones: “Who did you guys see?”
fgti: “Jacob Collier”
Sahara from Sugar Jones: “Who?”
fgti: “British prodigy musical polyglot”
Sahara from Sugar Jones: “What?”
fgti: “white Stevie Wonder”
Sahara from Sugar Jones: “Ohhh, I’m familiar with Jamiroquai”

no Jamiroquai could write at least one good song

Jamiroquai is deeply classic obv

lol jamiroquai

the man NEVER thanked his hat. not once.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErOUi9dXAAA4t1J?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

Thank you Omar that is my new favourite image

revenge of the space cowboy

Thank you Omar that is my new favourite image

― Drowning in TG, he sent me Discipline (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, April 24, 2024 10:05 AM

second.

(orange juice "i can't help myself" was playing upon first glimpse. good soundtrack for that image.)

ha that's a Jim'll Paint It

AC/DC should have taken greater care with their lyrics to prevent unintentionally sexualized interpretations of ambiguous texts among listeners.

any ac/dc lyric that can't be interpreted as sexual innuendo should've been re-written

they just did sexual intendo

Steve Marriott is kinda annoying

hiii musically speaking vanessa williams can shake you to your core in a deeper way than beyonce can

xoxo

Steve Marriott is kinda annoying

Kinda? He's basically a minstrel show act.

Recent talk on the Dio in Sabbath thread led me to an unexpected conclusion... I prefer Dio Sabbath to Ozzy Sabbath

sexual intendo

called Sexual Famicom in Japan

Did Black Sabbath ever do sexual intendio?

yeah, "N.I.P."

"The Straightener"

they just did sexual intendo

Sexual outuendo

called Sexual Famicom in Japan

Underrated post!