C/D Paul McCartney Solo

actually maybe if he *doesn't* want to fuck them they suddenly become more interesting to him as human beings which is a weird kind of sexism but he's a weird person

It was noticeable, seeing him live at Glastonbury, that there wasn't a single woman on stage, and only one in the long list of worky thanks (the one in charge of the big screens). It got me thinking how rarely he has collaborated with women in his solo career other than with Linda. Maybe he just doesn't trust himself, the old horndog.

i definitely don't hear "another day" as cheerful or celebrating domesticity, it's more ambivalent than that, there's some melancholy to it as paul apparently claimed

every time this thread gets bumped i just think about how "silly love songs" is one of the greatest songs ever recorded

i definitely don't hear "another day" as cheerful or celebrating domesticity, it's more ambivalent than that, there's some melancholy to it as paul apparently claimed

― ufo,

The bridge for sure.

Yep - “sad, so sad, sometimes she feels so sad / alone in her apartment she dwells, till the man of her dreams come to take her hand”. It’s all existential dread and quotidian numbness. Nothing remotely domestic about it.

oops “comes to break the spell” is it?

the most remarkable thing is how he's taking the perspective of so many women he fucked (over) for whom he was the man of their dreams

for no one is kind of like a bridge between another girl and another day in terms of perspective and empathy and I like to think it demonstrates real growth

I mean those guys were in a bubble in a hugely sexist society from the age of 18 onwards, so it’s unsurprising they would have warped views of relationships from a current perspective.
I like the anecdote that the French horn player saw the chart music titled “For No One” and thought the group had arrogantly decided it was going to be a number one hit.

what I can't decide is whether it's secretly a bit queer or just sexist for mccartney to be offloading his emotional baggage onto all these semi-fictional women he sings about

it wasn't just a bubble it was both a surrogate family and (semi-open) polycule

I don't think any of them were ever not weird about relationships during or after that and how could it be any other way

Thread takes a turn.

All this talk about Paul and fucking kind of makes me realize how devoid of carnality his post-Beatles music is. There are a few – “Eat at Home” is a particularly hilarious one. But by and large, there is very little lasciviousness to Solo Paul and I wonder how much of that was what fired the resentment of the likes of Xgau.

why do you think I love "Press"?

that's it yes

some people never forgave linda for taking the biggest slut of the 60s off the market as it were

I assume that goes for a lot of the ostensibly straight boomer rock guys too since they would never shut up about how pretty he was and how he should have done better (married jane and kept fucking around I guess)

You are proving my point, Alfred.

"For No One" is def. ice cold. But I am failing to see evidence that Paul was some toxic misogynist if that, indeed, is what is being suggested by some here.

I always thought Junior's Farm was nonsense lyrics, but it's actually a clever little thing about capitalism, isn't it? Looking forward to One Hand Clapping coming out.

― timellison, Saturday, 4 May 2024 20:47

?? There's one line about inflation, that's all I can see. The poker stuff is about Beatle/Apple breakup negotiations, innit

re: carnality: "Hi Hi Hi!"

^^^ definitely about fucking a banana

Let's not forget Fuh You

Actually, let's forget Fuh You

https://i.imgur.com/4dR9bVN.gif

(xp) I only wish I could.

https://i.pinimg.com/474x/78/d2/d4/78d2d413459d6f77bf405e78b050065e.jpg

coming up!

I don't find any of the Beatles a bit attractive. Maybe young George? But he would've sulked me to death.

not sure why I posted that it seemed vaguely relevant to the fucking discussion

there are some really hot ones out there but this isnt a thirst trap thread unless the thirst traps are songs which he has plenty of

I find each of them attractive or unattractive at different times in different eras

pepper john is the hottest john not sure if that's a hot take or not

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/nov/21/fireman-electric-arguments

apprently not his finest hour.

― titchyschneiderMk2, Friday, November 21, 2008 4:19 PM (fifteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

but close to it. "sing the changes"!

"fluid" on rushes is the nearest he ever approached bitches brew (released just a month or two before let it be)

This has been pegged by the more excitable tabloids as a hate rant against Heather Mills

lol i'm sorry but this word choice is a low blow

I always thought Junior's Farm was nonsense lyrics, but it's actually a clever little thing about capitalism, isn't it? Looking forward to One Hand Clapping coming out.

― timellison, Saturday, 4 May 2024 20:47

?? There's one line about inflation, that's all I can see. The poker stuff is about Beatle/Apple breakup negotiations, innit

― glumdalclitch, Monday, May 6, 2024 8:48 AM (six hours ago)

Yeah, but specifically about MONEY and how it's earned. Or not earned, you just have to play the game. And what happens in the seats of power - "We all chipped in for a bag of cement." And what someone is willing to do for a couple of pence.

Re. sexuality in his songs - "Alligator" on New.

coldblooded, that one

Actually, the next song on that album ("On My Way to Work") also.

Re. sexuality in his songs - "Alligator" on _New._

Actually, the next song on that album ("On My Way to Work") also.

are old people not allowed to be horny? or do you want more appropriate expressions of horniness whatever that would look like? I mean the queen is dead so what do you want from him

and he already made the most unsexy sexy song ever decades ago it's called temporary secretary

My nursing home crack probably made that sound more ageist than it was intended. I just don’t think either of those songs are sexy or carnal in any way. They’re mostly just kind of sad and lonely.

This catchy motherfucker OTOH …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWYlWvtEyio

(h/t Alba)