why are 'british' films shit?

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don't think so. 'hot fuzz' was financed by universal (or whoever working title is a subcontractor for). 'lock, stock' *possibly* was done outside of the system, but 'snatch' would have had been done with the US market in mind.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 14:22 (sixteen years ago) link

I didn't know that you read The Guardian.

admrl, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 15:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Also, this thread makes me wonder what happened to Peter Mullan? As a director, I mean.

admrl, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 15:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Wot no love for Thunderpants?

(Srsly - it's really good! And Rupert Grint can act his little socks off - far more than the other guy in that slightly more famous series of films he's been in lately).

Sarah, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 15:31 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Maybe this is why?

Too impatient to train as an actor, and having briefly tried the traditional route of castings and pumping connections, Fucilla decided to buy his way in.

Soon Phil Davis, Paul Kaye and MC Harvey of So Solid Crew were on board, too...

the acquired taste that is howard wolowitz (Ned Trifle II), Saturday, 5 December 2009 11:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Phil Davis' optimism is a joy.

"Sometimes a film looks fantastic. Everyone's excited and talking about the genius of this and that, how it's going to be a masterpiece, and it turns out to be poop. And sometimes the opposite is true. It seems to be a complete nightmare, but then it all comes together. And no one would be more pleased than me if that happened to The Big I Am."

the acquired taste that is howard wolowitz (Ned Trifle II), Saturday, 5 December 2009 11:56 (fourteen years ago) link

what underpinned Fucilla's ambition, friends and workmates agree, what made him stand out from every other fantasist and wannabe, was self-belief and a monumental ego

errr

SBanned of Brothers (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 December 2009 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Phil Davis, Paul Kaye and Steven Berkoff

Enjoy the work of these 3 dudes

a young thug's brutal coming of age

oh fuck off

SBanned of Brothers (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 December 2009 13:57 (fourteen years ago) link

The opening sentence alone!

Brixton-born City trader Robert Fucilla had succeeded in everything he had put his hand to, from selling oil to backing British hip-hop acts, and believed his Italian ancestry gave him a shot at being a British Al Pacino.

It's like the only logical response is "Wow, I hate you."

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 December 2009 13:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Also:

"Madsen was to wear silver shoes, Berkoff an aqua blue latex suit. All the stylistic things were coming off."

I'm reading this and all "Wait...it's a superhero movie now?"

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 December 2009 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link

And a literal LOL here:

Shooting was just days off when Gregory, the would-be joyrider, confessed that he could not drive.

:-D

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 December 2009 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm gonna let this one slide cos I'm a lazy man but srsly guys the next Brit Gangster flick that comes out I'ma beat the director to death okay guyz?

SBanned of Brothers (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 December 2009 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Vinne Jones stars as Noodle, an internet hardman with a brutal grudge against shit british gansgter film directors. Directed by Guy Ritchie.

poster x (ledge), Saturday, 5 December 2009 14:12 (fourteen years ago) link

When I was in a band some dude in the local paper said I looked like Gazza so rong leading man rilly

SBanned of Brothers (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 December 2009 14:16 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

what are the funniest british movies ever made? it's occurred to me that 'in the loop' might genuinely be the funniest.

blah life of brian blah withnail and i blah ealing blah blah blah.

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link

No way am I pushing a dinghy out into the tsunami-laden waters of ILXors sensayuma. Brian and Grail are v. funny tho. Nuts in May too, tho not properly a movie I suppose.

Shart Habit to Break (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link

I have this fundamentalist notion that funny ought to mean "makes you properly laugh til you hurt", tho, so on that level I don't think most funny films are funny.

Shart Habit to Break (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link

I agree. Shaun of the Dead is a modern classic, but that's beyond just the laffs.

moron oil (Gukbe), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe not an obvious choice, but there are many moments of sublime comedy in A Room For Romeo Brass. And it's a brilliant film as well.

x-post - damn straight NV, Nuts In May is hilarious.

Bill A, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 18:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, my favourite movies (the two late Bunuels with long titles) are only occasionally thigh-slapping laugh-till-cry funny, but have a fundamental, all-knowing humour to them, which makes them profoundly funny IMO (the wit of a man who has lived on a mountain for 80 years), but yeah I'm kinda going more for the outright lols here.

In The Loop made me laugh harder than any other British movie ever. And was the most I've laughed in a cinema.

Ooh, would like to see Romeo Brass and Nuts In May now!

Shaun Of The Dead is very good for almost an hour, very lame for 40 minutes imo.

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Paddy Considine's debut in ARFRB is completely beyond my pitiful powers of description - if you've not seen it then the dvd is four quid on Amazon at the moment, for the price of a pint it's an absolute steal.

Bill A, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm deeply agnostic on SotD precisely cos I think it's free of belly-lols. But I like lots of comedies that don't make me lol, especially old comedies that tend to be excused by the shifting fashions of what's funny.

Simon del Desierto has got Bunuel's best proper lolz I think.

Gregory's Girl still has its moments. I think Britannia Hospital had some rich, bleak lulz but it's been a long time. The Likely Lads is probably the best sitcom to movie conversion but rollicking laughs is never really that show's point.

I've just gone thru a list trying to remember anything else but jaysus there's been a lot of slightly warm feeling minor smirk shite made in this country.

Shart Habit to Break (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Gregory's Girl still has its moments.

oh fuck I forgot Local Hero!!!!!

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link

altho Local Hero is one of those not-laughing-a-lot-but-very-good comedy movies to which you allude

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I like to think of "Comedy" in a broader Shakespearean sense and "funny" in a "I am actually laughing" sense.

Shart Habit to Break (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, that works. also means that those bunuel movies are comedies. awesome.

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

(obscure object might well be a tragedy, come to think of it...gah, definitions)

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link

LJ if you get a chance to see Nuts in May you shd also try and find Jack Rosenthal's 70s classic Another Sunday and Sweet F.A. which features the internal monologue of a severely depressed Sunday league referee iirc.

Shart Habit to Break (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link

:D :D :D awesome

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:23 (fourteen years ago) link

A lot of Britain's best 60s/70s/early 80s movies were shot as Play for Today made for TV dealies basically.

Shart Habit to Break (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link

wait isn't ARFRB about a psycho dude? considine wasn't funny in that, he was terrifying! iirc.

Patriarchy Oppression Machine (history mayne), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link

A Fish Called Wanda? Haven't seen it in years though, so maybe it's actually shit.

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Don't rate most of Wanda but maybe the Michael Palin (?) offing random pets scenes are good?

Shart Habit to Break (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Those are definitely the bits that stick in my mind, pretty funny performance by Palin.

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link

iirc 'wanda' is pretty funny.

Patriarchy Oppression Machine (history mayne), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

>wait isn't ARFRB about a psycho dude?

Sure you're not thinking of Dead Man's Shoes? Considine goes full psychopath in that, his turn in ARFRB is menacing at times but not really terrifying.

Bill A, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

no im thinking about the one with the disabled kid... it's been a while but my recollection is considine was scary. n e way he is very good.

Patriarchy Oppression Machine (history mayne), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

'hot fuzz' is pretty fuckin funny.

Patriarchy Oppression Machine (history mayne), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Considine's kid brother in Dead Man's Shoes is disabled. One of the main kids in ARFRB has a bad back, but that's about it.

Bill A, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Jack Rosenthal's 70s classic Another Sunday and Sweet F.A

See also P'tang, Yang, Kipperbang.

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link

'hot fuzz' has its moments but isn't a top-rank comedy by any means imo

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link

xp Although, again, it's not lough out loud funny. Last British film I saw that made me laugh out loud was Oh, Mr Porter!

Next train's gone!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBMHU1BJXCw

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link

"I'm Alright Jack" isn't bad fwiw but we're getting into Tweeling territory here

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Nothing wrong with that.

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Love I'm Alright, it's got some pretty sparky/direct satire compared to a lot of the Ealings plus one of Sellers' toppest performances and one of the saddest lines of all time: "I see from your particulars you was at college in Oxford. I was up there meself. I was at the Balliol summer school in 1946. Very good toast and preserves they give you at tea time, as you probably know."

Shart Habit to Break (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link

And obv I will rep for all of the Powell & Pressburger comedy-ish movies above pretty much anything else but again comedy not lollery.

Shart Habit to Break (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link

It's a long while since I saw it but I remember it being pretty good (re: IAJ).

AMOLAD is a very good film.

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link

are we ignoring carry on, or

henri grenouille (Frogman Henry), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link

far prefer hot fuzz to shaun of the dead

henri grenouille (Frogman Henry), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link

think it's severely underrated. the only thing i don't like is the big gun battle but considine effing kills it in that film.

Patriarchy Oppression Machine (history mayne), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link


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