Porn: Classic or Dud?

Le Bateau Ivre, you missed out 80's porn.

I guess I did, entirely!

What's that like? Pink stockings, hair bands and the likes? ;)

Big 80's hair, crappy video camera technology, vague attempts at plot, general feeling of dissatisfaction.

The clumsiness of it all sadly makes it slightly appealing to me. It's as bad as 80s hair metal isn't it?

I mean, anyone who feels nostalgic for the 80's should go and watch some random 80's pr0n, and in no time at all they'll be glad they live in the 21st century.

I think only the 80s could give us something as goofily awesome as "Sex Asylum 3: The Search For The Big Bamboo".

Do they end up finding it?

Yeah, but it got into mainstream acting and did the Ramboo films

(xxpost) I would like to refer readers to that "clown porn" thread from a few days ago...

80's softcore porn is the best. Playtime with Monique Parent is the masterpiece of the genre.

Play time is from 1994: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110846/

But kudoos for Monique Parent vividly posting on her own fanboard:

"The answer is no. We were not really masturbating. But yes, our hands WERE in our bikini bottoms, and yes, there really is nowhere else to put your hand once it's down inside a bikini bottom so in effect we were....but without intent, so we weren't. Does that make any sense"
http://www.uniquemonique.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

i guess really lame would be like...a paid burning angel membership

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Heheh - I'm shocked - it looks like the 80s! And has all this...

Big 80's hair, crappy video camera technology, vague attempts at plot, general feeling of dissatisfaction

It's also funny though.

It is! As his girlfriend I'd totally forgive Hurting for watching it every now and so ;)
Speaking of which... I'd like to see the brave man return to this thread!

I don't really understand getting overly upset about porn unless the guy is spending hours every single day watching it or is into something really bizarre and/or offensive.

xxxpost haha paid membership to any porn site = lame

yeah i'm fine with it as long as it's free.

yeh if you can't find good free porn but are still watching it you aren't trying hard enough

Someone is going to make a Gates mint one day figuring out how to make comedy porn that's actually funny.

"ironic porn purchase leads to unironic ejaculation"

ironic lil wayne cd purchase leads to unironic ejaculation

Well, I wasn't hiding it from my wife, and she tolerated it but wasn't really crazy about me looking at it, especially the more hardcore stuff. But my decision to stop was totally my own - just out of the blue one day said "Hey, I've decided to quit looking at porn." As far as how much I was looking at it - not enough to interfere with work or responsibilities or anything but enough that I felt like it was kind of dulling my sex drive and imagination. And something had also just become depressing and lifeless and compulsive about the experience itself - clicking through dozens of clips, looking for the exact right cumshot, etc. And in part I just wanted to try quitting as an experiment, and so far I like the effects, although it hasn't been that long.

(note, I made clear that this does not mean I'm quitting wanking)

GOOD ON YA

there are some sites that give hope (ifeelmyself etc), but then again , i only like that site after becoming boed with 80s / 90s hardcore stuff. as someone that grew up with magazines, i'm interested in how 80s kids think about their pron v. sex habits...?

I don't need porn. I just undress, arrange my games, guns and ammo on my bed and I take pictures while posing with them.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/06/at-least-16-previously-unpublicized-hiv-cases-in-porn-film-performers-public-health-officials-say.html

:/

'i used to have dialogue'

I have a really weird relationship with pron. On the one hand I totally defend anyone watching it and I also read about it, but watching it seems less interesting to me. I will once or twice watch a shitload of clips (per year) but after that I stop for a year or so. Overall though I am not really that fascinated by the pron itself, but I have a keen interest in the discussion.

Alson Joey Stefano=/ Joe Delassandro. Christ, I thought the former was Dellassandro so I picked up his bio. hahahahahahahahaha My fatigue resulted in reading about a gay porn star (who appeared in Madonna's Sex book!). Not that bad really. Well, the bio was, but still an interesting read somehow.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1293165/Nanny-30-died-sexual-arousal-watching-pornography.html

A 30-year-old woman's death as she used a sex toy while watching pornography was probably due to her state of sexual excitement, an inquest heard today.
Children's nanny Nichola Paginton was found dead in bed naked from the waist down last October with pornographic material running on her laptop. A sex toy was discovered next to her.
A Home Office pathologist told the inquest in Gloucester that Miss Paginton died from a sudden heart arrhythmia, probably brought on by her state of arousal.
Gloucestershire coroner Alan Crickmore agreed it was likely that 'her activity before death' contributed to the fatal arrhythmia.
The inquest heard that Miss Paginton, of Cirencester, was found dead in October last year.
Detective Sergeant Gavin Webb said police had been called by her employer Sarah Griffiths who had visited Miss Paginton's home when she failed to turn up for work.
When there was no reply at the door she enlisted the help of neighbour Michelle Grant and they saw Miss Paginton through the curtains, lying on her bed with her cat lying on her chest.
'After they broke in they realised Miss Paginton was dead,' said Sgt Webb. 'She had a computer on her lap and when they moved it and lifted the duvet, they found she was naked from the waist down and there was a vibrator in the bed.
'The laptop was still displaying pornographic material.'
Home office pathologist Dr Richard Jones from the University of Cardiff said: 'There is nothing to explain why she died in this way but I suspect sudden cardiac death.'
Returning a verdict of death from natural causes, Mr Crickmore said: 'I am satisfied Nichola Paginton died of a natural disease process - sudden cardiac arryhthmia.
'It is not always possible to determine an exact cause of death but it is likely that her activity before death contributed towards it.

'so sad, lets tell everyone'

"ironic porn purchase leads to unironic ejaculation"

― Jordan

Ironic ejaculation: your sperm looks less like a comma and more like a quotation mark

porn: classic or DEATH!

William Donaldson died the same way, except it seemed sort of awesome and appropriate in his case.

In Austin, in the mid 90's there were a lot of photographers trying to get porn (their own, original work) on discs to sell at a few shops in town. I worked ten hours a day at a place across from the train tracks on the east side of town, before it was gentrified, with one of the more successful pornographers. He did videos and photographs and operated an online website. I helped with scenery, costumes and set design for the videos and lighting and posing the more inexperienced models for photographs. It was really interesting job, sometimes. I was in my early 20's and was happy with the pay and that lunch and dinner was always provided and we could pick take-out from any place in town.

What sucked was how the actors and models were talked about when they came in. They were just bodies and their bodies were under heavy scrutiny all the time. A woman came in once and no matter what we did with the lighting or the angles there was always too much cellulite for my boss. He kept talking about her and her flaws as if she didn't exist. At one point he said she couldn't even pass for sexy in the amateur videos he would stage. I saw that she was ready to just cry and gave her a robe. All that criticism and then naked on a rug. My boss then said good idea, paid her for an hour and told her he couldn't use her. UGH! There were plenty of desperate men and women who were willing to do anything for not much money. I stuck with the job until my boss closed shop to move to California. It is hard to watch porn and not think of a set up like the one I worked at. It has served to ruin porn for me and I do notice the lighting and sets and the high thigh area where my boss would say shows a woman's age more than anything.

Lack of marketing acumen, imho. Rule 28 etc...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/13/free-trade-organic-porn-on-the-hunt-for-ethical-smut.html

i think in sweden the government subsidizes feminist porn. this seems like a good idea to me. there's no reason for sexists to dictate what our culture's erotica looks like.

There are some really smart women in porn - read some interviews with Taormino (Thomas Pynchon's niece!), Camille Crimson - but when the curtain is pulled on any sort of so-called "feminist" porn collectives time and again we hear the same stories of abuse and mistreatment. It's such a delicate line, I suppose, given what drives so many performers to porn in the first place. It takes a certain strength to go down that road, but a certain wounded weakness to set you on that path. I imagine that any female-run companies treat their female performers a lot better than the male equivalents, though of course a lot of the women on the business side of the business have seen the other side and are trying to counter their own experiences.

I wonder if I'm developing a porn addiction. I've been watching it more than ever – almost every day – and feel more compelled to do so. On the other hand, I feel more comfortable with it, and enjoy it, more than ever, versus the time when shame and self-criticism stopped me from it. I'm not, and have never been, in a relationship or having sex with anyone, but not out of a lack of serious desire for both of those things, so it's not getting in the way of my life, but I can't imagine this indefinite cycle of porn and compulsive masturbation is good for me (possibly including my ability to pursue intimate relationships with people).

I don't know why I'm writing this here, since I'm already seeing a sex therapist, but my health plan is nearly out of psychotherapy money, so maybe I just want to verbalize my problems. Anyways, tell me about all your borderline addictive porn habits.

you said you don't feel like it's getting in the way of your life, but you are worried it is impacting your ability to pursue intimacy & relationships? what's your therapists take on what you've been talking about w/ them?

EDB, if you have never been in a relationship or had sex at all, focusing on porn may be a cart-before-horse thing imo. It may be that fear or something else is stopping you from pursuing the relationships and porn is a crutch.

Especially if you've only come to feel addicted to porn recently but have avoided or not pursued intimate relationships for a longer time.

fwiw i think "addiction" is a fraught term when used to describe sexual behavior, there was a period in my life when i identified as a "sex addict" and felt like a 12-step/addiction model of approaching sex/porn was helpful for me but i really don't feel that way anymore. it took a number of years of therapy and hard work to figure out what healthy sexuality meant for me and i now feel like the addiction model is really damaging. i know a number of people who do find it helpful but i just don't think sexuality is the same as drugs or alcohol. growing up in a sexually repressed catholic family had a lot to do w/ shame i felt about various aspects of my sexuality and the addiction model was a convenient way of dealing with that shame but ultimately didn't work. i think there are a lot of conversations worth having about the effect of porn on our lives but really i dont see porn as a wholly negative thing. if you are enjoying it and feel like it is a healthy sexual expression for you then i'd be wary of describing yourself as an addict.

Good point. If I can expand on that? Addiction has a medical definition. It's also a useful word to grab for in order to name, and so make a start on tackling, various other types of problem, that are not addiction in the official medical sense. Especially if that problem resembles medical addiction in one or more ways. However, the things you'd do to beat an addiction might not help you with an 'addiction'.

I'm not, and have never been, in a relationship or having sex with anyone, but not out of a lack of serious desire for both of those things, so it's not getting in the way of my life, but I can't imagine this indefinite cycle of porn and compulsive masturbation is good for me (possibly including my ability to pursue intimate relationships with people).

^ Here I've struck out the bits of what you said that seemed less important, and left what seemed to be the key point (to my eyes). I have no pro qualification whatsoever and this is just my take on it, one person's.

how old are you, edb? i think marcos is kind of otm about addiction/sexual behavior. i think there are red flags, if it goes beyond jerking off and watching a lot of porn and you're getting into dangerous/compulsive behavior around it, like looking at illegal things or sinking money you can't afford into watching girls in eastern europe suck on stuff.

looking at porn is one of my earliest memories. i was about four years old and i can still remember pages of the magazine, the smell of my parents bedroom, the smell of the magazine, the light in the room. actually, lots of vivid memories of porn. i can still remember pages i cut out of magazines, folded up, put in my top drawer, the smell of the medicinal ointment i received for some skin condition on my ankles and that i used to beat off with. i can remember scenes downloaded from limewire over a decade ago. there were times when i'd spend maybe an hour looking at porn but it was... still okay, i think? the, like, worldview of the porn i was consuming was no worse, i think, than what you'd find in an updike novel or a z-ro album. still look at pornography maybe every day or every couple days, but it's become more utilitarian, find a video, thirty seconds, beat off, and maybe "academic," where i check xhamster 7 days most viewed/commented out of interest in the same way i keep up on literature or whatever by reading like the paris review blog. internet porn is a topic that i know a lot about. i've watched thousands of hours of pornography. i don't have any shame about it and i don't think it's fucked up my relationships with women, which have been kind of fucked up but always due to other things.

lol i remember reading some bob mould interview about his first experience using the internet, here i found it

Bob Mould

Do you remember your first time using the internet?

Yes

Where were you?

My office in Austin, Texas

How did you access it?

AOL 14.4K

What did you search for?

Porn

What was your first impression?

Slow

otm imo