What bikes do we lust over?

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hmm, that seems like a good deal. is that a good deal? i have no idea what makes a good frame or about any of the components

sleep, Friday, 11 January 2008 00:53 (sixteen years ago) link

The general consensus about Bikedirect bikes is that the frames are nice and the components are decent. It's definetely a good deal. The Kilo TT is also much beloved, and the Hour is actually the same frame as the Fuji Track (http://fujibikes.com/2008/bikes.asp?id=418) and the Kilo TT apparently has the same frame as a KHS Flite (http://www.khsbicycles.com/05_flite_100_08.htm) and a nice fork. All of these bikes are made at the same factory in Taiwan.

Super Cub, Friday, 11 January 2008 04:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Actually the KHS Flite and the Kilo TT have different geometries, so it must be the same frame as an older model Flite

Super Cub, Friday, 11 January 2008 05:32 (sixteen years ago) link

thanks!

sleep, Friday, 11 January 2008 16:53 (sixteen years ago) link

I think Condor is pretty good really. I've test ridden a few and their frames are really well put together. Possibly they are a bit over priced (the style factor and the central london store probably account for some of that). I'm probably not the best judge though.

Ed, Sunday, 13 January 2008 18:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Thanks Ed. I haven't test ridden any, but since I have SO little to compare them to I wonder if it would make any difference. I guess now that I'm beginning to toy with the idea of actually buying a nice bike, I should work out what discernible difference it would make from my Trek 1200, because a worthwhile upgrade is going to be at least in the £1500 region and I'm not rich enough to spend that much without having a pretty good idea why.

Mark C, Sunday, 13 January 2008 19:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Check out Geoffrey Butler down in croydon to compare with Merckx and DeRosa, On Your Bike in London Bridge to try LeMonds and Mosquito in Islington for Colnago and Pegoretti. There's a new shop on upper richmond rd called prologue, which I know nothing about, but they are selling Litespeed.

Quite frankly, mark, you of all people ought to be riding an italian bike.

Ed, Monday, 14 January 2008 10:00 (sixteen years ago) link

(Mosquito also do Moots and Independent Fabrication so you might get something really lustful to ogle at)

Ed, Monday, 14 January 2008 10:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Also, not sure if this is possible, but could you get say a frame or frame and wheels on the cycle to work scheme and get the groupset separately, thus saving a chunk of money on at least some of the bike?

Ed, Monday, 14 January 2008 10:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Hmm, prologue is only about a mile from my house.

Aren't Italian bikes all style and no content?

Mark C, Monday, 14 January 2008 11:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Possibly that goes for Bianchi (see ddb's problems).

I hear good things about ribble but unless you are willing to travel you would have to buy mail order.

Ed, Monday, 14 January 2008 15:13 (sixteen years ago) link

I bought my Marin from Mosquito - their knowledge etc was excellent, but they weren't half snooty

Porkpie, Monday, 14 January 2008 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Mark, you should take a look in condor and Mosquito at the moment as there is some good stuff in the sales. (£1000 of a scott all carbon TT CR1 bike, to bring it within your price range, although this would be silly for you). Some ex demo stuff at Condor too.

Always done well out of the clothing in the condor sale too.

Ed, Saturday, 19 January 2008 18:57 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.tntcyclery.com/images/pugsley_th.jpg

dan m, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 17:15 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.rockyroaduk.com/images/ktrak1.jpg

ledge, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 17:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Seems like a total gimmick although this vid looks fairly fun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP4VwaD7rd4

... but if I'm around that much snow why the hell would I want to be messing around on a bike?

ledge, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 17:41 (sixteen years ago) link

That does look like a huge amount of fun.

Ed, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 18:54 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
two weeks pass...

want

gbx, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 02:28 (sixteen years ago) link

What do you guys think of this?

Mark C, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 14:33 (sixteen years ago) link

xp tp gbx: Holy........but you could never ride it. Or wrench on it. Or breathe on it.

Laurel, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 14:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Mark, I like, very classic looking but will be light as anything. I would probably want to replace the downtube shifters though, but this is because I can't walk and chew gum at the same time and certainly can't use down tubes without looking at them.

Ed, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 15:34 (sixteen years ago) link

mark i dont see value there. v. good frame, bad looking alloy fork, serious compatibility/replacement of parts issues, tubulars, downtubes shifters.

if you wanna rock this like 1989 (buy some oakley iridium blades and a neon headband) and dont care about compatibility or parts replacement issues (read: low mileage, high end recreational riding) you could do a lowball offer. but for what you want i dont see it. also it looks too big for 6'.

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 15:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Cheers Ed and Hunter - I agree, there are too many things about it that aren't right, and with my limited knowledge and inclination to have to work on a bike, it's definitely not a good buy. But interesting.

The shifters - I know what you mean. I was SO stoked when I discovered, like, shifters from the last 20 years, and I don't think I can give them up now.

Mark C, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 16:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Just been looking through the Mosquito website. Steel bikes are soooo pretty, but there was one option which was £1350 in steel and £2450 in Titanium. I'm not sure I could justify such a premium under any circumstances.

Mark C, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 16:26 (sixteen years ago) link

GUYS DO I BUY THIS THERE'S LIKE AN HOUR LEFT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250215849515

gbx, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 19:02 (sixteen years ago) link

OR DO I WAIT AND BID ON THAT VOODOO WAZOO THAT'S UP RIGHT NOW

gbx, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 19:02 (sixteen years ago) link

i have decided to slowly build a CX bike

gbx, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 19:05 (sixteen years ago) link

gbx, i own one of those (featured in various ilx photos). if youre racing, no (heavy). if yr fenders/rack, no (no eyelets). no bottles. clearance for 32s rear, small 30 front. thats 1996-1998 vintage. about 5 lbs frame 1.8 fork i think? $360 new in 1997.

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 19:07 (sixteen years ago) link

i do however love the way it rides, very roady.

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 19:10 (sixteen years ago) link

that settles that, then.

i want something that has the potential to be raceable.

gbx, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 19:10 (sixteen years ago) link

on the chance i don't get into medical school (which seems to be the case), i think i'm gonna move to portland next year, and having a "real" CX bike would suddenly be even more urgent and key

....should we have a thread for ebay deals???

gbx, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 19:11 (sixteen years ago) link

awww, my baby
http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/3421/gitane6sd.jpg

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 19:15 (sixteen years ago) link

derailin', sorry

(i think 54cm might actually be too big for me? Hunt3r how does CX sizing differ from road? i am short)

gbx, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 19:16 (sixteen years ago) link

shit i have to go back to work

gbx, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 19:16 (sixteen years ago) link

conventional wisdom says go 1 or 2 cm smaller, but i like them the exact same size as my road frame if possible and use a shorter higher stem. that way the steering axis "feels" mostly the same to me. when i raced a smaller frame (the gitane) i felt like too much weight on front wheel or something.

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 19:22 (sixteen years ago) link

cx trivia. in 1995 or so, there were almost no cx options, and no US mass market ones, available in the US. so u got an ALAN or other euro frame. imagine, i mean avg riders dint even know what they were. I had canti posts brazed onto an rb1 in order to have one. so schwab cycles in denver brought in a bunch of those gitanes cause the local scene was starting to blow up.

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 19:29 (sixteen years ago) link

That voodoo wazoo looks great I have half a mind to bid on it for my GF.

Ed, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link

wow it is v nice

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link

BACK OFF

gbx, Thursday, 21 February 2008 04:25 (sixteen years ago) link

sorry for more rookie questions, but does this bike look okay or shitty?

http://madison.craigslist.org/bik/578730983.html

Jordan, Thursday, 21 February 2008 20:17 (sixteen years ago) link

i always thot that motivs were like sub huffy. its a tange cromo frame tho, and the parts hanging on it are mid to high end. if yr dead sure that the parts arent clapped out and frame and wheels are straight, it doesn't sound shitty.

Hunt3r, Thursday, 21 February 2008 23:39 (sixteen years ago) link

make sure you get some slicks for it

gbx, Thursday, 21 February 2008 23:45 (sixteen years ago) link

hunt3r what do you think a decent price would be for that voodoo?

on another note: apparently winner of that gitane was shady, and i was second place, so the seller is hounding me to buy it.

gbx, Thursday, 21 February 2008 23:48 (sixteen years ago) link

See the ebay scam thread on ile before you buy!

Mark C, Friday, 22 February 2008 00:22 (sixteen years ago) link

not sure but the fork on the wazoo is probly worth more than the gitane. and isnt a king headset is like $125 or more?

man, im out of the game so my price estimates might be crap but id think $575-$650 would be low side of retail a la carte

Hunt3r, Friday, 22 February 2008 00:42 (sixteen years ago) link

just did some looking online.... have found new framesets for 500-550, with different (carbon) forks

i can get a cross-check for $400 from the LBS (lower than MSRP, apparently), so this wouldn't be worth it for more than $350, I don't think. i mean, it's definitely a nice frame, but the cross check seems more versatile (could be used as a SS, for instance)

gbx, Friday, 22 February 2008 02:22 (sixteen years ago) link


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