SPIRIT - Classic or dud?

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four months pass...

I don't regret a lot of the stuff I've sold off over the years, but I wish I hadn't have sold the reissues of these guys' first four albums.

girl moves (Abbott), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 17:47 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_5uud0vJwM

Salvador Dali Parton (Turangalila), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't regret a lot of the stuff I've sold off over the years, but I wish I hadn't have sold the reissues of these guys' first four albums.

:(

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Was just listening to Clear last week. I stole it from my parents. Hadn't spun it in a year or so.

That second track "Apple Orchard" really stood out this time around.

I need more.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 7 January 2010 03:43 (fourteen years ago) link

'the other song' was my holy grail for the longest time. finally found it for super cheap.

also, "Salvador Dali Parton". this was my nickname at the last mustache party we had where i had a waxed, curled stache.

jaxon, Thursday, 7 January 2010 03:56 (fourteen years ago) link

lol, i come up twice on the GIS results for that

jaxon, Thursday, 7 January 2010 03:57 (fourteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

That weird guitar "pulse" sound on "Rougher Road" is so great!

Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

According to the Sundazed FB page, Ed Cassidy has passed away. Haven't found another confirmation yet.

If so, RIP Mr. Skin.

Big Sambola & The Tailspinners (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

From http://ultimateclassicrock.com/spirit-drummer-ed-cassidy-dead-at-89/

Ed Cassidy, the drummer for the classic rock band Spirit, died in San Jose, Calif. on Thursday (Dec. 6) of undisclosed causes. Notable for his shaved head (which inspired the nickname “Mr. Skin”), head-to-toe black wardrobe and massive drum kit, Cassidy was considered very influential on other drummers of the ’60s rock era. He was 89 years old at the time of his death.

Born on May 4, 1923 in a rural town outside of Chicago, Cassidy began his career at an early age in 1937, after his family moved to Bakersfield, Calif. He served in the Navy during World War II and thereafter held a series of jobs before returning to music full-time in the ’40s, working steadily in a succession of show bands, country and western acts, and big bands. He also worked on film soundtracks and played briefly with the San Francisco Opera.

Cassidy spent the ’50s working primarily in jazz in California, playing with such historically important performers as Art Pepper, Roland Kirk and Gerry Mulligan. He played with Taj Mahal and Ry Cooder briefly in a band called Rising Sons before forming a new group, the Red Roosters, in 1965. That group comprised Cassidy, his stepson Randy California on guitar, Mark Andes on bass, and singer Jay Ferguson.

Changing their name to Spirit with the addition of keyboardist John Locke, that ensemble created a sound that was an amalgam of jazz, hard rock, and psychedelic influences. Signed by ’60s L.A. music impresario Lou Adler, the group released their self-titled debut album in 1968. They followed it up with ‘The Family That Plays Together’ later that year, which featured their highest-charting single, ‘I Got a Line on You.’

In 1969 they toured successfully with a then-little-known band called Led Zeppelin as their opening act, and their impact on the new group was substantial; Cassidy often performed his live drum solo with his bare hands, which reportedly influenced John Bonham’s performance on ‘Moby Dick,’ while Jimmy Page reportedly began using a theramin to alter the tone of his guitar after seeing Randy California doing it on stage. Many fans and critics have noted the similarities between Spirit’s song ‘Taurus‘ and the intro to Zeppelin’s ‘Stairway to Heaven,’ which appeared several years after.

After the release of their landmark fourth album, 1970′s ‘Twelve Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus,’ the original lineup of Spirit fell apart. Cassidy would continue with the group through various lineups over the course of decades until Randy California’s untimely drowning death in Hawaii in 1997. After that he continued to play with surf musician Merrell Fankhauser until he retired from performing. In later years he was also involved in acting, appearing in ’2010′ and ‘The Escape Artist’ on the big screen, and twice in minor roles on the television soap opera ‘General Hospital.’

Spirit bassist Mark Andes paid tribute to Cassidy in a Facebook post Thursday, writing, “RIP Ed Cassidy, one the worlds greatest drummers…loved you cass…” and posting a picture of the pair together.

Bob Irwin produced a series of Spirit re-masters, starting at Sony in the ’80s and eventually carrying over into vinyl re-issues on his own label, Sundazed Records. He recalls his friend and colleague fondly. “What can I say, other than Ed was a friend, a consummate professional and mighty-ass drummer,” he tells Ultimate Classic Rock in an email. “He was close – and stayed close – to his entire body of work, and certainly took great pride in the band’s recordings and accomplishments.”

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 7 December 2012 00:03 (eleven years ago) link

I have Sardonicus and Clear. Still need the first two, and apparently, some beyond.

Nate Carson, Friday, 7 December 2012 03:22 (eleven years ago) link

RIP super classic drummer man

the late great, Friday, 7 December 2012 03:29 (eleven years ago) link

As I've written on more than one occasion, Dr. Sardonicus was, along with a couple of Neil Young LPs, my favourite album in the world when I was 16 or so. Total fluke that it found me--the influence of some drug-addled senior basketball players. My favourite songs were "When I Touch You" and "Nothin' to Hide." Mysterious older-brother music par excellence.

clemenza, Friday, 7 December 2012 03:49 (eleven years ago) link

RIP great drummer, awesome dresser.

Still need the first two

You totally do! First one has Fresh Garbage, Uncle Jack and Mechanical World (amazing song), followed by Taurus, which some people will have you believe Led Zeppelin jacked for Stairway to Heaven.

endless budgie (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 7 December 2012 06:58 (eleven years ago) link

Bob Irwin remembers more on the Sundazed FB page:

Folks have been asking me about Ed Cassidy and Spirit today. This is the quick backstory... Along with the startup of Sundazed, I started producing releases for CBS/Sony Music/Legacy Recordings in 1989. Among my earliest projects there was the Spirit "Time Circle" double CD Best-of release. I did the conception, tape archeology, A&R and production on the release - and was excited to work with Randy and Ed on the project. I had been an uber-fan since I was a kid, so it...was a thrill to build the anthology in line with their vision and expectation. During those sessions, Ed said to Sony engineer Vic Anesini and myself that "no one had ever made my drums sound bigger or better!" We were most proud.

This relationship soon led to a complete overhauling of Spirit's original album catalog. Again working with engineer Vic Anesini at Sony, Ed and Randy came to New York and for several days we locked ourselves into a beautiful room at Sony's studios, combing through countless reels, mixing away, unearthing all kinds of gems along the way. The early Spirit albums were soon issued as "expanded editions" (original albums with bonus material) by Legacy. We were starting on the second leg of this series in late 1996. It was right around this time that Randy was heading to Hawaii for a vacation with his son. Most sadly, he never returned. Ed and I finished the pending releases together a few months later, and we stayed in touch throughout the years. Eventually, Sundazed also reissued the group's entire Ode/Epic catalog as 180gm vinyl editions - a very proud moment for us.

Ed was a friend, a consummate professional and mighty-ass drummer. He was close - and stayed close - to the group's entire body of work, and took huge pride in the band, their recordings, their accomplishments. On one of the final mixing days at Sony, Spirit music was blasting in the room and Ed sat behind the credenza in the studio, serious look on his face, shaking his head. I asked him if anything was wrong - he just looked up at me and said "Damn good band, man."

Big Sambola & The Tailspinners (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 7 December 2012 07:01 (eleven years ago) link

every time is see this thread title i start wondering about the spirit airlines tixx i bought for the holidays

D-40, Sunday, 9 December 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...
one month passes...

Do listen to the later stuff. At least to Potatoland and Son Of. As a favor. To yourself and the band.

― Jon Vought, Monday, December 31, 2001 1:00 AM (11 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Can't vouch for Potatoland (haven't heard it), but FUCK, Son Of Spirit is a terrific album. Unbelievable songs and sounds. Maybe the best record you haven't heard that can be picked up for less than six bucks.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Monday, 25 March 2013 00:56 (eleven years ago) link

NOBODY TOLD ME ED CASSIDY DIED!!!!!!!!!! RIP Mr. Skin.

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Monday, 25 March 2013 10:41 (eleven years ago) link

... and, while I'm here, has anybody else ever noticed the similarities between the intros of "Mr. Skin" by Spirit and "Mamma Mia" by ABBA?

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Monday, 25 March 2013 10:42 (eleven years ago) link

nine months pass...

hard to think of many jazz rock odysseys that are earlier than "elijah"

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 14 January 2014 17:21 (ten years ago) link

six months pass...

Ed Cassidy's advanced years when Spirit were formed are often remarked on (including on this thread), but what about the fact that Randy California was 16 when they recorded their first album AND had only been playing guitar for a couple of years!

We cry crows craws (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 14:42 (nine years ago) link

Serendipity! Literally just read this sentence in Manson by Jeff Guinn: "Charlie distinguished himself from the other Topanga wannabes by being pushier. He tried to catch the attention of the popular band Spirit by crashing one of their home rehearsals, and was sent packing with shouts of, "Man, you got bad karma!""

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 14:48 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

"Ice" off of Spirit's Clear is such a beautiful instrumental. I'd have to think that track has been sampled over and over.

earlnash, Thursday, 6 November 2014 05:13 (nine years ago) link

You would think so wouldn't you?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 November 2014 10:23 (nine years ago) link

three years pass...

Been seeing a lot of vintage Spirit lps in the used bins lately, usually in the $15-20 neighborhood (except for Sardonicus, which is closer to $5-12). So I have to hand it to whatever early '70s Epic label lackey that came up with those twofers of Spirit/Clear and The Family.../Feedback, which are still quite the bargain. Picked up both recently for less than $15 total. Currently jamming the debut..."Canyon's Burning!"

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 20 April 2018 00:50 (six years ago) link

the spotify algorithm threw this at me the other day. i'd somehow never heard it but it's p fucking dope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWCxAElOSxM

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 3 May 2018 22:19 (five years ago) link

Why would Sardonicus be cheaper? Is it just more common? I always thought that was their consensus masterpiece. Maybe the consensus was just me and my high school friend Steve.

clemenza, Friday, 4 May 2018 03:01 (five years ago) link

Yeah, most common probably. It was pretty much continuously in print up until the end of the vinyl era (my copy is Epic blue label from I assume the '80s), as opposed to the others, which got bundled into the twofers with different artwork. Also that white cover gets dirty pretty easily, so filthy ones are cheaper.

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 4 May 2018 04:14 (five years ago) link

nine months pass...

Recently uploaded: Spirit doing a live "1984" on Beat Club.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du1fM0pSGwY

Maybe the only clip I've ever seen of the original band actually playing live.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 14 February 2019 00:07 (five years ago) link

Excellent. Those are some pretty big floor toms Ed Cassidy has there!

Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 February 2019 07:58 (five years ago) link

Comical toms!

jaywbabcock, Friday, 15 February 2019 01:09 (five years ago) link

IIRC, those were field drums he used on live versions of "Elijah".

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 15 February 2019 01:43 (five years ago) link

Cool story from http://www.drumforum.org/threads/spirit-ed-cassidy-drum-kit.70261/

I saw Spirit in 1972 who had the unfortunate task of playing right after The Mahavishnu Orchestra tore the roof off of Cincinnati's Xavier University Fieldhouse.

Ed was playing his gargantuan Psychedelic Red Ludwig set with matching Psych Red concert bass drums to his left and right.I think he may have had a triple tom set-up on the bass drum in a pyramid formation.Pretty sure he had 2 floor toms as well. The snare drum I couldn't see yet I was standing in the front row center stage.How many cymbals I can't remember.I do remember this though: there was an 11PM curfew.Spirit was in the middle of a tune when the power was cut and the house lights came on.The band didn't know WTF was up.Ed Cassady took charge of the situation and began playing a solo which saw him play every drum and cymbal,rims, and ultimately after getting up and walking around his kit while playing,he crouched down and played the stage...he lead the rest of the band off the stage still playing.

No encore.No explanation.Now go home.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 15 February 2019 02:25 (five years ago) link


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