i returned to it recently and was a bit nonplussed by some of the production and some of the boisterousness of the songwriting, but "this big hush" remains amazing.
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Monday, 11 September 2006 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link
i knew Dan would beat me to this thread ..
classic album. simple. as.
did anyone get the latest album - some pretty decent stuff on it,
several tracks reminded me of the mad stuff on Oil and Gold.
― mark e (mark e), Monday, 11 September 2006 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bass-man (bassguy), Monday, 11 September 2006 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 September 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― mark e (mark e), Monday, 11 September 2006 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link
"The Only Thing That Shines" was the only song I ever played in front of my parents that the expressly forbade me to ever play for them again.
― Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Monday, 11 September 2006 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link
.. but there are some lyrics/chants/styles during (arse feck damn - have to check) load the boat, bonehead that are very nemesis like methinks ..
― mark e (mark e), Monday, 11 September 2006 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Monday, 11 September 2006 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― mark e (mark e), Monday, 11 September 2006 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 11 September 2006 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link
Air Date: 19 Feb 1988 (NBC)Director: Bill Duke (!!!)Writer: Peter Lance
Episode SummaryCrockett & Tubbs suspect a Chilean police chief in a double murder
Guest CastTony PlanaOliver PlattMichael DesBarres (!!!)Mark MetcalfLisa Marie (!!!)
Additional CastDuane Huston, Jr.Frank DeVito IIIKatarina EtcheverryKevin QuigleyKim St. LeonLarry LittLester KerstetterRafael LimaSteve GengTracy Roberts
Featured MusicGene Loves Jezebel, Twenty Killer HurtsM/A/R/R/S, Pump Up The VolumeShriekback, Running On The RocksBig Pig, I Can't Break Away
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Monday, 11 September 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 September 2006 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link
Air Date: 27 Mar 1987 (NBC)Director: Tony WharmbyTeleplay and Story: Michael Duggan & Dick Wolf
Episode SummaryCrockett & Tubbs investigate drug busts ruined by phony federal agents, who appear on scene and disappear with all the evidence
Guest CastElizabeth AshleyJimmie Ray WeeksSamm-Art WilliamsIan McShaneMartin Ferrero
Additional CastJames DybasRobert SmallStefen LaurantzTim BiceTony Vila, Jr.
Featured MusicBryan Adams, Heat Of The NightDire Straits, Ride Across The RiverShriekback, UnderwaterboysGrace Jones, The Fashion ShowBelkis Concepcion y Sus Chicas, La Vecina
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Monday, 11 September 2006 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Monday, 11 September 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link
Indeed
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Monday, 11 September 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link
Great, great song from the peak moment of 12" remix rock. No one has mentioned "Hammerheads", which works nearly as well as goosestep pop. I saw them at a suburban Elks lodge in PA around 1986, so if Nemisis was a hit, it still wasn't exactly mainstream. They opened and closed the set with it, and were pretty charming throughout.
― bendy (bendy), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 02:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― I am not Ted Nugent (Bimble...), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 03:57 (seventeen years ago) link
that video is eerily similar to nine inch nails' "closer".
― breakfast pants (disco stu), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 03:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― breakfast pants (disco stu), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 04:01 (seventeen years ago) link
Everything NIN did was not-so-eerily similar to industrial-tribal-dance stuff done five years before. I've never figured out what made his take on it so palatable to the shopping mall.
― bendy (bendy), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 04:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― I am not Ted Nugent (Bimble...), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 04:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― bendy (bendy), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 04:20 (seventeen years ago) link
busted. what I should have said was "overused". "horrible" was overkill, based on stuff I really hate from that era that used the sound, not this excellent album. I do think the songs suffer a bit from the prevalence of said effect. also, as discussed in some other thread I can't recall now, it dates the album to a certain time period, which I have no problem with but does place it in a certain category of memory that makes it difficult for me to truly hear it anew on repeated listens. hope that makes sense.
I always really liked the 12" mix of "Fish Below The Ice" as well. came with that cool embossed cover.
― sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 04:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― rattusnorvegicus (ratty!!), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 04:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― Good Dog (Good Dog), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 06:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 09:08 (seventeen years ago) link
how crap is the UK cover in comparison to the USA cover ?
back to shriekback - the image above is garish and rather unpleasant .. i much prefer the uk cover :
http://www.shriekback.com/do_oilandgold_files/oilandgold_euro.jpg
― mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 09:12 (seventeen years ago) link
(wow "Fish Below The Ice"!)
― Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 11:10 (seventeen years ago) link
"Faded Flowers" is just such a killer song, this album is unbelievable, we are all old
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 11:37 (seventeen years ago) link
tape version
A1 NemesisA2 Only Thing That ShinesA3 Health And Knowledge And Wealth And PowerA4 HammerheadsA5 CoelocanthB1 MalariaB2 Everything That Rises Must ConvergeB3 Fish Below The IceB4 This Big HushB5 Faded Flowers
It was a John Peel session in 1985 that introduced Shriekback to me as a 15 year old.
RTE 2 DJ Dave Fanning loved this album at the time
i knew in 1985 that this was a landmark album, it has a unique charm and character that still remains 21 years later
alexinnyc:
http://vassifer.blogs.com/alexinnyc/2006/01/please_stand_by.html"Oil & Gold by Shriekback is an undervalued masterpiece that no music collection should be without."
many ilxor folks born in the early 1970s or late 60s love this album
Poetry in motion: Faded Flowers
This is the sound of poisonsthe sickness no one knowsNo one is crying for us this timeOur shapes are blurring under miracles of snowWeave a circle round him three timesYou have to plan your moves at these timesOur hearts are breakingOne more song to go
ChorusThese eyes are blindThis is a pure thingThese hands I kissTragic as anythingThese eyes are blindThis is a pure thingAll splash and hissBeyond my measuring
Only the anacrucisthe main event remainsShameful and naked, out there in thegreat cold outdoorsWe have to learn these things againBathe in this incandescent glowthe leap to something I don't knowThere is no doubt upon us whenthe greasy men come back again
ChorusThese eyes are blindThis is a pure thingThese hands I kissTragic as anythingThese eyes are blindThis is a pure thingAll splash and hissBeyond my measuringThese faded flowersPrecious as memoryA veil of cloudCorrect as energyWe had some good machinesBut they don't work no moreI loved you onceDon't love you anymore
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 11:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 12:02 (seventeen years ago) link
In high school, my history class was looking for short instrumentals to use as credits music for a film project we were doing. I made my group use "Coelocanth".
(Martian, I know you're a human database but are you sure you don't have the A and B sides of that tape confused?)
― Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 12:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 12:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 12:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 12:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 13:48 (seventeen years ago) link
this is one of my favorite lyrics of the whole damn decade
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 13:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 13:58 (seventeen years ago) link
agreed. a girlfriend of mine once made me a beautiful post-breakup card with those words on it.
― sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link
I'm using a friend's cassette-only car while house-sitting and found Oil & Gold for $1.99 at a record store. It sounds better than my 20+-year-old CD version. What a great fucking record. The background singing is strange, and I love all the anthropologist-gone-native lyrics (see also P. Gabriel's "The Rhythm of the Heat" and most of Remain in Light).
Anyway, this is fantastic. This is what other people must hear when they listen to Radiohead but that I never reached with them.
― The Freewheelin' Rebecca Black (Eazy), Monday, 15 August 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, wait, I guess this thread is more up to date.
― The Freewheelin' Rebecca Black (Eazy), Monday, 15 August 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
we had some good machinesbut they don't work no moreI loved you oncedon't love you any more
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 15 August 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link
and you knowthis is nothing specialjust one slitand we could lose ourselves forever
― CLUB PISCOPO (DJP), Monday, 15 August 2011 21:37 (twelve years ago) link
my feelings for this record are, like, blood-deep. being nineteen and desperate and alive and futureless on a dance floor in Portland dancing to "Nemesis" was a huge early glimpse of the possibilities of music for me, the depth of community possible on the dance floor, the intensity of the bond among people responding to the same beat, the same words. finding out about "Malaria" was just icing on the cake. I always forget this album when people ask me for my all-time list, but I shouldn't, because it made a huge impact on me.
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 15 August 2011 21:52 (twelve years ago) link
Shriekback is one of my most favorite bands, they really hit something primal inside. Their funk-post-punk fusion still works for me, especially on the first few albums but everything they've done has something to offer. "Oil & Gold" was my introduction and one of my main summer 1985 jams. And it's getting a deluxe reissue any day now. Here's the contents of the bonus disc:
CD 2: Bonus Disc1. “Suck” - Live Hatfield Poly (Shrk3)2. “Mothloop” – Live Hatfield Poly (Shrk3)3. “Feelers” - Live Hatfield Poly (Shrk3)4. “Nemesis” - Extended5. “Nemesis” - Arch Deviant Mix6. “Fish Below the Ice” – Single Edit7. “All Lined Up” - B-Side “Fish Below the Ice”8. “My Spine (Is The Bassline)” - B-Side “Fish Below the Ice”9. “Fish Below the Ice” - The Plankton Enriched Mix10. “Fish Below the Ice” – Dance Mix
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 15 August 2011 22:45 (twelve years ago) link
Those are decent bonus tracks but the real thing that will have me forking out the dough is the prospect of hearing this thing remastered. I had no idea it was finally coming out! Link, Gerald?
Like aero and Gerald and Dan, Shriekback struck a deep chord with me when their shit was coming out. That blend of esoterica and body music and eels. I tried so hard to imitate them on my Tascam in 1986, thinking I was clever...
― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Monday, 15 August 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
I'm living in a neon house
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 15 August 2011 23:12 (twelve years ago) link
It came out today in the UK, apparently. Using the original UK cover too:
http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2011/08/08/shriekback-oil-and-gold-reissue-remaster-tracklist/
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 15 August 2011 23:15 (twelve years ago) link
yall can add me to the shreikback army.
― I dream of vodka sandwich (jjjusten), Monday, 15 August 2011 23:20 (twelve years ago) link
My first thought is that there may be a little too much slap bass for my liking in some of the other songs. I will push on.
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link
Or maybe that's not what it is but there's something. Hmmm.
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
wait until you hit "This Big Hush"
― CLUB PISCOPO (DJP), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
These guys are allowed to use slap bass. There was a meeting about it.
― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
CONVERGE CONVERGE CONVERGE
Hmmmm.
The Only Thing That Shines is very nice.
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
The Only Thing That Shines is PRIMO languishing in one's bed music.
― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
while killing yrself
― CLUB PISCOPO (DJP), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
x-post - lol totally
It's pretty good at my desk on a dreary post-vacation day music too tbh.
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah it's been Shriekback weather in NYC.
― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
Listening to this last night, I noticed how that "call in the airstrike" line sticks out (in a neat way) because everything up to that point is primitive priests/cannibals/elixirs/etc., and then--airstrike!.
― The Freewheelin' Rebecca Black (Eazy), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
I was deep into the "Swamp Thing" comic at the time "Oil & Gold" came out and "Nemesis" seemed to fit right into the priests/cannibals/Heaven/Hell vibe of the storyline.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
Some of these were pretty good but I'm sticking to my guns and to "Nemesis" for that matter.
TY for sending those, Dan!
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link
no one ever said to give up "Nemesis"! that would be crazy talk
― DALEKS OF GOD (DJP), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
I just mean as my favorite. :)
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
I am totally team "This Big Hush"/"The Only Thing That Shines"
although at one point or another every song on here has been my favorite
― DALEKS OF GOD (DJP), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
loved it then, love it now, but it was hard trying to explain to 30 y/o coworker that nemesis was/is "danceable." :(
― if you hipster on your fixie tonight, dont forget, wear black. amen. (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 22:40 (twelve years ago) link
Co-sign. One of those mixes of "Fish Below The Ice" rivals "Nemesis" for my favorite these days.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 23:12 (twelve years ago) link
was just gonna come back and give some love to Fish Below The Ice, that 12" is fantastic and the album version is pleasingly different.
― sleeve, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 23:37 (twelve years ago) link
This is totally one of those albums that I'm going to re-buy because I am crazy for ever getting rid of it in the first place. And if they do a deluxe of Big Night Music, I'm a get that too!
― Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 00:21 (twelve years ago) link
One of my all-time favorite albums. Life without it is unthinkable.
― Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 03:55 (twelve years ago) link
I LOVE YOU BEST BUT IT'S ALL A MESS
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 04:57 (twelve years ago) link
lyrics sites are suggesting it's "when it's all a mess" but I had this album on tape and had to go w/what I heard
gotta admit i slept on this @ the time of release but once again...ty ilm :)
― chief content officer (m coleman), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 10:43 (twelve years ago) link
Ok, so I just did some quick A/Bing of the new deluxe version of "Oil And Gold" with the original, as well as the bonus tracks. My conclusions:
- The new version of the album is a bit 'hotter', i.e. compressed and loud, but otherwise sounds good. Nothing revelatory, mind you. - Of the bonus tracks, the only rare item is "Fish Below The Ice (Dance mix)" which has never been on CD before. The extended version of "Nemesis", the one with the "Apocalypse Now" sample, was on a Richard Blade compilation and the live tracks were on a fanclub CDR so they're nice to have here. All the other O&G-era tracks have been on Shriekback compilations.- Why did they include "Lined Up" and "My Spine"? And "Lined Up" is CLEARLY from vinyl! Wtf?!
All in all, a nice expansion of the album, but nothing that should make you run out and upgrade your copy.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 10 September 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
any advise in sleevenotes re jam science reissue ?
cos that would be the one for me ..
― mark e, Saturday, 10 September 2011 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
Why did they include "Lined Up"
'Cos it rules so hard! Dave Allen absolutely on fire here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-R4XKuI7rA&feature=related
― Vast Halo, Sunday, 11 September 2011 12:48 (twelve years ago) link
No argument there but it's not from the "Oil & Gold" period!
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 11 September 2011 13:21 (twelve years ago) link
guess its being included on this reissue as the track was dropped onto an extra 12" with the 12" of 'below the ice' (oh the days when labels gave away free 7"/12" singles - the double pack !) that came out during O&G campaign.embossed cover as well - hold the cover at an angle, and you can see some secret fish
― mark e, Sunday, 11 September 2011 13:29 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.discogs.com/Shriekback-Fish-Below-The-Ice/release/535819
― mark e, Sunday, 11 September 2011 13:30 (twelve years ago) link
The backing vocals/shrieks on Nemesis are possessed. Redonk. Incredible song.
― john. a resident of chicago., Thursday, 15 October 2015 16:58 (eight years ago) link
I really liked Big Night Music too -- no big reissue of that yet eh?
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 15 October 2015 18:31 (eight years ago) link
BNM : a perfect album.i love it.very different to the earlier material, yet still, very much in line with the shriekback story.would like to think if there is a reissue, then this could be a digitally sourced remaster/reissue.
― mark e, Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:04 (eight years ago) link
They never really put a foot wrong until go bang and even then they made up for it in short order with the v underrated Sacred City
There is nothing I love more than the shriek vibe
― banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link
They never really put a foot wrong until go bang
this. otm.
― mark e, Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link
The extended version of "Nemesis", the one with the "Apocalypse Now" sample,
This makes so much sense that they would sample this, since Oil & Gold pretty much feels like sailing up the river to find Col. Kurtz.
― ... (Eazy), Sunday, 13 March 2016 18:05 (eight years ago) link
Good essay on "Nemesis" here:
http://marchvladness.com/#/round2-siouxsievsshriekback/
― ... (Eazy), Monday, 11 March 2019 16:44 (five years ago) link
Huh, thanks for the link, that was an interesting read.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 March 2019 17:58 (five years ago) link
that was unexpectedly excellent! also i can confirm that in minnesota too, c.1985, i never heard the term 'goth' and 'batcaver' was the closest equivalent i heard at the time
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 15:03 (five years ago) link
"Death rock" was what I heard in Massachusetts, but with "goth" spreading around 1986.
― bendy, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 11:16 (five years ago) link
PRIESTS AND CANNIBALSPREHISTORIC ANIMALS
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 22 April 2019 20:45 (five years ago) link
EVERYBODY HAPPY AS THE DEAD COME HOME
― GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Monday, 22 April 2019 21:19 (five years ago) link