Brian Eno - C or D?

FFS it seems like it's a lecture after all. $100 to hear the man speak.

cut the guy a break, it's not like he's been doing any high-profile, high-paying producing gigs of late ... ;)

they did Apollo live over For All Mankind in the Science Museum IMAX theatre recently and the first i heard about it was the review...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/jul/22/brian-eno-apollo-review

Has anyone seen or heard an Eno solo live show recently?

Not solo-solo, but he did a three-set directed improv show with The Necks, Karl Hyde, Jon Hopkins, Leo Abrahams and Tomato at the Sydney Opera House a few months ago. (Plus about three lectures, the 77 Million Paintings installation, and turning the sails into lava lamps for two weeks.)

eno thing on bbc 4 tonight.

So i only realised tonight why 4:40 onwards of this sounds so familiar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUIZvAe3RBg

its because:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E76Oatpjn4

only made the connection because Jackson just went the whole hog and used Big Ship in the lovely bones.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/04/magazine/04funny_humor.html?_r=1

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fun anecdote. Just listening to "Thursday Afternoon" now - stunning! I really should pick up and READ that Eno book.

Eno book is definitely worth a read, though obviously it gets a little less interesting once the 70s are over.

The biography? It's quite good.

yeah, I got "On Some Faraway Beach" in the summer just gone, when going through Ambiengt I to IV and Apollo. Didnt get past a couple of chapters 'cos I'd try and read whilst listening to his music.

More often than not, I'd end up just sitting there, staring out of the window at traffic and listening...

He'd appreciate it!

ha!! actually, I'd also surf ILX often too... ILX - the ambient web....

decided today The Plateaux Of Mirror is the best hangover listen ever. just the right balance of tragic, comfort and quiet.

tragic hangover

I need to get the Budd collaborations. I'm very fond of Apollo soundtrack as a late night reading album.

harold budd's reverbed piano on "the plateaux of mirror" gives this cottony, fluffy feel absinth is supposed to induce

That NYT column's a hoot. Why the hell would they let you access "Thursday Afternoon" on a jukebox, unless they charged you $10 to play it?

did anyone else like that thing he did with paul simon? granted it's not the best album either of them has ever made or anything, but i thought it was quite decent, not to mention sorta unexpected and not really sounding like anything either of them has ever done before (it's kinda mildly glitchy with lots of chopped up guitars and stuff)

also music for airports is great, you just have to put it on in the background in another room while it's raining, like it's meant to be listened to

i thought that the paul simon album *sounded* great, but that the songs weren't really up to paul's standards for the most part. it's a cool idea to pair the two of them -- i almost wouldn't mind if they gave it another go!
it'll be interesting when/if eno's recordings with herbie hancock emerge!

i agree it was kinda hit and miss, often swinging from one to the other in the middle of a song even, but the parts where it hit coupled with the great production pushed me into the "ok i definitely like this" camp. if you're a fan of either of them it's well worth a listen just to see what they sound like together

Neroli is really great!! (listening now for first time)

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Here come the warm jets?

"That's certainly a reference."

http://thequietus.com/articles/04339-brian-eno-interview-chrissie-hynde-nme-here-come-the-warm-jets

"The traditional American view"

?!

Brian Eno is a weirdo?

Just saw that Eno and dudes recently performed "Apollo" in its entirety, and that Eno sang a few of his "hits" as well.

what wait where?!?!

11 months ^^^^^ thataway

i posted the review of jul 22 show. perhaps they've done more.

Brian Eno - C or D?

Think he did this at the Brighton Festival a couple of weeks ago too, but I was too disorganized to attend.

Yeah, Eno with Icebreaker (?) and BJ Cole performing "Apollo." http://www.artinfo.com/news/story/34570/brian-eno-returns-to-the-moon-in-brighton/. And then:

Expecting only a brief salutation from Eno after the show, the audience was jittery and wound up when he instead took a seat behind the keyboard, saying, “We’re going to play another song.” (Eno hasn’t performed any of his solo works since 1974.) He played four songs from his back catalogue including “Another Day” from his most recent LP and two of his solo songs, “Julie With” and “By This River” from Before and After Science.

Anyone know anything about this bootleg:
http://ghostcapital.blogspot.com/2010/07/brian-eno-bbc-sessions.html

Allegedly it contains his BBC sessions, but as far as I know he only did the one with The Winkies for Peelie in 1974. "Third Uncle" and "Fat Lady" are live with 801, and the other two tracks don't sound all that different than the studio versions.

yeah there's nothing new on that LP--i have it, mostly because it looks nicer than the mp3s i had before. it's just the BBC winkies session circa 1974 plus some stuff from the 801 LP. the 'i'll come running' on there is 'totalled' from the BBC session

that bbc session is fabulous. kind of too bad there isn't more winkies material floating around. they did play live a bit, didn't they?

hahaha holy shit I am listening to the only live WInkies recordings (Derby 1974, VERY rough sound) right this second.

hmmm, hook a bro up? on the velvet underground bootleg scale of awful sound quality, what are we talking about here.

uh probably on par with some of the roughest VU boots. but it has two Eno songs NEVER RELEASED ANYWHERE!!! which is why I was giving it a listen. also covers of "I'm A Boy", "What Goes On", and some other rock tune I haven't gotten to yet.

I'll send u a link in a sec, can you decode flac? anyone else can wait for the Domm n Gloom post or webmail me.

re: BBC sessions, these have been booted a ton in different configurations with and without various B-sides. I love love love that version of "Fat Lady", and the version of "I'll Come Running" has different lyrics and a nice fat sound.

neato, yeah, send me a link!

this isn't winkies-related but it's one of my favorite eno tunes, circa '83 or so--i want to revive the lineup that made this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf5mPFNwxFA

wow I had totally forgotten about those 3 tracks on the last side of that box, thanks for the reminder.

Those 3 tracks are on the Instrumental box, which I just picked up. His ambient work had never clicked for me - until now! And I lurve this box so much! But I'm a bit of a genre tourist - this along with some Sylvian and Bill Nelson ambient albums are pretty much all I need.

can we do a trade? hit me up on webmail, I haven't heard those in like 20 years.

geeta, that sounds very much like an instrumental, stripped-down version of "no one receiving", the opener of "before and after science". it's good but there is something missing there. it's a little on the shallow side, like ambient btw, which happened in between.

anyone heard the new album? I find it a real bore.

aw, I kind of like it! "Dust Shuffle" and that Bone song are neat and kinda loud. It works really well on shuffle play with other stuff. but as a whole it does leave something to be desired - songs sound unfinished or fragmentary which is maybe the idea.

I like "Glitch" and "Sounds Alien" best.

geeta, that sounds very much like an instrumental, stripped-down version of "no one receiving", the opener of "before and after science". it's good but there is something missing there.

ha, i know 'no one receiving' very well. there are similarities but this jam goes to a different place

but i am doing an experiment for you right now, alex: i have 'no one receiving' playing on one of my turntables, pitched up quite a bit to match the speed of 'strong flashes of light'. ('no one receiving' is a fair bit slower.) i have it playing simultaneously with 'strong flashes of light'. 'strong flashes of light' is actually denser, with a lot more going on -- 'no one receiving' is the track that sounds stripped down, even with the vocals. the rhythms are pretty different, as well.

^^^i think eno himself would approve of this experiment.

'strong flashes of light' is actually denser, with a lot more going on -- 'no one receiving' is the track that sounds stripped down, even with the vocals.
i know what you mean, "strong flashes of light" might well be more dense and is definitely faster. it is an exercise in computer music, it misses the human touch. it has no tune and no soul. just a mechanic rhythm which is repeated ad nauseam. it's kind of aseptic. like a lot of the stuff eno has done from ambient on.

concerning the new one, i preferred the one before. it had some interesting tracks. the new release seems to lack inspiration. the speaking voices don't really help.

it is an exercise in computer music, it misses the human touch.

eh? there's no computer music in that track at all--it's all guitar/bass/drums, of the non-synthesized variety

really? i would have sweared... then it is maybe my shitty computer loudspeakers. but still the track is a. extremely repetitive b. has no tune c. is a pale copy of "no one receiving" d. as it was recorded after it has "no one receiving" written all over it but it is just not as good, i think

i think eno's accident had positive and negative side-effects. inventing ambient was positive. at least in the beginning though it got boring and repetitive soon. but somehow he lost his craziness, his creativity which was at full force in the first four solo albums (not counting discreet music). afterwards he never came back to that ingenious pop songwriting. he produced bands i cared for before they were produced (early live and rough talking heads, the first u2) but who became really shit later when they had producers like eno. that he produced coldplay i cannot forgive him. how deep can you sink? does he do this because for the money or does he really like the music of coldplay? somehow i'd prefer it was the former but i am not sure. his own releases were occasionally okayish (eg the collab with john cale) but most of it was forgettable. can it be that it took him so much energy to learn and master new music technology that he wasted his time fiddling around and that he did not have the time and calm to make real music instead of just programming sounds? from 1973-1975 he was god but after that he became a philosopher.

so you don't like Remain In Light or Music For Airports? I cannot understand that.

I will agree that his work becomes problematic and self-referential somewhere around that flood of subscriber-only ambient releases like Bell Studies, Kite Stories, and White Cube. And that the last two solo records have been interesting failures for the most part. But until the early 90's this dude was still firing on all cylinders imo.

Also, I mentioned this somewhere else on ILM, but some of his best stuff from the past 15 years is unreleased - the Lanzarote & Mt, Fuji shows with Peter Schwalm, the Nile videogame soundtrack, and the Sushi-Roti-Reibekuchen set with Schwalm and Holger Czukey (tyler I mistakenly told you it was Leibezeit, I was wrong).