Favourite Miyazaki film

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We had polls back in May ?

Ste, Friday, 11 January 2008 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Mind you, there is something very fucked up about Howl's Moving Castle getting one vote and Mononoke getting 11. Seriously, I demand a recount.

the next grozart, Friday, 11 January 2008 16:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I think I voted for Mononoke. Howl's is probably my third least favourite of his films, after Cagliostro and Nausicca. I've only seen it once, but I remember the plot being a bit of a muddle.

Saw Porco Rosso for the second time recently, and it's FANTASTIC. It might get my vote now.

chap, Friday, 11 January 2008 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Totoro has the greatest theme music ever.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 11 January 2008 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Read Peter Carey's Not Wrong About Japan before you watch Totoro again, grozart.

Jaq, Friday, 11 January 2008 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link

howl's sucked, sorry

bell_labs, Friday, 11 January 2008 16:07 (sixteen years ago) link

What should I watch out for when I rewatch?

A desire to have a huge fat Totoro of your own that you can lie down and go to sleep on on the middle of the day.

Fuck that almost makes me sound like a furry.

Seriously just the idea of standing waiting for a bus in the rain with a huge fat furry forest spirit next to you is pretty magical. Especially if you're a kid I'm sure.

Yeah it mostly does just meander but really that's one of the great things about it. It's subtle. Doesn't require too much brainpower, just something to curl up on the sofa with.

ledge, Friday, 11 January 2008 16:09 (sixteen years ago) link

i have a feeling that my enjoyment was skewed by circumstance and the people i watched it with, who quite openly didn't enjoy it, and i think that might have ruined it for me. While I realise Totoro came out earlier, creatures like the radish spirit in SA are very similar.

the next grozart, Friday, 11 January 2008 16:16 (sixteen years ago) link

howl's sucked, sorry

-- bell_labs, Friday, 11 January 2008 16:07 (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Some days it's my favourite. Definitely the one I have had to come back to the most - seen it umpteen times now and I still need my Howl's fix now and again. The only problem with it is that some very important details (like the missing prince) are skimmed over with such speed, you'd be forgiven for getting a bit lost plotwise. It's also got quite a misleading title since not a lot actually happens inside the castle. It's just a couple of rooms as far as the viewer knows, but I first expected it to be set in an enormous haunted castle. I love it though.

the next grozart, Friday, 11 January 2008 16:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I just watched Kiki's Delivery Service, and it is pretty much the most adorable movie ever. It's charming, and sweet, and makes you actually feel optimistic about humanity. Plus every moment with Jiji was hilarious.

Jeff Treppel, Friday, 11 January 2008 21:17 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm still mad pissed at you lunatics that I was the ONLY person who voted for cagliostro

El Tomboto, Friday, 11 January 2008 23:31 (sixteen years ago) link

I still don't think i've seen the ending for Cagliostro yet, having had to leave the campus screening early 10-12 years ago.

kingfish, Saturday, 12 January 2008 06:26 (sixteen years ago) link

I love Cagliostro. Not my favourite by any stretch, but those rooftop scenes alone are enough to give me vertigo.

the next grozart, Saturday, 12 January 2008 12:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I love Porco Rosso but Cagliostro is the one I'd enjoy seeing again most so it gets the win.

ogmor, Saturday, 12 January 2008 13:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Also Lupin is a great argument for casual suit wearing.

ogmor, Saturday, 12 January 2008 14:21 (sixteen years ago) link

So I watched Totoro again on my own with the Japanese language on. I must say I enjoyed it a lot more this time round. I think the first time I was getting too anticipatory - "Ok they've found these creatures - what you're just going to fall asleep?!!". I was expecting a lot more to actually HAPPEN and I spent most of the film waiting for this. The second time though, I knew what was going to happen and ended up enjoying it a lot more. The attention to detail, the smallest references. It's like going for a lovely stroll in the park, as opposed to running full pelt around a funfair.

the next grozart, Saturday, 12 January 2008 18:19 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Just finished watching Earthsea now it's available in the UK on DVD. Wonderfully animated, breathtaking in parts - probably the best drawn of all the Ghibli films, no doubt due to Goro Miyazaki's previous role as a head animator (or something similar - not sure).

However the plot felt a bit aimless in points and I felt, particularly for the first half, that I was watching Tom Bombadil the movie. There's an awful lot of the main characters just pottering around doing chores or eating food and you do end up when they're going to get on with it.

I guess it suffers from being a book adaptation, and like the Golden Compass film, it feels a bit potted and lacking flesh.

Once the plot does pick up again, it gets very good. The Cob character is especially well done.

the next grozart, Sunday, 17 February 2008 20:27 (sixteen years ago) link

six months pass...

So his latest Ponyo On the Cliff By the Sea has been out for a month in Japan and is raking in the cash once again, etc. Anyone know anything about it?

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 30 August 2008 06:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Here's the official site at least:

http://www.ghibli.jp/ponyo/

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 30 August 2008 06:03 (fifteen years ago) link

it looks kinda childish from all the previews I've seen. like totoro or kiki's delivery service childish.

by the way
Porco Rosso 5
Laputa: Castle in the Sky 4
Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind 2

are better than
Spirited Away 20
My Neighbour Totoro 15
Princess Mononoke 11
Kiki's Delivery Service 6

especially Nausicaa

CaptainLorax, Saturday, 30 August 2008 06:04 (fifteen years ago) link

challops!

sad that howl's moving castle only got one vote. it's my second favourite.

the next grozart, Saturday, 30 August 2008 11:30 (fifteen years ago) link

I always nod off during Nausicaa. Not a bad thing, but the film is far too long.

DavidM, Saturday, 30 August 2008 11:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I nod off during everyone so its hard to use that as an excuse ;)

CaptainLorax, Saturday, 30 August 2008 13:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I would def have voted Nausicaa

if, Sunday, 31 August 2008 20:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Rereading this thread I'm definitely part of the Porco Rosso fanbase here. Not necessarily my all-time favorite but I'd rank it top three.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 31 August 2008 20:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Totoro and Nausicaa are the two I like most i think, haven't seen Porco Rosso or Cagliostro

I know, right?, Sunday, 31 August 2008 20:45 (fifteen years ago) link

That Tales of Earthsea movie was better than I expected.

nickalicious, Sunday, 31 August 2008 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw Spirited Away in the theater, and it was my first Miyazaki, so it's hard not to love it - especially since it felt like one of the first truly immersive animated films I'd seen yet. I didn't want it to end, and it felt like I had spent days inside it.

Then I went to Mononoke and was promptly disappointed. How in the world was that the one which broke him into the US market?

But the 80's material is pretty solid. Nausicaa dragged a bit, and while I liked Totoro and Kiki, they're both a bit extra twee compared to the rest. I suppose my other faves would be Lupin, Laputa, and Porco.

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 31 August 2008 23:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I remember Nausicaa being good, but I have no real desire to ever see it again after becoming so immersed in the manga, which is one of my favorite comic books of all time. The movie, by comparison, feels like a cheap adaptation of that comic (although obviously the history is more complicated than that!).

Still stand by my vote for Kiki. Still need to see Howl's.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 1 September 2008 01:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I just saw Ponyo! It's pretty cutesy, even compared to Spirited Away and Totoro, but it's good. There's this uber-catchy song that goes with it, though, that they've been playing non-stop over here and I hope for everyone's sanity back home they don't translate it into English.

adamj, Monday, 1 September 2008 02:14 (fifteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Ponyo to be released in America in August.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 April 2009 14:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Ponyo Ponyo Ponyo sakana no ko etc

v.v. catchy aargh

Matt #2, Monday, 6 April 2009 14:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Thunder and lightening

v v frightening

Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 April 2009 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link

> That Tales of Earthsea movie was better than I expected.

on uk tv sometime soon (saw it in tivo listings but there's no easy way of searching upcoming stuff unless you know which channel it's on (film4 i think))

http://www.animeuknews.net/news/1796/tales-from-earthsea-to-get-film4-showing
"The film will be shown twice - the first time on Sunday the 12th of April at 2:45pm, and a repeat show on Thursday the 16th of April at 6:45pm."

koogs, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Loved: Spirited Away
Liked: Howl's Moving Castle, Kiki's Delivery Service
Indifferent: Princess Mononoke
Disliked: My Neighbor Totoro

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Monday, 6 April 2009 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link

of these that i've seen, which is only 2 or 3, i always come away thinking that they look great and but they're kinda boring.

Blackout Crew are the Beatles of donk (jim), Monday, 6 April 2009 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw Laputa in the cinema a week ago (hadn't seen it before), and it was great! I'd almost be willing to say it's the second best Miyazaki film after Totoro. I loved the way it never quite revealed all of the mysteries implied in the backstory (trying to avoid spoilers here) but gave just enough hints to make some guesses. I guess I've always been fond of stories where people explore the mysteries of long ago vanished cultures. Also, I thought it was nice how there clearly was a strong ecological theme (common with many other Miyazaki films) yet it was never spelled out. And there where some incredibly beautiful designs, especially the robot. Oh boy what a cool robot!

One thing I found kinda weird thougb, why does every Miyazaki film (besides Princess Mononoke) have a similar-looking teen girl as a protagonist? I'm familiar with the Japanese fetishism for school girls, but the way the sky pirates leered after Sheeta was still a bit disturbing here. At least it was done more tastefully in Porco Rosso.

Tuomas, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, they showed a trailer for Ponyo before Laputa, I can confirm that the Poyno song is indeed silly and ridiculously catchy!

Tuomas, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link

i totally agree with these poll results. Spirited Away is the only one that was truely magical. Totoro is sweet. Mononoke ok. Howl's Moving Castle a tragic mess.

Ludo, Monday, 6 April 2009 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link

shut up. YOUR FACE will be a tragic mess after its done getting punched. by me.

howl's moving castle 4EVA

Vormärz Heart, Our Youth is Broken (Lamp), Monday, 6 April 2009 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link

I agree with Ludo, Howl's Moving Castle had some nice scenes, but it was very incoherent. Definitely the worst Miyazaki I've seen.

Tuomas, Monday, 6 April 2009 19:45 (fifteen years ago) link

g2h

Vormärz Heart, Our Youth is Broken (Lamp), Monday, 6 April 2009 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't think I voted in this, but it's a shame - I'm betting Nausicaa and Laputa didn't get votes just due to not being as widely seen, but there's definitely top 3 with Spirited Away for me (followed closely by Totoro).

Nhex, Monday, 6 April 2009 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Miyazaki's doing a brief American tour to tie in with the release of Ponyo.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 July 2009 12:46 (fourteen years ago) link

I've come to find that I like Howl's as much if not a little bit more than Spirited... incoherent mess my arse.

ch4rlie fr4m3, Thursday, 9 July 2009 12:53 (fourteen years ago) link

It is too hard to pick only one.

Detroit Metal City (Nicole), Thursday, 9 July 2009 13:00 (fourteen years ago) link

ch4rlie fr4m3 otm - Howl's is a wonderful film.

Bill A, Thursday, 9 July 2009 13:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah Howl's gets better every time I see it.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 July 2009 13:32 (fourteen years ago) link

The only problem with Howl is that it just misses out on being as wonderful as the original book.

Greig (treefell), Thursday, 9 July 2009 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Will rep for Mononoke til the end!

Suedey 2, Thursday, 9 July 2009 13:45 (fourteen years ago) link


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