CROOKED RAIN CROOKED POLL

I have insane irrational hate for Silence Kit

whatever, "Cut Your Hair" was THE song that got me into Pavement in the first place. Whether you think its good or not, it did just what it was intended to do. And I'm sure I'm not the only one.

It must be such a burden to have more refined tastes than everyone else.

It's not the fucking ooohs-- it's the lyrics, it's the way they make it work despite never changing the chord progression, it's that it's the best example of the mocking seriousness about rock that makes this album so goddamn wonderful.

a song's hook alone (e.g. ooh) doesn't make it a good song, let alone a good single.

I never said a hook alone makes a good single (and I was never talking about "Cut Your Hair" as a song, good or bad). But once you unruffle your feathers, please let us know what you think makes a good single. Seriously. I want to know.

arrrgggghhhhh

Newark Wilder is my fave Pavement song ever, OK tied with "We Dance"

that last "stuff me" is like all of INDIE stuufed into one second of song

whatever, "Cut Your Hair" was THE song that got me into Pavement in the first place. Whether you think its good or not, it did just what it was intended to do. And I'm sure I'm not the only one.

It must be such a burden to have more refined tastes than everyone else.

Johnny Fever, great you love the song and it got you into the band, but you're misreading me if you think i'm trying to say my taste in pavement is "more refined" than "everyone else"'s. i love(d) the band and (especially) this album, but out of the 12 tracks on it I'd take 11 of them before 'cut your hair'. it's personal preference, not point-scoring.

I never said a hook alone makes a good single (and I was never talking about "Cut Your Hair" as a song, good or bad). But once you unruffle your feathers, please let us know what you think makes a good single. Seriously. I want to know.

-- Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, September 6, 2007 11:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

kevin, i've no idea what makes a good single per se. popular ones apparently sell well. the ones that sell well are apparently popular.

laurie anderson - o superman; bob dylan - like a rolling stone;
elvis presley - hound dog; althea & donna - uptown top ranking. all popular singles, but what is the point in trying to work out what common ground they share other than acknowledging their chart success?

music isn't maths. duke ellington said "if it sounds good it is good", and only half of that is right.

why did i make this poll so long

anyway, I went with elevate

Will anyone make a case for "Heaven Is A Truck?"

I always thought this woulda fit right in on Wowee Zowee. It sorta pre-empts "Grounded," to my ears...

I thought this too as Wowee Zowee has so much half-done mediocrity on it.

I'm seriously torn... nah I'll just have to skip this one, every single track on CR, CR is beyond perfect so it would be a total waste of my breath

페이브먼트짱!!!!

This is incredibly difficult.

Two weeks ago I listened to this for the first time in a year and have probably listened to it ten times since.

Eh fuck it, Gold Soundz it is.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

im tired of all the POLLS

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

Wow! I didn't see this coming.

inneresting results, laidbacktrax have it

Gold zoundz is ace. n1.

this thread is full of punks
they got spikes

how the hell did Silence Kit and Fillmore Jive score so low???

they've always had their hataz

goodnight to the rock and roll era

why you complainin'

TA!

xpost OTM

i'm drunk.

released 25 years ago today

good night to the rock and roll era

/error

newark wilder doesn't get enough love

https://chainedandperfumed.com/2011/01/23/luck-on-every-finger-part-two/

https://chainedandperfumed.com/2009/03/08/luck-on-every-finger/

haha, look how excited malkmus is
http://matadorrecords.tumblr.com/post/182807378494/mat-rcocrcr25

oh and this album is still great!

"Cut Your Hair" is our generation's "We're An American Band"

https://www.theringer.com/music/2019/2/14/18224287/pavement-crooked-rain-25th-anniversary-range-life-cut-your-hair-gold-soundz

Those National Geographic finds are great

newark wilder doesn't get enough love

― we're far from the challops now (voodoo chili), Thursday, February 14, 2019 8:58 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

agree, def my fav

top 5 album all time, idc what 36-year-old cool guys say on Twitter in 2019

love this album to death

this thread makes my head hurt:

Listening to Malkmus yelp "You're the kind of girl I like / because you're empty / and I'm empty" in that sing-songy naifish voice makes me want to vomit

— Jeremy Gordon (@jeremypgordon) February 14, 2019

More for us, then.

A popular state!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZJeK3nBDdU&fbclid=IwAR3OjK0CRGp1mfRlzurwgaJC9h3c1K-0NiOwljIaNZGpZ5IUqvzgEZXVd5E

Dang.

Well, that was supposed to lead you to Pavement's "Colorado."

malkmus's archness was so needed among a decade of manly emotions

Someone recently posted on ILM the original source from which the "Cut Your Hair" cover art was taken (an old German LP?), but I can't find it. If you read this (whoever you are), would you mind reposting? Thx!

i honestly feel bad for those who let all the shit surrounding pavement (the slacker image, the perceived sloppiness) get in the way of letting those effortlessly pretty melodies into your heart

iirc no one at the time actually cared about archness/slackerness/sloppiness; it was more about whether they owed mark e. smith royalties or had sold out by making a video

on malkmus' tombstone: HE DID CROSSWORDS

I remember almost everyone loving them, with few complaints...

I was interning at CMJ in the summer of '95, when a VHS with the “Father to a Sister of Thought” video arrived from Matador... the editorial staff immediately went into a conference room and watched it intently, with the volume cranked up high

they really were the last psychedelic band, goodnight guys

Liked it a lot, but did not love it right after "Slanted."

Then after "Wowee Zowee" the first 3 albums plus the Westing collection crystalized into this permanent part of me.

What a journey from those first EPs to CRCR and Wowee!