Sixpence None The Richer's 'Kiss Me' - who else loves it?

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everything i've ever heard by this band has been gorgeous. this sort of pop is a total guilty pleasure for me.

stockholm cindy (winter version) (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 28 January 2006 01:16 (eighteen years ago) link

my favorite is the "don't dream it's over" cover.

stockholm cindy (winter version) (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 28 January 2006 01:18 (eighteen years ago) link

(although I'll grant that 'There She Goes' is a much worse offender when it comes to over-repetition).

Structure in mirroring lyrics shockah

Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Saturday, 28 January 2006 01:26 (eighteen years ago) link

i adore this song. it sounds like something from loveless without all the noise!

"Don't Ask Why"!!

Despite the Dawson's Creekization of these type of songs, I still like "Kiss Me".

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 28 January 2006 01:35 (eighteen years ago) link

can someone do a rough guide to songs that sound like this? not dawson's pop as a whole, just this kinda english-major/quasi-pastoral strain of it. obv 10,000 maniacs would be on there.

stockholm cindy (winter version) (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 28 January 2006 02:30 (eighteen years ago) link

The Sundays to thread

Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Saturday, 28 January 2006 03:04 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, that's another obvious one. cocteau twins too?

stockholm cindy (winter version) (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 28 January 2006 03:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, for heaven's sake. It's a pretty frothy pop song. If you hate pretty frothy pop songs, news flash: you'll hate it. And you don't get any astuteness points, or whatever, from saying so, or noting that it isn't fecking "Anarchy in the UK."

is this re: my post? if it is, it missed my point.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Saturday, 28 January 2006 04:02 (eighteen years ago) link

tremendoid: no. More to stuff upthread along the lines of "I hate inoffensive music." Okay, well then, fine for you, but not much help in talking about songs that people are trying to make sound pretty rather than nonpretty.

"Poor man's Sundays," though, is dead on.

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Saturday, 28 January 2006 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...
Umm: "Kiss Me" sounds like the Sundays relocating to Dawson's Creek

Love that! Her voice is grating at times (and the lyrics are a bit too saccharine) but the song is still really good overall. Also, as previously mentioned, nostalgia.

*Although if nostalgia were a valid excuse for taste than we may as well close the site down and call all music a draw.

Cunga (Cunga), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 06:29 (seventeen years ago) link

six years pass...

heard this in the grocery store today. kinda a forgotten jam of late 90s/early 00s pop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwo-xezj7Ts

how's life, Sunday, 12 May 2013 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

sounds like the Sundays relocating to Dawson's Creek

still the most apt description

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), donderdag 26 januari 2006 19:07 (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^ and still

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 12 May 2013 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i love breathe your name. i literally only hear it in grocery stores too.

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 12 May 2013 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

The intro caught my ear because it sounded like "Carry the Zero" by Built to Spill.

how's life, Sunday, 12 May 2013 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

i'm not sure if i'd ever heard that one before. the only ones i really remembered were "kiss me" and "there she goes"

dyl, Sunday, 12 May 2013 18:07 (eleven years ago) link

^^their version of "Don't Dream It's Over" still gets decent airplay on AC stations 'round here as well.

"Breathe Your Name" is indeed the supermarket/restaurant jam.

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 13 May 2013 02:05 (eleven years ago) link

i just heard this in a department store yesterday. I looked it up and it said they were Christian. I did not know that.

Poliopolice, Monday, 13 May 2013 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

I did not realize until just now that this thread was started by the villain from the latest Iron Man film, somewhere early in the timeline of his transformation from wounded, rejected, geeky scientist to fiery, immoral uberman.

how's life, Monday, 13 May 2013 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

five years pass...

it's a lovely song

niels, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 06:36 (five years ago) link

Gorgeous song

sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 07:54 (five years ago) link

good chord progression for beginner guitarists too.

Ludo, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 11:02 (five years ago) link

I think a more charitable read of that one line would be “Strike up the band and make the fireflies dance. Silver moon's sparkling.” Like, these are separate ideas. The fireflies are not "dancing silver moon's sparkling". Save that shit for Owl City.

I really only know this song and Breathe Your Name, which I really love, and then several covers like Don't Dream It's Over and Dancing Queen, which are so unnecessary. Is anyone familiar enough with their albums to recommend anything further?

how's life, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 11:22 (five years ago) link

good chord progression for beginner guitarists too.
idd

niels, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 12:01 (five years ago) link

this song is great, it imagines a slow coronal world in which the sundays got big enough in the us to score teen movies (fear excepted)

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 13:59 (five years ago) link

I was living in Sydney when this came out. It's inextricably linked with me being skint and locked out of the weightless preening narcissism of the city. I hate it.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 14:28 (five years ago) link

^ can’t blame you

ya done (Ross), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 14:37 (five years ago) link

“... an all-purpose margarine smeared over the toast of a Clinton-era lust”(!)

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 14:57 (five years ago) link

this is a good song and I literally cannot imagine disliking it

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 15:02 (five years ago) link

Alfred, here’s what I don’t get: you recently dissed “Don’t Speak” because of what you diagnosed as (I recall) Gwen’s failure to convincingly “sell” the song; and you are similarly harsh on the vocal performance in “Kiss Me” — yet you love Natalie Imbruglia’s “Torn,” whose vocal could most charitably be described as “serviceable,” and which is certainly less charismatic or “convincing” than either of these two “Worst Singles Ever.”

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 16:18 (five years ago) link

as a kid i thought the lyric was ‘sailor moon sparkling’

flopson, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 16:41 (five years ago) link

otm

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 16:46 (five years ago) link

you love Natalie Imbruglia’s “Torn,” whose vocal could most charitably be described as “serviceable,” and which is certainly less charismatic or “convincing” than either of these two “Worst Singles Ever.”

a matter of opinion! I find her winsomeness convincing.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 16:53 (five years ago) link

Fair enuff

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 16:57 (five years ago) link

I like this song but people comparing her vocal to Harriet Wheeler are so crazy, there's nowhere near the expressiveness or frustration or wistfulness in this you can find in any The Sundays song

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link

sorry i'm crazy!

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 17:36 (five years ago) link

i guess i'll agree with that still, it wasn't a one-to-one comparison

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 17:36 (five years ago) link

This song is great in its own right, but in my head is like the John the Baptist to the Lord and Saviour that is Bic Runga’s “Sway”.

Tim F, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link

oh god i haven't thought about "sway" in forever

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:06 (five years ago) link

As for The Sundays resemblance, I think with stuff like “Kiss Me” and Natalie’s “Wrong Impression” there’s a certain... satisfying breeziness that comes from the fact that the singers are not on Harriet’s level of emotional nuance and expressiveness. I mean both performances are very pretty and expressive by ordinary standards but they do stop short of Harriet’s ability to capture an entire life in a turn of phrase like a pressed butterfly, and that kind of allows them to be simply affecting in a way that The Sundays’ work is too powerful for.

Perhaps the only Sundays song that comes close to that territory is “Summertime” - interestingly though it’s not at all because Harriet tones things down but that the song is so extremely ebullient that the two forces tend to cancel each other out if you’re not paying attention (and then once you do pay attention it becomes more obviously a deeply layered masterpiece).

So I guess what i’m saying is that the comparison is kind of unfair given the Sundays have made some of the best music of all time and let’s all be allowed to enjoy the lesser but considerable charms of “Kiss Me” and “Wrong Impression”.

Tim F, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link

Harriet’s ability to capture an entire life in a turn of phrase like a pressed butterfly

otm / goddamn

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:17 (five years ago) link

lol at nabisco's line from 15 years ago: " "Kiss Me" sounds like the Sundays relocating to Dawson's Creek".

I just watched "Sway" again and I think the slight difference is that "Sway" sounds marginally better in my head then on record whereas the reverse is true for "Kiss Me", perhaps because Bic's singing dominates the former (and it's easier to capture the richness of the sound of vocals in memory IME) whereas the number one selling point of "Kiss Me" is the arrangement.

This is leading me down a wormhole of listening to Missy Higgins' "The Special Two" at 4am in the morning, oh no.

Tim F, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:18 (five years ago) link

Huh, "Sway" never charted in the states. That's...odd.

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link

Whut.

Never trust America.

Tim F, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:23 (five years ago) link

I lost interest in the Sundays with "Summertime" – 'ebullience' is the right word but it's too spelled out, didactic? You can see the DNA connecting it and "Kiss Me."

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link

Your reaction makes sense to me but I think "Summertime" benefits more from close attention - there's much more shade to its light than is first apparent. The way the second verse so closely mirrors the first but entirely reverses the narrative into one of tragedy and disaster, even if slightly winking, recasts the entire rest of the song (and retroactively the earlier stretch of the song) as an elegy to fleeting happiness - hence the final line, "...or have I read too much fiction? Is this how it happens?"

In this regard I wouldn't agree that it's "didactic" - the didactic version of the same song is probably The Future Bible Heroes' "Real Summer" (though that song prospers by its gloomy insistence on spelling things out).

Tim F, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:34 (five years ago) link

I lost interest in the Sundays with "Summertime"

smh

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:38 (five years ago) link

Your reaction makes sense to me but I think "Summertime" benefits more from close attention - there's much more shade to its light than is first apparent. The way the second verse so closely mirrors the first but entirely reverses the narrative into one of tragedy and disaster, even if slightly winking, recasts the entire rest of the song (and retroactively the earlier stretch of the song) as an elegy to fleeting happiness - hence the final line, "...or have I read too much fiction? Is this how it happens?"

there was a period a few years ago where i was really falling for someone but the entire situation was full of uncertainty and seemed like it could fall apart at any point and i sure did listen to "summertime" a lot then

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:40 (five years ago) link

Huh, "Sway" never charted in the states. That's...odd.

― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, June 19, 2018 11:19 AM (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh huh i guess i'm only aware of it bc of the american pie soundtrack

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:45 (five years ago) link

I think that's were most of us here discovered it.

It was a CVS jam for awhile.

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link


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