In retrospect, Eminem kind of sucks right?

always disliked Em's voice & flow

i hear those first two records as kind of out of like a zappa/beefheart (or kool keith, say) gonzo continuum, a lot of it still sounds kind of fucked up to me. "bonnie and clyde '97," "kill you," "kim," even "cleaning out my closet" (which is admittedly where things turned mawkish), it's pretty screwy. and the cuter songs have plenty of bizarro twists and turns too. i think his just plain weirdness is underrated.

i mean, i don't listen to "kim" much and never did, but when i do it doesn't sound ... like fred durst.

and i think it's one of the best murder ballads ever, but it's unpleasant to sit through.

dude is easier to take in the context of 16 bars on a d12 posse cut than whole tracks where he wont stfu about britney spears and being famous and shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgg2hHHtAsA

^^^^ i ride out to this

i pretty much don't like him cause he's always got this ugh man i'm just so fucking troubled, you wouldn't understand look
http://www.stuffwelike.com/stuffwelike/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/eminem.jpg

Remember when Eminem was America's bad boy? Simpler times.

burt_stanton is now public enemy #1

cheer up, doofus
http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/020520/103220__eminem_l.jpg

dude is easier to take in the context of 16 bars on a d12 posse cut than whole tracks where he wont stfu about britney spears and being famous and shit

-- and what

who gives a shit what hes talking about as long as he talks it well?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhfTl43ZV-I

^^^ big lolz back when this dropped

clean up your room, marshall
http://www.marksimpson.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/eminem2r2ck.jpg

what a shitty track

wil the real slim shaddy please stand up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HxiAamcHa8

even though he bit this verse from royce i still fux w/it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moMAorIEGXY

yall cant see me like ma$es eyebrows

classic underground ish with masta ace

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdS4ln9N3vs

http://www.hiphoprx.com/content/uploads/2007/07/eminem-headshot-grey.jpghttp://www.truthwinsout.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/obama.jpg

When he's talking serious shit his flow tends to get stuck in this monotone rut that is far less interesting than his surreal, D-12ish stuff, which has a more fluid, free style to it (both in terms of flow and in wordplay/content). As his career went on he got more into the former and that got boring real quick for me. Those first two albums are classic though.

I'm with John and Hoos, he wasn't really for everyone but you have to give him credit for being a really talented and creative rapper. Comparing him to Fred Durst is lunacy.

At what, 10 years old (?), I really loved "My Name Is" because it was super catchy. I liked it again in junior high because I thought the lyrics were funny. I stopped listening to Eminem until now, at 18, and it turns out I adore it even more because a) it is catchy, b) the lyrics are funny and c) jesus christ, it's twisted. i always wrote the song off as a clever list of celebrity jabs, but then when i start paying attention to lines like "99 percent of my life i was lied to" it finally hits me that this guy is actually a much more complex person than i ever gave him credit for...Really interesting rapper!

You were 10 years old when that came out? I'm ancient. I remember selling blank CDs in highschool of Eminem's Marshal Mathers whatever in 2000 when I found it on some mp3 FTP site (this was just a little before Napster, that's how you did it... all on a modem). People paid me $20 for that crap; people also had no idea what blank CDs were.

lol @ people arguing about Eminem in 2008

if you guys think he's just talking about michael and britney you're not listening close enough. and even when he's talking about michael and britney, he's sometimes talking about talking about michael and britney.

Finally, an ILMer that is younger than me!

I'll say OTM to those repping for Eminems guest spots being (mostly) superior to his solo stuff - not so much for the D12 records as, say, "Renegade" or the 2001 tracks. His flow and lyrical abilities, outstanding as they are, are more palatably digested in limited quantites. That nasal timbre can wreak havoc on the ears after a while.

Rev let us nostalgicate in peace.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhfTl43ZV-I

^^^ this is way more my shit than any of the singles I heard

wait Cunga how old are you??? I did not know you were younger than me

It's official Eminem is working on a new album.

It's been nearly four years since Em's latest studio album, Encore, but fans can now have something to look forward too. Dr. Dre's new protégé, Bishop Lamont, recently said the Eminem drought is almost over.

"Em is excited," Lamont told Entertainment Weekly. "He's been quiet too long, and he's got a lot to get off his chest."

While there is no release date just yet, the rapper's label confirmed that Eminem is back in the studio working on his next solo project.

Since the tragic death of his best friend and fellow rapper Proof, the 35-year-old rapper has been dealing with the grief and in the process has been MIA from the music scene.

However, Lamont says this new album will alleviate all that stress. "He went through what he had to go through, and now he's been able to take all the pain and stress and put it out in his music."

Stay tuned for further details.

you 35 and you still rappin? UHHHHH

Rev let us nostalgicate in peace.

-- adamj, Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:28 PM (Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:28 PM) Bookmark Link

ha I did bump renegade after seeing this thread tho

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i1u8nyb7eE

ha I did bump renegade after seeing this thread tho

-- The Reverend, Friday, July 18, 2008 5:40 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

for real

he's destined to be the cyndi lauper of the early 21st century

Best Eminem verse post-98 is on the "Lean Back" remix. Dude still sucks though.

looking at his list of UK singles now. first half is pretty unfuckwithable, second half is terrible.

15 consecutive top 8 hits tho

no one posted 'any man'?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRR4atZvnY0

i always kinda liked this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpSBcpj2-PY

this thread is making me nostalgic ;_; i feel old

It's not that he sucks, it's just that that Nu-Metal, Frat-Rap, American Pie, Tom Green, stupid white American grossout thing got old very fast and really it was he who broke the camels back - more to overexposure than anything else. Listening to Eminem sucks right now because he's too recent in our minds, but in ten years time people are going to be totally on this stuff and "My Name Is.." and "The Real Slim Shady" will be revived as awesome party anthems. It's just the natural retro curve doing its thing.

You know, it's been a while since we've had a pop pariah out there, bringing about society's downfall. My Chemical Romance as suicidal inspiration just doesn't cut it. WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF DESTROYING THE CHILDREN!

Unlikely because then they wouldn't be able to give away their new album free with the Mail On Sunday.

They could give away Snakes on a Plane! instead.

man I worked with troubled kids during Eminem's rise & high water days and I never saw anything like the bond his shit had with those kids

fuck hating on "kids' stuff," go listen to Yes

The hype was super-annoying & off-putting at the time, but he made a bunch of singles that sounded great cranked up in the car, so he def. did NOT suck!

Weird how long ago it seems now.

At first I thought Eminem was a kind of flash-in-the-pan joke rapper, like Humpty Hump or Paul Barman, and it turns out that he was exactly that, except completely brilliant (if a little repetitive).

"Purple Pills" is my favorite to crank up in the car.