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tried the demo, played two matches so far, and i'm certainly buying this. actually think this might live up to the hype.

love how smooth it all feels. 360 dribbling probably adds a lot to this (i suck at dribbling so can't really tell yet) but also just the flow in a match with very few cutscenes, the com team taking quick free kicks against you etc.

the fps seemed a bit so-so at times though?

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 10 September 2009 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link

which version are you playing?

Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 10 September 2009 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm on 360

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 10 September 2009 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link

This is the greatest video game ever.

I can understand the PES luddites not jumping ship last year because of FIFA 09 still being a bit treacly and unresponsive, but this is smooth as shit, it is manifest by the natural light.

Eugene Sander-Rygar (MPx4A), Thursday, 10 September 2009 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Minor niggles:

Been given a warning for an obvious yellow card
Been yellow carded for an obvious red card (same weirdly prevalent scything two footed tackle animation from last year)
5 minutes of first half stoppage time
Tyler and Gray appearing to remark on every goal celebration and thumbstick skill, including just rolling the ball half a yard with yr fuckin studs

Good:
Fluid as all hell
Trajectory of shots is more varied, long range side footed curlers with good players are fuckin vicious as per czn's video
Generally greater variety of outcomes in tackles and shit
Quick free kicks nicked wholesale from PES

Eugene Sander-Rygar (MPx4A), Thursday, 10 September 2009 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Have also already conceded a v realistic looking headed set-piece goal

Eugene Sander-Rygar (MPx4A), Thursday, 10 September 2009 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link

the replay function also sucks and i can't see any point with that pre-game warm up business.

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 10 September 2009 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Are the menus the same / insanely complicated mess as the last two years, or have they figured out something to make 'em a little more user friendly? Is there a way to turn off in game replays? Is there a way to turn off replays in 09?

Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 10 September 2009 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link

menus still ridiculous, and still laggy

framerate still appaling on replays and cutscenes

but yup it is the greatest videogame ever made

cozwn, Thursday, 10 September 2009 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link

I love how you don't even need to use either tackle button to win a ball too; you can just run into a player at the right momentum and angle and you'll take the ball like you would in real life

so good

cozwn, Thursday, 10 September 2009 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link

so fluid as mp4a says, the movement, the animation, everything

long passes are just vicious

cozwn, Thursday, 10 September 2009 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link

somes like some decent rpg lite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoqeaEAbhQQ&feature=player_embedded#t=135

cozwn, Friday, 11 September 2009 11:19 (fourteen years ago) link

seriously, this should just be out already

sonderangerbot, Friday, 11 September 2009 11:25 (fourteen years ago) link

So annoyed that the demo is only for lofty Gold Live members. :( What do we Silvers wait, a week? I'm not taking the chance of buying it without playing a demo first...

CraigG, Friday, 11 September 2009 11:34 (fourteen years ago) link

download it off a torrent site/rapidshare and burn to a disc?

cozwn, Friday, 11 September 2009 11:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Ah, cool. Will that work on 'legit' Xboxes like mine?

CraigG, Friday, 11 September 2009 11:49 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, works on any xbox, just burn the files to a disc and pop it in your 360

they normally load slower when running off disc, dunno if you can install demos to the HDD; doubt it

cozwn, Friday, 11 September 2009 11:52 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.easportsfootball.co.uk/media/play/video/9163445

This is not exciting but it does have a good run from full back and a good block that suggests the defenders take some interest in where the ball is.

Eugene Sander-Rygar (MPx4A), Friday, 11 September 2009 23:40 (fourteen years ago) link

EA are looking at the goalies apparently

u can filter online matches by team rating, assisted/manual controls and game speed

also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8tgRw8I7U0

cozwn, Saturday, 12 September 2009 10:12 (fourteen years ago) link

"Audio Director Jeff MacPherson answers the call to the many who have been asking about new commentary in FIFA 10. Here’s his first blog going in-depth with what fans can expect in this year’s game.
We know that in the past we’ve neglected to give Manager Mode the commentary depth it deserves. Quite frankly, we have been focused on the challenges of just getting a 90 minute match right! So, this year, for FIFA 10, we listened to the feedback and decided to devote a large portion of our commentary development time to supporting Manager Mode and Virtual Pro progression.

We designed over 150 new commentary “contexts” devoted to these modes with anywhere from two to twenty different phrases for each. There are lots of new types of team, player and manager banter talking about milestones, performance, stats and more. We’ve focused on intro and fulltime analysis that is relevant to where the player is in seasons and tournaments. When a player is in possession of the ball there are comments about his performance over the course of the match and over the course of the season. Different actions (i.e. tackles, misses, goals, etc.) are qualified using player traits and season/career statistics. There is feedback and hinting regarding the transfer window. There is feedback regarding manager job security and team budgets. Along with ensuring that there is enough coverage (breadth), we also aimed for depth - there are comments that you will not hear until well into a Manager Mode or Virtual pro career/progression.

Here are just a few examples of the types of commentary you can expect to hear as you progress through Manager Mode or use your Virtual Pro in FIFA10:
- Midfield banter about your teams league standing, where you are in the league, how you’ve been playing and how your team stacks up against your opponent
- Transfer window information like the window is opening; your team has made a transfer; the window is closing soon/closed; your team has the budget and should make a transfer before it is too late; etc.
- References to a player who has rarely been booked this season getting a red/yellow card
- All new fulltime analysis as it relates to cup and tournament progression; including reference to specific cups by name; multi-leg matches with aggregate scoring; etc.
- More intro and fulltime comments relating to season progression, where you stand in the table; if it looks like you’re going to win the league or, indeed, if you’ve already won the league; early season indicators based on performance; etc.
- Commentary is aware of and speaks about multi-game winning and losing streaks
- Virtual Pro goal milestones including number of goals for your club this season and number of consecutive matches scoring
- Comments based on stats as it relates to current action: i.e. if a player has scored many free kicks for your team this season this will be mentioned when he steps up to take a free kick; if you’re Virtual Pro has scored hat-tricks before for this club then it will be mentioned as he’s seeking out his third goal in a match; a strikers season performance is assessed for goals and misses (a high performing striker may get a hard time for missing while a low performing striker will cause surprise if he manages to score); passing percentage is taken into account as a player gives the ball up again or makes another successful pass; similarly, tackle percentage is taken into account when a player makes a successful tackle (or does not!)
- Transfer information: a noteworthy new transfer will be mentioned in the intro; when the new player has the ball we may hear about how he is old or young, or how expensive he was to the club and how the commentators may feel he’ll gel with the new club
- Player traits and play style are taken into account: i.e. players who are known for long-range shots will get more anticipation further away from goal and the commentators will be more lenient if he misses a long shot as he’s known to score from distance; mentions players with determination bringing up a team’s morale by still giving his all when they are down; players who score often from finesse shots are praised; a “playmaker” can be expected to play the ball to his teammates; players who tend to play out wide are referenced in that position; etc.
- Saves and misses preventing major milestones are mentioned and the rivalry between a player and the keeper in these situations is played up
- Player form is discussed
- More focus on the team captain: the team may have a new captain; the form of the current captain and how it affects the team; goals scored by the captain; etc.
- Many new introductions to season matches including: Virtual Pro debut; new transfers; players returning from injury/suspension; previous result against this opponent; winning and losing streaks; league table standings; how the team stacks up against their opponents; if a team is facing relegation or promotion; etc."

cozwn, Saturday, 12 September 2009 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.easportsfootball.co.uk/media/play/video/9208827

Eugene Sander-Rygar (MPx4A), Saturday, 12 September 2009 22:43 (fourteen years ago) link

nice! shd've ran to the fans at the other end tho

cozwn, Saturday, 12 September 2009 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link

any joy w/"skilled dribble" yet?

this ws good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BigVqfoD3LY

cozwn, Saturday, 12 September 2009 23:51 (fourteen years ago) link

I keep playing on top level and not getting enough space to do the fancy shit, I'll probably need a few hours on the new training thing. Also, it gives you Lampard on the start screen so you don't get an easy way to practice the top level/new skills.

I did some combined stepover/Marseille roulette thing that went between two players in a way that would have been impossible on FIFA 09 though, so that's good.

The 360 control is kind of a doubled edged sword in that it seems to affect the direction of your passes in a way that can make you pick out a guy you didn't want if you're all sloppy about it, and it also makes your first touch ridiculously important because it's so easy to run it out of play or accidentally towards another defender instead of just in a brutal straight line towards goal. It feels properly like the biggest step forward in a decade just to run around with it in general though, there's none of that "this is the same game from last year" feeling outside of the presentation/cutscene aspects

Eugene Sander-Rygar (MPx4A), Sunday, 13 September 2009 12:05 (fourteen years ago) link

it also makes your first touch ridiculously important because it's so easy to run it out of play or accidentally towards another defender instead of just in a brutal straight line towards goal

OTM. For the time being, this feels quite hard. You cannot get away with all the automatisms you acquired in previous editions

spiny doughboy (baaderonixx), Monday, 14 September 2009 08:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Do Brits care about these FIFA games as much as us Americans care about Madden? Do they make FIFA worse every year just like Madden, adding a bunch of useless bells and whistles?

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 14 September 2009 10:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Do they make FIFA worse every year just like Madden, adding a bunch of useless bells and whistles?

Do not want realistic Fratton Park atmosphere.

j.o.n.a, Monday, 14 September 2009 10:55 (fourteen years ago) link

there's no FIFA challenge, if that's what you're asking

and we have no ryanmoody21, sadly

cozwn, Monday, 14 September 2009 11:09 (fourteen years ago) link

played the 10 demo for 9 or 10 games and this is definitely playable, so it's an instant improvement on 09. i think i could actually play this if i had to, although it would take a bit of getting used to. the players seem to glide on the surface and the ball still moves weird, which is a fifa hallmark, but once i got used to it i wouldn't notice. i guess the pes demo comes out next month? i am in no hurry, so i will to try that before i make any decisions, but it is good to know that fifa is at least back in consideration.

aarrissi-a-roni, Monday, 14 September 2009 12:27 (fourteen years ago) link

not this seriously, sadly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds-yAQ3_zzs&feature=channel_page

cozwn, Monday, 14 September 2009 15:29 (fourteen years ago) link

emmanuel adebayor boycotting fifa 2010 over rating

cozwn, Monday, 14 September 2009 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link

i take it this won't be worth getting/available on PS2

Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Monday, 14 September 2009 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Do they make FIFA worse every year just like Madden, adding a bunch of useless bells and whistles?

For years they used to - then PES started overtaking them and getting more & more market share, so they started making it really good, just to show what they could have been doing all along.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Monday, 14 September 2009 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link

didn't know this - in 09 (so I guess in 10) if you tap LB when looking at another player, they'll make a forward run

hipster on a fixie - I know I know, it's serious (cozwn), Monday, 14 September 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link

pes demo tomorrow

cozwn, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 10:25 (fourteen years ago) link

spent all last night cursing at the stupidity of the control in PES2009 legend mode. so, so frustrating.

What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 10:28 (fourteen years ago) link

still spent all night at it, mind.

What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 10:28 (fourteen years ago) link

come to the dark side (get a next gen console and an HDTV first tho obv)

cozwn, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 10:29 (fourteen years ago) link

by the time i've reached the dark side, light will be back in fashion.

What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 10:31 (fourteen years ago) link

do we have enough people here to start an ILX/FIFA league thingy?

spiny doughboy (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 10:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm down for that and possibly for some clubs action

cozwn, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 10:40 (fourteen years ago) link

u r on ps3 tho, right? I think the majority of us might be on 360

no 5 star teams?

I don't know how it works this year but last year there was a screen on your leagues page which showed you who was all online at any one time from a given league

cozwn, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 10:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Apparently you can already upload your picture and make your guy?

Eugene Sander-Rygar (MPx4A), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 10:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Def up for doing a league, only real problem last year was that they had all this online stuff you could do but I ended up just playing it against random terrible mongs and getting frustrated.

Eugene Sander-Rygar (MPx4A), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 10:46 (fourteen years ago) link

not kidding about the HDTV. i'm still playing on a standard 21", which is "okay" with most games if i sit close enough, but managing the squad and formations in FIFA is hella hard

btw now PES claims to have 360 dribbling too. when did they think of this?

xps i'm up for a league, if i get some time to work on my skills first

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 10:47 (fourteen years ago) link

hmmm, seems I'm on my own on the ps3 here...

spiny doughboy (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 12:08 (fourteen years ago) link

After further play:

+ Overhead kick clearances
+ Seems more possible for good penalties to go in even if the keeper goes the right way

- Saved penalties still ridiculous one handed supersaves that go out for a throw

Eugene Sander-Rygar (MPx4A), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 12:32 (fourteen years ago) link

I stopped playing the demo cos i. I hate demos and ii. I want to savour the wait cos I'm all calvinist or protestant (or whatever faction) like that

cozwn, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link

waiting for finished video games was actually one of the major points of disagreements between the calvinists and the lutherans, ironically.

What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 15:35 (fourteen years ago) link


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