I think the other poll doesn't come up in the search results cause of the quotation marks, fwiw
voted dreamz
― iatee, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:20 (fourteen years ago) link
d'oh. i guess "Rumours" doesn't come up when you search Rumours w/o quotes? xpxp
― ian, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:21 (fourteen years ago) link
well i think i missed that one and am voting second hand news in this one.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:21 (fourteen years ago) link
this time, YMLF gets it
― suzi cointreau (electricsound), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Right now it would be Never Going Back Again. Probably voted different in the other polls.
― carne asada, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:23 (fourteen years ago) link
aw man my memory sucks. i posted on that other poll!
― ian, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:24 (fourteen years ago) link
"The Chain" appears to be the favorite 20 years after hearing for the first time. Still, mostly classics all the way through this one.
― slagterm, Thursday, 17 September 2009 00:55 (fourteen years ago) link
just listened to this this morning, after watching the Classic Albums dvd last night. obv impossible to choose but today i'll go for YMLF.
― jabba hands, Thursday, 17 September 2009 03:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Dreams or Go Your Own Way
― akm, Thursday, 17 September 2009 03:33 (fourteen years ago) link
oh man i love the drumming in the chorus before the 'don't break the spell' bit on you make loving fun SO SO MUCH
― million dollar pig junior (electricsound), Friday, 18 September 2009 06:41 (fourteen years ago) link
i love lindsay's pre-chorus ("i never did believe...") arpeggiations that he purged from the demo but he played live, eg:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoMWa3jRtLo
― *⁂((✪⥎✪))⁂* (Steve Shasta), Friday, 18 September 2009 07:02 (fourteen years ago) link
totally
― million dollar pig junior (electricsound), Friday, 18 September 2009 07:23 (fourteen years ago) link
YMLF, for "...but i've a feeling it's time to try"
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 18 September 2009 08:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Saturday, 19 September 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Want to listen to this right now.
― Trip Maker, Saturday, 19 September 2009 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Sunday, 20 September 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link
oh daddy always strikes out
― million dollar pig junior (electricsound), Sunday, 20 September 2009 23:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Kinda surprised nobody voted for "Don't Stop". One of the biggest hits off the album and all....
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Monday, 21 September 2009 13:27 (fourteen years ago) link
I hate it.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 September 2009 13:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Didn't even realize that this was a new poll. I would've voted for "You Make Loving Fun"
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 21 September 2009 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't mind "Don't Stop" but it's difficult to imagine an actual Fleetwood Mac fan plumping for it even if they like Christie most - "You Make Loving Fun" is not just better but a much better encapsulation of her strengths. Which is a misleading way to put it: the drawback for "Don't Stop" is that it's too strong, too blithe, whereas her finest songs ("Over My Head", "Say That You Love Me", "You Make Loving Fun", "Hold Me", "Love In Store", "Everywhere", "Little Lies", "Isn't It Midnight") all possess a wonderful blend of strength and fragility.
― Tim F, Monday, 21 September 2009 14:01 (fourteen years ago) link
surprised at the winner, to be honest.
― ABSOLUTELY NO SCRUBS WHATSOEVER, Monday, 21 September 2009 15:24 (fourteen years ago) link
Sure, but there's a wistfulness in "Don't Stop" too; she's pumping herself up.
― vulva eyes (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 September 2009 15:35 (fourteen years ago) link
I can't believe the result here. I PROTEST. GOLD DUST WOMAN should have won!!! Do people listen to this regularly or did they just vote based on memory?
― MCCCXI (u s steel), Monday, 21 September 2009 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link
i voted "i don't wanna know" last time, might have gone for "second hand news" this time for variety.
― flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Monday, 21 September 2009 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link
I did vote for 'Gold Dust Woman' but honestly, any of these songs (except 'Don't Stop') would be a worthy winner of any poll.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 September 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link
nah, "oh daddy" deserves what it gets imo.maybe it was less creepy to call ppl daddy in the seventies.
still listen to this on the regular btw--twice last week, at least.
― ian, Monday, 21 September 2009 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm not sure it was less creepy then either! That song is chilling, for all the right reasons.
― vulva eyes (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 September 2009 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link
I think Don't Stop also suffers thanks to the Clintons, maybe?
― dlp9001, Monday, 21 September 2009 18:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Maybe 4 days is too short for a poll, especially when 2 of those days are holidays?
― Mordy, Monday, 21 September 2009 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh Daddy in the 80's:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2a4uf_adrian-belew-oh-daddy_music
― dlp9001, Monday, 21 September 2009 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link
The last minute of "Second Hand News" sounds like the armies of Mordor marching, especially the bass rolling like thundah. There's a bit of disconnect between that martial sound & the ostensible subject-matter of the song, unless the idea is that the "stuff" he wants to do is sinister.
― Euler, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link
cocaine obv
― consolation pies (electricsound), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link
"marching powder"
DOWNDOWNDOWNDOWNDOWNDOWNDOWNDOWNDOWNDOWNDOWNDOWNDOWNDOWNDOWNDOWNVVDOWNDOWNDOWNDOWN
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link
was i the only one to vote for "songbird" in this poll? come on! (it is possible that i did not vote in this poll, though).
― tylerw, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 22:56 (thirteen years ago) link
I would have voted The Chain, followed by Go Your Own Way, and Never Goin' Back Again.
the Lindsey Buckingham chorus is just such a tonal shift from the verse, and the rideout harmonized vocals are fantastic.
btw tylerw I considered Songbird...good song.
― Bo Jackson Cruise Control (San Te), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 22:56 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm 35, have listened to this album hundreds of times, and am only now understanding the relationships it limns.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link
First listen: great pop songs with a tough rhythm section!Second listen: three distinct excellent singer-songwriters!----------Four hundred-third listen: They're talking about my life.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 23:03 (thirteen years ago) link
listened to it again the other night and was struck by how sophisticated it is - in songwriting, production, subject matter, even attitude considering what was going on behind the scenes. it's such an Adult album in a trad juvenile genre.
― Aqua Buddha (herb albert), Thursday, 9 September 2010 01:49 (thirteen years ago) link
i sure as hell wouldn't sing backing vocals on a song accusing me of "shacking up" with other people.
― Bo Jackson Cruise Control (San Te), Thursday, 9 September 2010 03:25 (thirteen years ago) link
― ian, Monday, September 21, 2009 12:13 PM (11 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Me too. It's so good.
Would have voted Go Your Own Way or maybe Second Hand News. This is tough!
― o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Thursday, 9 September 2010 04:39 (thirteen years ago) link
I got the remastered two-disc set recently. It's got an alternate 'You Make Loving Fun' with different backing vocals in all the wrong places, which is pretty awesome.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 September 2010 06:54 (thirteen years ago) link
does anybody else unfailingly skip over "don't stop"? can't stand that shit.
― hobbes, Thursday, 9 September 2010 07:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Me. I think what I hate about it is the relentless jauntiness of the tune. If it had a couple of minor notes, or a few triplets, I might totally change my view.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 September 2010 08:39 (thirteen years ago) link
I love "Don't Stop". Yeah, it's way jaunty (it's nearly an ABBA song), but I like to think that's tempered a bit by the dark subject matter.
― ground zero μ-Ziq (kkvgz), Thursday, 9 September 2010 09:50 (thirteen years ago) link
It makes sense in context. Squeezed between despairing tracks, it sounds like an unanswered prayer.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 September 2010 12:24 (thirteen years ago) link
was "The Chain" the lol lurker/spoiler vote cuz that's kinda challoppy imho
― i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 07:39 (thirteen years ago) link
you don't like the chain?
― Babylon and zing (stevie), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 11:55 (thirteen years ago) link
can someone tell me for sure what syllable lindsey buckingham is saying repeatedly during "second hand news," this question has been on my mind for quite some time now -- is it "down" or some other miscellaneous syllable?
― teledyldonix, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^thinking about when songs like this and silver springs get left off a record it ~blows me away~.
― taco al pastorius (Steve Shasta), Monday, 21 March 2011 04:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Currently the #11 album in the U.S.A.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 15:48 (twelve years ago) link
damn you, you beat me.
― ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
and on the same week that Stevie Nicks' new album debuts too.
― ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
this is hilarious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQeBWNRi1nY
― da croupier, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
shit gets real at :50
― da croupier, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
guitar faces come fast and hard at 1:35 in this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2kPuSH9Pvc
― da croupier, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
Is this Glee's doing? ('Oh Daddy' was robbed here btw)
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
from billboard:
Right outside the top 10 is Fleetwood Mac's 1977 album "Rumours," which re-enters at No. 11 with just under 30,000 (up 1,951%) thanks to exposure gleaned from the May 3 episode of Fox TV's "Glee," which dedicated its entire hour to the album. Of its almost 30,000 haul last week, a full 91% were downloads. The week previous, the set sold just over 1,000 total copies.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
from wikipedia: Will tells April about the current glee club tensions, which she likens to Fleetwood Mac when they were making their Rumours album. Will and April sing Dreams to the club, and he assigns the album to get them focused back on music.
It still sells a thousand a week, thirty-four years later?! Lindsay must eat & drink money.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link
He has a recording studio made out of gold bars, with bathroom tiles glued over them for that echo.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
he also keeps the entire USC marching band circa 1980 in an italian villa, just in case he needs them.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
I'm watching this right now (and hopefully further lining Lindsay's pockets indirectly)
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 May 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
Lindsey, jeez - I always do that
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 May 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
i don't want to know = the secret best song on this record.
― tylerw, Friday, 28 October 2011 17:48 (twelve years ago) link
I keep forgetting about that one. If I'd have voted in this poll when it first came up I would have went for 'You Make Loving Fun' immediately. It's all about John McVie's bass playing and the background harmonies in the chorus for me. He must have been thrilled to play bass on it, though.
― Turrican, Friday, 28 October 2011 17:58 (twelve years ago) link
Has the original mix of Silver Springs ever been on CD?
― aluminum rivets must not be proud of their plastic bosses (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 21 April 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
― tylerw, Friday, October 28, 2011
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 April 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
Got the superduper reissue today - the 'new' outtakes are really great, kinda baffled that the 2004 reissue didn't use them instead of the barely different mixes. Things like Lindsey and Stevie duetting on Never Going Back again, which has bongos, brushes, piano and different guitar licks, a Stevie demo of 'The Chain' that is a completely different tune apart from the chorus (and 'Keep Me There', a completely different song where the end of The Chain comes from, but can't remember whether that was on the 2004 one), Dreams with just the Rhodes/minimal guitar riffs, a really intimate demo of Songbird...
Live disc is kinda perfunctory, but a nice set of performances and sounds super clean, haven't watched the DVD yet, and the vinyl is lovely.
― insert witticism here (hypehat), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
Also, infuriatingly, absolutely no mention of where these things come from, dates, etc, in the book, but maybe that's asking a bit too much. Got Ken Caillat's book for that, but it's a bit light at points.
― insert witticism here (hypehat), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
Someone pointed out the other day Mick's trucknuts on the cover and now I can't unsee them as trucknuts.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
Ken Caillat's head was undoubtedly a bit 'light at points' during the making of the record, mind!
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 16:19 (eleven years ago) link
Haha, no kidding...
― insert witticism here (hypehat), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
haha I just noticed someone (Lindsey, presumably) whispers "fuck" at the beginning of "The Chain"
― radric: the guccining (The Reverend), Sunday, 10 March 2013 10:11 (eleven years ago) link
Ha wow, good spot!
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 10 March 2013 10:55 (eleven years ago) link
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, September 8, 2010 4:03 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
alfred otm
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 April 2013 23:11 (eleven years ago) link
sweet. "dreams" is my favorite from this album.
― authentically inauthentic (Pat Finn), Friday, 19 April 2013 03:55 (eleven years ago) link
Never heard this demo of "Dreams" before, the backing track is a pretty different direction then what was committed to the LP:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIt7SpT_06M
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 14 December 2014 02:19 (nine years ago) link
Would've voted "Silver Springs" if it made the LP. Have to say "Dreams" though.
― Ross, Monday, 21 November 2016 03:56 (seven years ago) link
Silver Springs was cut out of spite by Lindsey, right? according to Stevie, I Don't Want to Know was an old Buckingham/Nicks song that Lindsey insisted on re-recording in lieu of putting Silver Springs on the record (both couldn't be included because of side length).
― flappy bird, Monday, 21 November 2016 04:37 (seven years ago) link
I believe "Silver Springs" was cut because there was not enough space on the LP and the band didn't think it fit with the feel of the album. However, it's one of the most achingly pointed love songs she wrote about Lindsey.
― Ross, Monday, 21 November 2016 15:08 (seven years ago) link
Should've been a landslide for Dreams
― niels, Monday, 21 November 2016 15:47 (seven years ago) link
xp i can't remember which Fmac book/autobio i read this in, but Silver Springs was recorded early on and bumped before time was an issue- Lindsey insisted on re-recording I Don't Want to Know in its place.
― flappy bird, Monday, 21 November 2016 18:05 (seven years ago) link
Was just checking the expanded CD, and Rumours w/"Silver Springs" weighs in at 44:50, which I guess would have messed up the dynamic range on vinyl some.
― a full playlist of presidential apocalypse jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 21 November 2016 18:11 (seven years ago) link
I wrote it for Rumours, and fourteen years ago I walked into the studio and the record was basically done. It was at the Record Plant, and Mick said, 'Stevie, I need vou to come outside to the parking lot cause I need to talk to vou for a minute.' And I knew it was reallv serious 'cause Mick never asks you to go out to the parking lot for anything.So we walked to the huge Record Plant parking lot and he said, 'I'm taking Silver Springs off the record.' And, of course, my first reaction was, 'Why?' And he said, 'There's a lot of reasons, but because basicallv it's just too long. And we think that there's another of vour songs that's better, so that's what we want to do.' Before I started to get upset about Silver Springs, I said, 'What other song?' And he said, 'A song called I Don't Want To Know.' And I said, 'But I don't want that song on this record.' And he said, 'Well, then don't sing it.'And then I started to scream bloody murder and probablv said every horriblv mean thing that you could possibly say to another human being, and walked back in the studio completely flipped out. I said, 'Well, I'm not gonna sing I Don't Want To Know. I am one-fifth of this band.' And they said. 'Well, if vou don't like it, you can either (a) take a hike or (b) you better go out there and sing I Don't Want To Know or you're only gonna have two songs on the record.' And so, basically, with a gun to my head, I went out and sang I Don't Want To Know. And they put Silver Springs on the back of Go Your Own Way.~Stevie Nicks, BBC radio interview, 1991
So we walked to the huge Record Plant parking lot and he said, 'I'm taking Silver Springs off the record.' And, of course, my first reaction was, 'Why?' And he said, 'There's a lot of reasons, but because basicallv it's just too long. And we think that there's another of vour songs that's better, so that's what we want to do.' Before I started to get upset about Silver Springs, I said, 'What other song?' And he said, 'A song called I Don't Want To Know.' And I said, 'But I don't want that song on this record.' And he said, 'Well, then don't sing it.'
And then I started to scream bloody murder and probablv said every horriblv mean thing that you could possibly say to another human being, and walked back in the studio completely flipped out. I said, 'Well, I'm not gonna sing I Don't Want To Know. I am one-fifth of this band.' And they said. 'Well, if vou don't like it, you can either (a) take a hike or (b) you better go out there and sing I Don't Want To Know or you're only gonna have two songs on the record.' And so, basically, with a gun to my head, I went out and sang I Don't Want To Know. And they put Silver Springs on the back of Go Your Own Way.
~Stevie Nicks, BBC radio interview, 1991
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Monday, 21 November 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link
Stevie also speaks about in that great Classic Albums documentary MaresNest posted on the Fleetwood Mac: C or D thread.
― Ross, Monday, 21 November 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link
there should be a Fleetwood Mac bootleg series
― niels, Monday, 21 November 2016 21:06 (seven years ago) link
the bass played on The Chain supposedly for sale
https://reverb.com/item/6414168-alembic-series-graphite-john-mcvie-actual-bass?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIrLT5weHs2QIVT6ppCh2usw_IEAEYASAEEgLz-vD_BwE&pla=1
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 21:33 (six years ago) link
yowthat is one ugly-as-sin bass
― in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 22:44 (six years ago) link
how in the world did "go your own way" win this with twice as many votes as "dreams"
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 22:48 (six years ago) link
Karl read my mind.
― kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 23:53 (six years ago) link
yeah Dreams is far ahead of anything else on this flawless classic
― niels, Thursday, 15 March 2018 07:24 (six years ago) link