"Giant" got reissued on CD a few years ago with the early singles added on, "Well Well Well," "It Will Come," etc. Spectacular.
Also Rolo was mentioned in the Fall song "Slang King." "McGinty thought he could fool the Fall with his imitation speed..."
― Maltodextrin, Saturday, 19 September 2009 05:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Duh, I got the wrong Fall song. It's "Pat, Trip Dispenser," not "Slang King."
― Maltodextrin, Saturday, 19 September 2009 07:06 (fourteen years ago) link
There's some nice stuff up on Youtube for these guys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41bHVEHOxQE
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Saturday, 19 September 2009 07:30 (fourteen years ago) link
damn. that live album.fucking brilliant.lets hope they get/got a few more punters at their uk gigs than is mentioned in the recent quietus review.
― mark e, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 11:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, the live album is really cool. That's the only album by them I've got. It's a little disappointing to me that the studio stuff doesn't replicate their live aesthetic a little more.
― everything, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link
i agree. i put on the other albums afterwards, and while some of the tunes still make me tingle, nothing gave me that buzz like the full on rhythmic assault of the live set.i see cherry red have reissued all the albums on cd, each with extra tracks .. i may succumb to the urge.
― mark e, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link
I just realized I do have other stuff by them. I picked up a real old, real cheap CD of Giant not that long ago. After years of playing livehypnobeatlive, everything on Giant sounded so sedate. Has there ever been a band who sounded this different live?
― everything, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link
There's a remix of Well Well Well somewhere. It's longer and more banging. It's great but I can't remember where it came from though.
― everything, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link
The BBC sessions disc is ace as well. Word is they've reformed and have a new record due out - I have very low expectations.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link
possibly this remix : http://www.discogs.com/Woodentops-Everyday-Living/release/993658 ?
the beats are a lot heavier.
and yes, gerald, they have reformed.
review of recent gig posted on the quietus site.
― mark e, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link
I've got the Well Well Well 12" and that's a lot longer than the 7" version and with added noisy chaos.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link
That version is on this: http://www.discogs.com/Woodentops-Well-Well-Well--The-Unabridged-Singles-Collection/release/987448
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 4 March 2010 03:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Okay. That's the one I was thinking of. I'm listening now and it's the shit. For some reason I thought it was longer - like about 6 minutes, but I must've imagined that.
― everything, Thursday, 4 March 2010 04:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Saw Giant at a thrift store for $1, pulled it out, turned to the kid next to me and said "I already have two copies of this, you should get it." He did. Hope he likes it. What's not to like?
Really surprised this thread isn't longer.
― john. a resident of chicago., Tuesday, 10 May 2011 04:35 (twelve years ago) link
yes !
today one little indian announced a 3 cd set coming out at the end of may.
both albums remastered + remixes, live stuff, and unreleased material they recorded for a never finished 3rd album.
well chuffed as my original vinyl of GIANT has worn out ...
actually the quality of the pressing was always crap - so to have this stuff in full quality has been on my wishlist for years !
― mark e, Thursday, 4 April 2013 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
arse.
this version is not included ... was looking forward to hearing this.
from what i can tell, the only version of 'well well well', included is a 4 minute version
humph ..
still no jumps, no clicks and pops throughout this bands mix of indie guitars and dance floor friendliness makes me grin like a cheshire cat
― mark e, Thursday, 4 April 2013 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
I think I've got a Bang the Party mix of one of their tunes
ooh .. this is included.not got to it yet ..
― mark e, Thursday, 4 April 2013 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
i will buy this thing i think, it'll be great to listen to when springtime finally arrives
― acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Thursday, 4 April 2013 21:22 (eleven years ago) link
I need to check these guys out
― the dubious bros. (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 4 April 2013 23:54 (eleven years ago) link
yup. if you like late 80s indie via some mad mad stripped-to-the-max beats (live versions), you do.whereas, giant, just sounds bloody gorgeous at last ..
― mark e, Friday, 5 April 2013 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
Pretty psyched to hear about this, anyone have a tracklisting yet?
Still not sure what other longer version of "Well Well Well" you lot are looking for, there isn't a 6 minute version as far as I know. Let's hope it shows up on the box.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 5 April 2013 03:05 (eleven years ago) link
track listing :
CD1 01. Get It On 3:21CD1 02. Good Thing 3:48CD1 03. Give It Time 3:48CD1 04. Love Train 3:08CD1 05. Hear Me James 3:40CD1 06. Love Affairs 3:51CD1 07. So Good Today 3:03CD1 08. Shout 2:11CD1 09. History 3:24CD1 10. Travelling Man 3:18CD1 11. Last Time 4:10CD1 12. Everything Breaks 4:52CD1 13. I Want Your Love 4:06CD1 14. Good Thing Remix 5:18CD1 15. Travelling Man Remix 4:29CD1 16. Love Affair With Everyday Living (Adrian Sherwood Remix) 4:13CD1 17. Why Why Why (Adrian Sherwood Mix) 7:55CD1 18. Give It Time (Adrian Sherwood Remix) 5:43CD2 01. Maybe It Won't Last 3:05CD2 02. They Can Say What They Want 4:16CD2 03. You Make Me Feel 3:11CD2 04. Wheels Turning 5:18CD2 05. Stop This Car 3:22CD2 06. Heaven 4:07CD2 07. What You Give Out 3:28CD2 08. Tuesday Wednesday 3:33CD2 09. In A Dream 3:32CD2 10. Stop This Car (Ian Tregoning/Rolo Remix) 7:40CD2 11. Wheels Turning (Adrian Sherwood Remix) 6:03CD2 12. In A Dream (Glastonbury 87) 2:21CD2 13. Keep A Knockin' (Adrian Sherwood Mix) 5:13CD2 14. Surely (Rough Mix) 4:20This document was created using iPool music promotion software - http://iPool.infoCD2 15. Pleasure 4:46CD2 16. You Could Be Happy 4:30CD2 17. Umeboshi Plum 6:06CD3 01. Plenty 3:18CD3 02. Have You Seen The Lights 3:04CD3 03. Move Me 4:35CD3 04. Well Well Well 4:22CD3 05. It Will Come 3:10CD3 06. Do It Anyway 2:42CD3 07. Steady Steady 6:11CD3 08. Plutonium Rock 2:42CD3 09. Get It On Live (Glastonbury 1987) 3:57CD3 10. Why Why Why (Balearic Re-Edit) 5:44CD3 11. Give It Time (Arthur Baker Dub) 7:24CD3 12. Tainted World (Kid Batchelor Rub) 6:26CD3 13. I'd Love You Again 4:41CD3 14. Children Of Today 6:23CD3 15. Conehead 5:59CD3 16. Don't 6:07CD3 17. Everybody 2:23
― mark e, Friday, 5 April 2013 10:33 (eleven years ago) link
Huh, it seems they're missing "Get It On (single version)", "Special Friend" and "Cold Inside" from the "Well Well Well" singles comp.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 5 April 2013 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
i honestly had no idea before today that rolo mcginty had previously been in both the wild swans and the jazz butcher
― acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Friday, 5 April 2013 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
umm neither had i until now ..
― mark e, Friday, 5 April 2013 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
only found this out cos i was listening to giant and thought to myself 'hey this makes me want to listen to southern mark smith by the jazz butcher'. googled that, got the whole story on the fall's 'pat, trip dispenser' etc
― acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Friday, 5 April 2013 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
"McGinty thought he could fool the Fall with his imitation speed!"
― acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Friday, 5 April 2013 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
ha !
well i never.
then again, it seems that the jazz butcher had a lot of passing through trade : http://www.jazzbutcher.com/htdb/people
for years i thought rolo was the same rolo in faithless.
i wrote this somewhere on the wire, and then many years later, out of the blue i got an email from rolo telling me straight that he was not the same rolo as the faithless rolo.
cant recall the reason as to why i thought it was the same guy but still, that email was a bit of a 'whoaaa .. this internet thing gets a bit mad at times' moment
― mark e, Friday, 5 April 2013 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
hahaha, poor rolo!
― acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Friday, 5 April 2013 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
mad list of jazz butcher conspirators. recognised the names of a good few blue aeroplanes, some bauhaus dudes, sonic boom, laurence from dark star...
― acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Friday, 5 April 2013 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
exactly .. for a while they were the clearly the indie youth club band ..
― mark e, Friday, 5 April 2013 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
w-wait Butch is the 'Pat' in Pat-Trip Dispenser and Rolo is the McGinty?!?!?!?!
― Jopy's on a vacation far away (Jon Lewis), Friday, 5 April 2013 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
alas not! pat squishes that theory on that link i posted :(
― acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Friday, 5 April 2013 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
"So there you have it. Not the JBC, but some dodgy Mancunian c***. Hope that clears things up."
https://soundcloud.com/#cherryredrecords/a-little-more-time-the
― peepee, Thursday, 23 January 2014 14:41 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCIxkdqnRsY
Love the new album!
http://www.musicomh.com/reviews/albums/woodentops-granular-taleshttp://louderthanwar.com/the-woodentops-granular-tales-album-review/http://flipsideflipsidereviews.blogspot.com/2014/01/album-review-woodentops-granular-tales.htmlhttp://agitreader.com/wp2/the-woodentops-granular-tales/
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:00 (ten years ago) link
nice to see love.not had the urge re the new album, as the recent 3cd boxset reissue fills all my needs .. am i bad man to hold such an attitude ?
― mark e, Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:55 (ten years ago) link
Not bad, but you should pick it up, it's fun. And Rolo is a very personable fellow on Facebook, I've found!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:06 (ten years ago) link
yeah, i have chatted to rolo in times gone by ..
properly decent bloke ..
― mark e, Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:09 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7scqCGLmnkA
^ think this song was their big breakthrough but at the time i thought it was a bit too goofy with that bluebells-y fiddle in the chorus and all. not sure i've really changed my mind on that, but listening to it now and i'd not really noticed before that it's not too distant from a lot of flying nun stuff from that era. anyhow i gotta check this new stuff out i guess
― narcissism of vas deferenses (NickB), Friday, 4 April 2014 07:35 (ten years ago) link
i suppose that's just the whole velvetsy hypnosis-thru-strumming common-root influence manifesting itself. that and the organ.
i have got a bit bored by some of this 3-disc box but the adrian sherwood mix of why why why is superb! well well well still crushes too
― narcissism of vas deferenses (NickB), Friday, 4 April 2014 10:39 (ten years ago) link
well well well why why why
― narcissism of vas deferenses (NickB), Friday, 4 April 2014 10:40 (ten years ago) link
SO much Suicide in this group.
Bravo!
― mr.raffles, Sunday, 17 July 2016 07:06 (seven years ago) link
Tri-annual reminder how great this band is/was.
Only now learned that Scott Litt produced Wooden Foot Cops on the Highway. I don't go back to it as often as Giant.
Good interview w/ Rolo here:https://palebloomsandbeyond.wordpress.com/2013/05/26/the-woodentops-rolo-mcginty-interview/
― j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Saturday, 12 October 2019 22:46 (four years ago) link
There was a cool interview with him in a recent issue of Electronic Sound. It's not online as far as I can see. It's about the details of recording the livehypnobeat album and particularly Why Why Why which I now learned is a Balaeric classic.
― everything, Sunday, 13 October 2019 00:30 (four years ago) link
i got the vinyl comp Well Well Well at the time and they were so hyper electric and at times cathartic feeling, it was an amazing intro for me. when giant dropped, i liked it a lot, but the urgency wasn't quite so present. my tastes didn't even have me get to wooden foot cops by then. i had no idea they had a 2014 release, i'm about to listen out of curiosity.
― Hunt3r, Sunday, 13 October 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link
I don't know what the hell "Umeboshi Plum" is (off the box set) but it's awesome, it's like Balearic post-punk or something.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 03:08 (three years ago) link
(re: Why Why Why)
The version of the song that became a hit in Ibiza was taken from the concert recording Live Hypnobeat Live. Recorded at The Palace Theatre, Los Angeles in 1986. Do you have any particular memories of that gig? I heard a story that the band had taken Ecstasy during the performance. Is this true? Or a Balearic myth?No, it`s not Balearic myth. It was our first time, so it was a stand out night for us and we pretty much forgot we were recording live – for the KROQ radio station – and really went for it. At the time we had no reason to think we were recording a live album. I remember much about the show. The bizarre sight of Donny Osmond and a camera crew wading through the crowd. Donny was having a 60 Minutes documentary filmed about him. Being on the same label as us, he could get free tickets to any hot show in town, and bring a film crew, which he did. Large silver lighting umbrellas cameras and lights followed him. So his entrance at the back there was pretty high profile. They made their way through the middle of the crowd. I could just make out a large white blur. In the song Move Me you can hear me saying “What is that?” I found out later it was him and he came down to meet us.
No, it`s not Balearic myth. It was our first time, so it was a stand out night for us and we pretty much forgot we were recording live – for the KROQ radio station – and really went for it. At the time we had no reason to think we were recording a live album. I remember much about the show. The bizarre sight of Donny Osmond and a camera crew wading through the crowd. Donny was having a 60 Minutes documentary filmed about him. Being on the same label as us, he could get free tickets to any hot show in town, and bring a film crew, which he did. Large silver lighting umbrellas cameras and lights followed him. So his entrance at the back there was pretty high profile. They made their way through the middle of the crowd. I could just make out a large white blur. In the song Move Me you can hear me saying “What is that?” I found out later it was him and he came down to meet us.
― by the light of the burning Citroën, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link