Chicago: Where have all the serial killers gone?

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Kenan, I think there are dot-coms and ad agencies that do that. I like the idea of retrieving the bong from a mahogany sideboard.

Julia - yeah, it's a preview (and I'm going assuming it won't be sold out - if it is, I'll do quality time at TTs). I'll keep an eye out for Poor Tom.

"They're so overrated, I call 'em bore-gasms."

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

In the movies smoking seems like a genteel ritual; you pull out the pack, offer one to your companion, pull out one for yourself and then light the other person's.

It's like opening a car door for your date. When someone goes to smoke and offers me one, I think it's old-school gentlemanly.

There are no aliens landing in my

― The Pig on the Stairs (hanging in a groovy purple shirt) (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Sarah - look around for new work!

Lindsay, my pal and housemate (some of you know her through Kelsey and John), just got a temp-to-perm job in the nanotechnology dept. at N-Western.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

ha ha EZ. I am imagining a jaded artsy gen-Xer dropping his/her nail file during the alleged "climax."

― The Pig on the Stairs (hanging in a groovy purple shirt) (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I like everything else about my job. Also, I hate the whole job search process. :-(

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I read some critical theory about Mamet's plays once that talked about how the Aristotelian structure was essentially male and climax-driven. As opposed to foofy, non-linear lady-art/lady-sex.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I have a meeting tomorrow at 2 World Trade Center.

― The Pig on the Stairs (hanging in a groovy purple shirt) (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Special Topics in Non-Linear Sex

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd prefer if you walked into the boss's office and he said, "Wanna hit?" and pulled out a three foot glass bong, and then you sat around and did a few massive bong hits and got all chinese-eyed.

He's hip, he's cool, he's 45!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

"He slobbered on my pot."

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

"Reference?"

"Rockin'."

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.buenaventurapress.com/kramersergot/images/KE6-Preview4.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

not getting jokes

― The Pig on the Stairs (hanging in a groovy purple shirt) (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Kids in the Hall.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse what the fucking fuck -- are you going to be in NYC tomorrow, or did I just mis-read something?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

No. From my understanding 2 WTC in NYC was destroyed in a fire. I'm going to 2 WTC here in NO.

― The Pig on the Stairs (hanging in a groovy purple shirt) (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

From my understanding 2 WTC in NYC was destroyed in a fire.

I heard about that, too! It was years ago, seems like.

― always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Hush, all of you. You could have been going to the site for a tour, or something to do with the memorial...how should I know??

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

buildings get destroyed, addresses don't.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Malarky.

― The Pig on the Stairs (hanging in a groovy purple shirt) (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

The whole complex was destroyed. The new address for the whole place is Ground Zero, USA.

― The Pig on the Stairs (hanging in a groovy purple shirt) (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Isn't there a WTC in Chicago? There's one in most cities, it seems.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Didn't I just malarky you yesterday, Kevin? Don't make me do it again.

― The Pig on the Stairs (hanging in a groovy purple shirt) (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Sort of. It's in the Merchandise Mart.

― The Pig on the Stairs (hanging in a groovy purple shirt) (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I was thinking more like this.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a World Trade Center in downtown St. Paul. It used to house the Musicland where I worked in high school.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.bluffton.edu/~sullivanm/stone/amoco.jpg

― always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

In that case I guess the answer is No, Chicago does not have a WTC.

NYC and New Orleans are major port cities, so that is probably why they got big complexes. Some quick googling has shown me that there is some debate as to whether Chicago is considered landlocked or not.

― The Pig on the Stairs (hanging in a groovy purple shirt) (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

No, of course it isn't landlocked. We have shipping access to the Atlantic via the Great Lakes and the St. Lawrence river. Hell, that's why there's a city here.

― always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, but when we ship something to the "Port of Chicago", it actually gets off the boat in Seattle or Long Beach and goes to Chi-town by rail. None of my Chicago shipments have ever ACTUALLY sailed there. I wonder why that is....

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link

It's a secondary port leading to a port.

― The Pig on the Stairs (hanging in a groovy purple shirt) (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, commercial shipping on the Great Lakes is almost nonexistent now. But when this was a big steel town, ships came in with raw materials, steel mills made steel, and then it went out by rail. Now everything travels by rail or truck.

― always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

We have a big lake that leads to a canal that leads to a port, but we're pretty landlocked, but without having to feel like we're landlocked. Lake Michigan lets us pretend we're not.

― The Pig on the Stairs (hanging in a groovy purple shirt) (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I suppose we're technically landlocked, the same way that "coastline" technically only refers to the place where land meets ocean. Lakes don't count. So if you're ever playing Who Wants to Be A Millionaire and the question is, "What state has the longest coastline?" the answer is not Michigan.

― always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

i'll go with alaska. what do i win regis?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link

There is a WTC in Portland, for whatever it's worth.

Uh, it's Alaska, isn't it? xpost

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

It's Alaska by a whole, whole lot.

http://www.michigan.gov/som/0,1607,7-192-29938_30243-103397--,00.html

― always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Portland is a port city. PORTland! How could one ever have decuded that?

― The Pig on the Stairs (hanging in a groovy purple shirt) (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes M!ch!gan!

(advertising campaign created by non-michigan-based advertising firm)

― The Pig on the Stairs (hanging in a groovy purple shirt) (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

there's a wtc in boston as well. and i don't know about "commercial shipping on the Great Lakes is almost nonexistent now." i read a book that dealt in part with barge traffic on the mississippi and there was mention to how these enormous barges are dwafed by the cargo ships that sail on the great lakes. they are the largest ships in the world. they can be built much larger than sea-faring ships because of the smaller waves they encounter on the lakes. these ships are so big they can not leave the lakes as they are bigger than the locks on the st. lawrence seaway.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes M!ch!gan!

(advertising campaign created by non-michigan-based advertising firm)

Say Ya To Da U.P., Eh?

(parody advertising campaign created by michigan-based musical comedy group)

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, I dare anyone to tell the Soo Locks that there is not very active shipping on the Great Lakes. Maybe not L. Michigan, but the Minnesota to Detroit/Cleveland and beyond taconite ships are very much still running. And they are biiiiiiiiiiig.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Oops. What otto said, too.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah but Portland is named after the town in Maine. So there's no guarantee. But it's not on the coast, it's on a river. (Or two.)

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh I'm nerding out over this now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_freighter

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I just found out that Bengal housecats exist.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

i seem to recall that they flipped a coin or something to determine whether to name the settlement portland or salem after the hometowns of the two groups of settlers who went west. or maybe it was portland and boston. or maybe i'm imagining the whole thing.

but it is a two hour drive from portland to the oregon coast. it's a nice drive though, old pine forests, some farm land, gorgeous scenery. love that drive.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Working at a recreational boating magazine ruined my brain. I have been told that commercial shipping was a tiny industry compared to what it once was (which may still be true). But I was told this by my boss, whose real point was that recreational boating is much more important.

― always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

All I'm saying is that Chicago does not see much shipping traffic. Indiana sees some.

If Chicago isn't landlocked, then neither is Duluth. And for that matter, IL, MI, MN, OH aren't either.

― The Pig on the Stairs (hanging in a groovy purple shirt) (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Portwaukee

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

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