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Thanks, Tracer!

What is the difference in speed between the two?

A little backstory-I currently have my Powerbook anchored to cable modem in the corner of my house, but considering long-term costs I am thinking of getting Airport (our only phone jack is in the kitchen) and switching to DSL. I just worry about everything slowing down.

.adam (nordicskilla), Monday, 10 January 2005 17:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't know adam, what is the difference in these numbers from Apple's website?

http://images.apple.com/airportexpress/images/index_speed12162002.gif

http://images.apple.com/airportexpress/images/index_speed12162002.gif

TOMBOT, Monday, 10 January 2005 17:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Jesus, this is like going to the optometrist.

.adam (nordicskilla), Monday, 10 January 2005 17:19 (nineteen years ago) link

DSL will slow you down appreciably I would think. Stick with cable and get airport express. Or better yet just get a Linksys 802.11g router and learn to play with MAC spoofing from the web GUI.

TOMBOT, Monday, 10 January 2005 17:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Maybe I wasn't clear - Cable is $60 a month, DSL is $20...so I was thinking that buying a abse station to stick in the kitchen would actually save me money in the long term. My house is a tiny bungalow so being wireless for the sake of it isn't that important to me.

.adam (nordicskilla), Monday, 10 January 2005 17:24 (nineteen years ago) link

charlie have you also run spybot? just AVG won't do the trick, that's just for virii, spybot is for spyware. D/L spybot, (http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html), do the first run-through (being sure to download any updates, it'll guide you through it the first time) THEN DISCONNECT YOUR COMPUTER FROM THE INTERNET, reboot, and run both AVG and Spybot again.

You might also find this useful: http://scribbling.net/how-to-fix-moms-computer

teeny (teeny), Monday, 10 January 2005 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Ah aha, now I understand better.
Well with DSL it seems unlikely you'd need 802.11g 54Mbps.
You could probably get by just fine with an 802.11b router, which Ally has in her place and I find to be plenty quick actually.

try HERE maybe you can find out what kind of speed difference to expect for the privilege of saving a paltry $40 a month

TOMBOT, Monday, 10 January 2005 17:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Dude, do you know how many burritos that buys?

.adam (nordicskilla), Monday, 10 January 2005 17:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm talking about the ones with the gourmet tortillas, too.

.adam (nordicskilla), Monday, 10 January 2005 17:35 (nineteen years ago) link

all non-Chipotle burritos have been banned in Washington DC
you can make them at home, but like if you want to take one to work to eat for lunch you have to tell people it's a "wrap."

TOMBOT, Monday, 10 January 2005 17:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I upgraded from b to g and it's an improvement but not a huge one for the way I use the internet; the b equipment is cheaper.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 10 January 2005 17:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Ooh Tom it's the same speed? Then why in the world would anyone get Extreme? Just to use a network printer??

I've actually got a Linksys that I'm about to hook up in a week or two, to a home network of two (2) macs. Do I actually need to mess about with MAC spoofing? I actually have zero idea abbout setting it up, all I know is that I can point my browser to the router's address and there's some web-based admin form.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 10 January 2005 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link

My boring question: telnet or some equivalent, how do you do it from a Mac?

Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 13 January 2005 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link

open up terminal.app (/Applications/utilities)

type: telnet hostname/IP

Ed (dali), Thursday, 13 January 2005 14:13 (nineteen years ago) link

On a Mac? That looks suspiciously like instructions for the PC.

Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 13 January 2005 14:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Tracer: I'll walk you through it, you have to mess about with it if you don't want to call TimeWarner and tell them you purchased your own router and have them lay into you about how they would prefer it if you rented their router and had their technician come set it up blah blah blah blah blah blah blah that will be $300 please.

Ken L: yeah but you can also just go to your web broswer and type in telnet://your.address.here and it'll work too, launch the program for you if you don't want to remember to find terminal.

Allyzay Needs Legs More (allyzay), Thursday, 13 January 2005 18:20 (nineteen years ago) link

OH JESUS Tracer, a warning in advance: I'd recommend the Linksys router, it's fast and it's cheap, a lot cheaper than a fucking airport that's for sure, but they do NOT tell you this on their website (and there's virtually no instructions in the box besides the basic "how you set up the first time" pictorial):

A) If you are doing the MAC cloning you have to have your computer physically linked to the router, do not do it over wireless.

B) If you are updating the software for the hardware you also cannot do this over wireless.

C) You cannot do B anyway using a Mac.

Not paying attention to these three steps will result in your router being completely fried. The upshot is that they send you a replacement immediately, for free, because their website DOES NOT TELL YOU THAT YOU CANNOT UPDATE SOFTWARE USING A MAC.

Allyzay Needs Legs More (allyzay), Thursday, 13 January 2005 18:24 (nineteen years ago) link

ken, that is indeed the instructions for a mac

Ed (dali), Thursday, 13 January 2005 20:22 (nineteen years ago) link

OK, I'll try when I get home, thanks Ed and Ally.

Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 13 January 2005 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Also other fun details about linksys equipment, if you are using their router AND their cable modem, do not assume that each of them will work with the other's AC adapter, just because they look the same and all that. That will also fry the router, and they will nto send you a replacement.

TOMBOT, Thursday, 13 January 2005 20:50 (nineteen years ago) link

how important is this "I386" folder on my computer? I need more hard drive space to download porn adobe crap. I don't know jack about windows/PCs.

bnw (bnw), Thursday, 13 January 2005 21:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I think you should just delete anything with a funny name and see what happens.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 13 January 2005 21:01 (nineteen years ago) link

FYI, if you do get a Linksys wireless, PLEASE change the generic "linksys" name to something else. I'm occasionally running into network collisions when I'm leeching wireless because there are competing wireless routers with the same broadcast name.

Gator Magoon (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 13 January 2005 22:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Can someone recommend a good newsreader that can combine, or (better yet pre-copile, like unison) parts of a post for OS 9?

57 7th (calstars), Friday, 14 January 2005 03:56 (nineteen years ago) link

All right, telnet is working thanks. Doesn't map some foreign language characters right but you can't have everything.

Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 14 January 2005 04:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Dude, that's why you leave it "linksys". It completely fuxors leechers who are between two people with "linksys". Which is ok unless your neighbor with "linksys" is actually close enough to you for the networks to occasionally overlap, making your computer vomit on itself.

Allyzay Needs Legs More (allyzay), Friday, 14 January 2005 04:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Another one: is it possible to run bittorrent in OS 9?

57 7th (calstars), Friday, 14 January 2005 04:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Newswatcher used to be really good for Mac OS 9. There was YA-Newswatcher (Yet Another) and NA-Newswatcher (Not Another) I have no idea if they are still developed as I gave up on Mac's around OS 9.1 in 1998 or 99. Newswatcher is one of the only programs I actually miss.

svend (svend), Friday, 14 January 2005 04:19 (nineteen years ago) link

thanks svend, newswatcher does the trick.

57 7th (calstars), Friday, 14 January 2005 05:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Dude, that's why you leave it "linksys". It completely fuxors leechers who are between two people with "linksys".

Or you could just use encryption and/or limit access to known MAC addresses like everyone else does.

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 14 January 2005 12:07 (nineteen years ago) link

BMW,

The I386 folder most likely, because it's not guaranteed; it's just a name, but almost certainly contains the installation files for Windows. This is not the same as the windows installation itself, which will be in c:\windows\ or c:\winnt most likely. I take it you bought your PC with Windows pre-installed by a vendor such as Dell?

What it does is if you want to install some new feature of Windows that are not installed by default, it can install it from the I386 directory rather than from the Windows CD. Assuming you have a Windows CD (and a CD player), then that will suffice and you don't really need the I386 directory.

Alternatively, if you're worried about it, you could try compressing the I386 directory (right click, properties, advanced, compress files...)

KeithW (kmw), Friday, 14 January 2005 12:33 (nineteen years ago) link

okay,

I got a plotter, today, for free.

problem is, I think, the plotter's driver doesn't work with anything beyond windows 98 and I have XP.

is there a way of running a copy of 98 from inside XP?? or something??

what else could I do?

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 23:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Have you tried the Win98 driver?

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh and you can't run Win98 within WinXP, Microsoft isn't sophisticated enough for that

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link

the 98 driver doesn't work, apparently.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I was told it wouldn't work, by the person I got the plotter from.

I looked online (a bit) and was told it wouldn't work.

I think I may have found a driver that will work.

how boring!!

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I think you will have trouble with this. Best of luck, but everything has changed since then. 98 and XP share nothing other than the win32 API, which is not what a driver's going to use; XP is basically Windows NT and 98 is basically DOS. The term "windows" is about all there is in common, and if no-one's written an XP driver, you're stuffed.

If you can find a driver for say NT4, then there's a possibility, but even at that it's probably likely to fail.

Have fun anyway.

A "plotter" you say! Do they still exist! You'll be coming home with a drum printer and a wireless next.

KeithW (kmw), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 23:47 (nineteen years ago) link

haha, plotters are still v. important.

I think I have found an NT-based driver that, apparently, "works very well with XP".

since I dropped & broke my external hard drive, on sunday, I have no copy of autoCAD to give it a whirl with, though!!


ta!

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 00:02 (nineteen years ago) link

You mean plotter as in massive-printer-that-takes-A0-size-sheets, yeah? Not them robot-pens-drawing-on-paper things?

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 00:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Why not get a Turtle... Could be space saving.

KeithW (kmw), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 00:10 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
can someone who has installed Nicotine 1.0.8 translate their install instructions to english for me? It seems to want me to do something totally different than I did last time I installed, but I can't figure out what. But the old version seems to have stopped working.

Either that or everyone on slsk has become a total asshole and stopped sharing, and no one is interested in my files either. The first option seems totally sensible to me, knowing people, but the second seems strange especially considering the new albums I just added.

Allyzay Subservient 50s-Type (allyzay), Monday, 28 March 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I just switched clients again:

http://chris.schleifer.net/ssX/

so much better than nicotine, or the win client

-- fe zaffe (fezaff...) (webmail), March 28th, 2005 10:31 AM. (fezaffe) (link)

Seems like I'm getting better search results than ever. Maybe it's just time to get off Nicotine.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 28 March 2005 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link

ssX is very good, it's come on leaps and bounds in it's last couple of builds, it was a complete resource hog and almost unusable relatively recently.

Ed (dali), Monday, 28 March 2005 17:50 (nineteen years ago) link

hrm that's not helping. Let me explain better?

Basically in either program (I dl'd ssX) I'm getting search results (slowly) but they're all greyed out and can't download. Now, I actually pay the $5 a month for slsk so this shouldn't be happening; I haven't used slsk in a while though, not heavily at least. But previously, like say 3 months ago when I last used it for several searches, virtually everything showed up as dl-able to me. Did they change the policy, like you don't skip the queue anymore? Am I doing something wrong, like should I be changing my settings, upping the speed limits or something?

OTOH like I said no one is dl'ing off of me either which is really unusual and is leading me to believe the problem is on my end.

The FAQ says something about ports needing to be opened--now I haven't changed anything with my hardware or software that I am aware of (which is why a port problem seems weird to me--it worked three months ago just fine) and have no idea how to check and see if these ports are open??

Allyzay Subservient 50s-Type (allyzay), Monday, 28 March 2005 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link

System Preferences -> Sharing is how you check which ports you have open and set ones to be open if they're not.

the Network Utility under Apps -> Utilities can also help you figure out which connections on what ports are working and what else is going on.

TOMBOT, Monday, 28 March 2005 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link

my firewall is off on my computer

also i don't see the ports they're talking about in apple's preset list of ports?

what about the ports on the router?

Allyzay Subservient 50s-Type (allyzay), Monday, 28 March 2005 19:57 (nineteen years ago) link

wait I found the ports in question but like I said my firewall is off so shouldn't they be open automatically?

Allyzay Subservient 50s-Type (allyzay), Monday, 28 March 2005 20:03 (nineteen years ago) link

the router should be wide open. The roadrunner modem may not be for some ports. you can add your own ports to the list they have there, if you start the firewall.

they should be open automatically but it was my impression the FW was on by default on OS X, most of the time. Dunno.

TOMBOT, Monday, 28 March 2005 20:07 (nineteen years ago) link

would anyone be willing to help me with this: (and forgive if i don't describe this quite right)

recently installed mandrake 10.1 and up til today it was playing nicely with my network. today, however (after re-booting into windows for a while) i seem to be having problems with host name resolution (?) - i can successfully ping the other comps IP addy's but cannot ping their names. and smb4k will not see the computers so that i can browse their shares. i don't so far know of any other way to browse the other computers.

any ideas?

ps i also have wanted to ask here for help on getting a ssk client and dc client running. where i'm stalled out there is: things wanted me to install glibmm.. ok so that would not go without libsigc++. I successfully installed this, but still when i try to configure the glibmm it says that it cannot find the libsigc++ and that i should try to 'add the directory containing `sigc++-2.0.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'sigc++-2.0' found'

so i don't know how to do that. currently the sicg++-2.0.pc file is in /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig

also i don't really understand what's the best way to go about adding packages to the OS... what is the best procedure in terms of where to download the files to, where to unzip them, where to do the configure and install stuff, etc.

ronny longjohns (ronny longjohns), Sunday, 3 April 2005 00:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Can I re-assign IRQs in Windows XP? If so, how?

(My comp crashes frequently and I'm running out of ideas to explain why - and thinking conflicting IRQs might be at the bottom of it)

Onimo (GerryNemo), Sunday, 3 April 2005 01:09 (nineteen years ago) link


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