Sleep - "Jersulam"/"Dopesmoker" - C/D?

om is better than both though

n/a - don't look at it as 'stoner metal,' because that will lead you down a path of lots of crappy music. Just buy two or three Electric Wizard albums and be done with it. THOSE records ALL fucking SLAY

Maybe I just don't like stoner rock.

Also, does it seem like this is everywhere all the sudden, or am I just sinking deeper into stoner culture? I've heard several different people talking about it, plus its appearing on BROKEN FLOWERS OST (oh no!)

How could it appear on the OST without being the OST?

Yeah, a bunch of stoner and doom bands. The phenom that the practice and style has been everywhere all of a sudden has been everywhere all of a sudden for a few years, minimum.

The version on Broken Flowers OST is between four and five minutes long, so I assume it's an edit.

Psych doom - does it exist? or, "Why isn't there a WITCHCRAFT thread yet?"

DOOM

DOOM

Fact of the matter is, it's not particularly great. Its mythology exceeds its listenability. The story of "Jerusalem" and "Dopesmoker" is much better in the telling than in the listening and that will always be a substantial part of its appeal. The genre's "Tales of the Topographic Ocean," maybe. Hampton-Grease Band's "Music to Eat?" In any case, if you have the patience to pick and choose in stoner and doom records, there are quite a few that are preferable to anything Sleep's catalog.

In the sense of insurmountable-object, maybe. But TFTO has the advantage of actually being good.

NO WAY.

For my money, though, I still say Electric Wizard.

jumping more to the point: ***what is the best thing to listen to besides sleep to determine whether or not its worth it to hear more??****

i always enjoyed listening to it. I have no problem with the length. I'm kinda lazy, so I'm not big on getting up anyway. i was never fanatical enough to buy the later dopesmoker version though. i never cared for the first sleep album. that one bored me, not as good as st. vitus, etc. but, yeah, jerusalem is funny and cool and it is nice and heavy. great riffs. what's not to like? the latest high on fire, i think, is the best thing the dude has ever done. i didn't really like either of the other high on fire albums i had. just sold the first one on ebay with the 45 in it where they cover celtic frost. got all of 5 bucks for it. of course, the new HOF "sounds" great and the first two sounded horrible, so that might have something to do with it.

Speaking of Grief, buyabiznatch would probably like that band. Go for any of the albums on Pessimiser or Theologian, Torso probably first followed by And Man Shall Become the Hunted. That's slowed down drawn out riffing, recorded heavy with a vocalist who sounds like he has a torn throat. It's pretty monolithic and would have a high probability of appealing to fans of Dopesmoker. I listen to Grief way more often than Sleep.

Cheesy's no obstacle to liking lots of forms of metal, or just about any other genre. I find very little entertainment that's actually
cheese free. It's one of the fundamentals, like hydrogen on the periodic table.

I'm a fan of Trouble but my favorite albums are their last two -- Manic Frustration and Plastic Green Head. Right now, PGH is probably my fave. Their version of "The Porpoise Song" kills for incinerating wah'd guitar solo. Heavy psyche influence and Beatles/Monkees/Donovan love in late period Trouble.

Nebula was a highly regarded stoner rock band for awhile. Never was able to capitalize. Spirit Caravan catalog is good early (Jug Fulla Sun), falls apart toward the end. The Obsessed, another earlier Wino band was virtually identical. Hidden Hand is up and down. Did an album with Victor Griffin in Place of Skulls. Man, he does a lot of stuff.

i already bought jerusalem so i ain't picking up dopesmoker unless'n i see it for cheap. but jerusalem's ok, i guess. holy mountain is way better - though i think the genius doesn't really kick in until the second half of the album - as is OM.

and as much as saying things are overrated is overrated, i tend to agree with roger about saint vitus these days. reagers period is best, though the wino era has some killer tunes here and there it's really in essence a compromise between the best of vitus and the best of the obsessed which makes a kind of boring muddle at times.

I would rather heat my liver with drinking.

holy mountain is fucking awesome

fyfuckingi

So, anyone going to ATP: The Fans Strike Back, May 8-10 2009, where the reformed Sleep are playing Holy Mountain and selections from Dopesmoker & more...?

oh shi

I agree with whomever said Om is better above.

Wrong

selections from dopesmoker?

I almost bought St. Vitus last night but was scared away by worries it would sound thin with no bottom end. Do they?

uh... no? i mean, which album?

if it's the s/t it's pretty thick guitar-wise

both sonically and in technique

i feel assured that there are dudes out there that shall never run out of riffs

uh... no? i mean, which album?

― like burning a swan (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, November 10, 2008 3:19 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

I was looking at the live album (only one the store had) and thinking of the thrash I'm accustomed to that has nothin down there.

haven't heard that one, actually.

the best thing sleep ever did was accompany those white trash kids prowling around their trailer park on their dirt bikes. their albums were tedious, meandering crap that were basically black sabbath remix records

CHALLOPSIN

Drop out of life with the bong in hand
Follow the smoke toward the Challopsian Land
Proceeds the Challopsian, Pantheism F. Mohair

mentalist
x-posts

that doesn't make sense, HOOS. the weed is making him challops?

RMXRMXRMXRMXRMXRMX

its just like

omg did you know early Scott Storch beats sounds just like Dr. Dre

why yes in fact that is exactly why i listen to and enjoy them but thank you for opening my eyes and all doggie

I'm tired of Sabbath songs but want more Sabbath sounds hence Sabbath The Genre aka stoner metal you know?

"Wrong"

I haven't heard Holy Mountain, but Dopesmoker/Jerusalem doesn't quite do it for me. I think Conference of Birds is my favorite thing from the whole Sleep/High on Fire/Om axis.

I'm tired of Sabbath songs but want more Sabbath sounds hence Sabbath The Genre aka stoner metal you know?

I guess, but these guys are a low-rent knockoff. It's not like it is with Beatles, how they paved the way for a much better and much more transcendent band with better music, lyrics, and singing quality-- Oasis.

hahaha

what's so funny

oh man you were serious huh

man this troll can roll

troll?? ME? B-b-but I've contributed so much to the intellectual discourse on this board!

res will you pave the way for a much better and much more transcendent troll with better challops, contrarianism, and zinging quality--?

save your accolades for someone more deserving than this old, washed-up troll. i just hope that in my death, my decomposing flesh will fertilize the soil for the growth of a troll more worthy than me.

btw, is Geir Hongro a troll? He seems to fit squarely within this narrow definition.

Sleep's entire output is great.

I was a fan of Asbestos Death and Sleep Volume I. When Holy Mountain came out, I initially felt like it was a tasteless Sabbath rip-off.

Years later, I've come to realize that Sleep does a lot of things Sabbath never did. Sure there are some very obvious riffs/nods, but it's in tribute. There are all kinds of techniques and directions employed on Holy Mountain that Sabbath never would have touched.

Having said that, I think the first High on Fire record is the best thing any of these guys has ever done.

There are all kinds of techniques and directions employed on Holy Mountain that Sabbath never would have touched.

okay, but only because that one dude was missing his fingertips.

i just hope that in my death, my decomposing flesh will fertilize the soil for the growth of a troll more worthy than me

trying to figure out a joke about dead & euronymous here

couldnt find a holy mountain thread. check out the recording of the first night of the Sleep reunion at ATP back in May.
This was AMAZING.

http://www.chunklet.com/index.cfm?section=blogs&ID=546

I actually preferred the second night, but this^^^.

"follow the smoke toward the riff-filled land"

<3 <3 al cisneros

Stoner.

surely you jest

;-)

uh, pretty psyched for Sleep show tonight

2+ hour set at ATP was like whoa.

yep, tonight was def like, dang..

I liked it when someone from ATP said on this very board that the UK ATP shows were the only ones Sleep would ever do, ever, and poured scorn on me when I suggested they might ever want to play another show, ever.

If there's one thing 2001 - 2010 taught as w/r/t reunions it's "Never say never."

Think the ATP people have been using the "Oh, it's not the original drummer *this* time" as a get out clause.

xp and if there's one thing an ilxor with his place of work in his username taught us as w/r/t "is he going to be a shill for ATP y/n?" it's "y"

(I know Jamie posts on here in earnest, I'm just sayin)

haven't heard dopesmoker in so damn long. sounding good, follow the smoke...

it's funny cuz i initially (for years!) tended to agree with those who found it it bit dull/underwhelming, relative to holy mountain. the idea was always cool, but the execution didn't do much for me. the more time i've spent with it, though, and the more familiar the procession of riff has become, the more i love it. and it's not always about the act of listening to it, exactly. sometimes it's just a nice thing to put on, a comfortable sort of din.

the more you smoked you mean?

i dont smoke btw

I could never get into Dopesmoker

How many times is this thing going to be reissued:

For the 2012 reissue, there are some very notable changes. The original studio tapes have been remastered presenting the album as the band had originally intended. The audio is clearer, louder, and at last brings a true representation of SLEEP’s hour-plus Weedian chronicle. Exclusive to this Southern Lord edition is brand new artwork by long time SLEEP artist Arik Roper, to be unveiled in the coming weeks. Additionally, this reborn version of Dopesmoker boasts an unreleased live recording of one of the band’s best all-time performances: "Holy Mountain" from San Francisco's I-Beam in 1994.

Southern Lord is overwhelmingly ecstatic to reissue one of the most important recordings in heavy metal
history. This edition ensures that this mesmerizing, incredibly complex document remains unrivaled in the annals of stoner metal.

Dopesmoker Track Listing:
1. Dopesmoker 1:03:31
2. Holy Mountain (Live @ the I-Beam SF, CA. 1994) 11:54

yeah, really. they should reissue it every 4/20. cuz they keep forgetting that they reissued it.

hey, i've got an idea. why doesn't someone just keep it in print!

cuz they keep forgetting that they reissued it.

lol

i forgot i bought it. i was flipping through my records the other day and found a copy. true story.

The audio is clearer, louder, and at last brings a true representation of SLEEP’s hour-plus Weedian chronicle.

this is the annoying part, to me. not just that it keeps getting reissued, but that every time it happens, it has to finally be the band's "true vision" or w/e. as if they could fucking see...

they can't even remember what it's called!

Holy Mountain is the one that has been done to death reissue wise. Discogs show just one proper 2xLP issue of Dopesmoker, in 2003, on Tee Pee. One of the copies is listed for ~$80.00. I'm fine with this reissue and will probably buy it.

i dont think i ever bought that on lp so i guess i'll pick this up

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you are wrong. this is literally the fifth version of this

why would anyone want to own this on vinyl?

From Wikipedia: "Four versions of the album have been released: a rare London Records promotional disc, a bootleg with cover art by Arik Roper, the Rise Above/Music Cartel Records album and a release by Tee Pee Records.[12] The Rise Above/Music Cartel release was an unauthorized edited version, released in 1999 under the title Jerusalem.[1][3] Jerusalem runs at 52 minutes and is a single composition split into six identically-named tracks.[13] The version of the album titled Dopesmoker was released on April 22, 2003 by Tee Pee Records on compact disc and vinyl with a 63-minute running time.[2][14] Cisneros spoke most positively about the 2003 Dopesmoker release, saying "I don't think the Dopesmoker thing is the exact version that we submitted, but that's the closest one that's come out of the four. If I had to pick a favorite, that would be it."[12]"

Also – it's Algerian Goalkeeper. Of course he wants it on vinyl.

if there is any album where you do not want to get up from your chair...

i bought jerusalem on cd when it came out and it always sounded fine to me. little did i know it wasn't the REAL version. and yeah vinyl kinda defeats the purpose.

So four versions have been released: one is a promo, one is a bootleg, and one is an "unauthorized" edit. The other one is out of print and came out ~10 years ago. Not really seeing the issue here. I mean there are 36 versions of My Aim Is True.

i just don't get why its out of print at all. southern lord could keep it in print. tee pee could keep it in print. the om dudes have their own label, right? the tee pee guy is one of my facebook friends. i should ask him.

i mean its the kind of thing you could just keep selling, right? eh, what do i know.

a product of slowly increasing attention from outside die-hard metal circles? dopesmoker version came along at just the right time, coincided w lots of attention directed at both high on fire and om, but seemed intended as a fans-only collector's piece.

Brand new cover art, again!

http://www.earsplitcompound.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/sn158d-e1333380276402.jpg

Ned, Ned, Ned... beat you to it on the metal thread!

Ah well. But now it can celebrated here too. If that's the right word.

I like it on this thread too.

the art is good, but the fonts and font colors are atrocious. the writing was clearly done by a different person than the image. and that person should be fired.

otm

weedians iirc

That shade of lime green makes me want to clean my sink not smoke a bowl.

Font aside, best artwork of the three released versions of this imo. Not that I will be buying it a third time...

so thats what a procession of weedians looks like

the art is good, but the fonts and font colors are atrocious. the writing was clearly done by a different person than the image. and that person should be fired.

eh, i can hang with the retro space fonts, but this cover ain't a patch on the teepee edition from a few years back

looks like taller jawas leaving uncle owen's house

eh, i can hang with the retro space fonts

no you can't. the feel of the fonts are completely inconsistent with the image, and not in a way that's clever.

http://www.earsplitcompound.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/SleepCover300dpi-RGB-e1333384944852.jpg

this works a lot better imo, from the earsplit pr blog

this is better, but the green does not work. it should either be shade of green from the robes, or shade of the brown from the sands. and the font does not encapsulate the tone of the band at all.

the contrast works for me, what can i say? i like a little bit of pop in my graphics.

2nd version is much, much better though

i think the font works, its just the color is really wrong

you have to imagine it as a foil stamp, knowing southern lord

looks like they're already committed to that logo

http://weedian.com/files/products/23054_th_94.png

Actually, that top is amazing.

i think the font works, its just the color is really wrong

See, to me, the font evokes something good-natured, friendly, and somewhat futuristic. But it should evoke something mysterious, elaborate, hallucinogenic, and vaguely threatening. This was better communicated by the font on "Sleep's Holy Mountain," though even that album's art looked somewhat amateur and probably could have been greatly improved.

it's retro-futuristic, as is the album title. Very 70s, fits the sound of the band just fine.

album title font, I should say. Smoking dope is timeless.

xp: feh, the holy mountain art is magnificent and requires no mortal "improvement":

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_vY8I5HvOvk8/SoR_vu6XCjI/AAAAAAAAIL8/NJ8gdb7STXE/s400/Sleep%2520Holy%2520Mountain.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_vY8I5HvOvk8/SoR_vu6XCjI/AAAAAAAAIL8/NJ8gdb7STXE/s400/Sleep%2520Holy%2520Mountain.jpg

^ for those too stoned to click links

love how the 'ee' the new logo looks like a pair of lidded eyes glancing thataway

half want to read it as "bloop" though

it's retro-futuristic, as is the album title. Very 70s, fits the sound of the band just fine.

otm

Yeah I like it a lot.

T-shirt also awesome.

philistines.

http://www.earsplitcompound.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/SleepCoverSpreadArt-e1333384672854.jpg

i like the foldout even more

stonarz on tattoine

chewbacca approved

otoh you gotta give these guys credit for finding new reasons to design covers for the same album

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bOj1v_BgW2s/SoMs137RC2I/AAAAAAAAAN0/02l9I4-Rksw/s1600/Sleep+-+Jerusalem.jpg
http://www.remnantsofreason.com/temp/images/reviews/Sleep_Jerusalem_cover.jpg
http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/s/sleep/album-dopesmoker.jpg

fwiw, i have no idea where that second one came from, fan made?

So it turns out it's part of a bigger painting:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/528504_10150799941128689_728803688_11693890_610822546_n.jpg

lol

o rly?

Weedian on the Edge of Time

Yeah that image badly needed an odd sailboat-shaped spacecraft. I was really worried for a moment there

the cover is a fractal that can be infinitely zoomed out

IIRC the second cover was by arik moonhawk roper

who is no doubt a fan but i think more to the point kind of a "band bro"

if roger dean is an honorary member of yes then arik roper is an honorary member of at least half the good stoner metal bands out there

sadly it looks like he's removed a ton of his illustrations from his website, it's a much fancier website now but has way less of his art and a lot less of his early hand-drawn work which appeals to me more than his new oil painting style

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lntt4140321qc95xvo1_500.jpg

i think this new cover must be by roper, too. craggy peaks, loose brush for the lines, basic look of those overgrown jawas and their weird dromedary. couldn't be anyone else.

way less of his art and a lot less of his early hand-drawn work which appeals to me more than his new oil painting style

yeah, feel the same, but he probably gets sick of people saying they liked his early stuff better. my favorite moonhawk:

http://image.musicimport.biz/sdimages/upc07/690989000421.jpg

http://image.musicimport.biz/sdimages/upc07/690989000421.jpg

I wish the second Sand Person wasn't doing the River Dance.

man, bummer to realize that Ned has me killfiled and didn't see my post four before his.

http://www.earsplitcompound.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/SleepCover300dpi-RGB-e1333384944852.jpg

best thing

man, bummer to realize that Ned has me killfiled and didn't see my post four before his.

yeah, i thought that was a bit weird myself. his is bigger though.

yes its roper

better w/out the text

thanks for the update, HOOS

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bOj1v_BgW2s/SoMs137RC2I/AAAAAAAAAN0/02l9I4-Rksw/s1600/Sleep+-+Jerusalem.jpg

i've never understood wtf this is thiough

i think it's much worse w/out the "Sleep" text (dull painting, basically), but much improved w/out the retro-computerized "DOPESMOKER"

it is a picture of a mystical guy burning HEMP and also a HEMP sweater that you could wear while smoking HEMP and following the smoke to the RIFF-FILLED land

Image loading is turned off for me so I admit I did not see the earlier post of same.

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj242/donaldparsley/newsleeplogo.png

in defense of the text on the new cover, this is pretty kick-ass on its own. sharp, simple and very strong. most graphically dynamic part of the design, imo.

Image loading is turned off for me so I admit I did not see the earlier post of same.

it was intended as sarcasm, i had posted the full version of the whole foldout just before you did.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/veracd/img025.jpg

It's like tablature only more cryptic.

I also like hearing what Matt Pike said about playing in Sleep vs High on Fire. "I count a lot more when I play Sleep."

How's the remaster? I only have the "legit" release with the burning bush/hemp sweater cover.

I've just ordered the CD + T-shirt + Poster combo. Am tempted to get a vinyl copy for the awesome artwork too.

The remaster sounds pretty fantastic on CD, it's tastefully done. Hope to hear the LP soon.

gotta say i'm not that into the reissue. it does sound a lot clearer but i think that basically just accentuates matt pike which pushes it into HoF hesher territory as opposed to the plodding doom territory the early mix sits comfortably in.

MORRIS RIFF
SPACE JAM
IOMMIS VAULT

I only have the CD with the three-headed horse drawing. How am I doing sound/mix-wise?

that list looks like a poll.

looking forward to seeing them twice this month. fuck they are so good live.

I assume you mean HoF, right

the first "dopesmoker" CD (three headed horse) is a different recording from the original "jerusalem" release. it is also louder and bassier than the original jerusalem release. i think it is not as "clear" in the mid- and high-range as the dopesmoker reissue, but like i said i prefer the original versions (both jerusalem and dopesmoker) to the new one

i think the one you have is actually my favorite jon

I assume Jamie means Sleep ... meaning he's going to ATP and Primavera, the lucky bastard. They *are* so good live...

wait Sleep has reunited?!

yeah they do from time-to-time. they played a few shows in 2010

oh sans Hakius tho, I see

Saw them two years ago at Brooklyn Masonic hall. I'm gonna invite a flaming here and say I don't like Al's sheer-rumble live sound. Call me a muso but I can see he's doing a lot of shit and I want to know what it is! Same went for the Shrinebuilder show.

Yeah, drummer from Neurosis drums on the live line-up. I saw them in, 2010 I guess, when they first started doing the live shows again. Bummed that I'm going to miss them this time. Positively titanic.

They absolutely destroyed at Roadburn last month. I'd never seen Sleep in person before, and was floored by their two-hour set.

Saw them two years ago at Brooklyn Masonic hall. I'm gonna invite a flaming here and say I don't like Al's sheer-rumble live sound. Call me a muso but I can see he's doing a lot of shit and I want to know what it is! Same went for the Shrinebuilder show.

― Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Friday, May 11, 2012 1:05 PM

sounds like the gig i went to - Shrinebuilder

Ha yeah I see Alan N and myself saying the same thing there, too.

its funny that it was still crappy even when they didn't have soundboard probs

anyone know what the hell hakius is up to these days?

i'm assuming some sort of organic farming / intentional community type of thing

re:hakius - OM - Advaitic Songs

hope this will work but fuck me what a night this must've been:

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/480237_10150873817313774_767723773_9589364_1219712293_n.jpg

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj242/donaldparsley/intosolo.png

HOT LAVA MAN

man so i have to admit i'm hearing things in "jerusalem" (vs. dopesmoker) that i never heard before

i guess that's common but this just feels really stark

yo am0n i know about the sabians but they haven't put anything out since 2003 afaict? are they still going?

hoos you got that in the right order? are you just now going back to jerusalem after hearing the dopesmoker reissue?

idk if i have it in the right order or not--i first heard and got to know 'dopesmoker' via a download of the original mix a few years back, and that's the one that i guess is still on my hard drive. i guess i'd never really listened to jeruselam, i thought i had. damn, now i'm gonna have to go get this reissued jeruselam too.

reissued dopesmoker you mean

i think they do this just to fuck with stoned people

lol

yes indeed they're doing our london atp (with Slayer and Melvins and Yob and Wolves In the Throne Room and A Storm Of Light - FUCK) and primavera barcelona. Cannot wait.

yeah they do from time-to-time. they played a few shows in 2010

played at a festival w/them in 2010 iirc & they were directly after us and opened right with a crushing Jerusalem/Dopesmoker riff section for about five min damn right I'm bragging, I got to geek out w/Pike & his son backstage afterwards

Saw them last week and it was uniformly excellent. No trouble hearing Cisneros either. Dopesmoker and Sonic Titan were the highlights.

Don't miss them if you get the chance.

yo am0n i know about the sabians but they haven't put anything out since 2003 afaict? are they still going?
― the late great, Saturday, May 12, 2012 1:35 AM

my mistake, i thought that was after he left om

your mistake INDEED

leave hakius alone!

http://img.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/leave-britney-alone-chris-crocker__width_420.jpg

http://www.gifsoup.com/view4/1800807/mugatotoddstare-o.gif

not really into this new version

i dl'ed jerusalem and i think this is now the one i prefer, the drums are a little more up front

wait you like the dopesmoker reissue more than jerusalem or the other way around

other way around

yeah me too

no way

HERETICS

BREAK THEIR BONGS
DEBUD THEM
CAST THEM OUT

nah dude jerusalem is "the o.g." if you know what i mean ;-)

i heard it first too back when it came out as my mates brother bought it and he loaned me it to tape. i also have a tape recording of an interview with the band on some cable radio metal show (solar radio it was called) with the whole thing playing in the background as the band explained what happened with London Records. And i still think Dopesmoker is better ;-)

no dude it's THE OG do you see???

what were we talking about

http://cdn.macrumors.com/vb/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

I don't need to buy the same album over and over again. I'll stick with the CD I bought 10 years ago, thx

I kinda want to buy the vinyl reissue because I do like the cover. But this is totally a CD album for me.

i also have a tape recording of an interview with the band on some cable radio metal show (solar radio it was called) with the whole thing playing in the background as the band explained what happened with London Records.

I think I know what's going to be on disc 2 of the inevitable deluxe edition...

o yeah, they replaced the unnecessary extra live track with a horrible sounding live 'holy mountain'. wonder what the thought process behind that was

probably some bong rips were involved

listening to this for the first ime

this is one of the longest albums i've ever heard *tips hat*

lol

important q: *which* album are you listening to, cause there are at least two

the new one on spotify with some jawas and camels and shit, it's a 60+ minute track and a 11+ minute track?

i don't know the lore of this.

it's ok but i dunno doesn't really do a ton for me

fair enough

i am p fond of it

though i listen to the alt mix 'jerusalem' on spotify so everyone doesn't see me listening to DOPESMOKER

Breathe deep the gathering dank:

SLEEP 2012 U.S. Tour Dates:

6/02/2012 The Ritz – Tampa, FL

6/03/2012 Neumos – Seattle, WA

6/04/2012 Neumos – Seattle, WA

6/05/2012 Fox Theater – Oakland, CA

I do love the tour logic there. "Okay, from one corner of the country to the other in a single day..."

you don't go straight that way, guh, you cut through the riff-filled land

I nod my head in acknowledgement (and then can't lift it again).

ok guess who missed out on a sleep gig in glasgow

The Dopesmoker reissue is currently on UK eMusic for .84p
I don't know if this screws them over, or if it's even a mistake, but - yeah. Good deal...

Seeing them tonight! Psyched.

\m/ I haven't been as excited about a day at a festival in ages.

So, that was special. I can't be the only person who thinks that. Equally so for Melvins and Yob as well. Just on fucking fire. Slayer put in a really good gig as well. Not 100% convinced by your man from Exodus but his guitar work on World Painted Blood was fucking ridiculously good and they played Die By The Sword.

Sleep though, sweet baby Jesus it was amazing.

Yeah, it was. Everything was buzzing. I didn't even bring any weed with me.

The room where Yob & WITTR played didn't seem to have very good sound and it was way too small for Yob, I could hardly get in. The main stage bands were all great though.

I managed to get down to the front for the second half of Yob and it was better but I think Mike's genuinely uplifting stage persona and having the crowd really behind them made it for me. It's a real breath of fresh air having a very positive doom metal band just as light relief I think. I don't feel the same way about Black Metal though.

they seemed to be ironing out some sound issues while A Storm of Light were on cos they kind of sounded like ass but I thought it was fine by the time WITTR were on certainly

I still don't know if the new one is a different master from the version on Tee Pee from 11 yrs ago.

It is. It sounds very slightly better. But it's still a 63-minute song about weed.

lol

http://weedian.com/sleep_print_and_clip_1.pdf

PROCEEDS THE WEEDIAN
DOT COM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/201079939409

You can own Al Cisneros' amp from the "Dopesmoker" sessions and tour, if you only hit their reserve.

Criminy it's already up to 4 grand...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTSsxFMdS30

gonna go cram for my ancient weedian final you wanna come with

Going to see these dudes in August!

ive been playing this lp virtually every day for the last month or so

https://soundcloud.com/adultswimsingles/the-clarity

so that's w/the Neurosis drummer?

digging it

not feeling the guitar background / vocals foreground production

has anyone else ever noticed that dopesmoker is better than all the other albums ever?

It's pretty great!

I actually just found an original copy of this at the record store I used to work at. Very mint copy for $40 is not bad I say.

drop ooouuuutttt of lyyyyyffeeee with booooonnnggg in haaaaand

my brother visited a couple weeks ago and we were pretty high and we put on "jerusalem / dopesmoker" and while it is prtty good i honestly think the first three om albums are better. the riffs are better, the drumming is better, and the stoner mysticism is better, too.

there are many folks who might say "om > sleep" is heresy but fuiud imo. om > sleep

I dunno, I think I say Om > Sleep, too. Sleep has one good album, which means Sleep has one good song. Om doesn't have any bad songs.

Do people on here not like Sleep's Holy Mountain?

Om is the worst.

I prefer Holy Mountain to Dopesmoker tbh. More fun, more of a variety of sounds, better lyrics like WITHIN THE OAKEN TOWER or RIDE THE DRAGON TOWARDS THE CRIMSON EYE.

yea i also prefer holy mountain to dopesmoker

but you can't fuck with a band whose definitive statement (imo) is called "unitive knowledge of the godhead"

i mean that track just fucking pummels and does it under 6 minutes

First song on SHM is great; after that, it's a steep decline imo.

Can't see liking Sleep and disliking Om

I like Sleep but find Om really boring.

God Dopesmoker is so fucking grand. I love that the first guitar solo doesn't show up for almost 15 minutes.

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calling the faithful in praise of dope

\m/

New album out.

https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/04/sleep-release-surprise-album-the-sciences-stream/

"Giza Butler" you say

I'm happy to say this new album does in fact sound like Sleep

pike sure can play a solo or two

proceed the weedian -- marijuanaut

This is really fucking good.

Possibly their best sounding album, although the vocals are weirdly clean.

THE PTERODACTYL FLIES AGAIN

i posted something about the new album on FB and my mom liked it in what was probably an unconditional mom like but it's crackin me up

momojuanonaut

Cisneros is credited with playing the water pipe in the liner notes. <3

fuck yeah they killed it

this was an enjoyable accompaniment to the board game we played last night

Does anyone know when this will be available in stores as a physical release?

It was supposed to arrive in stores on the day of release, or so I was told.

So is this album legit good, or good in a "it's cool that it doesn't suck," MBV 2013 kinda way?

It's good, they still got the riffs

I love the way this is recorded and mixed -- I agree it's their best-sounding album

feels like they bridged the gap between Holy MOuntain and Dopesmoker a bit. there's nothing as drawn out as the latter obv, but they haven't really returned to their Sab-worship of HM outright either.

I'm cool w/ that

it's not as good as dopesmoker but what is

tr00

I’m in on this being good. Good good not consolation good.

It was supposed to arrive in stores on the day of release, or so I was told.

― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 22 April 2018 21:13 (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's not in any stores in Germany

The new album was released here yesterday. Amazing. Tempted on first listens to call it their best. So well recorded. Listening to Al Cisneros' bass is such a joy.

I've just returned from a gig, still buzzing! Life altering

Ha! I saw them last night. Was perfect

I just love hearing Pike play doom again, like he's digging around in the guts of the universe to tear out those chords

Marihuanaut's Theme is killer

And its lyrics are hilarious, but somehow just right

Where to start with the new stuff?

the first track on the new album?

well, 2nd. the first track is an all-too-typical-for-the-genre pointless intro

True! Still. Just give the new album a listen.

What’s diSalvo’s take?

So, gonna finally see these dudes. They're doing a three night stand at the end of the year here in SF; going to the first night as it's 1) cheaper and 2) Grayceon's the opener, and I seem to remember liking a few things by them.

where is this happening

Great American

Amazing gig.

this looks tempting

I hate New Year's celebrations as a general rule but this seems like an actually fun thing to do, more fun than staying home anyway

Have never seen Sleep. Saw Om at some point (supporting Sunn O))) [how many brackets?]), who were magnificent. Hopefully, Sleep will tour the UK again at some point.

“Jersulam”

xpost Yeah really enjoyed Om when I finally saw them about a decade back. Never have seen High on Fire. But at least there's this!

Have seen both Om (twice - including the show Ned was at iirc) and High On Fire - the former more hypnotic and the latter more pummeling/shredding but both were good. Sleep is obviously somewhere in the middle

(altho I have never seen Sleep tbc)

You'll love it. They started with Marihuanaut's Theme and bludgeoned us into a state of bliss.

are there any other 2018 shows? looks like they toured earlier in the year

Yeah looks like they're doing a December US tour in general:

https://www.facebook.com/pg/officialsleep/events/

$330 APIECE?!

wtf

too rich for my blood

Eh? I paid $50 for mine, you sure you weren't looking at the three day pass?

sigh yeah a tour of the south :(

this says $330 https://greatamericanmusichall.secureboxoffice.com/E/e-2850804/v-2092

that's for 4 tickets?

oh wait nm

yeah but they're all $330 each! fucking ticket sites are such a scam. I should've drilled down my search results more and just gone here, where they are in fact $50: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/sleep-saturday-gamh-w-grayceon-tickets-50364070290#tickets

heyo I have two tickets to see SLEEP at the Great American tonight…. But I am sick ☹
On the off-chance that anyone is in town tonight and wants to see this show (which is sold out), or knows anyone who wants to see this show, plz let me know and I will happily sell my tix! webmail me. Tix were $60 apiece.

guesses on price?

https://thirdmanstore.com/tmr-vault-platinum-subscription-new#

way more than the $20 ticket price for the actual show.

It says $60 right there at the top