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it sucks right?

one time i had this bartender, i gave her a 5 (the drink was 5) and i didn't wanna break my 20 so i was gonna tip her next round

she goes, "thanks - thanks a lot. for tipping me." like all sour and walks away. i was gonna slap her i swear. instead i gave her some lip.

no but honestly. drinks cost what like half the bottle would cost, and i'm supposed to give them MORE? it's not my job to subsidize theirs. and meals - 20 bucks for dinner and i'm supposed to lay down 4 dollars on top of it? that BLOWS

Surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 20 January 2007 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

again?

Storefront Church (688), Saturday, 20 January 2007 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

If you were going to have another round and break the 20 anyway, you should have done it on round 1 so you could get off on the good foot with the bartender. You fucked up. I'm not even going to get into your last paragraph -- best for all concerned that you don't ever leave the house.

do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 20 January 2007 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

shutup ; ) prices are ridiculous and you're considered a bastard for leaving less than 20 percent. bullshit.

Surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 20 January 2007 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Phew, I'm glad we don't have to tip barstaff here.

chap (chap), Saturday, 20 January 2007 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

5 shots for 10 dollars last night. i tipped for that.

Surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 20 January 2007 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

how much to tip delivery guy

cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 20 January 2007 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I like countries where when they tell you how much something costs, that's how much it costs.

The Real Dirty Vicar (dirtyvicar), Saturday, 20 January 2007 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

but THEN i went back to the same bar and the same bartender gave me the on the house 4th drink on my like 3rd, which was really nice. that was like months later.

Surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 20 January 2007 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

This may have been covered on one of those older threads but what's a normal tip for a hairdresser?

Sundar (sundar), Saturday, 20 January 2007 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

In Australia you don't even have to tip waiters! Of course, I only found this out when I'd been there for a couple of weeks tipping like a mug.

chap (chap), Saturday, 20 January 2007 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i know! right?! ugh and the delivery guy is its own drama. it's like, should i give him 3? i just feel like, isn't this your job? which means you're like, paid to do it?

i mean, i don't get tipped every time i help someone with their theater tickets at work, and i smile like hell!

Surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 20 January 2007 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link

oh my god my boyfriend will give his hairdresser like 8-10 bucks if he's in a really good mood. i stick to the 5, but that's only because my um hairdresser is awesome and really reasonably priced

haha. i'm sure i'd just WANt to tip the australian waiter

Surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 20 January 2007 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link

i just find the whole culture of tipping bizarre. it's like what, there are certain jobs that because of how crappy they are, we have to pay taxes on them? well that stinks. i mean i'm not partying at work all day long and i don't get paid all that much either. nobody has to subsidize me, except for my employer.

Surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 20 January 2007 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

It is the way that it is - do you think that ANYONE of any appreciable level of competence would be a server or bartender if all they were making was minimum wage? I sure as fuck wouldn't.

As it is, you should tip if you feel the level of service was good. If not, fuck it. Seriously. Its one of the reasons that I try so hard to be a good bartender is that, by and large, if I put in the effort, people will pay me more.

If you completely disagree with tipping, however, you've never worked in the service industry in the US. Period. The feeling of earning a good tip is pretty damn satisfying.

B.L.A.M. (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Saturday, 20 January 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

My secret technique for not tipping bartenders and getting good service.
Tipping again, non food

to link but two of ten thousand ILX threads on tipping

vita susicivus (blueski), Saturday, 20 January 2007 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Obvious that surmounter didn't read any other threads or s/he would know that the minimum wage doesn't apply to some tipped employees.

there are certain jobs that because of how crappy they are, we have to pay taxes on them?

You think of tips as taxes?

do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 20 January 2007 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

but why is it the public's responsibility to correct the system of minimum wage?

i think of tips as a collective effort to improve the quality of life of service workers. they don't get paid enough, so the money has to come from somewhere else. MY POCKET. when all i wanna do is enjoy a few drinks after a long week without breaking the bank.

Surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 20 January 2007 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

here's a tip for your life. if you can't afford to go to bars and "enjoy a few drinks after a long week" -- then don't go. i suggest you start enjoying some colt 45's. cheap motherfucker.

critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Saturday, 20 January 2007 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

i think of tips as a collective effort to improve the quality of life of service workers. they don't get paid enough, so the money has to come from somewhere else. MY POCKET.

Exactly. Wishing and complaining isn't going to change it.

I still want to know why you described tips as taxes. Are you a freeper?

do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 20 January 2007 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

What about ordering bottles of beer vs a mixed drink?
It seems to wrong to order a bottle of beer, watch him/her pop the cap off and hand it to you within 3 seconds, and then give them the same tip that you'd give them if they'd done something more complicated. But then I think about the dirty look I'd receive for a smaller tip, and put a dollar or two down.

What's the protocol?

Zachary Scott (Zach S), Saturday, 20 January 2007 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

zach s, start a tab. you don't have to tip for every drink. when you pay your tab, just do an appropriate tip for the whole bill.

critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Saturday, 20 January 2007 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

If you don't like tipping, don't drink in bars. Period.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Saturday, 20 January 2007 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

brits, we get it, yr cheap bastards. it's kool.

M@tt He1g3s0n: oh u mad cuz im stylin on u (Matt Helgeson), Saturday, 20 January 2007 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Where are the Brits on this thread?

jimn (jimnaseum), Saturday, 20 January 2007 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

EUROPEANS GO HOME

milo z (mlp), Saturday, 20 January 2007 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

yawn

vita susicivus (blueski), Saturday, 20 January 2007 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link

fucking brits are the cheapest with their servings of alcohol too.

cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 20 January 2007 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link

yummy

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 20 January 2007 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

when all i wanna do is enjoy a few drinks after a long week without breaking the bank.

-- Surmounter (rra12...) (webmail), January 20th, 2007. (rra123)

just want to make sure the utter absurdity of this statement isn't lost. a few drinks after one week would call for a tip of around 3 bucks as minimally appropriate. that's all the dude would have to spend. 3 bucks a week. and he's complaining that this 3 bucks will "break the bank." seriously, man, examine what's going on with your life that lead to these circumstances. if 3 dollars is too much for you to afford, and you're still spending your money in bars, you need a therapist.

critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Saturday, 20 January 2007 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't know why the world hates americans

Frogm@n Henry (Frogm@n Henry), Saturday, 20 January 2007 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link

They don't even have healthcare! I'm from a rich western country, so I make sure to tip when I'm there [/ducks]

stet (stet), Saturday, 20 January 2007 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Isn't a dollar like 50p? I think my "Brit" ass can afford that.

jimn (jimnaseum), Saturday, 20 January 2007 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm an ex-waitress and a lavish tipper. It's only a little bit of money for the customer, but if they all do it, it adds up to an okay living for the waiter. Which they deserve—I've worked a lot of jobs and restaurant work was the highest-stress of all. Even if the customers are nice, the hustle is unbelievable.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Saturday, 20 January 2007 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

There is some crazy plan here in Ireland to reduce the wages of bar staff in the expectation that they will make it all back in tips, like in America. But this is not America, and people in pubs do not tip.

The Real Dirty Vicar (dirtyvicar), Saturday, 20 January 2007 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

$5 a beer doesn't make it any cheaper in the US than in the UK
and a pint's a pint
but presumably cutty's complaint is based on spirits not being poured liberally by hand (tho they are in my local bar :D in fact why i'm not there right now i have no idea)

vita susicivus (blueski), Saturday, 20 January 2007 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, the spirits thing is some crazy bullshit. The Spanish are good with spirits, you get four or five times the amount you get in the UK for the same price.

jimn (jimnaseum), Saturday, 20 January 2007 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

i guess it's really the price of the drinks. bars are so dumb sometimes - it's like dim lighting, overpriced drinks and people trying to be sexy

i think the tipping, for me, is the straw that breaks the camel's back

it's like jesus, i have to pay 5 dollars for a 99 cent beer and then a dollar on top of it to kiss the bartender's ass who's trying too hard to be cool serving me my drink.

i like the tab actually. a lot.

Surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 20 January 2007 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

or rather the idea of the tab - i'm not in the practice of running them. maybe i'll become one of those people that opens tabs a lot. i have a friend like that. she's always handing bartenders her card.

Surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 20 January 2007 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

he Spanish are good with spirits, you get four or five times the amount you get in the UK for the same price.
I paid £7 for a gin and tonic in Stockholm last week, which had 10ml of gin in (compared to 35ml here).

stet (stet), Saturday, 20 January 2007 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link

the spanish are quite generous

cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 20 January 2007 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

The Spanish serve drinks "Ewing" style, as I learnt to my cost! Anyway because I am an utter OLD MAN I kept drinking a lovely brown beer - of course I've completely forgotten the name.

Sorry! I'm a Brit, oi don't belong 'ere m'lud. (I went to Yo Sushi today and didn't tip)

Bhumibol Adulyadej (Lucretia My Reflection), Saturday, 20 January 2007 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link

it's like jesus, i have to pay 5 dollars for a 99 cent beer and then a dollar on top of it to kiss the bartender's ass who's trying too hard to be cool serving me my drink.

that's why i don't drink beer in bars (the price of the beer, not the dollar tip). i know it's silly because it's about the location and not the beer itself, but i'd rather at least order a drink with more ingredients than i have in the fridge at home.

Maria (Maria), Saturday, 20 January 2007 20:23 (seventeen years ago) link

You drinkers on a budget—why are you out at a bar to begin with? If you're that broke you should buy your beer by the case and take it home to your miserable basement apartment.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Saturday, 20 January 2007 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link

hahaha! budgets aren't miserable, they're real.

surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 20 January 2007 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, then buy a case and go home. Don't take up a barstool, pay inflated prices and then stiff the bartender!

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Saturday, 20 January 2007 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

i never stiff. i just complain about not stiffing!

surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 20 January 2007 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Well okay then. I'll spare your life.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Saturday, 20 January 2007 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

You didn't stiff the bartender in the original post?

do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 20 January 2007 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

A wise career move

Exit, pursued by a beer (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 17:09 (nine months ago) link

I am not sure whether my sister hurled pennies at stingy customers in retreat (all signs point to yes) but she upbraided bad customers in the knowledge that her job was totally safe. The owners hated people like that and knew she was an excellent server. This was a neighbourhood place where regulars tipped nearer 25 per cent, with the occasional huge tip from someone affiliated with the Minnesota Vikings.

steely flan (suzy), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 18:58 (nine months ago) link

nine months pass...

i accept this post

mookieproof, Monday, 29 April 2024 03:03 (two weeks ago) link

Just had a couple of weeks of tipping fun in the states. Had no idea what I was doing so just selected 20% as the option on everything everywhere, probably meant I was over tipping some places and under tipping elsewhere?

One thing I found funny was that we were always asked to tip places like a coffee shop where not only where you were expected to collect your order you were also expected to “bus” it away too. I don‘t mind doing that of course – I help out being in serving jobs as much as I can, but it did make me wonder what I was tipping for, especially as the coffee was usually even more expensive than in the UK as it was… I hope the people behind the counter got all the money, but I guess who knows?

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 29 April 2024 10:05 (two weeks ago) link

* I help out people working in serving jobs…

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 29 April 2024 10:06 (two weeks ago) link

You were tippng entirely because with all the Square/etc. POSes enable it either by default or with no effort so shop owners leave it and figure it's one more way they can pay their employees less.

Before my dad died I started leaving the tip line on for his Square construction invoices just to see if anyone ever bit. (no)

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 29 April 2024 10:18 (two weeks ago) link

OK, so is the usual custom not to leave a tip in a coffee shop?

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 29 April 2024 10:28 (two weeks ago) link

I would (in America) normally leave my small change in the tip jar, but cashless transactions obviously don’t allow for that. I have zero confidence in tips collected via cashless payment actually getting to the servers on that day. In the UK, people tend not to tip baristas but regulars might give them something at the holidays or donate to a leaving gift. The customers at a cafe where I normally go had a whip-round to replace a barista’s bike when it was stolen from right outside the shop!

steely flan (suzy), Monday, 29 April 2024 10:52 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah, there’d be a tip jar for change but not a full on 20% situation. I wouldn’t say ‘not a custom’ exactly, but a tip jar feels a lot less obligatory than a screen where you have to hit 0%.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 29 April 2024 11:02 (two weeks ago) link

really varies from person to person. I used to leave a dollar in the jar if the counter person was unusually friendly or helpful; now with a POS I'm actually more likely to tip, because of the convenience, but yes less likely it goes directly to the employees. but you'll find Americans that make it a matter of principle not to tip at any eatery/drinkery unless you're getting full service

Vinnie, Monday, 29 April 2024 12:06 (two weeks ago) link

For a single coffee I leave a dollar, just like tipping at a bar.

Kim Kimberly, Monday, 29 April 2024 15:43 (two weeks ago) link

OK, it usually worked out around that much per coffee. Glad to know I didn’t offend your quirky local custom, and also was not a total mug :)

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 29 April 2024 18:10 (two weeks ago) link

I am the same as Kim Kimberly— single coffee gets a buck, same with a beer at a bar. If i order something more complicated at either, price shoots up.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 29 April 2024 22:32 (two weeks ago) link

or, tip amount shoots up

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 29 April 2024 22:32 (two weeks ago) link

Agreed on a buck tip for a beer or coffee

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 29 April 2024 23:26 (two weeks ago) link

Definintely overtipped on the beers then!

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 11:58 (one week ago) link

Tbh it does sort of depend on the situation. I will often tip more than a buck for a beer if I am being served at a table on the sidewalk, for example. I go for 20 percent or close to it then. But if I am inside a bar and not receiving table service? One buck.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 15:20 (one week ago) link

Totally. I recognise that my dollar tips don't have the same value as 20 years ago and will easily leave more depending on the situation.

Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 15:29 (one week ago) link

Lately I'll sometimes leave a $2 tip on a $4 coffee just b/c like whatever man

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 16:51 (one week ago) link

who cares

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 16:51 (one week ago) link

there’s really no such thing as overtipping

brimstead, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 19:01 (one week ago) link

otm

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 19:01 (one week ago) link

otm!

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 19:02 (one week ago) link

Not OTM in the slightest

I believe food service workers deserve a living wage and I will tip generously in support of that, but not if you pull racist bullshit on me.

Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 21:53 (one week ago) link

ok I meant idiots being like “did I tip too much for my shoeshine” or whatever the fuck

brimstead, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 22:06 (one week ago) link

Not OTM in the slightest

I believe food service workers deserve a living wage and I will tip generously in support of that, but not if you pull racist bullshit on me.


The lowest tip I ever left was at a diner in Elyria, Ohio. Had gone there a few times, it was typical greasy fare. This time went with three friends, one of whom is Mexican (with dark skin) and one of whom is Black. Our food took forever, and then my one friend’s patty melt was just raw beef and uncooked onions and the other’s tuna salad was clearly chicken salad. we raised it with them, they said sorry you don’t like it, then my other friend (the other white guy at the table) paid and i left a single penny for a tip.

There was a Denny’s across the street that got a lot more business from local college kids starting that night.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 01:24 (one week ago) link

I don't eat in restaurants anymore but I still tip when picking up to-go orders. Less than 20%, though; my order is usually about $30 and I drop $5 in the jar. The other day I added a drink to the order when I arrived, so I tipped $8 on a $32 bill.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 01:32 (one week ago) link

at the diner down the block i'll get coffee and eggs/toast/whatever and it'll come to like $10.75, i'll usually leave a $5 tip bc I just cant fathom leaving less than that for a meal that was brought to my table by a server, coffee refills, etc. then i'll always get fraud alert emails from my credit card company asking "DID YOU LEAVE A 45% TIP AT JOE'S DINER, PLEASE CONFIRM??" i know that stuff is all automated but i still want to call them and be like "please let your computer known that a $5 tip at a restaurant should never be considered suspiciously high"

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 02:01 (one week ago) link

there's a place in america where coffee eggs and toast still costs $10.75???

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 02:12 (one week ago) link

in Seattle I'm pretty sure that's at least $90

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 02:12 (one week ago) link

any time I see a sandwich in a deli that's only $5-$6 I immediately assume the whole restaurant is a drug trafficking front and leave

ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 02:16 (one week ago) link

and then go out back to get drugs

ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 02:16 (one week ago) link

Here in Buffalo that $90 could get you a house, with enough change leftover for coffee eggs & toast at the diner (depending on the tip)

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 02:21 (one week ago) link

there's a place in america where coffee eggs and toast still costs $10.75???

That does seem a little cheap. At the two diner/cafe places near me breakfast (eggs, meat, bread, potatoes) is about $15-17 per person, depending on what exactly you get.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 02:38 (one week ago) link

sorry for my insensitive reply, DJP, it wasn’t at all cool for me to be all “no, but what I meant was” in response to your post

brimstead, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 02:39 (one week ago) link

it took me a while to parse the recent posts but it is true, undertipping is OK if the servers/establishment are racist/assholes/etc, what I was agreeing with was that after a pleasant experience there is really no limit to a tip

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 03:12 (one week ago) link

in Seattle I'm pretty sure that's at least $90

Having just spent a week there, I can confirm this is true. :D

Also currently fighting off tears after looking at my credit-card bill because of the very strong dollar compared to pounds these days ;_;

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 06:37 (one week ago) link

sorry for my insensitive reply, DJP, it wasn’t at all cool for me to be all “no, but what I meant was” in response to your post

tbf I did Kool-Aid Man into the thread with that post

Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 11:26 (one week ago) link

I am going to be brave and not tip 20% when I get my hair done tonight because apparently I've been overtripping here and now I know why the nail salon girls are always so nice to me. I thought we were buds! :/

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 11:41 (one week ago) link

When you're used to tipping a certain way it feels so weird and wrong not to.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 11:42 (one week ago) link

Lately I'll sometimes leave a $2 tip on a $4 coffee just b/c like whatever man

― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, April 30, 2024 11:51 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

who cares

― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, April 30, 2024 11:51 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

yeah fuck all these stingy bastards!!

groovemaaan, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 13:12 (one week ago) link

there's a place in america where coffee eggs and toast still costs $10.75???

it's hard for me to imagine coffee, eggs, and toast being much more than like $12 maybe

budo jeru, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 21:16 (one week ago) link

Have you been to a joint called California

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 21:16 (one week ago) link

i just checked and a plate of scrambled eggs, bacon, and pancakes at the Denny's near me is 7.99

budo jeru, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 21:18 (one week ago) link

Vomit

ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 22:03 (one week ago) link

7.99 but then coffee is another $3.50

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 22:08 (one week ago) link

right which is 74 cents more than 10.75

budo jeru, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 22:30 (one week ago) link

and that's WITH bacon

budo jeru, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 22:30 (one week ago) link

for 10.75 in Philly you can get a pretty decent hoagie and a side of fries at the local Papi store.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 2 May 2024 01:16 (one week ago) link


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