EXTREME METAL Albums Poll - Nominations Round

and goths deny they're goths. lol

imago what has 2015 got to do with anything? its a poll for best extreme metal albums. Its more or less been decided extreme metal started around 1980/81 so what if things have gotten more extreme since?

The history of metal is very important to metallers especially as outsiders despised it and wouldn't allow it in their own canon.

I cant remember if this is the article I referred to earlier or not but if not its another that says 1981
https://twophoton.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/history-of-extreme-metal-part-1-1981-1984/

https://twophoton.wordpress.com/2009/04/12/history-of-extreme-metal-part-ii-dawn-of-death-metal-1985-88/

https://twophoton.wordpress.com/2009/05/16/history-of-extreme-metal-part-iii-golden-age-of-thrash-1985-89/

http://loudwire.com/top-extreme-metal-albums/

...anyway, unless there's a no comp rule, I say Nihilist goes in

Nihilist - 1987-1989

I think frobisher said pre album tape demos are allowed so presumably that is allowed?

if so then I nominate the Paul Chain era Death SS

The Story of Death SS. 1977–1984

that's the roots of Hellhammer right there I reckon tom g mustve been aware of them

Hey everyone! I have some things to take care of today so I'll be away for a number of hours...

Yes, early unreleased/demo stuff is allowed, just note that as a lot of people won't have heard it, it might not garner a lot of votes.

I hate to say this cause I think it sounds elitist, but I don't think taking a sort of outside/empirical view and attempting to develop a really objective standard for extreme metal is productive or beneficial. I think if you've been into metal for years, having a degree of breadth and depth to it, knowing the woof and warp of it sort of intuitively is a better way of sorting things out.

Of course this poll is not just for die-hard metal fans who have listened for years & years so if you like something and you think its metal or highly related to metal and is ~extreme~ to you then go ahead and nominate it.

cool, thanks. Yeah, tho the Nihilist comp is demos, IMO it's as good or better than any other DM around at the time (and particularly relevant for new school revivalist bands playing OSDM). Seriously, if you haven't heard it folks, hear it!

Do these count?

Earth - Earth 2
Sunn O))) - Black One
Melvins - Houdini
Poison - Into the Abyss
Ministry - ΚΕΦΑΛΗΞΘ [Psalm 69]
Warning - Warning

yes those count

At what point do Opeth albums become disqualified as not metal?

When Mikael Akerfeldt says they're not a metal band anymore - so, basically, Heritage and Pale Communion.

Gojira - From Mars to Sirius

cheers phil

have we got all the important death, black and thrash albums nominated?

Atheist - Piece of Time
Atheist - Unquestionable Presence

if we have extra spaces on our ballots it's okay to vote for all the deafheaven albums twice right

Pornograffiti
III Sides to Every Story

and the second person to make the joke award goes to..

OK two more then I'm probably done

Code - Nouveau Gloaming
Virus - The Black Flux

Boris - at Last -Feedbacker-
Melvins - Lysol
Jesu - Jesu
Nadja - Touched
Boris - Amplifier Worship
Sunn O))) - ØØ Void
Sunn O))) - 3: Flight of the Behemoth
Gnaw Their Tongues - An Epiphanic Vomiting of Blood
Monarch - 666

Vlad Tepes/Belketre - March to the Black Holocaust
Carnage - Dark Recollections
Mayhem - Live in Leipzig
Paysage d'Hiver - s/t
Gorgoroth - Antichrist

Merciless - The Awakening

O if we're nominating Bèlketre then surely Ambre Zuèrkl Vuorhdrévarvtre must be in there (cheers Dominique for the heads-up on that)

Solstafir - Svartir Sandar
Solstafir - Otta

Aren't they a post-rock band?

Everything is extreme

post black metal if you really must use such terms

you dont need to vote for anything you dont consider extreme

infact will you even vote?

course I'm going to vote :)

and the second person to make the joke award goes to..

― Cosmic Slop, Monday, September 28, 2015 2:56 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ooooh wow, I wasn't prepared for this...wow...sorry let me look at my notes. Well, first off I've got to thank Frobisher for starting this thread -- I couldn't have made it without you! Thanks for giving me a shot, I know there were a lot of established metalheads who wanted to be the second person to make this joke, so your faith in me is something I'll always remember...

wow...I'm sorry, there are just so many people to thank...I need to thank Cosmic Slop, you've always been my rock, my inspiration though the years....and most importantly my wife and daughter...this joke and all my jokes wouldn't be possible without your love and support.

Thanks everyone!

I'm not a metal expert by any stretch but I'm interpreting the poll as "the best albums that come under the umbrella term of 'extreme metal'" rather than "the most extreme albums that are metal". I mean I'm sure everyone's ballot will have some stuff on it that's not extreme as some of the other stuff they're voting for. Also there are many ways metal can be extreme!

imago's just butthurt frobisher vetoed a hip-hop album

has anyone done a spotify playlist?

Only one Bolt Thrower nominated?

two right?

So is extreme metal quite literally everything except for proto metal/hard rock, NWOBHM, hair metal and nu-metal?

for this poll its whatever frobisher decides it is

That's not meant to be judgmental just sort of wondering if in context of metal idea of extremity has lost all meaning. At one time extreme metal was an antidote to something (or at least outside of some mainstream). Looking at this list and it seems like this is just metal's last two decades....

well, its not like there isnt lots of non-extreme metal. The fact some of us don't listen to it doesnt mean it doesnt exist. the biggest 'metal' of the last 20 years has probably been alternative metal or nu-metal.

But obviously extreme metal is a very wide vague term now and frobisher's rules acknowledge that.

I'm not sure but when he signed up 2 years ago to do this poll on the Ballot Poll Order Thread I think it was in response to grady saying he wanted to do a hard rock/hair metal thread

*poll

I didn't even veto the Dalek album. I am a benevolent dictator!

Alex if you have a good working definition of extreme metal you are free to enlighten us.
(xp no Grady's was in response to mine)

was it? I thought he was ahead of you in the queue but just unable to run it just now

Ok, I'm not sure now... who knows... its somewhere on that huge thread two years ago. They were thought up basically at the same time though.

I'll be working on adding the nominations from today so far, thanks for all the interest everybody! I think its going really well.

Alex if you have a good working definition of extreme metal you are free to enlighten us.
--Frobisher

I don't at all! I'm actually wondering if the term is even relevant now!

It probably isn't since metal has split into thousands of microgenres but its a good umbrella term for the purposes of frobisher's poll.

It's definitely more catchy than metal 1981-2015 that does not include X, Y and Z I'll give you that.

Soilent Green - Sewn Mouth Secrets
Burnt by the Sun - Soundtrack to the Personal Revolution
Pig Destroyer - Terrifyer
Necrophagist - Onset of Putrefaction
Nasum - Helvete
Rotten Sound - Exit
Scorn - Vae Solis
Noothgrush - Erode the Person
Cephalic Carnage - Anomalies
Brain Drill - Apocalyptic Feasting
Ion Dissonance - Solace
Psyopus - Our Puzzling Encounters Considered
Ephel Duath - The Painter's Palette
Blotted Science - The Machinations of Dementia

Awesome. I forgot about a lot of that Relapse stuff. One of many things I miss about regularly shopping at music stores is being able to see Relapse titles at a glace thanks to that little card over the top of the CD -- and in those days there was a good chance it would be something cool.

For all I know the label is still kicking ass; I never think to check the "bigger" label sites anymore, esp for news. I think I should do that right now!