― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 17 October 2005 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 17 October 2005 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 17 October 2005 15:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Monday, 17 October 2005 15:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 17 October 2005 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― michael crumsho (clikatowi), Monday, 17 October 2005 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:04 (eighteen years ago) link
om is better than both though
n/a - don't look at it as 'stoner metal,' because that will lead you down a path of lots of crappy music. Just buy two or three Electric Wizard albums and be done with it. THOSE records ALL fucking SLAY
― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:17 (eighteen years ago) link
Maybe I just don't like stoner rock.
― richard wood johnson, Monday, 17 October 2005 16:18 (eighteen years ago) link
Also, does it seem like this is everywhere all the sudden, or am I just sinking deeper into stoner culture? I've heard several different people talking about it, plus its appearing on BROKEN FLOWERS OST (oh no!)
― Sonny, Monday, 17 October 2005 16:41 (eighteen years ago) link
How could it appear on the OST without being the OST?
― richard wood johnson, Monday, 17 October 2005 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― God Body (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link
Yeah, a bunch of stoner and doom bands. The phenom that the practice and style has been everywhere all of a sudden has been everywhere all of a sudden for a few years, minimum.
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 17 October 2005 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Monday, 17 October 2005 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link
The version on Broken Flowers OST is between four and five minutes long, so I assume it's an edit.
― Sonny, Monday, 17 October 2005 17:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 17 October 2005 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― nancyboy (nancyboy), Monday, 17 October 2005 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Monday, 17 October 2005 17:38 (eighteen years ago) link
Psych doom - does it exist? or, "Why isn't there a WITCHCRAFT thread yet?"
DOOM
― nancyboy (nancyboy), Monday, 17 October 2005 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link
Fact of the matter is, it's not particularly great. Its mythology exceeds its listenability. The story of "Jerusalem" and "Dopesmoker" is much better in the telling than in the listening and that will always be a substantial part of its appeal. The genre's "Tales of the Topographic Ocean," maybe. Hampton-Grease Band's "Music to Eat?" In any case, if you have the patience to pick and choose in stoner and doom records, there are quite a few that are preferable to anything Sleep's catalog.
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 17 October 2005 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― nancyboy (nancyboy), Monday, 17 October 2005 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link
In the sense of insurmountable-object, maybe. But TFTO has the advantage of actually being good.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 17 October 2005 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link
NO WAY.
― ddb (ddb), Monday, 17 October 2005 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link
For my money, though, I still say Electric Wizard.
― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 17 October 2005 18:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― nancyboy (nancyboy), Monday, 17 October 2005 19:15 (eighteen years ago) link
jumping more to the point: ***what is the best thing to listen to besides sleep to determine whether or not its worth it to hear more??****
― buyabiznatch (buyabiznatch), Monday, 17 October 2005 19:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― amon (eman), Monday, 17 October 2005 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link
i always enjoyed listening to it. I have no problem with the length. I'm kinda lazy, so I'm not big on getting up anyway. i was never fanatical enough to buy the later dopesmoker version though. i never cared for the first sleep album. that one bored me, not as good as st. vitus, etc. but, yeah, jerusalem is funny and cool and it is nice and heavy. great riffs. what's not to like? the latest high on fire, i think, is the best thing the dude has ever done. i didn't really like either of the other high on fire albums i had. just sold the first one on ebay with the 45 in it where they cover celtic frost. got all of 5 bucks for it. of course, the new HOF "sounds" great and the first two sounded horrible, so that might have something to do with it.
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 17 October 2005 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― amon (eman), Monday, 17 October 2005 22:44 (eighteen years ago) link
Speaking of Grief, buyabiznatch would probably like that band. Go for any of the albums on Pessimiser or Theologian, Torso probably first followed by And Man Shall Become the Hunted. That's slowed down drawn out riffing, recorded heavy with a vocalist who sounds like he has a torn throat. It's pretty monolithic and would have a high probability of appealing to fans of Dopesmoker. I listen to Grief way more often than Sleep.
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 17 October 2005 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― God Body (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 17 October 2005 22:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 17 October 2005 23:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― amon (eman), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 00:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― amon (eman), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 00:38 (eighteen years ago) link
Cheesy's no obstacle to liking lots of forms of metal, or just about any other genre. I find very little entertainment that's actually cheese free. It's one of the fundamentals, like hydrogen on the periodic table.
I'm a fan of Trouble but my favorite albums are their last two -- Manic Frustration and Plastic Green Head. Right now, PGH is probably my fave. Their version of "The Porpoise Song" kills for incinerating wah'd guitar solo. Heavy psyche influence and Beatles/Monkees/Donovan love in late period Trouble.
Nebula was a highly regarded stoner rock band for awhile. Never was able to capitalize. Spirit Caravan catalog is good early (Jug Fulla Sun), falls apart toward the end. The Obsessed, another earlier Wino band was virtually identical. Hidden Hand is up and down. Did an album with Victor Griffin in Place of Skulls. Man, he does a lot of stuff.
― George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 02:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― amon (eman), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 03:03 (eighteen years ago) link
i already bought jerusalem so i ain't picking up dopesmoker unless'n i see it for cheap. but jerusalem's ok, i guess. holy mountain is way better - though i think the genius doesn't really kick in until the second half of the album - as is OM.
and as much as saying things are overrated is overrated, i tend to agree with roger about saint vitus these days. reagers period is best, though the wino era has some killer tunes here and there it's really in essence a compromise between the best of vitus and the best of the obsessed which makes a kind of boring muddle at times.
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 03:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 03:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― |l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l| (eman), Friday, 3 February 2006 06:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― trees (treesessplode), Thursday, 29 June 2006 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― CDDB (Dan Deluca), Thursday, 29 June 2006 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link
I would rather heat my liver with drinking.
― Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Thursday, 29 June 2006 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link
holy mountain is fucking awesome
― HOOS HOOS HOOS on the autosteen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 10 November 2008 07:27 (fifteen years ago) link
fyfuckingi
So, anyone going to ATP: The Fans Strike Back, May 8-10 2009, where the reformed Sleep are playing Holy Mountain and selections from Dopesmoker & more...?
― krakow, Monday, 10 November 2008 08:17 (fifteen years ago) link
oh shi
― HOOS HOOS HOOS on the autosteen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 10 November 2008 14:32 (fifteen years ago) link
I agree with whomever said Om is better above.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 10 November 2008 14:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Wrong
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 10 November 2008 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link
selections from dopesmoker?
― original bgm, Monday, 10 November 2008 14:42 (fifteen years ago) link
I almost bought St. Vitus last night but was scared away by worries it would sound thin with no bottom end. Do they?
― national oracle BIG HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 10 November 2008 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link
THE PTERODACTYL FLIES AGAIN
― had (crüt), Saturday, 21 April 2018 02:52 (six years ago) link
i posted something about the new album on FB and my mom liked it in what was probably an unconditional mom like but it's crackin me up
― gbx, Saturday, 21 April 2018 03:32 (six years ago) link
momojuanonaut
― j., Saturday, 21 April 2018 03:46 (six years ago) link
Cisneros is credited with playing the water pipe in the liner notes. <3
― louise ck (milo z), Saturday, 21 April 2018 03:57 (six years ago) link
fuck yeah they killed it
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 22 April 2018 00:21 (six years ago) link
this was an enjoyable accompaniment to the board game we played last night
― imago, Sunday, 22 April 2018 10:25 (six years ago) link
Does anyone know when this will be available in stores as a physical release?
― Duke, Sunday, 22 April 2018 18:40 (six years ago) link
It was supposed to arrive in stores on the day of release, or so I was told.
So is this album legit good, or good in a "it's cool that it doesn't suck," MBV 2013 kinda way?
― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 22 April 2018 19:13 (six years ago) link
It's good, they still got the riffs
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 22 April 2018 19:15 (six years ago) link
I love the way this is recorded and mixed -- I agree it's their best-sounding album
― Brad C., Sunday, 22 April 2018 20:10 (six years ago) link
feels like they bridged the gap between Holy MOuntain and Dopesmoker a bit. there's nothing as drawn out as the latter obv, but they haven't really returned to their Sab-worship of HM outright either.
I'm cool w/ that
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 22 April 2018 20:12 (six years ago) link
it's not as good as dopesmoker but what is
― Mordy, Sunday, 22 April 2018 20:12 (six years ago) link
tr00
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 22 April 2018 20:13 (six years ago) link
I’m in on this being good. Good good not consolation good.
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Sunday, 22 April 2018 21:55 (six years ago) link
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It's not in any stores in Germany
― Duke, Monday, 23 April 2018 22:47 (six years ago) link
The new album was released here yesterday. Amazing. Tempted on first listens to call it their best. So well recorded. Listening to Al Cisneros' bass is such a joy.
― Duke, Saturday, 26 May 2018 21:42 (five years ago) link
I've just returned from a gig, still buzzing! Life altering
― willem, Saturday, 26 May 2018 21:51 (five years ago) link
Ha! I saw them last night. Was perfect
― Duke, Saturday, 26 May 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link
I just love hearing Pike play doom again, like he's digging around in the guts of the universe to tear out those chords
― my dreams in the hell-pits (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 26 May 2018 22:52 (five years ago) link
Marihuanaut's Theme is killer
― Duke, Sunday, 27 May 2018 20:04 (five years ago) link
And its lyrics are hilarious, but somehow just right
Where to start with the new stuff?
― calstars, Sunday, 27 May 2018 20:10 (five years ago) link
the first track on the new album?
― kurt schwitterz, Sunday, 27 May 2018 20:13 (five years ago) link
well, 2nd. the first track is an all-too-typical-for-the-genre pointless intro
― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 27 May 2018 20:33 (five years ago) link
True! Still. Just give the new album a listen.
― Duke, Sunday, 27 May 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link
What’s diSalvo’s take?
― calstars, Monday, 28 May 2018 01:07 (five years ago) link
So, gonna finally see these dudes. They're doing a three night stand at the end of the year here in SF; going to the first night as it's 1) cheaper and 2) Grayceon's the opener, and I seem to remember liking a few things by them.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 September 2018 19:27 (five years ago) link
where is this happening
― Οὖτις, Friday, 21 September 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link
Great American
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 September 2018 20:13 (five years ago) link
Amazing gig.
― Duke, Friday, 21 September 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link
this looks tempting
I hate New Year's celebrations as a general rule but this seems like an actually fun thing to do, more fun than staying home anyway
― Οὖτις, Friday, 21 September 2018 20:36 (five years ago) link
Have never seen Sleep. Saw Om at some point (supporting Sunn O))) [how many brackets?]), who were magnificent. Hopefully, Sleep will tour the UK again at some point.
― Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Friday, 21 September 2018 20:41 (five years ago) link
“Jersulam”
― coetzee.cx (wins), Friday, 21 September 2018 20:47 (five years ago) link
xpost Yeah really enjoyed Om when I finally saw them about a decade back. Never have seen High on Fire. But at least there's this!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 September 2018 20:51 (five years ago) link
Have seen both Om (twice - including the show Ned was at iirc) and High On Fire - the former more hypnotic and the latter more pummeling/shredding but both were good. Sleep is obviously somewhere in the middle
― Οὖτις, Friday, 21 September 2018 20:55 (five years ago) link
(altho I have never seen Sleep tbc)
― Οὖτις, Friday, 21 September 2018 20:56 (five years ago) link
You'll love it. They started with Marihuanaut's Theme and bludgeoned us into a state of bliss.
― Duke, Friday, 21 September 2018 20:56 (five years ago) link
are there any other 2018 shows? looks like they toured earlier in the year
― sleeve, Friday, 21 September 2018 21:04 (five years ago) link
Yeah looks like they're doing a December US tour in general:
https://www.facebook.com/pg/officialsleep/events/
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 September 2018 21:05 (five years ago) link
$330 APIECE?!
wtf
too rich for my blood
― Οὖτις, Friday, 21 September 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link
Eh? I paid $50 for mine, you sure you weren't looking at the three day pass?
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 September 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link
sigh yeah a tour of the south :(
― sleeve, Friday, 21 September 2018 21:31 (five years ago) link
this says $330 https://greatamericanmusichall.secureboxoffice.com/E/e-2850804/v-2092
― Οὖτις, Friday, 21 September 2018 21:50 (five years ago) link
that's for 4 tickets?
― sleeve, Friday, 21 September 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link
oh wait nm
yeah but they're all $330 each! fucking ticket sites are such a scam. I should've drilled down my search results more and just gone here, where they are in fact $50: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/sleep-saturday-gamh-w-grayceon-tickets-50364070290#tickets
― Οὖτις, Friday, 21 September 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link
heyo I have two tickets to see SLEEP at the Great American tonight…. But I am sick ☹On the off-chance that anyone is in town tonight and wants to see this show (which is sold out), or knows anyone who wants to see this show, plz let me know and I will happily sell my tix! webmail me. Tix were $60 apiece.
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 29 December 2018 16:44 (five years ago) link
guesses on price?
https://thirdmanstore.com/tmr-vault-platinum-subscription-new#
― sleeve, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 18:41 (five years ago) link
way more than the $20 ticket price for the actual show.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 19:56 (five years ago) link
It says $60 right there at the top
― sans lep (sic), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 20:19 (five years ago) link