New Yorker magazine alert thread

the magazine article this week by the woman who left her husband for the guy who turned out to have mental issues was very weird

My favorite part was when she suggested that this was something of a trend-- ruling class NY women falling for quirky artists who are disorganized and touchy and possibly psychopaths

I like challopsy political philosophy so I have no real gripes about The Case Against Democracy. Sometimes it's worth listening to people criticize things you believe in, even if they don't make you abandon your belief you can still learn something.

Anyone know how much the all access (print+digital) sub is after the 12 week intro period?

I think we just pay $106 a year.

So basically slightly more than Netflix.

Cool, I probably spend that picking up occasional issues from the bookstore.

Lol at this weeks cover

something of a trend-- ruling class NY women falling for quirky artists who are disorganized and touchy and possibly psychopaths

Cool I need to get over there. And start doing art.

can't bring myself to organize my memory into What's Good lately but, just bc i ordinarily skip the fiction, i love love loved the anne carson story

lol'd @ shouts and murmurs this wk

the Megan Amram one a bit ago (Trump's American Girls) was good

the magazine article this week by the woman who left her husband for the guy who turned out to have mental issues was very weird

do you have a link (or title) for that?

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/11/07/fire-and-water-a-brooklyn-love-story

still hilarious to me that there's a Chapo Trap House profile in the NYer (although I guess Mennaker's family legacy make it not totally surprising). Need to read it.

is that in print or web? Felix and Virgil were in talk of the town a few weeks ago, too

it's here: http://www.newyorker.com/culture/persons-of-interest/what-will-become-of-the-dirtbag-left

ya no i read it, just wondering if it was in print. but now I see it's Persons of Interest so web only

Menaker, who is thirty-three, told me that fans are drawn to the podcast because the hosts have “no special obligation to be nice to anyone, or get a pat on the head, or”—and here he briefly affected the voice of an aristocrat—“have a fine debate with mon conservative frère.” He rolled his eyes and mimed masturbation. “My reaction to that is a jack-off motion so hard it opens a portal into another dimension.”

Curious what a fan makes of that profile, because they come across as deeply unfunny to me.

(although I guess Mennaker's family legacy make it not totally surprising)

nah, the girl who wrote the profile is a former Gawker writer. just millenial internet media navel-gazing

yeah i have not listened to the podcast and the article did not make me want to listen to it at all

its really fucking hilarious that the Chapo guys spent the last two weeks on Twitter complaining about how the liberal media had its head up its lena dunham john oliver EVISCERATES hamilton slay kween social media ass all election, and then the new yorker does a written-through feature on the chapo traphouse podcast

anyway we should probably start a chapo traphouse thread now that lefty twitter has it's own Hipster Runoff

lefty Twitter has it's own Hipster Runoff

Ha. This is pretty succinct. Chapo getting a regular slot on Sirius XM coming next, no doubt.

Anyhow, they posted an ep already reacting to their own coverage and discomfort at being rendered in watercolor.

is this Chapo thing the new Ken Bone?

also what is a "trap house"

A better written intro: here.

Or this unofficial pilot, an excoriation of and discussion of the bizarro psychopathologies in the Michael Bay Benghazi movie.

Your mileage may vary, like with every other single thing on the internet.

Curious what a fan makes of that profile, because they come across as deeply unfunny to me.

yeah, I've been listening to this for awhile and the hosts are not funny at all. Some of the writing they find on the web is pretty hilarious though.

They're definitely at their best in interviews and when doing "reading series" stuff. It's fun to hear them shoot the shit for a while but it gets a little repetitive, especially Felix ("cucks" "he taught me it was ok to be weird" etc.). I don't really listen to it as a comedy podcast, more as a political podcast that is sometimes funny.

I thought I said this on this thread earlier, but the profile to me did not at all convey the appeal of the show

Also, I've been a fan for a while and have listened to nearly every ep, but I'm wondering how it will sustain my interest in a Trump presidency. I think even Will expressed that concern about the show. It's almost like they were right about the center-left and center-right punditocracy they targeted and it indeed proved to be irrelevant and now they're stuck trying to figure out a more original take on cheeto mussolini jokes.

Anyway, if you want a good intro to the show, I'd listen to one of the Freeway Ross Douthat episodes and stick through the banter to the part where they actually read from Douthat's book.

ya they're fucked now that Trump won

More podcasts should be short-lived imo

I expect the flourishing of intra-left bickering we saw under Obama to subside now that we have zero power anywhere

The two episodes per week model is kind of crazy (one free and one premium) -- hard to fill that much time with good content. Also not so sure about the new five-person model with Amber and Virgil Texas, always liked them as guests but it feels a bit crowded now.

Anyway sry to turn this into Chapo Trap Thread instead of NYer thread.

rob otm

just have to say the illustration of the chapos was extremely hilarious and weird, no idea what it was going for

all the articles in that section have the same style - http://www.newyorker.com/culture/persons-of-interest

I expect the flourishing of intra-left bickering we saw under Obama to subside now that we have zero power anywhere

― flopson, Monday, November 21, 2016

bush years suggest this will not be the case

Batuman-signal: A fictional story about freshman year at Harvard.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/01/23/constructed-worlds

It's an extract from her forthcoming novel, The Idiot

so it's basically a fictionalised retelling of her previous book? She seems really invested in her college years

Well, she has written a lot of other pieces for the magazine in the meantime, most of which didn't have anything to do with college. Also the last one was about grad school, this one is about undergrad.

Evan Osnos on Peter Thiele, other Silicon Valley tech titans buying up chunks of New Zealand in advance of global "trouble" / apocalypse.

Survivalism, the practice of preparing for a crackup of civilization, tends to evoke a certain picture: the woodsman in the tinfoil hat, the hysteric with the hoard of beans, the religious doomsayer. But in recent years survivalism has expanded to more affluent quarters, taking root in Silicon Valley and New York City, among technology executives, hedge-fund managers, and others in their economic cohort.

Last spring, as the Presidential campaign exposed increasingly toxic divisions in America, Antonio García Martínez, a forty-year-old former Facebook product manager living in San Francisco, bought five wooded acres on an island in the Pacific Northwest and brought in generators, solar panels, and thousands of rounds of ammunition. “When society loses a healthy founding myth, it descends into chaos,” he told me. The author of “Chaos Monkeys,” an acerbic Silicon Valley memoir, García Martínez wanted a refuge that would be far from cities but not entirely isolated. “All these dudes think that one guy alone could somehow withstand the roving mob,” he said. “No, you’re going to need to form a local militia. You just need so many things to actually ride out the apocalypse.” Once he started telling peers in the Bay Area about his “little island project,” they came “out of the woodwork” to describe their own preparations, he said. “I think people who are particularly attuned to the levers by which society actually works understand that we are skating on really thin cultural ice right now.”

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/01/30/doomsday-prep-for-the-super-rich

yea it was good. some discussion of it in this thread: rate the chances that you will experience a cataclysmic, world-threatening event before you're 70

clearest red flag of them all in second para

he was a competitive ballroom dancer

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/02/27/why-facts-dont-change-our-minds?mbid=social_twitter

great article!

if you're into evolutionary psychology, yes - if not, you might find this description of rationality... funny:

It emerged on the savannas of Africa, and has to be understood in that context.

for me the premise of the article is backwards, and I'd be more curious to trace and understand the notion of contemporary society and citizens as rational, than to understand why natural science hasn't by now turned us all into rational robots

yeah i often find the hunter-gatherer evolutionary psych conclusions a bit specious but the research is interesting