Fall Fashion -- Don't Let It Pass You By

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The weather is getting cooler and the stores are filled with clothes in autumnal colors.

Or perhaps you are following the pop retro-future 60s mandate.

What are you wearing and what do you hope to get this fall?

I bought a brown curduroy skirt from H&M and brown fall-y stripey socks from Flying A but I don't have a shirt to go with them.

I am also thinking of white pseudo retro button-up calf-high boots from Williamsburg.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 26 September 2003 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I am obeying the TALL BOOTS mandate. Today I am wearing chocolate-colored stretchy suede over-the-knee high heeled boots, tiny velvet panne leopard spot print on silk skirt and a oatmeal-colored shetland wool funnel-neck sweater.

I hope to get some decent chocolate~ colored separates, I am thinking a corduroy skirt and a nice merino sweater. I need work shirts, possibly striped.

felicity

― felicity (felicity), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I've gotten a long-sleeve black shirt (obvious wardrobe staple), brown and beige and cream and black floral print skirt that flairs out, and a sporty zip-up sweater with a retro look and pastel colors and beige and cream.

I really want a pleated A line skirt and tall semi-dressy boots.

We (NA & I) went to the mall last night (a new outdoor one near us) and I touched everything in J Crew and Anne Taylor Loft as NA shook his finger and his head. I'm supposed to be saving for our move. Blah. (But Chicago is cold! I need more warm stuff, right?)

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Silver is U&K but then again I saw that every season. I bought that great red and white polo at Alphabets from the sale rack, I think that will look good with my black tennis skirt and the white knee socks with the red lettering on them from Flying A, but I haven't any shoes to go with them. I wish I hadn't throw out my platform oxfords cos that would be good.

I've taken to dying my hair multi-tonal autumn colors!

xpost: boots are U&K as well but then again I say that every season. I am still wearing my lace up midcalf boots but I'd like to get some more pairs. I wish I could wear such awesome clothes to work, I'm wearing a boring beigh crepe suit with a black silk sweater and black strappy sandals :(

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I forgot! I need more corduroy pants. I prefer skirts but I have a bunch of corduroy skirts already - beiges, brown, and dark reds. I only have one pair of corduroy pants and they're brown.

And, of course, whenever I say brown I mean chocolate!

― Sarah MCLUsky (coco), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think I'm supposed to be wearing these clothes to work either but it is the Jewish New Year and if anyone complains I can bring up the Holocast and then nobody can say anything.

― felicity (felicity), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

How the hell did I miss the red&white polo?

I've tried on two silver skirts so far this year. Both on them looked like mock leather that was spray-painted with silver. Do all silver skirts look this way? The first one was at that second-hand store in W'burg, it was like $10, over-the-kneee. I tried it on to try and cop Ally's style, it fit but the zipper part was extra-long, it was kinda weird. Then there was another one at H&M: this one was short!!! I wasn't in love with it either, so I am still silver-less.

I need more curdurouys too. I bought a brown pair at the pop shop in MCR but they don't fit so well I don't think, baggy. Well, maybe I'll try them out again today. And when I say brown I mean brown. Actually, the cords are more rust/sand/ight brown.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I should maybe try that on Dia de los Muertos???

There's a lot of good courderoy at the GAP right now, cos it's kind of thinner weight courderoy--I hate regular stuff, it makes me look kind of "huge assed" so to speak? I dunno everyone else looks fine in it though.

I think I am going to attempt to single-handed revive the seamed-stockings look.

I need more silver, H&M I come!!! It's ok if you cop my style cos I copped your tennis skirt.

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)

That's okay cause that was Felicity's tennis skirt. Down with originality!

Mary

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:15 (twenty-two years ago)

That is a good game though, let's just throw all of our clothes in a big pile and then just mad grab them back and see what comes out?

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't afford new clothes this season :( except for H&M. though my parents are in town so im trying to wear my rattiest clothing in the hopes they'll buy me those $1100 prada alligator gloves that i wouldn't mind having! or something more practical, like a Japanese schoolboy outfit

― phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:20 (twenty-two years ago)

What is all this talk about "affording" things? That's why god makes credit!

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)

These brown cords are so ill-fitting, I don't know what I was thinking when I bought them.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh! I cannot wait to wear my fur trimmed sweater.

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:28 (twenty-two years ago)

best thread ever

― Bryan (Bryan), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Apparently, there's an H & M at that new mall, but we haven't seen that part yet. Hmm....

Sometimes when I say brown I mean brown... But I do really have a thing for chocolate brown right now.

― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Bryan tell us your fall fashion.

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I bought a bunch of new sweaters for fall in fall-ish colors with assorted types of necklines. I'm pretty pleased with myself because I usually can't clothes-shop worth a damn.

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't bought anything stylish or interesting in so long, this thread is depressing.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)

What is all this talk about "affording" things? That's why god makes credit!

You're assuming I HAVE credit :(

― phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't have credit either Phil, it's ok :(

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmm...
I have no fashion sense at all so there's no sense in saying a bunch of stuff. I love oxford shirts and flat front trousers (zzzzzzzzzzz), and I need shoes too. I don't want to turn this into a winter coat thread (as if I could anyway), but what's hot this year for men?

― Bryan (Bryan), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I really enjoy my sweater though, I got it at a vintage place, I forget the name but it's next door to Alphabets on Greenwich. Starstruck, maybe? It's a cream-colored cashmere cardigan with a white fur trim, it's crazy.

xpost, trenchcoats are always the way to go if you are asking me!!!

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:43 (twenty-two years ago)

phil-two, Would your parents really buy you $1100 gloves?!
Do you have a pic of them?

― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:45 (twenty-two years ago)

A trenchcoat would be ok except for that it's as cold as a witch's tit here in the winter. A long wool overcoat may be needed and always looks sharp.

― Bryan (Bryan), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Can't you get a wool trenchcoat? Maybe that is a bit girly, but I had one forever until I threw up all over it and mysteriously lost the belt and also tore the pockets.

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

That red one? I really like that. I, too, show my clothes "tough love."

― felicity (felicity), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh no I still have the red coat! This was a coat of years past, like two years ago. I just can't keep a belt to a coat for some reason though.

I can prevent myself from puking on coats though, I'm quite shamed by that and also for the fact that I couldn't be bothered to get it properly cleaned. (TMI?)

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't really like the look with the belt that a trenchcoat has. Makes my ass look even more huge than it already does. Something like the Brooks Brothers Brookstorm Long Towncoat would be good. Too boring perhaps?

― Bryan (Bryan), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Fashion Doctor, how much time do you give this trend of overlong, belted knit cardigan sweaters? Fall classic or the peasant shirt/turquoise pendant combo of seasons past?

Also, why is everyone shoving brightly colored striped WELLINGTON BOOTS in our faces at all times? I half want them but I think they would look fresh for about 2 minutes and then be puke-causing.

― felicity (felicity), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Boring is ok, but you should get one with a contrasting lining.

I think I'd like a leather trenchcoat this year but they are tres pricey. xpost, I really don't like those overlong, belted sweaters at all. They look good on some people but they are just not my style at all. Clingy things on my backside=BIG HUGE NO NO.

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 26 September 2003 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Costume National has an awesome cracked reddish/brownish leather jacket. i tried it on, but it looked far too masculine than anything i should be allowed to wear. also, it was $3100

― phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 26 September 2003 19:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess I've been wearing a few mod/60s accessories (belts mostly) but I don't like mod in general.. went to H&M and none of the pants have the right cut for me. this is most unfortunate.

I like tweed and 3/4 sleeve/bracelet sleeve vintage jackets, personally... and really need a cool pair of long gloves (winter gloves, just to be practical about it) - haven't found these yet. I guess I could use another good pencil skirt or two (pinstripes would be TOP), I am tall so they suit me better than the a-line ones.

Most of all I want, besides the gloves, some icy pastel colored sweaters, very very light, to wear with a couple of absurdly bright knitted scarves I've picked up in the past year. I'm lucky there are absolutely SUPER thrift shops around here.

― daria g (daria g), Friday, 26 September 2003 19:09 (twenty-two years ago)

H&M pants don't really work on me either...but they had some awesome gloves there.

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 26 September 2003 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Fashion Doctor, how much time do you give this trend of overlong, belted knit cardigan sweaters? Fall classic or the peasant shirt/turquoise pendant combo of seasons past?

From the other side, I consider them simultaneously evocative and displacing. I know a couple of people they look good on but maybe they just suit "my type," whatever that is (also, I'm a hippie).

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 26 September 2003 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, I really disliked them until ppl I knew started wearing them. Hmm.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 26 September 2003 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)

In what way whatsoever are you a hippie?

― felicity (felicity), Friday, 26 September 2003 19:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry, gabb, I didn't mean that as accusatori-ly as it came out. Just intense curiosity!

― felicity (felicity), Friday, 26 September 2003 19:31 (twenty-two years ago)

i did the brown spectrum earlier this week yet i am still having dreams of beige and cream camouflage with pink sakura leaves ... decidedly more spring-ly but my seasons are in reverse, hemispherical opposites ... it could be buenos aires ...

my usual autumn dreams have been deep maroons and navies ... discarded prep unis with pearlized cufflinks i am going to bed soon

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 26 September 2003 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

hippieness has to be pondered. belted sweaters may require long hair.

i may break the plaid barrier this fall. maybe.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 26 September 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I am kind of stocking up on the mod right now but don't think I will wear much of it until the trend dies down. I have several pairs of knee high boots already and have gotten a white polyurethane mini, a black and white A line skirt from Zara, and several mod-ish tops from there too. Plus I have my scooter as an accessory if I ever remembered to take her out on the weekends.

Other recent purchases: some salvatore ferragamo mules that I have yet to wear, tons of knee socks, and a pewter flask. I have also decided to save a little and invest in a really nice, stylish winter coat that will not be used for work but only for play.

― Carey (Carey), Friday, 26 September 2003 21:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll have a chance to break out the Banana Republic-purchased pants a bit more, rah.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 26 September 2003 21:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Carey, where did you get your knee-socks? I just ordered a brown three-pack from Delias; I can't wait until they arrive.

I think the mod thing is good for people who have always done mod, like our Hiromix-ish Carey, but I wonder about for mysef. As Felicity says, I suppose in mod-eration it is okay.

Sarah, re chocolate brown: I got boots last winter/spring that I thought were brown, but when I brought them home I realized they were chocolate brown. I think this is such a different color than regular brown (which has a billion different shades btw), it is so much closer to black, so dark, oily, and horse-y.

Belted cardigans: are we talking about the same tired things that have making the rounds for the past 5 or so years? I say pass, unless you already have one, and can just wrap it around yourself when the weather gets nippy. Or has there been a new innovation?

How do we feel about shawls? I just passed a girl wearing a brown plaid one. I think the key is to wear them asymetrically, something I am not artsy enough to do.

Curduroy pants: There could be a whole thread on this, really. The gap ones don't fit me that well, they are always too baggy in weird places. I like these stretchy ones from JJ or something. It's a weird brand but they come in every color and fit pretty well, if very snug. I want a pair in blue next. They also make jeans but I've never trained them on.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 26 September 2003 21:45 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.assemblylanguage.com/images/Hiromix.JPG

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 26 September 2003 21:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I got lots of knee socks when i was in London and and went into mod overload. There were a lot of new shops on Oxford St. that I had never recalled before, and didn't have time to explore. I was loving stuff in Top Shop (although the Cambridge one was more manageable for me, thus when I got to London I couldn't deal with buying anything) and I went into the new Dorothy Perkins flagship store that had lots of cheap clothes on par with H&M. Plus free massages and BEER! I was just starting to think that H&M was over and that they had expanded too fast, due to my disappointment with their summer line, but I went in recently and got an orange dot button down shirt, white fingerless gloves, a black pleated mini, white furry earmuffs, cream cordoroys, and an orange and cream sweater. So, H&M can stay.

I believe in the Mary Timony way of the trouser. She always rocks the brightly colors pants as her trademark. So, Mary, I would say get those cordoroys in EVERY color.

I was just thinking about the shawl too and was going to invest soon. The asymetric placement to me screams messenger bag, but perhaps that is comforting.

― Carey (Carey), Friday, 26 September 2003 22:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha ha (x post). I was just thinking about getting some knee high red boots, and a gold lasso.

― Carey (Carey), Friday, 26 September 2003 22:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I found the Oxford Street Top Shop overwhelming as well. Ed told me I should check out Dorothy Perkins, but I was on major store overload that day. I also wrongly assumed that the uniform shop was in Selfridges and then he informed the night before I was leaving that is was at John Lewis.

Carey, did you get your H&M loot here or in London? I didn't go into their London store due to more of the Oxford Circus Overload Syndrome.

Felicity, re galoshes, they are vile but very cheap, and shiny. I don't think you can go too wrong with them, and they may even come in handy on a rainy day.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 26 September 2003 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Note the autumnal hair and shawl (blanket?)

http://farstrider.net/Journal/Jpop/BrillGreenLA1.jpg

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 26 September 2003 22:28 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.visi.com/fall/news/guard.jpg

(the old ones are the best)

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 26 September 2003 22:29 (twenty-two years ago)

H&M loot here. (hate the soho one, have just started to have success with the 5th ave one, usually go to herald sq. although I just went to the one 1 avenue away which was very different and had better going out clothes and a more manageable layout). I didn't ever bother with the London ones.

I have been thinking of a more crocheted looking shawl as opposed to the blankety type.

― Carey (Carey), Friday, 26 September 2003 22:33 (twenty-two years ago)

very weird fashion occurance...

you know when you see someone wearing the exact same thing as you?

on the subway home, i was reading the most recent (?) issue of vanity fair and there was an article on the dfa and the rapture and in the pictures one of the rapture guys is wearing the same exact thing as i am (i'll let you guess which one)... for a clue, check the "what are you heheh wearing?" thread, i'm sure it (or something very similar) is on there.

― gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 27 September 2003 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

gygax you trendster, is it a stripey frenchman tshirt?

I need a coat, badly, tonight I was so cold. Also I spent all my money on t-shirts and trainers, the perpetual easy option, this summer.

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 27 September 2003 00:07 (twenty-two years ago)

We are having *75 degree days here* whooo, which means last chance to wear summery skirts.

Last weekend I went winter clothes shopping & got one of the adorable JCrew bi-colored scarves & found a cute little tan velvety coat in a little store in Belltown, too., with sort of striped trim in the same fabric & three rows of buttons down the front.

Gap cords don't really fit me, either- they always just look kind of weird. I haven't looked for cords from anyone else yet, though- I was going to get almondish colored ones, but need reconsider in light of the tan color of my coat. Head-to-toe pale brown colors looks a little odd. ;)

― lyra (lyra), Saturday, 27 September 2003 01:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm going to get a cordorouy jacket to wear this fall, in addition to my very girly/faggy light blue "COOL IT" plastic'y jacket.

― phil-two (phil-two), Saturday, 27 September 2003 03:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I went into Abercrombie and Fitch for the first time in years (well, the first time since they even started selling clothes made for teens) and the first thing I saw was this great brown-and-white vintage style, faded, wrinky polo. Tried it on and loved it. Thought to myself what a revelation A&F is until I started looking at the other stuff and it ALL SUCKED. This one brown and white polo was the only thing in the store I liked, but dayumm it's cool!

― Aaron A., Saturday, 27 September 2003 04:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the New York H&M must be getting stuff ahead of the rest of the country, maybe? did not see any fingerless gloves here. I did go thrifting & found long camel-colored gloves (yay!) a sharp dark blue velvet long coat, and a gorgeous wool kilt in green & navy though I am still not sure I like the way it fits..

Oh, and I was in the Gap last week trying to find a pair of cheap yet decent jeans & they ARE cut funny, every single pair has the same weird fit at the hips even though I tried four or five styles. J Crew has some very nice cords, perhaps I'll pick up a red pair next..

Chocolate brown, I generally don't go there, it is a whole strange world trying to match that with the usual palette of stuff I wear and eh, I had to wear it for years against my will in Catholic school, that must be the root of the problem. ;)

― daria g (daria g), Saturday, 27 September 2003 07:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I need a couple of cute versatile skirts...all my great tights and knee socks are going to waste.

― teeny (teeny), Saturday, 27 September 2003 15:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Bryan, how about a wool "car coat" -- J Crew offers a lot of them and they hit just around the thighs? You could get one with a nice plaid lining.

Daria, where do you live (if I may ask)?

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 27 September 2003 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I kinda like those car coats (I have something like a car coat already), but I'm thinking I'd like something longer but I'm not sure why. I probably won't be doing much walking outdoors this winter since I have to drive to work so a shorter coat would make more sense. I'm going to wear my chocolate corduroys and a Woolrich plaid flannel shirt today for the first time since spring. Like walking around in pyjamas.

― Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 27 September 2003 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I am obeying the dapper cricket jumper autumnal look mandate (though it's somewhat skinnier and thinner than real cricket jumper).

I want obey the black and white optical illusion mandate I saw in the Guardian magazine today though.

― N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 27 September 2003 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I got the white boots.

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 27 September 2003 19:19 (twenty-two years ago)

(By the way, they are snap-up, not button-up. Who wears button-up boots? Silver snaps.)

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 27 September 2003 19:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Score!

― Carey (Carey), Saturday, 27 September 2003 20:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Nanette Lepore?

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 27 September 2003 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.nanettelepore.com/images/splashsmall.gif

― Carey (Carey), Saturday, 27 September 2003 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)

My boots aren't as tall as November Jenny's

http://www.dollsjapan.com/tjd9.jpg

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:01 (twenty-two years ago)

They are closer to the height of Dawn's on the right's

http://www.toppertowers.com/apts/lofts/bbabs62/FavoriteDawns.jpg

I wish I knew what a cricket jumper looked like. It sounds woefully exotic. Is it anything like a white tennis sweater?

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Are they shiny white boots? You should search the song "Nightmare" by the Whyte Boots, a groovy girl band.

― Carey (Carey), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:20 (twenty-two years ago)

They're leather or pleather -- they are not super shiny. But they have a really cheesy shiny hot pink lining.

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Blythe rocks the red boots

http://www.bbc.co.uk/nottingham/students/2002/10/hello_blythe_exhibition_150_02.jpg

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I have a pair of calf high, flat heeled burgundy boots from Camden, all because I fell in love with a barista in Amsterdam that was wearing wide rolled pantleg jeans that highlighted her burgundy boots so well. I rarely wear mine because I feel too superheroish in them. We should have a Boot FAP!

― Carey (Carey), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Ok on the bootFap. For me every FAP is a bootFap.

I got the coveted chocolate brown sweater but it is v. unsatisfying because it is still about 75 degrees and humid in New York.

This is one of the years they are trying to impose the the white wool winter coat mandate. How stupid do they think we are? We may be stupid but we are not that stupid.

― felicity (felicity), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)

YES! It shall be named the BootFap because the only way I will wear my Bounce Bounce Ko-Gal boots is if I have a mission. Otherwise, I have not the energy nor the stamina for the heels.

― Carey (Carey), Saturday, 27 September 2003 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

arrghhh I went looking for skirts and bought tops instead!

― teeny (teeny), Sunday, 28 September 2003 01:04 (twenty-two years ago)

White coats are the best. N___ has a white down coat which is oh so fetching.

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 28 September 2003 05:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Mary, as I thought you knew by now, in Britain, 'jumpers '= 'sweaters'. I tend to think of jumpers as being chunkier than sweaters, but that may be because I am hung up on sweater girls.

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 28 September 2003 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I think it was the "cricket" part that wanted explaining.

Anyway, white down coat good, white wool coat bad; four legs good, two legs bad, etc.

― felicity (felicity), Sunday, 28 September 2003 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Cricket jumpers are chunky, other jumpers aren't quite so. It's because cricket players are ouside for a long time, and they really feel the cold.

This autumn I'm wearing the same old clothes as ever.

― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 28 September 2003 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yeah - cricket. For some reason I read 'tennis' as 'cricket' in Mary's post.

Cricket wear!

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 28 September 2003 16:02 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, these socks please.

http://www.boilermag.it/albums/BernhardWillhelm/aab.jpg

― Eriiiik, Sunday, 28 September 2003 18:21 (twenty-two years ago)

That's what I thought they looked like. Are they always white? A white sweater doesn't seem so fall-y to me. It's more summer, country club.

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 29 September 2003 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

White ribbed turtlenecks seem fall-y to me, especially with jeans. I can't really wear turtlenecks, though, (my face is too ovaly, so they just make me look weird) so mine stays buried in bottom of my sweater pile.

― lyra (lyra), Monday, 29 September 2003 02:20 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm dying to get a pair of funky knee high lace-up boots, i saw them all over barcelona but never actually dared to try them on. so now i'm over that but i'm back in new york!

what i aspire to this fall: striped tights! a cloche hat!

― fiofio (fiona), Monday, 29 September 2003 03:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Land's End cordoroy pants.

― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Monday, 29 September 2003 04:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I went shopping this weekend for warm clothes. I got:

First, From H&M:
A long brownish tweedish skirt.
A dark brown turtleneck (I'm giving up on what is chocolate brown and what isn't) that matches said skirt.
A long black corduory skirt that is very thick and warm.

And, my favorite... TALL BOOTS! WOo hoo! I got them at Nordstrom's. They don't have any zippers, just one button each at the top. And they have heels which makes me even taller than Nick, ha ha, but they look SO good. Oh my god do they look good.

Thanks for listenin'. :)

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 29 September 2003 12:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Sarah McAutumn

― Eriik, Monday, 29 September 2003 12:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I bought the Dries Van Noten shoes with the ribbons thingys (see slides 14/62/64 here) to wear to the upcoming fall weddings. I have shoe guilt.

Also I have shrunk: I am now fitting into 16's and 41shoes. After a 2 year glut of not buying anything due to nothing fitting, I have suddenly gone into shopping overdrive. I fear my next visit to Oxford Street.

― marianna, Monday, 29 September 2003 12:45 (twenty-two years ago)

To clarify, Sarah is already taller than me, but the boots make her even taller than me. Not like I'm some giant to start with, which is how I originally read that thread.

― NA (Nick A.), Monday, 29 September 2003 12:51 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't even know where to start with the 'back to school' shopping...there's so many trends that i like. i really like the chic retro thing that is all ladylike. however, i can't handle shoes that aren't comfortable, and i think that's key to the look. any ideas on how i can fake it?

i recently got a pair of knee high boots (just in black) that i can manage for an evening, probably a 2 inch stack heel.

also, i have to say that i'm a dorothy perkins fan. i know it's so uncool, but they do a good job of trendy clothes at a reasonable price, and they do LONG trousers. so clothes for the freakishly tall. woo!

― colette (a2lette), Monday, 29 September 2003 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm jonesing over that one doll's silver boots.

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 29 September 2003 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)

a dries van noten man spats!

http://www.driesvannoten.be/39rac.jpg

does everyone know how they feel like?

― Eriik, Monday, 29 September 2003 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I like that coat, don't understand the "pants" (?), and those shoes/spats make the guy look like he's wearing cross country ski boots. I'm gonna guess that's how they feel.

― Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 29 September 2003 13:07 (twenty-two years ago)

He kinda looks like an unhappy Canadian guy who had to get up at 5:30 AM to drive his RN wife to work, and so I like the look for that.

I must get some stripey sweaters except for that I think I'll have to drop 20 more pounds to I don't look too busty.

― Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 29 September 2003 13:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Thrift store fall fashion acquisitions from this weekend:

1. forest green wool turtleneck
2. cream-&-chocolate wool flannel in a Trip Fontaine 70s style
3. fargo-style fake-fluffy lined goofy-ear-flaps-havin' winter hat

$12 very well spent IMHO.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 29 September 2003 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)

oh yeah, here's something i've been wondering. the jean jacket is still really big in london. i keep thinking it's just a trend and will be over by the time i buy one, but it just keeps going and going. is this a classic now? am i just being tricked by levis and the gap, and i really don't need any more denim in my life?

― colette (a2lette), Monday, 29 September 2003 13:37 (twenty-two years ago)

now wearing!

http://urbanoutfitters.com/images/p66068b.jpg

with grey and black striped tights, prada sport maryjanes, and a red H&M turtleneck! I am fucking as cute as a button!

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 29 September 2003 13:40 (twenty-two years ago)

i am bored at work and want to talk about clothes with girls, so here are my latest buys, in the past 10 days:

1 pair chocolate jumbo-cord trousers from thrift store
1 lovely but expensive beige cable-knit jumper from nicole farhi
1 black spiewak jacket
1 great multicoloured, stripy modern amusement long-sleeve top
5 assorted plain hanes t-shirts

good look, teeny ;)

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 29 September 2003 13:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Ack. I need to buy stuff too. Do you think there are enough people who care to start a "winter coat for Mark" thread?

― Mark C (Mark C), Monday, 29 September 2003 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Term starts at the university next week, and all the freshers are just appearing. They all have much better clothes than me, though, because they've never had to pay rent before: so I am v. jealous. One girl at the pub last night had a really lovely t-shirt, dark blue with white spots blended in, looking just like your dream night sky. Another had an ankle-length purple cord skirt that I'd love to wear.

― caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 29 September 2003 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)

those shoes/spats make the guy look like he's wearing cross country ski boots.I'm gonna guess that's how they feel.

and who needs spats when you got socks? (more comf+colour i guess)

― Eriik, Monday, 29 September 2003 15:43 (twenty-two years ago)

The combo kinda makes him look like a crazy street person! Is that a look people are going for these days?

― Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 29 September 2003 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I must get some stripey sweaters except for that I think I'll have to drop 20 more pounds to I don't look too busty.

I have this same problem with my man-tits.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 29 September 2003 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)

try a knights armour

― Eriik, Monday, 29 September 2003 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I think white is more winter (and summer). It doesn't scream fall (or spring) to me. Unless it's off-white. Off-white is fairly fall-y.

Coat-desiring men: there are a couple of threads on winter coats from past years that are ripe for revival.

Not fall-y at all, but I got a pair of light pink nearly white fishnet stockings to wear with new white boots.

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 29 September 2003 16:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, this is the season I snap out of my sandal summer hippie funk and break out the steel-toed stomp boots. Great for crushing leaves & twigs with, plus dark leather boots + wool sweaters = great match. I'm only sad cuz the linen pants I've accumulated over the summer are gonna have to come out of rotation soon.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 29 September 2003 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

My new coat.

http://www.gap.com/assets/product/Main/gap/ga203496-00p1.jpg

― Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 29 September 2003 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I like that coat. I need shoes because the soles of my docs are splitting--I'd bought new docs but returned them because they just seemed too expensive. I do have a great pair of black boots with a chunky high heel, but I should get to finding something to walk in.

― JuliaA (j_bdules), Monday, 29 September 2003 17:10 (twenty-two years ago)

';';';
coat desiring men + mantits + off-white mary all in one moschino sheep!

http://www.firstview.com/MENfall2003/MOSCHINO/00094.L.JPG

― Eriik, Monday, 29 September 2003 17:10 (twenty-two years ago)

My latest A.P.C. women's collection obsession:

http://www.apc.fr/images/H04/330_a/1M007419293F-GRIS.jpg

― phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 29 September 2003 17:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Very cute. But I wish it came in all-over plaid.

Colette, I think jean jackets are fairly classic. I've been wearing one (not the same one) since I was in eighth grade.

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 29 September 2003 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

phil-too-cool-too-school!

http://www.apc.fr/images/home/home_h04_i1_01.jpg

apc stripey sweater

― Eriik, Monday, 29 September 2003 17:20 (twenty-two years ago)

What are the yellow things coming out of his sleeves?

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 29 September 2003 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

this

http://www.apc.fr/images/H04/550/2CD04324366H-NOIRECRU.jpg

― Eriik, Monday, 29 September 2003 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I like that too, but I need a nice light jacket to put over it. I had a nice women's one, but the girl i was borrowing it from remembered that I had it and took it back. Not that I often wear women's clothes, mind you

― phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 29 September 2003 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm wearing women's linen draw-string pants right now; actually I'd say at least 1/3rd of the pants I own were made for women.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 29 September 2003 17:36 (twenty-two years ago)

the seat makes me look castrated. but i only wore tight womans pinstripe pants once. the hips are weird.

― Eriik, Monday, 29 September 2003 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

stop before its turning in a confessions of ilx cross dressers thread.

― Eriik, Monday, 29 September 2003 17:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm wearing women's jeans right now. size 13

― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Monday, 29 September 2003 18:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Sean C to thread!

― Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 29 September 2003 18:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Stripey sweaters are hot.

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 29 September 2003 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Hahah, yeah, me to thread but really I don't wear women's jeans any more. A number of years ago I found that women's Levi's fit me better than men's, for whatever reason. Now I just buy all my pants fairly baggy and use a belt so it doesn't matter any more.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 29 September 2003 18:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah right.

― Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 29 September 2003 18:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Not exactly fall, but my friend just e-mailed me a pic of the bridesmaid dress for her wedding. She had to find a covering dress because the groom's sister has a whole back of tattoos her parents know not a thing about. I abhor the dress because it looks like a bridesmaid dress and not something I could ever wear again,but I still think it the best one out of 2 other bridesmaid dresses that are now rotting in my closet.
http://www.jimhjelmoccasions.com/dress_db_js/images_lg/jh5935_4935_6935.jpg

not the plaid one

― Carey (Carey), Monday, 29 September 2003 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

That's actually kind of pretty. I mean, seriously, I'd rather wear that than 99.9% of bridesmaids dresses I've ever seen.

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 29 September 2003 23:28 (twenty-two years ago)

vanish, you creatures of the night! ( i rather have phil-two's APC skirts)

― Eriik, Tuesday, 30 September 2003 05:48 (twenty-two years ago)

now wearing!

Kenneth Cole black-and-white chevron-stripe split-turtleneck wool sweater with Kenneth Cole black wool skirt with leather detail. Knee-high Gucci motorcycle boots (this is probably my swankiest work outfit).

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

For a bridesmaid's dress, it's not bad. Kind of goth, but unfortunately I've seen (and worn) much much worse.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not even going to link to that atrocity that I was stuffed into this past year.

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm wearing black tights today even though they're very wintery. But I am also wearing an auburn and black vintage 2002 Target dress. (ha ha, I namechecked Target)

JuliaA, Walking is for plebians!

― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 16:02 (twenty-two years ago)

How have I missed this thread?

I really want a shawl Mary. If I can't find one I may have to re-learn knitting.

I also bought a cool brown/ cream tweed suit (check one autumn trend) with a 60's style boxy jacket and an A-line mini skirt (check two autumn trend) . It only cost £11 from a charity hop down the road.

I have also rediscovered some knee high red platform boots I had as a teenager. They are original 70's and they rock. They've been languising at my mum's house for far too long.

― Anna (Anna), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)

now wearing chocolate, black, grey and fawn DKNY sweater, dark blue GStar jeans and brown leather nike dunks with the blackl spiewak jacket and my fave spotty boxers from the gap that are exactly the same colourscheme as the kompakt total 4 compilation!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)

phil-two, Would your parents really buy you $1100 gloves?!
Do you have a pic of them?

Haha! I WISH my parents would really buy me $1100 gloves, but no..

http://media.condenet.com/style/view/75/58/100095875.jpg

― phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 18:07 (twenty-two years ago)

same stuff, just more layers of green & brown.
plus hooded sweatshirts, leather jackets & my hair is tall again

― kephm, Tuesday, 30 September 2003 18:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Until you have had to wear this, I don't want to hear anything about ugly bridesmaid dresses.

http://recollections.biz/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/web2311peach%20collage.jpg

WITH MATCHING PARASOL.

― luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 19:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Did you get to ride into the ceremony on a unicorn?

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm wearing a lot of burnt orange lately. Orange sweaters, orange t-shirts. Looks good with khakis and browns.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

That would have made it much cooler. No, but I DID get to walk down the aisle with brother Bubba (I shit you not) who made allusions to taking me for a ride in his truck during the reception.

― luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Luna, you did not actually wear that, come on now.

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 19:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yes ma'am, I did. Only it was lavender.

I looked like an easter egg that fucked Barney.

With a parasol. DID I MENTION THE PARASOL?

― luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

At least it wasn't that orange color, you'd look like the Great Pumpkin vomited some doilies.

Damn. Did they do your hair and makeup like a demented version of Drea DeMatteo the way I got stuck with?

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)

My friend tried to make us all wear the Scarlett O'Hara hairdo, plus shiny lavender eyeshadow, but we said fuck that noise and all did our own.

A narrow escape.

― luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm gonna get married in a Viking outfit and expect my bridesmaids to dress up as German hauswenches.

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Back to serious notes, I really want to get new knee high boots. In red and white and black and maybe silver (not all in one shoe). Recommendations please. I found some awesome ones at, of all places, JC Penney's online, but they've apparently sold out of all of them in all colors in any size even kind of near my shoe size, it was ridiculous.

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I covet Felicity's stretchy chocolate brown ones.

― luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Luna, I am so, so, sorry. At least parasols are handy. Good thing about winter weddings, we don't do the pastel.

No, I agree that dress is on the good side. I just hate spending hundreds of dollars on clothes I won't be able to wear again unless someone asks me to the prom.

― Carey (Carey), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 20:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I am feeling The Loneliness of the Long Boot - less Runner.

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 21:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Ally, how about (just off the top of my head): 9 West or Aldo? Are you looking for a high-heely kind? Here the 9W selection; they call Felicity-style boots "Candide."

http://www.ninewest.com/s;NW_JSESSIONID=16H8oc4vDrpaMhZhZsBFxlw9A1mmsJGyylAHB3Skmpzc4bGInaY1!760658720?namespace=catalog&origin=main.jsp&event=pg.shoe&cid=1039

Zara sometimes has nice boots and Banana Rebublic maybe? Or J Crew? What do the JCP ones look like?

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)

No no no, you can't buy boots from those places! You all are in New York City! I have an excuse. :) There must be some great boutiques with reasonably affordable stuff..

― daria g (daria g), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 22:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Carey, I don't know how to say this but...um..will you go to the prom with me?

The JCP boots just look like regular skinny-shaft knee high 4-inch heel stilettos but they came in great colors and on sale for only like $40!!! But none left :(

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 23:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Great boutiques check. Reasonably affordable uncheck. Plus Ally wants four pairs! I'm sure she'll find something good though.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 01:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I should stop being so greedy. Which white boots did you get Mary?

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 01:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I got mine from a label called Irregular Choice -- they carry the label at Urban Outfitters but I got mine from the Mini Mini Mart on Bedford Ave. Calf-length seems as high as they go though -- they do have a shiny gold ankle pair, but no silver.

How about something like this Ally?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1830000/images/_1832891_kylie_onstage2.jpg

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 01:30 (twenty-two years ago)

That's exactly what I want!!!

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 01:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Too bad they don't make dolls with thigh-high boots.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 01:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I think I looked at the boots that Mary bought.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 02:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Are fishnets in this year? I hope so, because I've stocked up. (har har)

― Kim (Kim), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 02:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I like fishnets, especially in pastel colors -- more of the virgin/whore dichotomy.

Don't let it suddenly become winter!

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 12:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm pretending Kylie doesn't have a torso (which isn't too hard with that photo), so I'll feel better about myself.

Too bad I didn't win the Mega Millions lotto yesterday. $150 million would have helped with my fall clothes lust.

― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 13:05 (twenty-two years ago)

i want balaclava helmets to be in fashion

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 13:34 (twenty-two years ago)

How does fall clothes lust differ from clothes lust at any other time of year?

― caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 13:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Balaclava helmets are all the rage right now among the burglar-hipster set.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Winter fashion is great though!

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I had an annoying shopping experience at the weekend. I wanted to go shopping, but had no money. None at all. "You have £0 available" and so on; and I wasn't sure when I would be able to get some. Nonetheless, a friend wanted to get some gloves, so everybody trooped along to Armstrongs, a big vintage clothes store. They had a *lovely* pair of light blue corduroy trousers, in my size, for only a tenner, but I didn't even have that much money available. I'm sure they'll have gone by next saturday, when I next get a chance to go there.

― caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 13:51 (twenty-two years ago)

hey ally i mailed you

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 13:51 (twenty-two years ago)

and the balaclava helmet can only be one with the whole face showing otherwise they're just not funny enough

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)

How does fall clothes lust differ from clothes lust at any other time of year?

It taps into that atavistic back-to-school shopping gene. Plus fall clothes look better than any other kind of clothes.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Everyone seems very fashionable here. Alas, I am not. I have no clue and hate hate hate shopping. Perhaps you all could help me out in the watch department?

I have a somewhat significant birthday/anniversary/x-mas coming up and am thinking I will ask for a respectable watch as a present. Not Rolex or Cartier or anything, but something stainless steel (or whatever is a silvery color) and very classic and classy looking. I have no idea what sorts of brands are well made and classy. Any suggestions? Something in the $500 US range? Seriously, Rolex is the only watchmaker name I can think of. And that Tag Heur or whatever kind.

― quincie, Wednesday, 1 October 2003 17:42 (twenty-two years ago)

watches

A Tag Heuer is a nice stainless steel watch in the range you want. In fact, I'm wearing one right now.

― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 18:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmmm... I bet felicity linked at least one of these! But anyway:

WATCHES - c/d
more @ watches
pocket watches
Nick Southall's search for a watch
& DR C
Paul Frank Watch

― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 18:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't do fashion. I just decided that X2, cuz I'm getting fat(ter). I am pondering flared jeans and maybe something corded. And I really want some boots, but they need to not kill the hell out of my annoyingly flat feet. (I have some great looking ankle boots, but if real walking's involved, I feel pain.)

Now to show my fashion ignorance... right here, I have this fabulous top labelled 'Western Connection' that is several years old. I think mom bought it. It's dark purple/maroon, close fitting and has a criss-cross effect, like lots of small windows or something. I loved the thing but it grew a couple of holes some time ago. Anyone seen these for sale anywhere?

― ChrissieH (chrissie1068), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 19:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd like an Agnes B watch, but it's kinda pricey.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 19:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yes, thank you for links. I tried to do a search but failed, as per usual. I'm miserable at the shopping thing, be it internet or otherwise. I'm kind of hoping that this can be the last watch I buy (or am given) ever ever ever, so I'm feeling some pressure to make a solid choice. Mostly I'd like something that will not break for a zillion years,will be immune to any fashion vagaries, and can span casual-work-fancy wear.

I saw a Baume & Mercier watch that I kind of liked -- is that a reputable watchmaker?

― quincie, Wednesday, 1 October 2003 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I want these but they are not in my size :( :(

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 2 October 2003 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Those bastards! I think we've had this talk before Ally, but I wear a size 11! Blah!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 2 October 2003 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Sarah, you're an 11? You should get these boots, they are adorable and they come in a size 11.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Thursday, 2 October 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

how can you not get shoes in your size? i only have on friend with that problem and he has size 18 feet

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 2 October 2003 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I wear a 9.5 or a 10! The funny thing is like every fashion model ever wears a 9.5 or bigger. This is because they're all like 6' tall. It is pretty much impossible to be that huge and not also have big feet, especially when you're quite a lanky sort. What do they stick on the models' feet since the designers have no interest in making shoes for them?

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 2 October 2003 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)

skis

― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 2 October 2003 16:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I think I will maybe get these in the white and the black.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 2 October 2003 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

newport news carries really cheap stuff, they will hurt your feet until they fall apart.

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 2 October 2003 16:57 (twenty-two years ago)

That's fine by me.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 2 October 2003 17:05 (twenty-two years ago)

That's what I thought, yet I felt the need to say it.

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 2 October 2003 17:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I want a stripey sweater, and I can't find one I like anywhere.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 2 October 2003 17:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I basically destroy every pair of shoes ever within 6 months so it's all ok. I'm used to being in pain, also.

luna, you should go to Urban Outfitters, they had a couple nice ones in the window.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 2 October 2003 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Also a stripey scarf.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 2 October 2003 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Ally, you must get those black thigh-highs; just force your feet into them!

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 2 October 2003 18:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe I should just kind of cut my toes off? Are they necessary?

I shouldn't be buying anything since I just bought a pleated denim skirt and a Flashdance style blue off the shoulder sweatshirt today, plus replenished my supply of thigh highs finally (stockings not boots). Victoria's Secret is like the world's most heinous store, I think at least 4 different people (including a man!!) asked if I wanted a "free bra fitting". I felt like saying, I've had my breasts for years, I think I know where they fit now, thanks though.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 2 October 2003 18:50 (twenty-two years ago)

That always kinda creeps me out, too, Ally.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 2 October 2003 19:26 (twenty-two years ago)

They're just so pushy there. This one girl kept following me around as I was CLEARLY just trying to decide what color shirt I wanted, asking me REPEATEDLY if anyone happened to mention the Very Sexy Bra Collection when I was downstairs. I ended up like snapping at her that, yes, someone has mentioned it, and that someone is YOU. I feel kind of bad cos I know it's just what they're ordered to do by the VS brass but jesus christ, what in the fuck? You gotta ask me four times? Did anyone happen to mention FUCK OFF?

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 2 October 2003 19:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Hi! I work for Victoria's Secret. I'm sorry you have not appreciated our fitting service. Please be aware that our staff offer a highly professional service and that 46% of all women are wearing the wrong size brassiere. Drop me an email and I would be happy to arrange a fitting for you.

― B.R. Allbright, Thursday, 2 October 2003 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

When I email you, will you reply asking me if I've heard about the Very Sexy Bra Collection?

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 2 October 2003 19:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Ally, have you heard about VS' Very Sexy Bra collection?

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 2 October 2003 20:06 (twenty-two years ago)

ARRGH.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 2 October 2003 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah I just annoyed the crap out of myself.

I'll kick me.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 2 October 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

What kind of bra collection is not "Very Sexy" anyway, isn't that what they're meant to be?

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 2 October 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Not only do VS employees follow you around they store, they even follow you around the internet!

― Nicolars (Nicole), Thursday, 2 October 2003 20:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Only the ones that fit boobs smaller than your head. One you get past about a DD, I think they're less sexy and more hydraulics.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 2 October 2003 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Thigh-high tights are a start. Have you ever noticed how sometimes, when you wear dark-colored knee-socks it can look like you are wearing boots? I hope this works with your thigh-highs. But really, if you don't get thigh-high boots my life is not worth living. Before I thought silver knee-highs were the way for you to go, but now I see, with those Speigels, that it is black thigh-high.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 2 October 2003 21:00 (twenty-two years ago)

My 'fall' fashion will = this.

And possibly a home bubble perm.

I kind of think of thigh high boots as not really worn in the mainstream fashion arena...

― Sarah (starry), Thursday, 2 October 2003 21:12 (twenty-two years ago)

ILX girls massive changing that, one day at a time.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 2 October 2003 21:27 (twenty-two years ago)

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/MMPH/226191.jpg

― Carey (Carey), Thursday, 2 October 2003 21:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Hott.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 2 October 2003 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Vinyl Stockings

http://www.coololdstuff.com/pictures/bootstocking.jpg

― Carey (Carey), Thursday, 2 October 2003 21:40 (twenty-two years ago)

My new Fall wardrobe

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 2 October 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Jane Fonda is owning this thread

http://www.draconic.ndirect.co.uk/jfklute.jpg

― Carey (Carey), Thursday, 2 October 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

There was this fantastic pair of sparkly silver leather thigh-high boots in the last Vogue, but since they were Chanel I bet they were about two million dollars. Well, maybe not two million dollars but well out of my price range all the same.

I'm really debating whether I should buy those Pucci wellingtons. They're so cute, and I do have a coupon code for 10% off but I probably should be saving my money for something more sensible.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Thursday, 2 October 2003 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Vinyl stockings?! This thead gets better and better.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 2 October 2003 21:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Vinyl stockings! Silver thigh high boots!!! Argh when will the madness end and when will I have ALL OF THIS!

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 2 October 2003 23:54 (twenty-two years ago)

http://a248.e.akamai.net/7/513/2006/622/www.polo.com/images/products/110_LL_31084_2786.jpg

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 3 October 2003 00:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Ok, I just checked out all the necklaces etc. on Urban Outfitters website and I'm scared or upset or something (see, I make that kind of stuff as a hobby or for extra $) because it's all UGLY AS HELL. Big fake pearls? Are they kidding?

― Kim (Kim), Friday, 3 October 2003 00:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I would advise against the Pucci wellingtons. Pucci and wellington just don't seem to go together.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 3 October 2003 00:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm seriously thinking of getting a pair of those Pucci boots. trouble is, can I really justify spending $100 on a pair of boots when I have three pair already.. and credit card bills..

― daria g (daria g), Friday, 3 October 2003 01:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Alas, I am only attracted to things that are impractical and silly. Like those boots.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Friday, 3 October 2003 01:32 (twenty-two years ago)

On second look they seem kinda cute. Do we like ponchos?

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 3 October 2003 01:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I like them, but I have a feeling that if I wore one I'd end up looking like a Sesame Street character. But they do look nice on other people.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Friday, 3 October 2003 01:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Kim I was just at Urban Outfitters today and you're right. The jewelery there is hideous, it looks like something out of those trunks you'd see in catalogs for little girls, "Princess Dress Up Kits" or something.

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 3 October 2003 01:43 (twenty-two years ago)

no ponchos.

― teeny (teeny), Friday, 3 October 2003 01:50 (twenty-two years ago)

It was really nice a few months ago! I'm seriously afraid to go to the actual store now - I'm hoping it's just some foolish purchashers aberration and not a larger trend. I just don't think I can handle those Barbara Bush super pearls a second time around.

― Kim (Kim), Friday, 3 October 2003 02:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I liked their summer jewelry selection, but now they don't even seem to be stocking Fred Flare.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 3 October 2003 02:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey, maybe we should trade stuff. Anyone have a super icy pastel green sweater they don't want? :) For some reason, thrift stores NEVER seem to have any good frosty colors.

Lately I've found a fab lemon yellow vintage tweed suit, the skirt needs a little repair, let's see if I get around to that before it goes out of style. :) At least the jacket is wearable. And a tweed swing coat.. umm.. I am realizing my apartment is a total costume shop at this point.

― daria g (daria g), Friday, 3 October 2003 02:52 (twenty-two years ago)

The BBC weighs in on this dangerous trend:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/womanshour/15_09_03/thursday/info4.shtml

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 3 October 2003 04:04 (twenty-two years ago)

fall fashion - the girls thread :-(((

― Erik, Friday, 3 October 2003 09:30 (twenty-two years ago)

(I might be a hippie because I can i.d. "When push comes to shove, you're afraid of love." I might not be a hippie because it might be true.)

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 3 October 2003 11:58 (twenty-two years ago)

this thread is so goth

― half jack, Friday, 3 October 2003 12:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I have on midcalf lace up boots with 4 inch heels today. These are NOT the Spiegel thigh high boots unfortunately but they're still pretty cool.

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 3 October 2003 12:37 (twenty-two years ago)

i need new boots. being male, ive got limited choices
harley davidson/caterpillar boot
doc marten
clunky wannbe gene simmons spacegoth boots
combat boots

ok, so i've got four choices, but you know what, i already own all foor of these. i want new choices!

― half jack, Friday, 3 October 2003 12:42 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.deliriumclothing.com/kawaii/images/velvet_armwarmers.jpg

my gf wears these..blk velvet
i prefer the stripey ones

― half jack, Friday, 3 October 2003 12:53 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.russaudio.co.uk/images/5wpp.jpg

― half jack, Friday, 3 October 2003 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)

what is that? a portable acoustic amp?

okay, who else thinks i should get me an official USN-issue Pea Coat?

http://www.blueskyfashion.com/bomber/cooper-leather-jackets/5810w-thumb.jpg

― Kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 3 October 2003 13:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I do Kingfish. I own two of them.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 3 October 2003 14:25 (twenty-two years ago)

my friend's only fall/winter coat is his father's USN pea coat circa 1971. the buttons occasionally need to be sewn back on, but other than that it is still going strong and looks fantastic with the collar up all navy-like. only drawback is that it weighs no shit eight million pounds. upshot is that you get a weight-lifting workout simply wearing/carrying it around.

― quincie, Friday, 3 October 2003 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

and they keep you nice and toasty.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 3 October 2003 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Half Jack, how about Camper boots?

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 3 October 2003 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

(I might be a hippie because I can i.d. "When push comes to shove, you're afraid of love." I might not be a hippie because it might be true.)

Grateful Dead - When Push Comes to Shove

― luna (luna.c), Friday, 3 October 2003 16:13 (twenty-two years ago)

hippie!

― Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 3 October 2003 16:22 (twenty-two years ago)

No Dead references please, this is a FASHION thread ;-).

Ally, you should check the VS website despite their remora approach to customer service, their boots look good, the catalogue sent to my sister seemed to have multicoloured boots and they were doing an online discount.

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 3 October 2003 16:40 (twenty-two years ago)

These are $149 from VS

http://www2.victoriassecret.com/images/prodlgvw/V124281.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 3 October 2003 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

That poor woman has lost her fingers pulling them on!

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 3 October 2003 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Whoa. I didn't notice that.

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 3 October 2003 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I have to have them.

― luna (luna.c), Friday, 3 October 2003 18:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Ally, if I were you I wouldn't get white boots, bc I am wearing them today, and I feel kinda, er, retarded.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 3 October 2003 18:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmmm. How so?

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 3 October 2003 18:44 (twenty-two years ago)

A pair of gold boots would be cool too, if only so I could be The Girl in Gold Boots.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Friday, 3 October 2003 18:45 (twenty-two years ago)

White shoes show up the dirt < /my gran>

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 3 October 2003 18:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I like the concept of gold but not the execution.

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 3 October 2003 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

knee(or over) high boots = always classick - hopefully.

― Kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 3 October 2003 18:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not sure, maybe it's the fact that I dressed in autumnal trad style and then just decided, hey! I think I'll wear my white boots today, instead of the choco-brown ones that were made to go with my outfit. Also, they have the tiniest little kitten heels, but they make a lot of noise. I don't like my shoes to make noise.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 3 October 2003 18:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm all about the shoes making noise, big scary clack clack clack noises of the heel hitting the pavement but that's cos I'm sick in the head. I think you should wear your white boots with a black miniskirt.

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 3 October 2003 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, and my heather-gray tights are all wrong too. I should've planned this better.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 3 October 2003 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I used to have silver Doc Marten boots because it seemed like a good idea at the time of purchase, but every time I wore them I felt like I was trying to dress like a comic book superhero or a wrestler. My silver trainers are working out OK though. :)

Did you see the NYT piece on the return of grunge? Is it time for that already? I thrifted this surplus jacket with a Sub Pop patch on it 'cause I was thinking, hell, nobody is wearing THAT anymore. grr.

Mary, your problem is the one I have when I try and mess with chocolate brown & colored tights and such.. something always feels off though I can never tell what, and it distracts me all day long.

― daria g (daria g), Friday, 3 October 2003 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I have to hand it to gareth for making brown seem so effortless. It's not.

― felicity (felicity), Friday, 3 October 2003 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I try to avoid brown cos I never know what to do with it.

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 3 October 2003 19:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Men should always avoid brown.

Brown, never in town.

― Skottie, Friday, 3 October 2003 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I wear quite a bit of brown. Mixing different shades of it (cream, fawn and chocolate) is the key.

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 3 October 2003 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

my shows today are brown.

as is my belt. and my hair.

― Kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 3 October 2003 20:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't own hardly anything in brown or navy because all my shoes are black and nearly everything else I own is black too. It's kind of a self-fulfilling fashion rule.

― teeny (teeny), Friday, 3 October 2003 20:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I am a fan of silver but only in appliances. Now that I have a new PowerBook all my shit is silver except for the monitor speakers. I think brown is easier for guys because our bottom halves are more easily taken care of - jeans or khakis? dress pants? unless you bust out something navy blue or black brown looks good with about anything on a dude.

My fall fashion = LL Bean.

― TOMBOT, Friday, 3 October 2003 23:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I bought some nice Emporio Armani shoes today.

― Sean (Sean), Friday, 3 October 2003 23:18 (twenty-two years ago)

d'oh. I want Armani.. waaah.. ;) Perhaps that would be key to being able to wear brown - a pair of good brown shoes, which I don't have.

So, for those in more fashion-oriented cities than my own.. are people actually wearing the mod style these days?

I like the Barbarella thigh-high boots but I think those are the kind of wardrobe item it's hard to get away with unless they are very, very expensive!

― daria g (daria g), Saturday, 4 October 2003 00:21 (twenty-two years ago)

i need a winter hat. after spending my whole life in canada without one, i think it's about time i got one. any suggestions? i'm not really a hat person, but i want something cute that will also keep me warm.

also, what colour shoes should i wear with navy blue pinstripe trousers? i bought the trousers for work, but i don't think i have any suitable shoes. maybe beige?! help me, fashion people.

― sand.y, Saturday, 4 October 2003 00:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Daria: I didn't say my Armani shoes were brown, but indeed they are. Dark brown suede and black rubber trim on the toe.

― Sean (Sean), Saturday, 4 October 2003 01:34 (twenty-two years ago)

moi = tellement jalouse !

With navy blue.. can't you wear black? I think black is perfectly fine with navy blue. Sharp, even.

Barring that: bright fuschia! Seriously, you can wear lots of oddly colored accessories with navy blue which is awesome, so I say, fuschia (I have ballet flats in this color, it works, surprisingly)..
Also, lemon yellow could be quite nice if yr wearing a white top.

― daria g (daria g), Saturday, 4 October 2003 03:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought it couldn't be done, but I saw the lovely N---- the other day in black pants, a black apron-ish over-skirt, and a navy-blue cabled sweater. Tres bella! But I think it is important to have black(-ish) hair to weigh out the combination.

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 4 October 2003 04:41 (twenty-two years ago)

White-boot template

http://www.lookonline.com/graphics/free3.jpg

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 4 October 2003 05:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Tammy Faye Starlite

http://www.chromeoxide.com/images/gall09b.jpg

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 4 October 2003 05:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Dude, are those Victoria's Secret models hanging out in the P Funk mothership? wicked!
http://www.gemmaedario.it/bootsy_collins-fender.jpg

― daria g (daria g), Saturday, 4 October 2003 06:28 (twenty-two years ago)

(Maybe I should have gotten the white Casi Casi boots instead...)

http://www.camper.es/web/en/basica.asp?flsid=106

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 5 October 2003 06:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I bought some really yellow wellingtons from Urban Outfitters yesterday and wore them with black tights, a black mini, and a black shirt. It HAD rained earlier that day so I guess I wasn't totally off. I don't know if I will try this look ever again.

― Carey (Carey), Sunday, 5 October 2003 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I think that sounds great Carey!

I just got back from Target, where I went crazy with footwear purchases:

over-the-knee multicolored striped socks
red argyle knee socks
grey knee socks with diagonal black stripes
maroon tights with small black diamond design
light grey tights with delicate black floral design
grey and white wool/angora legwarmers!

― teeny (teeny), Sunday, 5 October 2003 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I was just there yesterday looking for a pair of those Mizrahi striped long gloves in black and white. Sadly, there were none left. but the stuff wasn't as nice as I had thought it would be, anyway.

hmm.. fancy socks. Maybe I should go back.

― daria g (daria g), Sunday, 5 October 2003 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Carey's look was swell. Oh, Target, when will you come to NYC? There is a temporary Mizrahi warehouse somewhere around 50th st. but I just want el regular Target.

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 5 October 2003 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Ok ladies, after scrolling this thread and finding that you guys know a TON about fashion and could very well help out with a certain predicament, I will tell you -- I NEED HELP!

I need to get a black dress for an event I'm going to be participating in in December, and I'm totally lost! I haven't worn a dress in about four years and I seriously need help here.

http://deanna.ladyinterference.com/ilx/melookingdown.jpg

The above is a good example of what my body type is like. (Is it any wonder that I've never even been inside a Victoria's Secret store? *laughs*) Anyway, I have to have a black dress, and I would really appreciate ideas on what you might think would look good. It has to have a slightly conservative sort of look to it because of where it's going to be held (inside a church), but I'd kinda like to make it have that certain something special to it.

Mary, why on Earth would you want a Target store in NYC? Targets are for people who don't have fashionable boutiques every half block or so, you know, like the people who reside in the middle of the country!

― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 5 October 2003 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I would say that a sheath dress (pref cut on the bias) is flattering on nearly every body type save possibly the spectacularly curvy. If your church frowns on exposed arms or if you're not comfortable with a sleeveless dress, you can throw on a nice blazer or cardigan. Sheath dresses manage to be stylish, conservative, and a bit sexy all at once. Mizrahi has one in black at Target but the fabric is icky polyester. Might look okay though.

― teeny (teeny), Sunday, 5 October 2003 21:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I was going to suggest the same thing as Teeny just did. A word of warning, I got this type of dress a few years ago for a function, sleeveless, empire waste, and while I absolutely loved it, I haven't worn it since (no occasion to). I noticed that a lot of others at the function made do with separates, so if you can't find a dress, I'm sure you could get by with a nice black skirt or pants and shirt. This way, you might be able to wear the things more than once. Also, if its chilly you could wear a shawl or a pashmina (do people still wear these?)

Re Target: I guess I'm just a repressed suburbanite at heart.

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 6 October 2003 06:30 (twenty-two years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00009P8BP.16._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Ally, these boots are at Target for $23.

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 6 October 2003 12:35 (twenty-two years ago)

ooh and they have free shipping! link!

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 6 October 2003 12:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Re: Target

Also some of us are broke. In fact most of us are.

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 6 October 2003 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)

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― teeny (teeny), Monday, 6 October 2003 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I know fuck-all about fashion, but here's what I want: I want a long-sleeve button-up shirt I can wear with jeans or whatever. But I don't want a dress shirt, because I don't want to have to tuck it in and look like a dork and I don't want to look like I'm wearing a billowing skirt-shirt. So I want a button-up long-sleeve shirt that is an appropriate length for a not-tall (5 feet 8 inches) person to wear untucked. And so far I can only find these at thrift stores by trying on every damn shirt until I find one that fits the way I want it to.
I also want a stripey sweater.

― NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 13:19 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread makes me feel like I come from another planet. Sigh.

I know it's autumn when: I go to the nearest low-price utility clothes outlet (Suzy has weaned me off Primark and sent me packing off to Uniqlo) and purchase 3 new turtlenecks, in dark colours. (I prefer black or navy, but this year, I made the startling addition of sky blue!). I also got some utility non-jeans work-sort-of trousers in colours to match.

My major purchase this year was: A SUIT. It is black, with pinstripes.

HSA bought me a black leather suit-style jacket at a charity shop. It was £4. Can't fault that. Oh, and I also obtained some new boots, they're sort of very clunky Chelsea type boots, but a lot sturdier.

See! I can participate in this fashion thing! Hah!

― kate (kate), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)

today I am wearing a ribbed turtleneck, leather knee-length skirt, and LEGWARMERS! Will the midwest office environment be able to handle it?

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 11:13 (twenty-two years ago)

So I want a button-up long-sleeve shirt that is an appropriate length for a not-tall (5 feet 8 inches) person to wear untucked.

The Gap has shirts like these.

― bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 11:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Not in my office, Teeny! I wish I could get away with something like that.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 11:49 (twenty-two years ago)

teeny, what kind of shoes are you wearing with the legwarmers? and are you wearing other tights or something under them?

― colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 12:06 (twenty-two years ago)

black prada maryjanes, bare legs otherwise. I'm thinking of taking a picture because I don't know whether I should have them pulled up or scrunched around my ankles. Is there a rule on this?

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 12:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay, scrunched, definitely scrunched. I've only seen two people in the office so far and one got down on his hands and knees to peer at the legwarmers, saying, 'what the fuck are those?' Point made, buddy. The other person is used to my fashion by now.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 12:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Legwarmers?

I'm sorry, I'm not being rude, but WHY?!?!?

File under "things from the 80s that were REALLY UGLY the first time round, why would people want to wear them again?"

They are SO unflattering to the female leg - i.e. they hide the curves that make them look good, and render your lower leg a shapeless, fat and sausage-like tube.

The ONLY reason I could possibly see for wearing them is if you lived in a place with a draft, and yer ankles were unprotected. Apart from that - sheesh. I don't get it. Why not bring back spats?

Some fashions were abandonned as BAD IDEAS the first time round and should not be revived. Leg Warmers are one of them.

Sorry, Teeny, please don't take offense. I just really think they're a useless article of clothing.

― kate (kate), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 12:38 (twenty-two years ago)

They were cute!

― Nicolars (Nicole), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 12:45 (twenty-two years ago)

They were not cute. They were FUGLY!!!

God, I hated legwarmers. I haven't worn a pair since I was 13. Never again.

See also: moonboots, dropped waist minidresses and asymetrical tops.

― kate (kate), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 12:50 (twenty-two years ago)

(Oh my god, I am actually having a discussion about fashion. See, I'm not from Mars. I can do it!)

― kate (kate), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 12:54 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.ekretek.com/images/djarum.gif

― half jack, Wednesday, 8 October 2003 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)

But Kate, don't you realize that 90% of your body heat is lost through your ankles?

Oh wait.

I never did legwarmers the first time around, and thought it would be fun. These are delicate little angora things though--not the chunky acrylic monstrosities of the 80s, but yeah, they're pretty useless. No offense taken!

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)

So they're like socks, but without feet?

For example, if you had little tiny shoes (for wearing with stockings or pantyhose, rather than wearing with big thick chunky socks) then you could have the "look" of knee high socks without crushing your feet?

OK, I get it then. I'd wear them up, not scrunched.

I like knee socks, they keep yer legs warm when wearing shorts. Thigh socks (or proper stockings) are even better, but I can never get any long enough for my legs and fat enough for my thighs. :-(

― kate (kate), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Kate, have you tried the ones from Victoria's Secret? They cost too much money but they stay up and don't like "dent in" on my thigh fat at all. Also they have lace tops that come in ridiculous bright colors like whore red and Miami Vice turquoise and Jem pink.

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't actually seen a Victoria's Secret catalogue in about ten years! But I did order thigh high stockings from them about ten years ago - they fit OK, but they were really see-through. (Ditto the Marks and Spencers ones that I tried) I don't like see-through nylons - I like my stockings and my tights really thick and dark. Cause my legs are always covered in bruises no matter what I do.

― kate (kate), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

So are mine, I've just decided not to care! But they don't really have any dark thigh highs, you're right. They also don't have fishnet thigh highs that I can tell by browsing through the store, despite the fact that the window mannequin is wearing them--wtf is that?

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

For a while, I was cutting the tops off of past-their-prime (read: I grew out of) thick black tights/leggings and wearing them as stockings, rolling them down (for that 20s flapper look) if they started to fray. That worked. But then they kept getting lost in the wash.

― kate (kate), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I have belatedly come to understand the legwarmer revival (not that I have any...yet). The trick is to wear with a skirt and nice shoes, a la T., then they look like socks, as mentioned above. The way I wore them in junior high (tight jeans, purple legwarmers, sneakers) is definitely not go this time around. I think they should be scrunched to mid-calf, though I am not exactly sure about this.

I fear I'm letting fall fashion pass me by. The strange weather fluctuations are throwing me off my game.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 18:04 (twenty-two years ago)

That method of wearing them kind of makes them look like Japanese school girl huge socks.

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 18:11 (twenty-two years ago)

(It's no wonder I learned this method from J-magazines.)

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 18:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I had one pair of legwarmers when I was in grade school, they were lavendar with silver and white unicorns on them -- possibly the tweest item of clothing ever produced.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 18:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I failed to buy shoes which were obviously meant for me the other day. Not only was there only ONE pair left in MY SIZE but they were also in the SALE! They were shiny black with a yellow BOW across the top with kitten heels. It still hurts.

But instead I guess I will just look out for some black knee boots. This year I might buy the FURRY ones (not Jordan stylee - fur on the INSIDE)! A bit like fun wellies for growed ups. Speaking of which I want to get some wellies too.

But right now it is more urgent and key that I get a new cuddly stuffed animal which I can call WELLINGTON.

― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)

OH, I miss my ILXors.

Hi, Kate!

Way upthread, Mary mentioned dark knee socks... Well, anyway, I bought a couple new pairs of new socks the other day and wore my dark brown ones with my dark brown skirt and they looked fabulous.

Today is very un-fall like as it's in the 70s outside, but it's freezing cold in the office, so whatever.

― Sarah MCLusky (coco), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the reason why not many Brits post is that it's called autumn.

Also because the current fashion in London is potato sacks and string vests (haha Vicky Fowler).

― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah I'm surprised nobody has posted a Mark E Smith picture yet.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I wonder if I could wear legwarmers.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

If you want to be considered completely ridiculous, then yes, Ned.

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

:-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

"Autumn Fashion" doesn't have the same alliterative ring.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 20:03 (twenty-two years ago)

(Starry's shoes sound cute-as-a-button. Can you go back and get them?)

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I am trying to knit leg warmers but, uggg, double pointed needles (and circular needles are too big grrr).

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned, it is U&K that you wear some legwarmers with those shorts. Preferably on your trip, so that you could be our style ambassador.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Hurrah!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 21:07 (twenty-two years ago)

finally! here they are!

http://www.starstarstar.net/legwarmers.jpg

really yeah they are foolish but I had fun wearing them.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 22:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I hope this proves fertile ground.

http://www.widemedia.com/fashionuk/news/2000/05/05/legwarmers.jpg
http://www.spiderfuel.net/nydancewear/images/store/caticons/Legwarm.JPG
http://www.elabee.org/img/bylo/green.jpg
http://daninjapan.com/1.16/fashion.jpg

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 22:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't believe in fashion no's. I only believe in fashion why nots.

Except for wearing business suits with those chinese mesh/embroidered slippers. cansomeoneexplainthattome?

― Carey (Carey), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 23:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Nope, but in Washington DC you'll see plenty of business suits with sensible white sneakers on all the federal government workers taking the metro.. :)

I have a pair of dark, dark purple legwarmers with a bit of silver sparkle; they are really tall.. they seem to work super w/these black pointy kitten heel shoes (pulled over the back of the shoe) and a short skirt, except I can't really wear such a thing to class and be taken at all seriously and the shoes are too posh to walk around all day in.. But actually the legwarmers are wonderful under jeans in New England winter weather, every extra layer helps.

I got a fashionable haircut today and I HATE it. Why do hair stylists always ignore what I ask for? I feel like a total jackass and have plans to get it toned down first thing tomorrow morning because if I have to spend the long weekend looking like I have a growing-out fashion mullet, it will be very unpleasant for all of my friends and anyone else who crosses my path, I think.

― daria g (daria g), Thursday, 9 October 2003 00:02 (twenty-two years ago)

kitten heels are U&K when wearing legwarmers, I wish I had a pair.

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 9 October 2003 00:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Another important '80s style update re leggings: This time around they should be worn under skirts or dresses, not as pants in their own rights.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 9 October 2003 04:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Here is my report from following last Time Out NY's guide to boutique shopping in Chinatown. (It won't be up on the Web for a month or so.) The stores were not as cheap and fashion-y as the article led me to believe, definitely no cheaper than H*M. The upside: I didn't buy anything/spend any money. So in order:

Beauty, Mott St. : Great spiked heels knee high white leather boots, but the price, $139, not so expenisve, but not super cheap either. Tops were like $49 for crappy little bits of polyester, nothing exciting. Coats were pretty good and fairly cheap.

My Collections, Bayard St: Worse than Beauty, but some nice cute shoes, especially if it was summer. Beauty also had some cute shoes with cut-out hearts. Otherwise, nothing...and not so cheap either...

Yan Yan Fashion, New Land Plaza (mall), Centre St.: On the second floor of this spiffy mall, really crowded, but good for a coat maybe, I saw a heavy Esprit duffel coat for like $50 so that was a little better. Hard to see the merch though.

New Bowery Merchants, Broadway: Jewellry store, cheap and fun just like Girl Props but without anyone suspecting you of shoplifting.

On East Broadway the fashion got more fashionable.

Xian Shi, E. Broadway: Cool stuff, weird designs, cut out Ts and asymetrical skirts. No prices though, so I fear the white girl mark-up.

Maple Tree Fashion, E. B'way: Even weirder stuff, but sized for stick people, not even Taiwanese people. Nice things though. Clubby.

Verdict: No way are you going to save money by shopping in these Chinatown stores. You might find something that not anyone has, but when its ugly, will you really be that pleased?

Pluses: Shoes, boots, sandals, coats.

Minuses: The rare cute/out-of-the-ordinary clothes were built for stick people.

I think I'll keep my eye on the second-story Beauty though, like I said, not cheap, but maybe eventually they'll get some nice merch in.

Others please weigh in with C-town experiences, share tips, trade secrets, etc.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 9 October 2003 04:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Despite being out of work and broke (and having bought Armani shoes a week ago) I am obsessed with buying this Paul Smith suit I tried on last weekend. It's $1100 which is absurd even if I was working; but it made me look and feel like a goddam rock star, and I have to have it. I may go out tomorrow and charge it. Convince me not to!

― Sean (Sean), Thursday, 9 October 2003 07:32 (twenty-two years ago)

$1100 worth of coke will make you feel more like a rock star.

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 9 October 2003 07:38 (twenty-two years ago)

$1100 of guitar will actually MAKE you a rock star.

Hi, Sarah McLusty!

― kate (kate), Thursday, 9 October 2003 07:51 (twenty-two years ago)

personal to oops: trust me, it's the suit I need.

― Sean (Sean), Thursday, 9 October 2003 08:07 (twenty-two years ago)

How disappointing about the chinatown stores! I suspected a little since the pics accompanying the story didn't look so great.

― Carey (Carey), Thursday, 9 October 2003 11:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I always wanted to go into Beauty as it's like DIRECTLY above the tea shop I like to go to, but never do because I never like the looks of the girls who are standing loitering on the stairwell.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 9 October 2003 12:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought of you at Beauty though, you can see the white boots through the window, and the neat thing is, there is this flap that turns down, I think if you pull it up you can have thing-high boots.

The article was good because it gave me enough courage to go to this basement store further down on Mott that I've always wanted to go in but have been afraid to. They had cute-ish shoes too, but the woman followed me around the whole small store telling me how much everything was. Does this sales technique actually work?

I wonder if there are anything clothing boutiques in Koreatown...

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 9 October 2003 16:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I almost bought white boots at Zara last night but I just couldn't justify spending $100 on them especially since the way they do boots there is to apparently throw the shoes all together all over the place and not even give you boxes--even Payless has boxes and proper shoe storage for god's sake?

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 9 October 2003 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I bought a pair of shoes at Zara in Paris and they gave me a box. They might give you a box after you buy them.

On the recent Non-no cover the model is wearing the regulation Pringle argyle pink and balck print sweater as a dress along with black high heels and pulled up all the way black legwarmers. This refutes my earlier theory. But the back of the legwarmers are tucked into the heel of the shoe and the front come down over the middle front of the shoe. Maybe as the weather gets colder they are meant to be pulled all the way up.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 9 October 2003 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)

But I don't want to spend $100 on shoes that have spent god knows how long on a display shelf being knocked around and kicked about all over the floor. The Zara at 34th St is a mess :/

Steve Madden had some fantastic shoes though!!!

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 9 October 2003 19:38 (twenty-two years ago)

But Ally, that's how they get their character:)

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 9 October 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

That theory only works with men, not shoes.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 9 October 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm feeling so very autumnal today with my brown outfit and long sleeves and knee socks and short boots. I've actually been getting lots of compliments on these silly little boots that I bought at Payless last year!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 10 October 2003 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Is there a Payless in NYC?

In my mag there are legwarmers with a special hole for your high heel to go through--I think that's cheating.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 10 October 2003 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

That's just a deformed sock, no?

― Nicolars (Nicole), Friday, 10 October 2003 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Not exactly, it's like a legwarmer with a very small hole in it...when you wear it it comes over the back of your shoe and to about the middle of the top of your foot... there is about an inch or two of bare skin on your foot...Or was that a rhetorical question?

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 10 October 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

There is a Payless on 34th Street, Mary. Their selection was so so last I was in but I have gotten some GREAT shoes in there previously.

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 10 October 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I tried on the Paul Smith suit again. It's so fab, but I didn't buy it. I did buy an Armani sweater though. What is this all of a sudden, I'm not even a big Armani fan. And I've spent about $700 cash on stuff I don't need when I'm out of work. Not to mention all the CDs, dope and booze. Woohoo rock on!

*collapses*

― Sean (Sean), Friday, 10 October 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I am pro legwarmer. I love the off duty ballerina look.

― Carey (Carey), Friday, 10 October 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

The PS suit sounds dreamy, Sean.

Japanese legwarmer (kotatsu)

http://www8.plala.or.jp/y-naka/WINT_0011.jpg

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 10 October 2003 20:16 (twenty-two years ago)

What's happening in that illustration? They're at the dinner table or something, but notice how the tv set is looming a bit too ominously in the background.

― Sean (Sean), Friday, 10 October 2003 20:21 (twenty-two years ago)

i got a gorgeous thick, handknit, black and white stripey wool scarf while i was in london in anticipation of the brisk fall weather that i would encounter upon my return to new york. i'm dying to wear it, but what's up with the uncooperative weather?
i almost bought a pair of stretchy maroon suede over-the-knee boots, but decided to economize for some bizarre reason. i am berating myself hourly about this.

― lauren (laurenp), Friday, 10 October 2003 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Let us now salute legwarmer visionary Starry Sarah!

― felicity (felicity), Friday, 10 October 2003 21:07 (twenty-two years ago)

the (paul) smiths

http://www.firstview.com/MENFall2002/PAUL_SMITH/00127.L.JPG

http://www.firstview.com/MENFall2002/PAUL_SMITH/00125.L.JPG

men fall

― eriik, Saturday, 11 October 2003 15:45 (twenty-two years ago)

first one boring
second one ugly

― eriik, Saturday, 11 October 2003 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

The one I wanted isn't either of those.

― Sean (Sean), Saturday, 11 October 2003 18:49 (twenty-two years ago)

heid slimane is the star at dior rocjk

http://www.firstview.com/MENfall2003/DIOR/00003.L.JPG

mad maxis fall

http://www.firstview.com/MENfall2003/DIOR/00071.L.JPG

i'm really broke so
can someo ne buy sweater for me

please?

http://www.firstview.com/MENfall2003/DIOR/00108.L.JPG

― eriik, Saturday, 11 October 2003 22:46 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm wearing one false lash
someon told me you have to peel
it off from the outside in

― eriik, Saturday, 11 October 2003 22:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Ally, I saw fishnet thigh-highs somewhere recently (unfortunately couldn't buy them) but I think they were by the "DIM" brand.

― Kim (Kim), Saturday, 11 October 2003 22:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Hotel Venus has a nice selection of inexpensive legwarmers. I got a nice soft pink pair, but they have that hole for the heel. Now I need some heels to put through them, though my sister said it would be okay to wear them with hole. They also have nice non-holed pink&gray striped ones, and an assortment of plain colored non-holed styles.

Important: they also have boots--cheap boots--knee high plastic/vinyl shiny ones in white and black for $60 and thigh high leatherish ones in white and black for $70!!!

What's that little thing called that's fur/faux and you wear it around your shoulders? They have that too. Cute, with little strings with pom poms to tie.

When FR, my sister and I had brunch we saw a lovely lady with pink legwarmers over gray boots.

Do you agree with this maxim: If you were old enough to wear the trend the first time you shouldn't participate in the revival?

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 13 October 2003 19:38 (twenty-two years ago)

A shrug?

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 13 October 2003 19:45 (twenty-two years ago)

A tippet. I keep seeing a fake fur one in magazines at just £5 from Tesco, but none of the London branches of Tesco stock clothing.

― Anna (Anna), Monday, 13 October 2003 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

brown is now officially my favourite colour - have bought a ton of brown stuff on my trip, including fabbo natural leather hit-top nike dunks... am a happy chap

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 13 October 2003 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I bought a new pair of jeans at Lane Bryant, flares that came with a terrific studded black Joan Jett hate-myself-for-loving-you belt. And I've got on a white sweater with beads that I got for a DOLLAR at the Seattle Men's Chorus rummage sale last year.

― Layna Andersen (Layna Andersen), Monday, 13 October 2003 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't believe in that 'if you were around the first time...' rule. I am jealous of the ultra 70s wardrobe I had when I was 5!

― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

OMG the Seattle Men's Chorus rummage sale must be the best thing ever!

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 14:58 (twenty-two years ago)

The legwarmer thing is big in London: for keeping your trouser-legs tight while you bike

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 15:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Do you agree with this maxim: If you were old enough to wear the trend the first time you shouldn't participate in the revival?

YES

― half jack, Tuesday, 14 October 2003 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

from what i can tell, there seems to be much less stigma associated with legwarmers in london. a lot of my british girlfriends wear leg/armwarmers unselfconsciously as a cute way to keep warm, but i think if i tried it in nyc i'd get no end of ridicule.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I say go for it, judging from the warm response to my Night of the Hunter legwarmers. Wearing legwarmers is like walking a small fluffy dog, acting as an instant icebreaker, and very nonthreatenting.

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)

i think if i tried it in nyc i'd get no end of ridicule.

Some in NYC feel threatened by any possiblity of the 80's revival.

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)

No matter what you wear, someone in New York City is going to be displeased with it so you might as well wear what you want.

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I totally want to rock the armwarmers.

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 16:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I am sporting black, wrist-length, silk/cashmere/wool-blend knit mittenlets under my 3/4 length coat in this transitional season. They have a mini-sleeve for the thumb like a cycling glove but the rest of the hand is cut away, without the individual holes for the non-thumb fingers. When I bought them I thought they were utterly frivolous but they are proving extremely practical!

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 16:42 (twenty-two years ago)

The Seattle Men's Chorus Rummage Sale is FANTASTIC. And if you go on the last day of it, and they're desperate to get rid of stuff, you can get tons of great stuff for like a dollar. I got so many gorgeous sweaters, several obviously hand-knit.

― Layna Andersen (Layna Andersen), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)

That's really good because even if there is something f-ed up about the body of the otherwise nice swaeter then you can cut the sleeves off and make your own legwarmers or armwarmers or dachshund sweater or whatever.

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Zoe are you making THESE??? Leggyleggy legwarmers!!! Because I think I might attempt them. They don't specifically say double pointed needles - this is a good thing cos I don't have any! I have one 3.75mm pair, 1 8mm pair and some 6.5mm circular ones AND some cable needles - BLIMEY and still I'm with the needles. Oy vey.

I haf not mentioned my ORANGE AND BLACK striped jumper with a little dangly bit round the neck. I haf not described it very well but I might be able to show you a picture (in quite a while if this thread is still going then). It is slightly indulging in the 80s ting but IT IS STILL GRATE.

Currently I am annoyed at Dorothy Perkins. IT IS WINTER and yet STILL they are continuing with the skirts that no-one with an ARSE can wear without revealing uncomplimentary amounts of gusset. They'd be nice if they had a sodding extra INCH. Grah and haven't we learnt how to knit things in non-itchy gabric yet?

― Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 17:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes photo of your ORANGE AND BLACK striped jumper with a little dangly bit round the neck, please!

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 18:06 (twenty-two years ago)

That site is so cute, it almost makes me want to take up sewing. I like the legwarmers cause they have a bow at the top. Re the picture: I think legwarmers look nice with heels, cause then you can pull them over your heel without getting the fabric dirty.

I am now concerned that my legwarmers are armwarmers and that the hole I thought was for a heel is for a thumb. How can I tell the difference? Also, armwarmer etiquette please.

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

hmm. you might have armwarmers, mary. they usually say on the package, although i don't really think there's any difference and i highly doubt anything bad will happen if you wear them on your legs.
i like wearing them under blazers/hoodies and that's pretty much it, although this is a conservative interpretation.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 18:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Warning: armwarmers have as of yet not Properly Caught On and therefore are mostly worn in the FISHNET variety by dodgy lurkers in Caaaaamden. HOw do I know this? Shhhh.

If there is a hole in it which is not either at the top or bottom = arm, if there is not I wd say it was suitable for LEGGY.

I wore a crap outfit to work today. I have no clothes. I want to wear my grebt jumper tomorrow but seeing as everything else I own is rubbish, I should save it for another night innit. Sod it I am TO THE SHOPS tomorrow lunch.

― Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 18:24 (twenty-two years ago)

There was no package but I suppose I could go back to the store and ask. They were mixed in with the non-holed variety. There is a hole at the bottom, but I though they were being super fast picking up on the J-trend of having a hole for the heel to go through as seen in Non-no. But perhaps the Japanese girls are misinterpreting armwarmers? Oh so confusing. I was also wondering -- they did seem a bit tight on the legs -- but fit quite comfortably on the arms. I fear I have now stretched them out by putting them over my legs. They do look okay at calf length though. I might need to have FR over for a private consultation.

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks for the link sarah! The bit of ribbon at the top is majestic! Possibly that will work without the double-pointed needles but you might as well invest in a pair. They look so impressive when you're knitting!

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 18:42 (twenty-two years ago)

mittenlets:

http://www.shoponlineusa.agnesb.net/Images/Products/regular/3133J491000.jpg

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 18:49 (twenty-two years ago)

mittenlets in action:

http://www.firstview.com/WRTWfall2002/AGNES_B/00060.L.JPG

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Purty. What store is she from, F.?

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Agnes. Is that even a question?

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm so embarassed. Back to fashion school 101 for me.

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh no, I didn't mean it that way! I just meant considering the consumer in question.

felicity

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 22:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I know, I just thought I should fess up to my error -- I didn't even think of AB when I saw that pic.

As it gets colder, it would seem counter-intuitive to warm one's legs, while leaving the little space of foot exposed by the shoe bare. What type of under-legwarmer garments are recommended? Are fishnets too distracting?

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 22:40 (twenty-two years ago)

(Blythe has thigh-highs!)

http://www.justbetoys.com/new/blythe_bike.jpg

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 23:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Pink legwarmers + Converse sneakers Rika-chan

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 04:35 (twenty-two years ago)

More legwarmer styling.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 07:17 (twenty-two years ago)

And armwarmers as well.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 07:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Do it yourself legwarmers.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 07:27 (twenty-two years ago)

These are the boots
http://www.officeholdings.co.uk/images/shoes/17041061b.jpg
add those to numerous corduroy skirts I now have in my possession. Still not sure about the top half yet though.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 07:39 (twenty-two years ago)

This is brilliant.

http://www.gurl.com/games/paperdoll/fall/index.html

― Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 09:45 (twenty-two years ago)

That's great Anna, I got this...
'The secret, sardonic soundtrack to your life just might make a great novel someday. Maybe start writing stuff down?'

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 09:54 (twenty-two years ago)

They do all sorts of other dress up dolls too. I like the thrift store paper doll best. You can also create your own rock band. gURL.com rules.

― Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 09:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the lesson we've learned about legwarmers is that they have to be fine and delicate.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 12:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Some in NYC feel threatened by any possiblity of the 80's revival.

This is the most ridiculously offbase statement in the universe, judging by every single NYC boutique and every single patron in every single LES bar.

― Ally-zay, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

ANYWAY, I am not so much a legwarmer/armwarmer girl though I do have mittenlets and fingerless gloves already. Today I am wearing a white ribbed sweater and grey flannel pants and black fishnet knee highs and stiletto mary janes. HOWEVER I do not look good despite this outfit. In fact I look like crap. Can someone recommend me good stores for pants? I need long inseam but I also want LOWRIDERS that don't have BELT LOOPS or BIG TAB FASTENER AREA that makes me look boxy and crazy. I have decided that ALL pants for tall girls are meant to only be worn by Sailor Moon. I need to find a way to make my legs and bottom less She-Ra, more Fujiko. Help! fuck it I will wear skirts all the time.

The crazy thing is, ALL of these pants that I own look good on me--if I don't wear a shirt or if I am wearing a stomach-bearing shirt. If I put on a regular shirt, I suddnly become truck ass girl. How does that even make sense?

― Ally-zay, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

For comparison's sake:

She Ra's enormous muscular thighs of doom:
http://www.ybfree.com/HEMAN.jpg

Sailor Moon's spindly gams:
http://www.gamersattic.com/roleplaying/images/anime/sailor.gif

Though I do note that none of them have found pants either?

― Ally-zay, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Face it, you are destined to be pantsless. It's in the stars.

― NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 15:01 (twenty-two years ago)

That isn't helpful!!!

― Ally-zay, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)

If you wear low-rider pants, it screws up your proportions if you wear a longer shirt. I don't think anything tucks into low-rider pants and still looks good. You've just got to stick with shirts that hit the waistband of the pants exactly, or go for a sexy sweater that hits at the hip but which is clingy enough to define your waist. Otherwise your waist just disappears.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I never tuck in shirts, even nice button up dress shirts. I'm kind of a mess like that. You'll also find that if I'm not at work I also don't button shirts, bother to check and see if my thigh highs are sticking out, straighten up my jackets to make sure they are buttoned correctly, wash my clothes half the time, etc. I am inspired by Derelicte. And also laziness.

So I went shopping and then realized that my quest for dress pants is kind of dumb since I'm quitting my job and I NEVER wear dress pants outside work. So instead I bought some new jeans and a dusty pink paisley western-style shirt and a grey ribbed snap front cardigan and Christmassy lingerie, it was very exciting. I have a serious problem, I need to stop going out shopping.

What I wanted to buy though was this:

http://www.bananarepublic.com/NR/rdonlyres/entm7ztbrhyt5vhtcqblxnp3zdpgdx7ckiwhjrboednakoqrd4qcmpefjhja4yyqoktiyzigciqfol6k5mnr6nqgfgf/br207495-00p1.jpg

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― Ally-zay, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Christmassy lingerie

!!!

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 17:11 (twenty-two years ago)

It's a very skimpy bra + matching bottom with red, green, and white candy stripes all over it!

― Ally-zay, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)

"Mittenlets" is my new favorite word, and although I have fingerless gloves, I have decided that mittenlets are the things I need. Only they need to market them more in a more manly way for men who are more manly men than me, call 'em something like "man handwarmers" or something.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I love that black+white tartan skirt too, Ally. It would look good with black mittenlets? I'm not sure about your pants problems, not to make light of your dilemma, but maybe it's more in your mind than in the pants? I'd have to see though to be 100% sure. Gah, Felicity, why have you made me desire something I barely knew existed? Please explain why they are not frivolous and why I must get them.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)

(I hear Joseph has really good pants, though I've never tried them out.)

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 19:09 (twenty-two years ago)

"It's more in your mind than in your pants" is my new favorite saying. I really don't like pants to begin with so I don't know why this bothered me so much today other than I needed to take my mind off of real problems for a while. I still think pants don't fit me right but I won't need them when I am eine Studentin so fuck it.

I couldn't justify that skirt, it is too expensive. Hopefully banana republic will still have my size when they discount it?

― Ally-zay, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)

joseph has awesome pants, but like the rest of their awesome clothes they look best on taller, more boyish figures. i nearly wept with frustration when i tried to buy a winter coat from them a few weeks ago - i'm 5'5", and everything made me look like a little tweed fireplug.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 19:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I agree though, pants are so hard to find that fit right. Part of the patriarchal plan to keep us all in skirts? Skirts are so much easier fitwise.

My sister was proselytizing under the the banner of What Not to Wear, Winnie and Susanna. She was telling me what I couldn't wear for my body type. My basic response: Fuck that! (Remember that house song from the early 90s?) Does anyone shop for their body type? There are rules, they are golden, which usually I wouldn't mind, but...

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 19:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Wait, whta do you mean? "Shop for your body type"?

― Ally-zay, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)

mr teeny says I look good in everything but he may just be trying to get me in the sack.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 19:40 (twenty-two years ago)

the idea that there's a foolproof formula that dictates what will look good on you is silly and limiting. i take everything on a case by case basis. unfortunatley trying on half of the joseph department in selfridges brought me to the awful realization that lovely as they are, their pants and coats don't seem to suit shorter people.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)

The Rules.

I think it contributes to a limiting mentality and abets my sis (who is 6 years older than me) in point-black telling me that I am "too old" to wear legwarmers.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

boo mary's sis! legwarmers 4evah!

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Short-waisted with long legs: If you have a short body and long legs, chances are you have big tits. Pull up the breasts with a really good bra so they won't accentuate your short waist. Also, wear short jackets that hit the hip-bone.

Ok, two things:

A) I am short-waisted and have a 33 1/2" inseam, but I wear a 34C which is not "big tits"
B) HIP-BONE LENGTH TOPS/JACKETS MAKE ME LOOK LIKE A BOXY TANK ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!

These women are mental.

― Ally-zay, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, the bit about not wearing short skirts over the age of 35 was mentalist too.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)

That over-35 thing was the bit I took particular offense to.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 20:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I bought another pair of shoes today. I also spotted a pair of velvet-like jeans and a zip-up sweater that I kind of want. Clearly I won't be happy until I'm utterly and completely broke.

― Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 23:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey Ally, I kinda sympathize, I wear tall sizes but have trouble finding anything that fits right. just managed to find some pants at Banana Republic that fit properly & actually got 2 pair cause it is rare that I find any that do. what's annoying is I wear a 34" length and the regular is 33" and tall 35" so now I have to go have them hemmed.

Anyway, I had all this trouble w/trying not to look too boxy and stuff, and I finally figured out what helped - wearing waist-length tops/jackets etc., and a wide belt (black or other dark color, usually). I never tuck stuff in either and used to not wear waist-length stuff 'cause it looked too short.. and then.. discovered why wearing belts actually helped.

― daria g (daria g), Thursday, 16 October 2003 04:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Delias also has heel legwarmers, but I think they look a little weird over this kind of heel. What do you think? I also think legwarmers with holes are a bit cheating, but maybe that's just Winnie and Susanna talking though me.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 16 October 2003 06:19 (twenty-two years ago)

(Those veer dangerously into the realm of stirrup legwarmers.)

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 16 October 2003 06:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Trinny and Susanna are evil. They are a scourge on British womanhood, turning all into high street clones, and I'm depressed to see they have made it to America.

They seem to work on the Marine training principle of breaking people down, so the person in question has no resistance to their rules. It's the fashion version of Full Metal Jacket.

They are a pair of jumped up sloany tarts and I cannot, cannot stand them.

In other news: my favourite jeans are starting to rip across the ass. (Ass? WTF? Bum! Ass. Bum. Ass. Bum. Oh dear God, you lot are colonising me!)

― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 16 October 2003 11:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I too said 'ass' the other day & James said 'wtf? you have been spending too long on ilx.' I just cried!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 16 October 2003 12:04 (twenty-two years ago)

We are colonizing the bums of English ladies!

Attention London women: PLEASE STOP wearing the angled stripe skirt, usually alternating black and grey stripes, but can also be black and any other color, ESPECIALLY in tandem with brightly-colored cheap pointy-toed shoes. Just wear something else, for GOD'S SAKE.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 16 October 2003 12:05 (twenty-two years ago)

(No, keep wearing it, it's paying my bonus!! buy a spare just in case!)

― Emma, Thursday, 16 October 2003 12:24 (twenty-two years ago)

If James actually said 'double-you eff tee' instead of 'what the fuck', then you would have a very strong case for calling him a hypocrite.

Tracer - you live here now. Your use of the word 'bum' shows you to be adapting nicely. (I.E. You're one of us now, there is no turing back.)

― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 16 October 2003 12:26 (twenty-two years ago)

is there turin brakes?

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 16 October 2003 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)

that was an awful joke, sorry. I am rocking the legwarmers today, albeit discreetly underneath my jeans (seven flares). I'm wearing loafer-style block heels and I tugged the legwarmer bottoms underneath the heels of my feet. I like the way a bit of skin peeks out of the shoe. I don't like the way my toes are sweaty/clammy while my heels are cozy warm.

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 16 October 2003 12:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought that when I wrote it Anna!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 16 October 2003 12:35 (twenty-two years ago)

uh, oh. um... i have that grey and black stripey skirt. i never wear it in london, but i have no problem with inflicting my tacky high street fashion on nyc. i've managed to keep away froom those kind of stretchy, pointy kitten heels that top shop sells by the truckload in every possible color are off-limits, though.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 16 October 2003 12:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Anna don't worry, yesterday I saw a girl walking around with an enormous hole in the CROTCH of her jeans, I mean I could tell she was wearing a thong for fuck's sake, your exposed ass is just nothing compared to that, keep wearing them!

― Ally-zay, Thursday, 16 October 2003 12:36 (twenty-two years ago)

If James actually said 'double-you eff tee' instead of 'what the fuck', then you would have a very strong case for calling him a hypocrite.

What fuck the?

― Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 16 October 2003 12:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Ally that's no way to talk about my future girlfriend!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 16 October 2003 15:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Tracer, can't you see you are confused by your feelings of attraction to the women in the diagonal striped skirts. It's like the low-rise jeans and knee socks all over again.

― felicity (felicity), Thursday, 16 October 2003 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not so crazy about diagonal stripes either. But OTOH I'm not planning to bang Queen Crotch.

So I feel better today, I'm wearing my black sailor sweater with a grey wool pencil skirt and black stockings and black knee high boots and I look much thinner and happier and more productive. I also went shopping again because my doctor's appointment was bogus and I needed to blow steam. I have trampy new underwear involving garter belts, I wonder if that is unprofessional for work.

― Ally-zay, Thursday, 16 October 2003 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)

No, just think of all the machine-type belts there are: belt sander, timing belt, conveyer belt, etc. so garter belt is inherently very work-related.

― felicity (felicity), Thursday, 16 October 2003 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

But only if you work in a factory? Anyway I just realized something very very horrible and have decided that I don't care if they like how I look at work. Tomorrow, I shall wear a ludicriously low cut black and tan swooshy patterned Dianne von Furstenberg wrap dress to work with stiletto heels and back seamed stockings and if they say anything I threaten to bring in the health inspectors! This should maybe go on the FUCK YOU!!! thread though?

― Ally-zay, Thursday, 16 October 2003 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

You do work in a factory. A hospitality factory.

― felicity (felicity), Thursday, 16 October 2003 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

A dickhead factory.

― Ally-zay, Thursday, 16 October 2003 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

First of all, aren't you Brits supposed to be saying ARSE?

I'm wearing a dark gray ribbed turtleneck today, beige corduroy skirt, and ankle boots.

Nick's mom gave me her own black dress coat from when she was a young mom in France. It looks great! I'm going to see if I can have the sleeves let out though...

But, in other news, I want to go shopping again too!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 16 October 2003 18:46 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.laughfactory.com/img/photo_shows.gif

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 16 October 2003 19:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I am wearing a turtleneck pulled up high to cover an enormous hickey. :(

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 16 October 2003 19:36 (twenty-two years ago)

actually :) fuck the hatas.

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 16 October 2003 19:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Why do I keep reading this thread? I am the least fashion-conscious person ever.

― NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 16 October 2003 19:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Though my cousin does run a leading NYC fashion webzine.

― NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 16 October 2003 19:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Nick, you have to link the site if you want to really name-drop. Duh.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 16 October 2003 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm trying to build up some mystique first.

― NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 16 October 2003 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

You can mystique my balls!!!!1

Wait that makes no sense, sorry.

― Ally-zay, Thursday, 16 October 2003 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Anna, you should wear a pair of cotton pink undies to see through your jeans -- it will be so precious. I just bought a mini brown wool plaid kilt with -- a discreet strip strip of lace sewn around the bottom. It is almost as good as having the Battle Royale white crinoline under the khaki school pleated skirt outfit, no wait, it's really not near as good as that at all. I wonder if they except returns?

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 16 October 2003 20:41 (twenty-two years ago)

This morning I had to wear the usual, though I am now using the winter weight BDU instead of the stupid summer ones with the annoying flap inside the fly. I only have to wear this stuff for 15 more days and then never again.

This afternoon I busted out my new Donna Karan dark navy suit with the oh so subtle pinstripes and a maroon tie with a white pinpoint oxford and my new ALDO square-toes with cheap reversible belt. Of course I got the job, now I just have to wait and see if they are going to pony up the appropriate scrilla.

Then my iPod battery died in traffic on the way home right at the beginning of "Gimme Some Mo." Bullshit.

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 16 October 2003 21:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Congrats Tom!

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 16 October 2003 21:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I so want a Blythe doll now. But my Buffy action figures will never forgive me.

― Carey (Carey), Thursday, 16 October 2003 21:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm so glad you like Blythe dolly, Carey. I'm sure she can co-exist quite peacably with the Buffster. Unfortunately, the scooter seems to be sold out. Maybe it could be drudged up on ebay though.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 17 October 2003 01:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Picadilly Blythe is sold out too, though I've seen her on ebay. I'm not sure about Blythe with bangs though, I think she maybe looks better without.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 17 October 2003 01:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Franz just got off the plane and the first thing I did was show him the Blythe dolls. Guess where we are going tomorrow?

― Carey (Carey), Friday, 17 October 2003 01:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Toy Tokyo? Say hello to Fruit Punch for me. I really want to go to Fao Schwartz now as well. I'm at home tomorrow, so give me a ring to tell me if you get anything, or if you want to stop by and look at my Blythe doll and reading material.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 17 October 2003 01:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Free fashion advice from Blythe: "Wear the clothes, don't let the clothes wear you."

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 17 October 2003 03:44 (twenty-two years ago)

you take advise from scary people

http://www.goblinjp.com/gimage/imageblythe/bl4blytherd.jpg

― Eriik, Friday, 17 October 2003 08:01 (twenty-two years ago)

oooh those scary dolls again!
So I got my boots yesterday, yay! So what do you think will go best with them? Tell me all. I am thinking beige cord skirt, but what on top?
http://www.officeholdings.co.uk/images/shoes/17041061b.jpg

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 17 October 2003 08:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Oooh, they'd also look really nice with black opaque (sic? whatever) tights, a denim mini skirt, a black t-shirt and a chocolate brown accsessory of some kind.

With the beige cord skirt - I think some kind of 70's preppy shirt (US people, I mean a dress shirt I think), maybe with a woolen tank top with a v-neck over the top.

― Anna (Anna), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:19 (twenty-two years ago)

They look very much like my boots, except mine are black and used to be last winter's slouchy pirate boots until yesterday when I cut the straps off.

― Anna (Anna), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I reckoned denim was the way to go!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Ugh in my ruined state today I yet again = uberfrump of ILX. The local charity shops = classic for books, DUD for clothes. I am considering going to Topshop and just buying ANOTHER one of my Favourite Jumper (the orange and black striped one with the thing). I will def. get one if they have it in another colour.

Tee hee I BOUGHT NEW SHOES last night. They are a little too big and caused my feet to hurt (I have wide feet, they are pointy) so I took them off and walked down Upper Street with a mere casing of HOSE to protect my feet from the gentrified pavements of Islington. They are MONOCHROME and have a WHITE POINT, a greyish stripe going round the shoe and a BLACK TOPPING. They are like the other shoes I have in that design except they are ORANGE PURPLE AND YELLOW!

Comment from resident foot fetishist: "they look very mod, I can imagine you dancing to the Jam yeah yeah *sings town called malice*".

I do not want slouch boots. However I do want boots that are furry on the inside! They may have a fur trim on the top but boots which are entirely furry on the outside just make me think too much Jordan.

― Sarah (starry), Friday, 17 October 2003 11:56 (twenty-two years ago)

That particular Blythe doll looks suspiciously like the creepy doll in the movie MAY. (cringe)

― Sarah MCLusky (coco), Friday, 17 October 2003 12:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I read that Marilyn Manson was a Blythe collector. It makes sense.

My outfit today is very boring, just a plain black sweater with black wool pinstriped trousers.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Friday, 17 October 2003 15:45 (twenty-two years ago)

In defiance of jumped up sloaney tartdom and 2nd-time-around trend haters, today's outfit follows the pop retro-future 60s mandate, comprising

black turtleneck sweater
black & white houndstooth sailor-fronted mini-kilt
black tights
black midcalf heeled boots (per Spring magazine dictate: "short boots x mod style")
black & white genuine 1980s artifact checkered bangle bracelet
(+black mittenlets during commute, now removed for work)

Who knew Blythe would be so divisive?

― felicity (felicity), Friday, 17 October 2003 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)

The Blythe hate is so quaint; it reminds of the shock and awe exhibited my family and co-workers when I bought my first Blythe.

This ensemble is kickin'. I'd like one like it when it becomes winter.

http://www.goblinjp.com/gimage/imageblythe/blythecalendartop.gif

I have officially let fall fashion pass me by. What's a girl to do when the temperature is 75 one day, and 58 the next? I have hardly had the opportunity to wear my brown argyle knee socks. Should we start a Winter Wonderland Woman (and Men) thread soon, or would that be jumping the gun? Perhaps we should wait till after Halloween?

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 17 October 2003 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

(Sarah, I love the furry-in-the-inside boots. But I think I have to hold off on future boot purchases for while.)

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 17 October 2003 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't find all Blythe dolls frightening, just that one in particular. And I really like the drawings done for Sympathy for the Record Industry.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 17 October 2003 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Apparently, I'm talking about Mark Riden and Margaret Keane.

http://www.sympathyrecords.com/ryden/graphics/pic04.jpg

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 17 October 2003 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I meant RYDEN.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 17 October 2003 19:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Now that's scary.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 17 October 2003 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)

No it's not!
(Yes it is! No it's not!, etc.)

― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Friday, 17 October 2003 19:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I found a pattern for stripey knee high socks! One day, one day.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Friday, 17 October 2003 20:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, I at first I thought you found a pattern to make it for a doll. My priorities are all mixed up.)

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 17 October 2003 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)

While I was out walking around today, I noticed that if I kept my hands in my pockets they got clammy, but that if I took them out they got chilly. Is this why I need mittenlets? (Please say yes.)

I tried on the faux fur tippet/stole/shoulder wrap/shawl/whatever thing at Hotel Venus today. The black one was just meh but the dusty pink one was a-ok. Will someone please ask me to the ball so that I have an excuse to wear/buy this item?

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 18 October 2003 00:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Some day,I'd like to have enough money to purchase a Ryden painting. Not bloody likely, though.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 18 October 2003 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, this is why you need mittenlets.

http://media.condenet.com/style/view/94/66/100106694.jpg

― felicity (felicity), Saturday, 18 October 2003 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)

i think i need that bag.

― lauren (laurenp), Saturday, 18 October 2003 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)

There's not much of a need to knit stripey knee high sox, especially not if you are ever likely to visit Camden/Oxford Street/ANY MARKET STALL EVER. I am going to start on my legwarmers. Purplish blue mohair blend, if yr interested (yawn eh).

― Sarah (starry), Saturday, 18 October 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Fashion Doctor, if I was so ~~stupid~~ adventurous as to buy the faux fur dusty pink with pom poms tippet-thing how should I accessorize it? I would like to dress down, not up. Also, I would like to buy these cute flats with hearts on them--they come in black, red and hot pink. What color do you recommend? I am leaning to the pink...Should I be worried that soon there will no aspect of my wardbrobe that is heartless?

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 18 October 2003 20:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Lynn Y**g*r on Mexx, another European chain newly arrived in NYC.

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 19 October 2003 16:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I have been to Mexx 3 times already this week. I am lured in by the ads and mannequins but I have yet to find anything in there that I strongly desire. Every item in there is just a bit off. Either $10-$20 too much, or the wrong color, or the wrong material. I think I will wait for a sale.

New H&M purchases: red mod miniskirt with white button, white mod miniskirt with orange buttons and zipper, black pac-manish button down shirt, faux fur scarf, bright orange wig.

I was at Kiwi this weekend in Park Slope and they had the greatest knit gloves. They were half glove, half mittenlet. A light colored glove covered by a black mittenlet on the outside. Double the warmth!

― Carey (Carey), Sunday, 19 October 2003 21:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Just returning from Mexx. I like it, it is kind of preppy. I saw nice brown and grey (V-neck and turtleneck) argyle sweaters but only large sized left, so I guess the mid-town preps picked through everything already. Also a nice heathery grey/brown tweedish blazer, but too expensive for what it was.

The dogs on the street are starting to wear sweaters...cute...

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 19 October 2003 21:52 (twenty-two years ago)

There's some really good stuff in the new VS catalog but I hate buying from them because then they send me all sorts of shit in the mail. I swear I get 4 catalogs from them a week.

― Ally-zay, Monday, 20 October 2003 04:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe you could have them send it to your office? I'm sure your co-workers woudn't mind...The one catalog I actually do want (Delias) they seem to have stopped sending to me. What did I do to deserve this? Meanwhile I get a Company Store catalog every other day.

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 20 October 2003 04:47 (twenty-two years ago)

So i put my lovely new boots on & my light brown corduroy skirt & shock, horror I had absolutely no tops to go with it. How gutted was i when i couldnt wear my gorgeous new boots. :-(

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 20 October 2003 09:33 (twenty-two years ago)

what about something black or a plain white shirt - they go with anything...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 20 October 2003 10:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Well my boots are chocolate brown & black tops (of which i am inundated) just didnt go. I would like a big chunky brown polo neck, but I just cant wear them. I dont really wear shirts either.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 20 October 2003 10:10 (twenty-two years ago)

But turtlenecks/polonecks = CLOTHING OF THE GODS!!!

Honestly!

I decided that my new look was going to be "Physics Professors Of The Seventies" (I even found a lovely pair of BROWN CORDUROY TRAINERS in Covent Garden, but alas, the shop didn't do half sizes, major bummer) until Suzy burst my bubble by pointing out that people would think I was attempting to "do a Jarvis" - god forbid anyone should think that!

My new style icon is Carl Sagan, not some britpop fop. Ugh.

Anyway, the point being - go get thee to a brown polo neck, Pink!

― kate (kate), Monday, 20 October 2003 10:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah but, if you are short & erm, well endowed in the chest area, it just makes you look short, fat & stumpy!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 20 October 2003 10:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, I am tall and erm, well endowed in the chest area, and fat as well right now!

What you should do is make sure that you get a stretchy and formfitting enough turtleneck - such as the Uniqlo cotton turtlenecks - which will fit your form well enough to make you look non-stumpy!

Heck, my mum has spent years telling me that I should not wear turtlenecks because I have "no neck" - but you know what? Screw her! I think a turtleneck with a pendant or necklace actually makes me look like I have a longer neck! So there!

― kate (kate), Monday, 20 October 2003 10:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Well I am the same but short, I'll try again but I dont know. Can i mix black & brown?

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 20 October 2003 10:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, I would. But then again, when I tried, Suzy looked at me aghast and insisted "no brown in town!" Sigh. I don't get it. I mean, brown and black looks OK together, doesn't it? Horses are often brown with black tails and black feet, and horses look beautiful!

― kate (kate), Monday, 20 October 2003 10:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe it's horses alone. Brown & black just didnt go at all in my opinion.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 20 October 2003 10:57 (twenty-two years ago)

So what colours do go with brown?

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 20 October 2003 10:58 (twenty-two years ago)

And I found penny loafers! They were beautiful! (But they were £80. And, as Suzy pointed out, they were brown. Ish. Therefore not to be worn in town. Even though horses get away with it and look fine.)

(But when Suzy is not supervising, I will run to Clark's and get cheapie penny loafers in WHATEVER COLOUR I WISH!!!)

What goes with brown? According to Gareth: orange. According to my (completely colour blind) father: turquoise!

― kate (kate), Monday, 20 October 2003 10:59 (twenty-two years ago)

mary-- i vote for the pink ones as well. as far as the tippet, i don't know how you're supposed to wear them, but i can imagine it with some sort of scoop-necked top that is pretty simple and dark and jeans and cute shoes. maybe the pompoms and heart shoes together would be too much, though.

ally-- i swear by club monaco for long trousers in normal people (read: bigger than size 2 in zara) sizes. i think they also do free hemming if you need it. if you happen to be in canada, the prices are the same in canadian dollars as american, so i always used to stock up when i visited toronto. or sometimes went on a special ambassador bridge trip to the mall in windsor to go to CM.

i can't believe i'm giving ANYONE fashion advice today. i'm such a stereotypical american slob today-- jeans and dark trainers, purple button down shirt and black cardigan from thrift store. my excuse is that i couldn't sleep last night, and i'm SO TIRED today.

― colette (a2lette), Monday, 20 October 2003 11:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I could wear this.
http://www.riverisland.co.uk/products/hx/hx325/x_x_hx325_x_large.jpg

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 20 October 2003 11:03 (twenty-two years ago)

what's wrong with brown for heaven's sake - it's a great autumn colour. suzy has clearly gone bonkers, either that or i will today have to confine myself to leafy, autumnal areas of london...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 20 October 2003 11:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Dude i have these gorgeous brown boots, I disagree that brown is a bad colour, but i'm jst struggling with it today!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 20 October 2003 11:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I've got brown suede boots, which I've had for years, and never had a problem (in my eyes anyway!) matching them up with clothes. I've got a lovely greeny/cream wool mix skirt, with aplique pattern in brown at the bottom left hand side from H&M which goes very well with them, and on top cream/beige etc. go very well.

I disagree that black and brown don't match, but it does obviously depend on the shades.

― Vicky (Vicky), Monday, 20 October 2003 11:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I wanted to wear oxblood-ish penny loafers with a black pinstripe suit. I agree, this probably would not have worked. But any blanket ban on brown is just wrong! Brown is a good colour for shoes!

― kate (kate), Monday, 20 October 2003 11:25 (twenty-two years ago)

This is a lovely rich chocolate brown & the skirt that goes perfectly with it is light brown, so I guess a chocolate brown top would be ideal.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 20 October 2003 11:25 (twenty-two years ago)

orange complements brown perfectly. i really dont have a problem with black with brown either, i dont know why people are against this. obviously blue and brown clash and dont really work, but oddly there are shades of blue that do work with brown, a muted cyan perhaps

― charltonlido (gareth), Monday, 20 October 2003 12:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I would say a black top would go with brown boots if you say wore a denim skirt.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 20 October 2003 12:12 (twenty-two years ago)

My school uniform at primary was blue and brown, so I have a strange fondness for the combination! A sky blue and chocolate brown go together well...

Orange goes very well with brown. Today I've got a brown polo neck on with black cords, and I think it looks ok.

It all depends on the shades.

― Vicky (Vicky), Monday, 20 October 2003 12:59 (twenty-two years ago)

what sort of brown Vicky?

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 20 October 2003 13:34 (twenty-two years ago)

It's dark brown. it looks just plain dark brown at first glance, but there's kind of rust tones in there too.

― Vicky (Vicky), Monday, 20 October 2003 14:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I got this blazer on sale at the GAP yesterday, 'cept in this beige-ish/ gold-ish color. I'm wearing it today with my black turtleneck, corduroy skirt, and short boots.

http://www.gap.com/assets/product/big/ga203214-04b.jpg

― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Monday, 20 October 2003 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

* The new style for men in London clubs is apparently baby-blue pinafores and trilby hats! There were THREE guys like this in Fabric this weekend.

* It looks as though the Pradaesque alien-nerd shoe craze is finally dying down a little. Maybe ppl just don't wear them as much in London. (You know, the ones with the big wedge in the back and a separate, slimmer wedge for the front part of the foot. Often the sole will do a curve-up thing in the front, almost over the top of the toe.)

* Another women's style I hate in London: furry-top calf-length boots, often with straps and buckles! Girls, if it's a Nordic look you're rocking, don't wear a short skirt with this as is your wont! It just makes your feet look clompy and your legs look wobbly. Wobbly caribou legs aren't sexy, okay?

* People, Starry Sarah has a t-shirt that looks exactly like Eddie Van Halen's GUITAR! Beat that!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 20 October 2003 17:36 (twenty-two years ago)

The new style for men in London clubs is apparently baby-blue pinafores and trilby hats! There were THREE guys like this in Fabric this weekend.

I heart London.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Monday, 20 October 2003 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Tracer, not every woman wants to look sexy. I think the furry-top calf-length boots+short skirt sounds cute. (See what we having been dealing with, London gals?)

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 20 October 2003 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Brown goes with black. My new shoes AND new shirt are both black and brown.

― Sean (Sean), Monday, 20 October 2003 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I think anything goes with brown boots, especially choco brown. Just dress as you normally would and then throw on the boots. I have never seen Charlon Lido in brown+orange. Perhaps this is his concession to Halloween?

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 20 October 2003 22:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean, brown and black looks OK together, doesn't it? Horses are often brown with black tails and black feet, and horses look beautiful!

I agree with Kate and the other defenders of black & brown. I don't believe in following rules so literally. While it is true that the brown + black recalls black & tan riding boots, black and tan foxhounds, and other emblems of country life, conveniently "Country Life" is a ~trend for fall. Perhaps now is a good time to mention tweed.

― felicity (felicity), Monday, 20 October 2003 22:54 (twenty-two years ago)

While I like tweed in the abstact, I'm not sure how I feel about it IRL. My mom got me a gray tweed suit from Benneton back in the day...and I never got a lot of mileage out of it. Another thing I find difficult: just wearing the blazer alone. I feel like I am wearing a suit, even if I am wearing jeans. But then I am retarded. There is a super nice and preppie tweed 3-button blazer at MK but it is way too expensive. I wonder if if will go on sale but probably others will snap it up first.

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 20 October 2003 23:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Mary, your tweed suit sounds lovely and oh so stylish! How about just a gesture towards tweed, like a hat or a satchel? Don't you have a tweed Kangol hat, now that I think of it?

― felicity (felicity), Monday, 20 October 2003 23:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yes, is that tweed? I usually just think of it as brown plaid, but now that you mention it...

Speaking of brown boots, I think they are the way to go. Last Sat. night the East Village was filled with woman tottering around in black knee-high heeled boots with just over-the-knee skirts. At the risk of sounding like Traitor Hand, I would suggest, choose other colors! Or other outfits! Everyone looked like an '80s suburban housewife out for a night on the town aspiring to look like a '70s Jane Fonda. Does that make any sense? Or am I just jealous because I don't have black knee-high high boots? This descension into cattiness is officially over. Note: this has nothing to do with ILX woman who may wear black knee-high boots. I am sure that you would not wear them in this office-casual pedestrian style.

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 20 October 2003 23:52 (twenty-two years ago)

It's official, Mary hates me!!! ;)

― Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 00:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Ooh yes, I love that hat. C'est tres chic!

What goes with brown? According to Gareth: orange. According to my (completely colour blind) father: turquoise!

Here, a tweed hat that should please everyone:

http://a1624.g.akamai.net/7/1624/1463/infinite/www.saksfifthavenue.com/media/images/products/array/A0403579844171_589cd.jpg

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 00:28 (twenty-two years ago)

In my mind, Gareth is already wearing it and let me tell you, it's beautiful. It's like a Cosby sweater for the head.

― Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 00:34 (twenty-two years ago)

That hat would look good on you, F. Ha ha, Ally, I have never seen you (or any of the other lovely ILXers) wearing black boots in this ignominous style.

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 00:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I love the hat. It's like a little peacock built a nest on your head.

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 00:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm afraid I may have purged my hat in my latest cleaning the closet episode. I didn't know that it was a Redwell do.

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 00:48 (twenty-two years ago)

! Oh no, did the hat make you feel bad? Perhaps it is just on probation.

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 00:56 (twenty-two years ago)

It didn't make me feel bad per se, but it hugged my head a little tight, making me feel like I had big head. I will check to see what the final decision was.

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 00:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Hooray, I can wear my brown boots with black. I'm wearing it tomorrow.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 07:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I like country life. I probably like Country Life, too, if it was just architecture and style and not all that hunting and shooting and fishing.

(Mental images of HSA's mum complaining about the Green Wellies Brigade.)

― kate (kate), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 08:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Brown and turquoise *does* work! I discovered this in the M&S LINGERIE section, hem hem. Still can't think I'd particularly buy it over anything else though.

Straps and buckles on the slouch boots = DUUUUUUUUD! Basically I want my boots to be grown up wellies and all nice and furry on the inside. Since when has Willow in the eskimo costume not been a fashion icon?

Oh bugger. First trip to ILX at work. I AM CLOSING DOWN THE BROWSER BEFORE MY DOOM.

― Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 08:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Bugger.

― Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 08:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Kate we could be the alternative wellies brigade...
http://www.officeholdings.co.uk/images/shoes/17188156b.jpg
My slouch boots don't have straps or buckles.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 08:35 (twenty-two years ago)

let me explain - fabric was doing a fancy dress thing coz it was the club's 5th birthday. london's fashionable male is not wearing that kind of idiot get-up all the time...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 09:00 (twenty-two years ago)

that was in reference to this:

The new style for men in London clubs is apparently baby-blue pinafores and trilby hats! There were THREE guys like this in Fabric this weekend.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 09:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Now that is sad news Dave. Maybe you should start to introduce a new trend!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 09:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Have you SEEN men in London clubs recently???

― Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 09:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Is that aimed at me?

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 09:08 (twenty-two years ago)

i was not one of them i hasten to add

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 09:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh that's a shame, you could totally pull that look off! ;-)

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 09:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess those guys took "fancy dress" literally!! (It's slowly coming back to me that someone mentioned there was a costume shop just around the corner, and that those guys had probably raided it beforehand?)

Mary, I don't know how else to read the boot/short-skirt combo except as a stab at sexy. I can't think it's for comfort, given the already-almost-freezing temperatures we're rocking here.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 10:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Purchased a VERY nice Miu Miu sweater with super-big collah in Tokyo. Should've purchased the man style (?!?) shoes but alas I did not. So bought super heavy boots. All the rest is a cliche: corduroy jacket (Diesel)...

― nathalie (nathalie), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 10:35 (twenty-two years ago)

there was a costume shop in the club that night tracer

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 10:47 (twenty-two years ago)

to go back to mittenlets (every time i say that out loud i think of those little corn on the cobs called something like 'niblets')

where can i find some in london? i was looking at claire's and accessorize before the movie last night, and claires only had ones that were sheer and a bit too 'desperately seeking susan' for me. something a little more solid would be welcome this cold week.

― colette (a2lette), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 12:30 (twenty-two years ago)

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― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

*cries*

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 13:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I know!

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 13:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I am wearing a black cowlneck sweater today, is this a good look? I cannot decide if it is. I mean it is basically just a turtleneck for turtles with obese necks.

― Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 14:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I think so, I am coming round to the idea of cowl necks.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 14:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I too am wearing a sweater today with a cowl neck that transforms into a balaclava.

(For some reason I think cowl necks make your boobs look bigger. Hope this is acceptable to TRACER HAND.)

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 14:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh I better steer clear then! :-(

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I think they do make your boobs look bigger as well. I'm sure Tracer has plenty to say on this issue as he does on all things related to female fashion; I think he'd rather we all be naked?

― ALlyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Tracer, I wear boots and short skirts and "sexy" is not really a look that I go for. Hence the reason I do not own a cowl neck sweater, ha ha. I think it's a fallacy to assume that woman are dresing for you, except for that one time that I did dress for you (kneesocks to annoy) and you didn't even notice (boo hoo).

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I always dress with Tracer in mind, what are you talking about, Mary?

― Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyway, what is our opinion of "slouch boots"? I cannot decide on them at all. I saw a girl in them and it looked good but it seems easy to look crap? Anyone? Tracer Hand?

― Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

no way could I rock the slouch boots. It takes a special girl to wear them.

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Special like special ed or special like fabulous?

― Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I was opposed to slouch boots last year because they seemed so '80s and I used to have a beige pair in high school (and when I wore them I did feel kinda sexy in a teenage nymphet way) ...Now...I am coming around to them...which probably means the trend is over or near-over:)

The Japanese girls in my magazine are wearing these tan/light brown calf-high or knee-high boots with a stacked heel. I like my choco-brown boots, but these girls seem so happy in their tan boots. It just brightens up their whole outfit, not like those funeral black boots:) I know I too could be happy if I could just get those light brown boots...They seem kinda loose, but maybe the girls legs are just swimming around in them....

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Old Navy has boot-cut corduroys in brown and beige. Yea or nay for casual wear?

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:35 (twenty-two years ago)

ooh I don't know about for a boy. Really depends on your style.

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Well my mind is officially blown. The rigours women will endure for purely platonic beauty ideals. HOLY GOD I JUST SPELLED RIGORS WITH A 'U'. Sorry. Anyway. Where was I? Oh yes: Slouch boots = YOU HAVE CARIBOU LEGS. I'm trying to think even of an exception that proves the rule and I can't. And I'm sorry, I've seen the Japanese girls do it and they look just as bad to me (and I am the arbiter of all fashion, I mean, just look at me!) Of course you could ALWAYS BE THAT EXCEPTION. A "don't" that is just somehow miraculously a "do" (except don't, cause it'll never work for anyone else). You never know!

Big boobs are acceptable.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:42 (twenty-two years ago)

(I'm suddenly paranoid that everything I write is spelled in a British way. I actually just checked dictionary.com about "rigours" because it LOOKS RIGHT! NOOOOOOOOOO!!)

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I love how he's paranoid about his spelling and not his sexist comments:)

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

(Btw: slouch boots are often worn with jeans or pants, thus mitigating the caribou effect as you call it I would presume.)

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:53 (twenty-two years ago)

ew, worn outside the cuff, right?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:02 (twenty-two years ago)

But you mean "sexy" comments, surely? I'm not paranoid about them. They just come naturally.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, the pants are tucked into the slouchy boots, just the way I tucked in my tight Guess jeans back in the day. (The pants now are looser though.)

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Really depends on your style

"Broke" - slash - student.

Jeans, t-shirts, polo shirts, Converse all-stars or black Doc Martens boots, occasionally a work-shirt.. I'm going to have to retire the Red Sox cap I wear to class and bust out with a Mavs/Celtics hat

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, cords would be fine then...you just can't expect to look even vaguely mod/formal when wearing cords though.

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I say, if Pinkpanther wears slouch boots then they are fashionable!

I am all for corduroy as well.

I see nothing wrong with black boots. I've always wanted light brown boots but then I can't imagine they are quite as practical as darker colors.

F that. I want some.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I used to have a pair of slouch boots in middle school, which I thought looked like a pair that Sheila E. wore so they totally rocked. So I still have affection in my heart for slouch boots, even though I never want to wear them again.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I just got my girlshop email; check out the rainbow tweed hat!

http://www.girlshop.com/shop/girls/email/resources/e_hnk_tweed_hat.jpg

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I really want this tweed coat though:

http://www.girlshop.com/shop/girls/email/resources/e_ean_charlotte_coat.jpg

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Both are really cute, Teeny! Esp. the hat, but since I look terrible in hats I will have to appreciate it from afar.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

*is bemused by the concept of slouch boots, checks some images of same*

So, boots with wrinkles.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I have yet to agree with slouch boots.

I do agree with cowl necks.

I bought 8 shirts today that all happened to be red and black, white and black , red and white. I should have noticed this when I had them all in my hand.

― Carey (Carey), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 23:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Where, Carey, where?

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 23:39 (twenty-two years ago)

well, let's see. where could I possibly go and buy 8 shirts and not complain about how much money I spent (because I also bought black and white gloves, a red pleated skirt and a double red belt).

I think some of these clothes will be in hiding until next year and the mod thing passes and our collective memories fade

― Carey (Carey), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 23:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Black and white gloves? They didn't happen to be polka dotted, did they?

― Allyzay, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 23:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Carey the red pleated skirt sounds cute. I want to see you in some mod clothes this season though! (They just played Morrissey on Gilmore Girls!!!)

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 23:57 (twenty-two years ago)

No, the gloves were striped. I am going to try to fashion some double glove + mittenlets like I saw in Park Slope with some cheap H&M gloves. So if I make a big mess it won't matter.

I HATE that I don't have the WB. It sucks to have to download the GG on Kazaa.

― Carey (Carey), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 00:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot and thought you would have been watching it. Come over anytime for the WB comedy duo of GG+One Tree Hill.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 00:03 (twenty-two years ago)

(Delias has the gloves/mittlenlets combo for cheap.)

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 00:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I will not be mislead into thinking One Tree Hill will ever be better than The OC. I am on to your ruse.

― Carey (Carey), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 00:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I am thinking of visiting Sermoneta Gloves when I go to Rome. ooooooh!

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 00:06 (twenty-two years ago)

did you guys see these gloves at delia's?

http://image.delias.com/delias/current/prodimg/15184_c.jpg

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 00:07 (twenty-two years ago)

or rather that is the mitten/armlet combo there (you can just tell the mittens are light pink).

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 00:08 (twenty-two years ago)

One Tree Hill roxx they go to Tree Hill high school!

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 00:09 (twenty-two years ago)

omg and they're wool and only $12! I may have to get them. Is Delia's catalog/online only or do they have stores?

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 00:10 (twenty-two years ago)

You can get them on-line, Teenster. They have other color combos too...

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 00:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, I haven't looked at Delia's in a while; they are totally ripping off major designers. Don't these look like Pinkpanther's pradas?

http://image.delias.com/delias/current/prodimg/12084_c.jpg

and helloooo, paging marc jacobs?

http://image.delias.com/delias/current/prodimg/16123_c.jpg http://image.delias.com/delias/current/prodimg/18265_c.jpg

and this is dior, non?

http://image.delias.com/delias/current/prodimg/18267_c.jpg

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 00:16 (twenty-two years ago)

oh for goodness' sake!

delia's, $38: http://image.delias.com/delias/current/prodimg/01512_w.jpg

marc by marc jacobs, $448: http://images.eluxury.com/assets_server/product/10448036/p10448036_ph_hero.jpg

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 00:25 (twenty-two years ago)

the delia's one does not have the pocket though I think and it is wool and not acrylic-poly.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 00:26 (twenty-two years ago)

But I think the Delia's one has a more flattering cut, at least in that photo. The Marc one looks a bit...bulky?

― allyzay, Wednesday, 22 October 2003 00:32 (twenty-two years ago)

It's not like Marc actually made up that style himself though, or any of his clothes...

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 00:44 (twenty-two years ago)

The Marc one is made out of really thick material. I was making out with it this weekend.

― Carey (Carey), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 00:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Carey, you whore!

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 00:45 (twenty-two years ago)

good point mary. carey--making out?? Is that like courting? cos I do that all the time with clothes...woo them over a period of time before taking them to the register and promising to love them forever and ever.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 00:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I like Marc Jacobs to a degree but most of his stuff isn't anything I never saw in the thrift store.

Mary, I went to college with the salesman! I had this huge crush on him until he found out he was gay and then he had a huge crush on Franz. They were chatting it up so I went to make out with the clothes.

― Carey (Carey), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 00:48 (twenty-two years ago)

ok to change the subject, does anyone know a good website to order clothes for the tall laydee? All the good ones seem to be in the UK, what's up with that? What are you guys eating over there? My main issue with the ones I've found is that they are either horridly unstylish or the sizes don't go small enough. I know, fuck me for being tall and skinny, but I just want a sweater that covers my wrists!

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 01:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I've always found that the arms at Delia's trail off into the strasophere, so that might be a good choice...

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 01:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I need to find some good online clothes retailers for men. I should probably stop dressing like a bum at some point.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 02:04 (twenty-two years ago)

So today is the first day I wear my slouch boots because I found a brown polo neck in the back of the wardrobe which goes with my lovely light brown corduroy skirt & of course the boots. They are very comfy & I love them, but I see now on this thread ppl dont like them. Ahh well, I like them. (thanks sarah btw)
For Ned, the slouch boots...
http://www.officeholdings.co.uk/images/shoes/17041061b.jpg

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 07:49 (twenty-two years ago)

My main issue with the ones I've found is that they are either horridly unstylish or the sizes don't go small enough.

If you find one Teeny, let me know. All of the ones I have seen carry mostly fugly or soccer mom-type stuff.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 09:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I have seen Gareth wearing orange and brown. When I challenged an earlier claim that he was wearing all brown with the accusation of orange, he replied 'that's not orange, that's bright brown'.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 09:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmm. To buy jumpers at lunchtime or to buy jumpers after work. Does anyone have instant recommendations as to where has good jumpers on Oxford Street RIGHT NOW?

I shall buy them NOW as my office is COLD.

― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 10:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Nice ones in H & M at the mo.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 10:18 (twenty-two years ago)

bright brown! I heart gareth. Nicole, I have a coworker who orders from http://longtallsally.com/ and the stuff there looks pretty good, but it's a UK site, so with shipping I guess it can get pretty expensive. I would guess she's 6' or more though and pretty thin, so it must work! I think they have a juniors section called TallZone or something. I'm only 5'9" but most of it must be in my torso or maybe I just have unusually long arms. I'm just sick of clothes that don't fit.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 11:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Crapsticks. I found nothing apart from one really nice red jumper in WALLIS and by then the queue was too long for me to hang about and buy it. I am still wearing my ugly black top. Cry.

― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 12:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Harsh!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 14:07 (twenty-two years ago)

*bounce*
This thread was on the verge of disappearing from New Answers, which would be sad. I just got new shoes today! You should be able to see them here. I'm wearing them to work tomorrow with a little gray skirt, but I've yet to decide between plain stockings & black tights with a very subtle & very tiny diamondy fishnet pattern to them. The skirt has 4 embroidered pink & blue lines across it on a diagonal, so I'm worried it won't work with the tights.

― lyra (lyra), Thursday, 23 October 2003 03:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I bought a grey, 3-button suit today (I have a job interview tomorrow) along with a reddish tie. I also got my hair cut.

The other day I bought a dark-blue denim-looking collared shirt, dark Levi's corduroys, and a green t-shirt that says "Winter Basketball In Jesus" at the really awesome Salvation Army by my house.

― hstencil, Thursday, 23 October 2003 03:11 (twenty-two years ago)

ooh, lyra, i like those. are they comfy? i think i saw some that were by miu miu that looked similar, but yours look like a more practical heel.

i think your tights question is a good one for fall, it's apparently all about the colorful and patterned and textured tights, although it's really confusing what to wear with what.

what are you wearing as a top? plain or patterened? i'd probably go with the plain tights, but then again i'm not a huge fashion risk-taker these days. then again, mixing patterns *is* supposed to be big this fall...

― colette (a2lette), Thursday, 23 October 2003 09:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Go for the patterns Lyra.

(Or you might not want to listen to me, home wokring kills your fashion sense. I am wearing my sleep clothes at the moment, which today consist of a satin slip dress I wore when I was 15, a blokey t-shirt with the name of a record label I know nothing about and a pair of thigh high stripey socks. I look like a Riot Grrrrl who got dressed in the dark.)

― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 23 October 2003 09:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Top is a plain ivory colored stretchy wool sweater. Hmmm, and the shoes are very comfy, although I maybe should have gotten a 1/2 size smaller, the backs of my heels slipped out a few times when I walked them around my apartment last night.

― lyra (lyra), Thursday, 23 October 2003 13:51 (twenty-two years ago)

My lovely shoe express barginacious shoes do that too sadly. Walking long distance with toes curled up inside grimly trying to hang on to shoes = DUD. Therefore they've not been worn since Monday when I walked MILES in the damn things and wore away the silver lining on the bottom with toe marks! It's great, like a "insert toe here" guide.

― Sarah (starry), Thursday, 23 October 2003 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)

i am wearing some nice plaid flannel pj bottoms from l.l. bean, a navy blue tshirt that says "hw industries" on the back, and some really cushiony furry black slippers that i bought at kmart yesterday. sometimes i love "working" from home.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 23 October 2003 13:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I am wearing woolly tights today, together with the itchiest skirt in Christendom. I had to go to Marks and Spencers for a petticoat and it still itches. A bluddy petticoat!

nb. it has no frilly bits.

― Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 23 October 2003 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

A petticoat! I have an itchy skirt too and I NEVER THORT of a petticoat!! Madchen vous etes un genius.

― Sarah (starry), Thursday, 23 October 2003 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

petticoats are great, esp when they have the frilly bits!

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 23 October 2003 14:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I gave in.

Do you think that wearing pretty much all white is too "angelic"? And more importantly does a white with black plaid kilt and white turtleneck sweater and fishnets "go" with red stiletto knee high boots?

― Allyzay, Friday, 24 October 2003 16:42 (twenty-two years ago)

a white what?

― teeny (teeny), Friday, 24 October 2003 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

A white kilt. With black plaid on it.

― Allyzay, Friday, 24 October 2003 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

oh, duh, I get it. I vote yes, I think it would be very NYC winter.

― teeny (teeny), Friday, 24 October 2003 17:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Ok! I'll post pics maybe when I get them!

― Allyzay, Friday, 24 October 2003 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Yay Ally. Definite on the white sweater. Dark hair keeps it from too angel. Re, boots, it depends, if they are a deep red, I think ok. If they are shiny bright red, I think black *might* look better.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 24 October 2003 17:34 (twenty-two years ago)

The boots are blood red, from Aldo. I will wear tonight so you can judge if you come out!

― Allyzay, Friday, 24 October 2003 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Blood red = wine? I think that will be good.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 24 October 2003 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Ummm...not quite wine but it's not really bright red either. I don't know how to describe it! And Aldo has no internet site as far as I can tell to show it :(

― allyzay, Friday, 24 October 2003 18:23 (twenty-two years ago)

So now Mary wants Ally to wear the black boots.

― felicity (felicity), Friday, 24 October 2003 18:23 (twenty-two years ago)

They are the same color as these shoes but obviously those are not my shoes, being as they are not boots. But the color is same.

xpost hahaha felicity! Maybe I should just wear the black boots? The ones I wore when we met Graham?

― allyzay, Friday, 24 October 2003 18:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh I see, yes I think that color will be lovely. Black will be fine too. Ha ha, I am a hypocrite! And there are my kitten heels.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 24 October 2003 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.frontstyle.com/trend/images/pov_torsaw.jpg

― felicity (felicity), Friday, 24 October 2003 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Mary, is that what your tippet is like?
May we pronounce the word "tippet" in polite company?
(Also note pointed-toe pumps x layered style)

― felicity (felicity), Friday, 24 October 2003 19:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Anna, I didn't end up with "place toes here" marks on my soles. I have lots of bandaids across the top of my foot where the edge of the shoe rubbed as I tried to keep them on, though. I'm going to investigate inserting Dr Scholls pads in an attempt to get them to stay on better.

― lyra (lyra), Friday, 24 October 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

dear fashion gurettes:

i need to impress a european girl by wearing a nice scarf.

it needs to go with a dark blue jacket and a brown cordouroy jacket.

i am in the world capitol of scarves, so any color or combination of colors will be easy to come by, i think.

so what colors? what sizes? what fabrics?

also, can someone point me to a easy-to-understand demonstration of how to best and most fashionably wear a scarf? so far i've been getting by with an indifferent wrap-around.

sincerely,

frost in translation

― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 24 October 2003 22:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Amst, I most like the schoolboy stripes from APC. Mine is blue and yellow. Wool. Most fashionable is just to let it hang equally on both sides. If Paris is not that cold you can do that.

Felicity, I like those scarecrow models. No, my tippet is much longer than that, I fear it is not exactly a tippet. It is like a cape for your shoulders. I searched everywhere but cannot find an approximate picture. Perhaps I can show you at Hotel Venus.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 24 October 2003 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)

What about a nice plaid? Burberry (or a decent copy thereof) - http://www.saksfifthavenue.com/media/images/products/detail/D0400277917540_5d86b.jpg
I don't mean the signature Burberry plaid (played out) but the chocolate brown version, or anything in a nice dark plaid (burgundy?).

I think you have to wrap it round your neck and tuck in to your jacket though. Paris is cold!

― daria g (daria g), Friday, 24 October 2003 23:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Ideal scarf wrapping technique: fold scarf in half at the middle, so that you have a nice U shape. Put it around your neck so that the folded end hangs over your left side & rests against your chest, and the two loose ends come around your neck & rest against the front of your chest on the right. Now pick up the loop end and open the loop a little. Reach through the loop and grab the loose ends, then pull them back through the loop. Tighted a bit by pulling the loose ends through.

This works best with a soft scarf that's at least 4 inches across & not too long in the skinny direction.

― lyra (lyra), Saturday, 25 October 2003 01:47 (twenty-two years ago)

do you have little cartoons that illustrate these methods of scarf wrapping?

― amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 25 October 2003 10:40 (twenty-two years ago)

My drawing skills on trackpad are horrible, but here you go:
http://www.wendyk.org/one.jpg

http://www.wendyk.org/two.jpg

http://www.wendyk.org/three.jpg

http://www.wendyk.org/five.jpg

http://www.wendyk.org/six.jpg

http://www.wendyk.org/seven.jpg

― lyra (lyra), Saturday, 25 October 2003 17:42 (twenty-two years ago)

One legwarmer finished, hurrah! Except I was going to try to knit the other one in rounds but it seems to turn out waaay too large on my circuliar needles. They appear to be the right length that Sally Meville thingie says except 1mm larger but grah grr blah. I also can't remember the amount of stitches I used on the others. Hiss.

― Sarah (starry), Saturday, 25 October 2003 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

arr arr

http://www.firstview.com/MENspring2003/XAVIER_DELCOUR/P017.html

― eriik, Saturday, 25 October 2003 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha, when I was in London I used that method of scarf wrapping and now call it my London method. I also have a New York method and a Virginia method.

― Carey (Carey), Saturday, 25 October 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

What are the NY and VA methods, C?

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 25 October 2003 23:59 (twenty-two years ago)

ally, i think the white and black kilt plus white top would be perfect with red boots. saw something like that on my long slog up and down oxford street, and really liked it.

not ONE place had armwarmers or mittenlets. i am sad about this.

― colette (a2lette), Sunday, 26 October 2003 01:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I, too, am anxious to know the NY and VA methods of scarf tying.

~felicity

― felicity (felicity), Sunday, 26 October 2003 01:28 (twenty-two years ago)

My last year method of tying scarf (longy long kind) was to cross once in front and throw both ends around to hang down the back. I am unsure what this year's method will be. I used to call the diagrammed method my "Japan" method as this is how all the school girls wore their regulation faux Burberry scarfs.

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 26 October 2003 01:56 (twenty-two years ago)

If Amst wants to look really French (film noir stylee) he will go scarfless and pull up the collar of his trenchcoat and hunch forward and brace himself against the elements.

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 26 October 2003 01:57 (twenty-two years ago)

and then he will catch strep throat, land in a hospital, and need the cute girl to bring him chicken soup!

― lyra (lyra), Sunday, 26 October 2003 02:01 (twenty-two years ago)

The criss cross is an innovative method. Perhaps it should be named. I think of the diagrammed method as the "Venice" method as this was how all the Venetians wore their regulation Burberry scarves. Fendi coat not included.

― felicity (felicity), Sunday, 26 October 2003 02:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I cannot afford clothes other than one or two sale pieces per month at Target. We do not have H&M. and I don't have credit. :(

I still have my high-heeled black suede knee high boots from last year. I'd like some taller boots though. I really have a hard time buying anything other than black. Occasionally a red top or something. but that's it.

so therefore I am useless in this thread.

also, what is this "fall" you speak of?

― A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Sunday, 26 October 2003 02:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Sam, I think a cute way to update your knee-high boots without spending a fortune may be to wear some thick long black socks or legwarmers inside the boot so that they protrude above the boot top, creating a pleasing illusion of higherness and also nodding to the layered mandate. I have observed this method implemented with much success.

― felicity (felicity), Sunday, 26 October 2003 02:09 (twenty-two years ago)

There's a Cole Haan ad somewhere with that kind of look, only I think it was something along the line of gray tights + fuzzy white socks things poking out of the boots + black boots.

― lyra (lyra), Sunday, 26 October 2003 02:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Careful of thigh-high tights + knee high boots though. C. and I saw this woman in Hoboken -- black boots, Burberry plaid tights, which had about an inch of nude on top of them, then actual skin, then short jean skirt. C. and I were so confused: which was the fake skin and which was the real skin. It was very disarming. However, my salesman today told me that thigh-high stockings = very sexy. I told him I would have to consult my fashion guru, Maistro Hand.

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 26 October 2003 02:17 (twenty-two years ago)

My considered opinion on the amateurist scarf issue is to implement the lyra/London/Japan/Venice method of scarf wearing with a solid-colored muffler in pale yellow, fringed, of lambswool or merino or similar soft wool. Not only would this color look equally nice with navy and brown, but no woman can resist a man wearing something fluffy and soft the color of a baby chick. This goes for sweaters, too.

Ho-boken sounds like a disaster. The socks I have seen worn in this manner were bulky, if not ribbed. It goes without saying they are worn over a darker tight.

― felicity (felicity), Sunday, 26 October 2003 02:20 (twenty-two years ago)

thigh highs are indeed sexy. I try never to buy tights/hose with crotchs. .how yuck!

― A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Sunday, 26 October 2003 02:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Speaking of which, does anyone else hate putting on fishnet stockings, as I am doing right now? I always feel like I'm going tear them.

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 26 October 2003 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yes. In fact, that is how I usually wind up with crotchless fishnet tights.

Tonight my look is Margot Tannenbaum in winter. Courtesy Mary.

― felicity (felicity), Sunday, 26 October 2003 02:38 (twenty-two years ago)

F., if my legwarmers look off, please correct tonight. Ditto for the funnel. Tonight's look = off-duty winter ballerina, courtesy C., styling by F. and dedicated of course to my sister.

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 26 October 2003 02:49 (twenty-two years ago)

omg you guys remember when I started that thread about needing gloves but specifically long cashmere gloves? Well I'm still looking for really long ones, but I found something quite acceptable today...at Target! It's the Isaak Mizrahi line, too! They are 100% cashmere, and they are a v stylish black and winter white. the hands are black to just below the thumb, and then the wrists are white, with a black band at the very top. They are a couple inches shy of hitting the elbow but much longer than any other winter gloves I've seen. Unfortunately they were a bit pricey at $17 but I couldn't believe that Target had answered my glove prayers, so they are now mine. They also came in solid black, solid hot pink, and a funky pink/orange/red stripe.

― teeny (teeny), Sunday, 26 October 2003 03:12 (twenty-two years ago)

also, what is this "fall" you speak of?

IT'S FINALLY HERE.

A day later than promised, but I got to bust out with a long-sleeved shirt this afternoon. Praise the Lo'd.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 26 October 2003 06:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't actually have a scarf handy to give proper instructions. Plus, why am I up at 8:30am!

NY method= wrapping scarf around neck 1.5 times so the ends are at the front and can be tied so that one sticks up and one sticks down.

Virginia method= Mary's last year method.

― Carey (Carey), Sunday, 26 October 2003 13:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Both ends flying away behind you = VA method? I thought it was Shibuya method, optional Harajuku tie both ends behind for safety. I also like the NY method as explained above.

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 26 October 2003 14:45 (twenty-two years ago)

all my fishnets have become crotchless hose

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Sunday, 26 October 2003 15:08 (twenty-two years ago)

no woman can resist a man wearing something fluffy and soft the color of a baby chick.

i spent about ten minutes staring at this sentence trying to decide if it was sarcastic or not. i reached no conclusions.

― amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 26 October 2003 15:08 (twenty-two years ago)

rosemary you got a "s" and an "e" reversed there.

― amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 26 October 2003 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)

When that happens you can stick your head through the crotch and use it as a shirt. A small weird shirt, but a shirt.

― Carey (Carey), Sunday, 26 October 2003 15:12 (twenty-two years ago)

The pair I wore last night was kinda good -- they actually had an enforced crotch -- and they didn't tear.

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 26 October 2003 15:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe I should just turn them into stockings.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Sunday, 26 October 2003 16:06 (twenty-two years ago)

You could make a shawl for Blythe?

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 26 October 2003 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Amateurist, I am serious. Try it and see.

― felicity (felicity), Sunday, 26 October 2003 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Teeny, target rules. Clothing purchases made there this weekend:

red hoodie sweater that's part angora: $13
Caramel courdoroy jacket with fake sherpa lining: $20
Thin, grey sweater with a turquoise "S" on the upper left: $15

I have to get some red fishnets this week for halloween I'll look for some tall socks per Felicity's suggestion, as well.

― A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Sunday, 26 October 2003 22:40 (twenty-two years ago)

yes! I saw those angora hoodies too! they also come in grey and black.

― teeny (teeny), Sunday, 26 October 2003 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)

i just got a pale pink angora hoodie, which is awesome but sheds like nobody's business.
amateurist, i would suggest a scarf with a lot of burgundy (not maroon).
mary, your legwarmers looked very nice. i saw them as i was leaving last night.

― lauren (laurenp), Sunday, 26 October 2003 23:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Grr I didn't get to go to the special Mizrahi Target sale and now it is over. However, for all those of you who always complain that we New Yorkers overlook our cultural heritage by shopping at the Gap, let me mention Citilimits, a store on the corner of Grand and Broadyway where F. and I hunkered down and tried on lots of cute cheap shoes. Unfortunately the hearted shoes I mentioned just a week earlier were already sold out, meaning they must have been really good and I should have bought them, but F. helped me pick out a legwarmer worthy shoe -- black with a tiny silver buckle and a low wooden (like in the Delias catalog) sloping heel. F. explained that they are a perfect point, not too witch but not too round. Other shoes had pink or red polka dots and ruffles. F. tried on a round toed high clear heel Victorian Maiden black leather with white lace trimming, that I loved, but she wasn't quite feeling it.

x-post: Thanks Lauren; I'm sorry I missed you!

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 26 October 2003 23:03 (twenty-two years ago)

how do burgundy and maroon differ?

― amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 26 October 2003 23:24 (twenty-two years ago)

i think i might take felicity's advice and get the baby chick scarf (if i can find one) and also lauren's advice.....

as for tying the scarves, i'll cross that bridge when i come to it.

― amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 26 October 2003 23:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Why are affordable women's clothes (Target, apparently this H&M place) so much better than men's? A conspiracy to make us look bad?

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 26 October 2003 23:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know; I think the men's clothes at the H&M place are pretty stylin'.

Now that I have ladylike shoes, perhaps I need a ladylike purse? (Or at least one that doesn't have Hello Kitty on it.) We saw a great one on lower Lafayette that was bright red with 4 parallel silver strap buckles and fairly reasonable; I thought it was very s/m but F. didn't agree. I'm not sure if red is the color though for my first purse purchase -- I seem to be wearing a lot of pastels... What do you reckon, black noir?

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 27 October 2003 01:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I would agree black might be a good first purse color for your new Miss Charm School look. And yet . . . you seemed so drawn to the S&M purse as you call it . . . I have never seen you so interested in a purse before.

Anyway, I think Anna has described the perfect ladylike handbag somewhere. My idea is that it is one-strapped but of course there are so many wonderful varietals.

― felicity (felicity), Monday, 27 October 2003 01:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Did Anna commit this act of genius on the 50s thread? I shall search for it.

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 27 October 2003 02:06 (twenty-two years ago)

My jeans ripped across the knee this afternoon! It feels fitting, I was sitting on the floor right inside my door comparing autumn/winter work schedules with Boy & we realized we will not see each other until late January. AARRRGGHH. And then I looked down & noticed I'd ripped the jeans when I sat. AARRRGGHH. I only have 1 pair, so I'm stuck in cords & khakis until I drag myself off to get a new pair & have them hemmed & everything. :-(

Mary, I've been in love with black purses with silver buckles on them recently. I have a cute tiny nine west one that barely holds my ipod & phone, but it has nice fake buckles where the straps attach. I have a bigger one that's useful for when I have to cart my laptop around, but it's not as adorable, so I tend not to use it unless its needed.

― lyra (lyra), Monday, 27 October 2003 02:23 (twenty-two years ago)

i want this pink and black initial bag I saw in jc penney's salespaper. very 50s.

― A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Monday, 27 October 2003 02:26 (twenty-two years ago)

The Marshall Field's Fall Fashion catalogue has me so angry that I don't have any money. There's a mid-thigh-length standup-collar leather coat that is making me want to cry.

― kirsten (kirsten), Monday, 27 October 2003 02:33 (twenty-two years ago)

amateurist, i think of maroon as having more browny-red undertones while burgundy is more winey-purpley.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 27 October 2003 03:41 (twenty-two years ago)

haha they profiled my cashmere gloves in New York last week, which I get a week late here.

http://www.newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/shopping/sales/columns/sb/deal/dealoftheweek031013_125.jpg

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 27 October 2003 04:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Sexy Caribou Legs? She does look kind of like a deer caught between the headlights in that middle picture.

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 27 October 2003 07:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I bought NEW SHOES on Saturday! Hurrah! And I have decided to ignore Suzy's "no brown in town" mandate so they are BROWN!!! They are very clumpy and sensible lace-up shoes (except with a much higher heel than I normally wear) AND THEY ARE THE LAST PAIR OF SEVEN AND A HALF SIZE SHOES IN LONDON!!! Apparently.

And then I went on a massive binge at UNIQLO, which is the best clothing shop in the world, ever. You know that I utterly loathe all that is edgy and trendy and stylish and Japanese Design Student, etc. etc. but UNIQLO is great because you know that its clothes are not made by designers - they are ENGINEERED BY JAPANESE COMFORT TECHNICIANS!!! With lab coats and clip-boards.

I bought *two* pairs of brown corduroy trousers to match my new shoes. And a turquoise blue poloneck and a Carl Sagan style burgundy turtleneck. And a very cute little black corduroy skirt. I put on a little fashion show for HSA when I came home, and he went "Zoiks! to the Mystery Machine!" so I think I'm going in the right direction.

Are parkas played out? Because I think I want one, if I can get the stink of Camden out of it. (Though I am getting more and more tempted by an RAF bomber jacket. But that might be NS-inspired WWII Lunacy. What do you think?)

― kate (kate), Monday, 27 October 2003 09:59 (twenty-two years ago)

this thread sort of makes me want to be a girl.

― amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 27 October 2003 12:40 (twenty-two years ago)

thanks for the target tip, teeny. i just ordered the b/w cashmere gloves and scarf online, so they'll be waiting for me when i go home for christmas. hooray for target!

― colette (a2lette), Monday, 27 October 2003 12:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Fashion things always make me want to be a boy, because I usually prefer boys' clothes anyway. :-(

All of the NS-style zippered turtlenecks that I found were for boys, and therefore way too big for me. :-((

― kate (kate), Monday, 27 October 2003 12:56 (twenty-two years ago)

this thread, amst? or the feminizing influence of the french?

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 27 October 2003 13:06 (twenty-two years ago)

no the french make me want to stay a boy because i have met so many wonderful girls!

(does that sound gross?)

― amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 27 October 2003 13:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Today I have put on all brown and feel a bit like Gareth, if Gareth wore cowlneck cashmere sweaters and tweed plaid skirts and stilettos.

― Allyzay, Monday, 27 October 2003 14:41 (twenty-two years ago)

i am dressing very plainly today (black top, sergio valente stretch jeans, black suede pointy boots) in order to show off my new favorite fall accessory aka the best necklace ever. it's a thin wire choker that lays nicely on my collarbone and attached are two large-ish concentric metal circles, one glazed brick red and one glazed burnt orange. it's a lovely mix of mod and 70s influences, and i am feeling obscenely proud of it.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 27 October 2003 15:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I love parkas, but I think they are a bit like trucker hats in the UK? Everytime I gravitated toward one G. recoiled in horror.

You know what I think is sexy? That small patch of skin "accidentally" displayed between a V-style coat and a thin scarf worn around the neck, when a high neck shirt is not being worn. Stiff wool lapels plus soft fleecy muffler against a bare block of collar bone = k-rown. Sexy is about subtle, not sticking your crothless panties in somebody's face.

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 27 October 2003 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Sexy is about subtle, not sticking your crothless panties in somebody's face.

― Allyzay, Monday, 27 October 2003 20:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't pay any attention to me, Ally; I think the hottest thing on the planet is a little plastic doll with an oversized head and good fashion sense.

By the way, i remember another purse I was interested in earlier this year; it came in red or black and was leather and appeared vintage/distressed and of course had a heart on it, but it was actually new and cost $180 dollars! It was at Flying A, WTF? I would have bought it for $18 maybe.

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 27 October 2003 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I desparately need to get a new purse for work. The mustard stains on my old one do not reflect well on my professonalism. But I guess neither do the velcro shoes.

― Carey (Carey), Monday, 27 October 2003 21:14 (twenty-two years ago)

i like the small patch of skin "accidentally" displayed between a V-neck tshirt and a thin scarf. yes, i go out like this.
i once owned over 45 scarves. working the lost and found at a movie thetre has its pay offs

i also have rocked the tshirt and wool hat look for many a year

― kephm, Monday, 27 October 2003 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)

i sort of feel wrong when i post on this thread. sort of like ive walked into the all girls slumberparty, pulling up my pajamas all "and look at these! SOCKS! amazing"

― kephm, Monday, 27 October 2003 22:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I just got myself some plain black-and-white Adidas (Samba), I am very, very happy with them. Also one of these new sweaters at the Gap, I am a sucker for bright colors esp when they have them all lined up and looking delicious.
http://www.gap.com/assets/product/main/gap/ga213486-00p1.jpg

I held off on getting a matching scarf and gloves tho. That's too much.

― daria g (daria g), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 01:38 (twenty-two years ago)

all my fishnets have become crotchless hose

Yeah, this happens to me all the time, wtf is that about?

― Allyzay, Tuesday, 28 October 2003 02:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Felicity pointed out to me that the tippet I lust after is weal wabbit fur, and not faux-fur as I had surmised. Should this affect my decision? They didn't hurt the poor rabbits when they were shaving off their dusty-pink fur, did they?

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 04:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Victorian porn: She had a white fur tippet about her neck and made no fussy objections when Emil fingered it admiringly.

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 04:50 (twenty-two years ago)

bad news about bunny fur

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 05:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh fuck that, they're born to be shaved for our benefit anyway.

― Allyzay, Tuesday, 28 October 2003 05:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought that was monkeys. . .

― A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 05:36 (twenty-two years ago)

But they weren't shaved:(

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 05:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Seriously, they just remove the very top layer. It's like exfoliation, but for rabbits. Trust me! You should buy the tippet.

― Allyzay, Tuesday, 28 October 2003 05:40 (twenty-two years ago)

ha ha Thanks Ally, I feel much better now :)

I love the word "tippet." I wonder if Tracer Hand thinks that it is sexy . . . ?

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 05:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, Kephm, I feel *less* weird when boys post on this thread. Because I feel odd enough talking about clothes and fashion.

Gareth is categorically WRONG on everything (except brown, I've come around on the brown front) so I disregard his wincing at Parkas. I've wanted one for over ten years at this point, so I probably should get one. Well, it's that or the RAF bomber jacket, and I think the sexual frisson of that is a bit too worrying.

Isn't refusing to wear something just because it's fashionable just as silly as wearing something *just* because it's fashionable?

I second the V-neck love. I used to have the most perfect V-neck sweater in the world, it was inherited from my mum, it was a Marks & Sparks thing, and I've never found its like. The Dior black v-neck came close, as it was sofffft, but it's a bit too thick to wear under jackets. I'm really digging the UNIQLO angora turtlenecks, so I might go back and see if I can get a v-neck in the same material. Sigh.

I need to refresh my scarf collection, my current ones are getting very ragged. And my brother nicked my Brideshead Revisited scarf. :-(

― kate (kate), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 09:13 (twenty-two years ago)

kate, let me know if you find any uniqlo v-necks. i went in this weekend and bought a few fleeces (i know, they're so not cool. but my office is SO COLD. warm and toasty when i wear my fleece). i really love uniqlo sweaters and long sleeved t shirts, and they didn't have any v-necks! only turtlenecks, which i don't need.

ok, question about a fall fashion risk...i was in dorothy perkins on saturday and got a few things, including a silver miniskirt. it's kind of pleather, not shiny exactly, more of a pewter silver. (you wouldn't know it to see me on a normal day, but i'm a bit of a magpie, attracted to sparkly and shiny things.) anyway, is this just too much? it looks retro-future to me, which i like. i planned on wearing it with black tights and a ribbed black turtleneck and black ballet flats or if i'm feeling really shiny, my silver prada shoes that i still love. thoughts?

― colette (a2lette), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 13:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Colette, I am pretty sure that I saw UNIQLO v-necks in the shop on Regents Street at the weekend! I didn't get one because they were quite expensive (for UNIQLO, that is) at £25 or £30! They were towards the back, with the male/unisex stuff.

I love the sound of your silver miniskirt, especially with black tights and silver slippers - though I'd never have the guts to wear it offstage!

― kate (kate), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 13:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I am living in V-neck jumpers at the moment. All afternoon Friday spent looking for a brown v-neck & I finally found one in Gap & not only did they not have my size, it was really itchy! yuk!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 14:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Colette, your silver skirt sounds swimming. It is not too much for a night out. I would add a boa for a little extra hmph.

Kate, I saw an ad in a J-magazine that had Uniqlo cashmere cardigans for around $50. Is this true, and are you buying them? I wish Charlton would bring me a soft gray one.

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 21:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I wish Charlton would send back my glittery "Sagitarrius" t-shirt I'm sure he's been sporting all over London.

(just teasing. . .getting a bit too brisk for tees now.)

― A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 22:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I wish Charlton would buy me a Fiat Spider :(

― Allyzay, Tuesday, 28 October 2003 22:07 (twenty-two years ago)

yay! new shoes! i got the beautiful white leather clark wallabees i have been drooling over. i am breaking the white shoe rule, but guess what? i don't care.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 22:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Just hope Rosemary doesn't get wind of them, L.

I think more men should dress like this this season:

http://www.metroactive.com/papers/sonoma/09.12.02/gifs/morrissey-0237.jpg

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 03:50 (twenty-two years ago)

But it's hard to find the RIGHT coffee table to attach to your shoes.

― Carey (Carey), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 03:55 (twenty-two years ago)

One more thing to worry about, I suppose :)

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 03:57 (twenty-two years ago)

man I can never find good lookin' slacks like that.

― hstencil, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 03:59 (twenty-two years ago)

The black shirts that he through into the audience at the end of his shows last year were the dreaded Marc Jacobs label . . .

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 04:04 (twenty-two years ago)

i need to lose some of the paunch before i can pull that off, but ... something to strive for.

― amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 07:59 (twenty-two years ago)

In honour of this thread, I am wearing a V-neck sweater today.

Cashmere Cardigans? Mary, I must investigate this! (Though if I bring one more cardigan into the house, I fear HSA will start burning them, because I have an awful habit of putting them on in the evening and then leaving them strewn around the house when I go to bed, then the next evening, I can't find the one I had before, so I select a new cardigan, until soon, the entire house is awash with strewn cardigans.)

(Awash with strewn cardigans, does that sound like a Smiths lyric or what?)

― kate (kate), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 08:58 (twenty-two years ago)

NEEDED: new winter coat.

URGENT AND KEY: pockets big enough to deposit big ole cd walkman so I don't have to carry it about like an arse all the time. If the other pocket could fit a small paperback, this would be good.

A hood would also be a plus point.

Any ideas where I might find this marvellous winter coat of my dreams?

― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 09:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I too have a v neck jumper on today, they rock!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 09:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Here's mine!

― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I can easily fit a walkman and paperback into my duffle coat. However, I do feel k-indie wearing it atm.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:22 (twenty-two years ago)

That's taking forever to load, Momus. If it's you naked again, I don't want to know - I am at work here! They frown on nakedidity at the NHS, you know! You'll get the cold spoon.

― kate (kate), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I sense it might be time to SUCCUMB TO THE DUFFEL. How is their waterproof-ness? Can you put your hood up and stay dry or does it get soaked through? My current coat is IMPERVIOUS (apart from the holes).

― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)

My parka keeps me very warm & dry. it's so furry!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I have got thoroughly pissed on while wearing it and I did not get wet at all.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:43 (twenty-two years ago)

YES RICK BUT WHAT ABOUT RAIN!!!

― hahahahah (starry), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)

what's the difference between a duffel and a parka? and are we talking american parka or english parka?

by the way, i'd forgotten my fave fashion purchase in recent history. on the road trip, i discovered that target and mervyn's are stocking fantastic character underpants and tank tops and stuff, at pretty darn good prices. hello kitty, care bears, i even got curious george PJs!

― colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Your humble servant in full fall fashion ensemble, Berlin, Monday.

― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Duffel coat.

― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)

It's sort of a strange parka-duffle conflation! How interesting!

English parka - ex-army coat with fur trim around hood. Think mods! Duffle coat - I don't think they have them in America. It is urgent and key that they have toggles instead of buttons.

― kate (kate), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)

'After rain, a good Duffel Coat ought to smell smoky or charred.'

― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Ooh that scarf looks nice with that blue sweater, M. This must be the Berlin method of scarf wearing -- sort of the VA/Shibuya method rotated 90 degrees.

― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

i love duffel coats but i saw a woman who looked a bit like monica bellucci in (L'Apartement) in a bright scarlet one, so i don't entirely agree with the "only black, blue or grey" mandate.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't look good in v-neck anything unless it is very lowcut. I only look good in boatnecks I am increasingly believing. And I can get away with turtlenecks.

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Boatnecks! Those are the things that look good on me, but can I find them anywhere, no. Although I believe the polo neck jumper (high neck?!) what it RED from Salvation Army shop (2.99 do they think I am made of money) seems to work quite well, esp. with hair that is BLACKER THAN BLACK. Blimey-o.

― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

We have duffel coats in America! I felt so special the last time I wore my new duffel coat and I was telling Charlton how fly I was and then he burst my bubble by saying, "Did you look like Paddington Bear?"

My sis told me that less endowed woman should not wear V-necks that point straight to their lack of extremeties. Her source? Trinnie and Susanna. Their quote: "No one wants to look at a bony chest."

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 18:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Boatnecks! Those are the things that look good on me, but can I find them anywhere, no.

It is very difficult! Sometimes I make huge boatnecks out of my sweatshirts so that they have my shoulders mostly out but really to find a nice boatneck is a pain in the ass. I saw some at Urban Outfitters so I ran in only to discover they had shirring on the sleeves arrrrgh. I don't understand why this is so difficult. The last Victoria's Secret catalog had a lot of boatnecks and off-shoulders tops, IIRC.

Mary, Trinnie and Susanna are full of shit because part of my problem is entirely my bosoms in wearing a non-plunging v-necked shirt. It just looks totally off, I instantly gain like 10lbs. I think they look much nicer on girls who are less-than-average in the chest area.

I have just purchased BOOTS! They are knee-high tan suede with chunky wood heels and they are fur-lined and have fur trim! What will ~~Mr. Blackwell~~Tracer Hand say?!

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Explain me turtlenecks.

Am I supposed wear the neck part folded down, like folded in half? Or am I supposed to wear it all squished up, non-folded like? Here is your chance to make a profound impact on someone's life.

― quincie, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:08 (twenty-two years ago)

folded in half; the rare exceptions will be obvious.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, that depends but on a standard issue turtleneck you should fold it down to the appropriate point and wear it as such. Unless it it a cowlneck-style turtleneck or similar specialty type, you should fold once to base of neck.

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh good -- I thought maybe I'd just been wearing my turtlenecks in the dorkiest manner for, oh, fifteen years or so.

― quincie, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Fridays are, and I do quote, "Relaxed Casual" days at my workplace. So last Friday I was wearing a standard-issue black turtleneck and jeans. I think I was also wearing my glasses, which are standard hornrimmed numbers -- neither hip nor non-hip. One of my coworkers told me I looked very nerdy. Another one told me I looked like Eurotrash. Is it possible to look both nerdy and Eurotrashy at the same time?

― quincie, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

But Ally, they say the more endowed women should plunge, that it is a better look for them, and that the less endowed women should have a tiny V with a shirt underneath . . .

More duffel coat history.

Felicity to thread re folding of turtlenecks. She is very artsy and she favors a non-folding squinchy look.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Wear the turtleneck whichever way makes the monogram or little polo pony the right side out -- otherwise, I would say it is a matter of preference.

― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:20 (twenty-two years ago)

BTW, I love the HBC site Mary linked to above. I like their approach to Rudeness:

Rudeness
The large proportion of reader comments are helpful, coherent, and civil. For a sampling of such comments, go to the reader comments page. HBC has, however received some quite amazing comments from readers. One classic example was this one.

"I was searching for boys Victorian hats so i went on your website! I scrolled down to the hats and caps section and thought how crap! you didn't have any selection of hats or even any hats with had when they were made, where it is from or what the hat (s) were used for! So now i dont have any boys hats for my homework so please think about what i have wrote and in the future can you change your site and even maybe put woman's and men's hats! witch are Victorian!"

We will ignore the misspelled words and the poor grammar as we make enough of those mistakes ourselves. We are apauled, however, with the crudness of the message and the fact that the reader would complain about the lack of information on our site. She blames HBC because she was unable to complete her school assignment! Actually there is a great deal of information about both caps and hats, if thge reader had sent a civil request, we would have helped her find it. The rudeness in complaining that our site does nor satisfy all her needs is startling. Our resonse is simply to ignore such messages as the person who sent is no doubt has no idea of how rude she was and probably could care less.

― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't know F. had a white duffel coat:

http://www.saksfifthavenue.com/media/images/products/detail/D0410441361742_416cb.jpg

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I have fallen prey to the folly of the white wool winter coat at last!

― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)

You are in good company.

http://www.goblinjp.com/gimage/imageblythe/ebl4skatedate.gif

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Now that we've figured out what to wear with brown boots, could someone help me figure out what to wear with white boots. In Spring they like wore black and other dark colors and then just threw on the white boots as an accent . . . but my conscience tells me that off white and pink and silver and similar colors might be better.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 30 October 2003 09:21 (twenty-two years ago)

i tend to wear my white boots/shoes as an accent, too, for the same reason - a lot of my clothes are black. my experience with light colors/pastels is more limited, but your instinct feels right to me. pink and silver seem spot on. i also like white with aqua and with loden green.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 30 October 2003 15:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I like the accent look, it is like, yeah I'm wearing white boots, no big . . . but the one time I tried it I think I failed miserably and was v. self-consious. For some reason an image of rolled up black pants is sticking out in my mind. Luckily I don't have these pants.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 30 October 2003 18:52 (twenty-two years ago)

how often do you girls tuck pants into your boots? is this a look of which you approve?

― amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 30 October 2003 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

whoa, is this a proceed-with-caution area! i think there's actually a gene that determines whether or not you look good this way.
i do it occasionally - tight stretch jeans tucked into slightly scrunchy low-heeled boots, with a looser fitting sweater on top. it's the only way this look works on me.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 30 October 2003 19:09 (twenty-two years ago)

(x-post)

I haven't done it personally, but yes I approve, especially if the pants are a little baggy, and if the boots are loose and calf-high.

Some boot history here (I think Carey's already been to this site!) and yes, the pairing of the white boots with aqua is marv.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 30 October 2003 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)

mary and lauren disagree! we need a resolution.

― amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 30 October 2003 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

We don't disagree! I'm sure Lauren looks v. rock star in her method.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 30 October 2003 19:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I sometimes tuck my jeans or better yet leather pants into boots if it is raining or if I wish to feel . . . restricted. I do it with the leather wader boots and my riding boots. All my jeans are skintight, whether they are meant to be or not, due to size delusions when shopping so yeah, I guess the tight pants into boots is the way I do it.

Lauren always looks very stylin' when I see her.

― felicity (felicity), Thursday, 30 October 2003 19:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Pants tucked into boots definitely depends on a magical nexus between girl, pant, and boot. The higher the boot the better, I say. I rock this look occasionally with my knee-high superpointy black gucci boots. I don't have any denim that would work (I only own one pair of proper jeans and they are flares) but I tuck in gray stretch slacks and I think it works. I definitely get a lot of compliments on my boots when I do this!

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 30 October 2003 19:28 (twenty-two years ago)

In 1963 Felicity Green in The Daily Mirror proclaimed "Boots with everything!"

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 30 October 2003 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, i think that mary's and my views coexist rather than clash. so much of this look is down to the particular person, and i look stumpy in baggy pants.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 30 October 2003 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha I share the same pants delusion as felicity! I am always convinced my ass totally fits into a size 6 but this is NOT THE CASE THESE DAYS.

Anyway I would like to try to wear my furry anti-Tracer-Hand boots over pants, they are almost knee-high though--this might be too much?

― Allyzay, Thursday, 30 October 2003 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Felicity Green is my idol!

I know, isn't it odd how the label gremlins get in there and make the size labels all wrong? I refuse to give in to their mischief.

Ally, I think you should wear your furry Caribou boots over leggings and under a cowlneck sweater for a crazed jamais-ski look.

― felicity (felicity), Thursday, 30 October 2003 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)

felicity 100% otm!

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 30 October 2003 20:01 (twenty-two years ago)

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No, Ally, it will be just enough! Where did you get your darling knee-highs, if I may ask?

I am really drawn to the red boots at Hotel Venus (they added red to the black and white that I told you about earlier, but I am having enough problems dressing around my white boots that I don't think now is the time to add red into the equation. However, I could look like this.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 30 October 2003 20:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I got them at Parade of Shoes, surprisingly. They are very comfortable and seemingly well-made, as well, which surprises me because usually that store is shit.

― Allyzay, Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the best thing about boots is that with the right kind of boot and in low lighting it looks like you are wearing kneesocks. I want these cabled wool kneesocks from J.Crew . . . I think in gray . . . now that the weather is a bit nicer I again I can take heart and see that kneesock weather isn't officially over yet.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)

They look like this. I can't decide if they are lovable or hatable, so I am leaning toward lovable.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I think they look adorable.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Here's my daily 'Momus fashion tip' post. Today I bought a crocodile clip for my hair. Men, try it if you dare! It stops those autumn breezes ruffling your carefully-tousled 'do'.

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks Momus! And where is our Dutch fashion master, Erik? I know he wants to talk about argyle kneesocks.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Hooray, I was just wondering where our daily Momus fashion tip was!

Wow that Aryan page from J. Crew is so Mary. I love the socks, and the argyles, and the Aryan sweater and the Aryan gloves.

― felicity (felicity), Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha: Just when you thought I was branching out I return to my old comfort ways.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 30 October 2003 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm going to trot this outfit out for comments: soft black suede knee-high boots, black tights that are opaque yet vertically-striped, black cheerleader kilt, wool boatnecked sweater with fat black and red horizontal stripes. some black plastic jewellry accents. i want slightly dressed-up but still party fun, and i am paranoid about looking "business casual."

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I just remembered what G. said to me when I was in London last winter wearing my white Aryan-knit hat with the pom pom atop it: "You look like a Christmas tree." He really knows how to make me feel good about my sartorial sense.

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Lauren, my eyes have just gotten very big. That sounds like the best outfit I have ever heard of.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:10 (twenty-two years ago)

wool boatnecked sweater with fat black and red horizontal stripes

Did you purchase this at H&M by any chance? Cos if so I also own this article of clothing. You've basically described the sort of thing I wear every single weekend, I am all for your outfit lauren.

― Allyzay, Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Any outfit that includes the words "boots," "cheerleader" and "kilt" can do no wrong.

― felicity (felicity), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Exactly. You had me at cheerleader kilt.

http://park.zero.ad.jp/getty/doll/Blythe1.gif

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

yay! my outfit is blushing.
and yes, the sweater is from h&m. i love it! i got it last year in heather gray and black, and i remember thinking how rad it would be if they did it in bright colors.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:18 (twenty-two years ago)

After looking at the boots history page again, I have decided that my next boot purchase must be white knee high boots with a buckle at the top. Mary, we will brave this storm together!

I also say go for the red boots. My burgundy boots I was wearing on Saturday, that was only the 2nd time I had worn them although I bought them like 3 years ago in Camden. The time IS NOW, obviously.

― Carey (Carey), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I WANT WHITE BOOTS SO BAD I CAN TASTE THEM OMG

― allyzay, Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess I am a little partial to the scrunchy style of turtleneck wearing:

http://www.frontstyle.com/shopping/brand/ascenseur/coordinate/421.jpg

I want a coat like this. Ally looks so nice in hers and this girl is so happy in hers:

http://www.frontstyle.com/shopping/brand/ascenseur/coordinate/426.jpg

― felicity (felicity), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Red is a good color for a coat. It is the color of happiness and of power. And also bordellos.

― Allyzay, Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:42 (twenty-two years ago)

There was a coat at Darling at 8th ave and 12th St. that I saw today that looked very similar to that and even had the belt. I have to go back there because they had nice skirts with cool buckle accents.

― Carey (Carey), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Coated belts and me don't mix. That reminds me, and I think I drawing on something from way upthread, but what is so wrong about looking like a box? I think it's keen. I would rather look like a box than a circle.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 31 October 2003 00:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Is Darling like a Julie Christie store or something?

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 31 October 2003 00:30 (twenty-two years ago)

It was just a cute little boutique. There were 3-4 skirts there that I really liked with these triangular buckles. And they had some nice coats.

― Carey (Carey), Friday, 31 October 2003 00:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Here's another fashion dilemma: corderoy pants & cord purse. They're both the same shade of sand/tan-- I've yet to wear them together, since it just feels weird, but should I worry?

Purse is a gap bag, although they don't have the tan color online anymore. And the pants are just basic bootcut cord pants.

― lyra (lyra), Friday, 31 October 2003 02:49 (twenty-two years ago)

i am wearing brown and black striped sweater (designer but 2 seasons old), black stripes are 2" (5cm) brown stripes 1" (2.5cm).) jeans older than all of you and a pair of brown and baby blue adidas.

it is not very fashionable but yet, it is practical and sometimes.......... function first.

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 31 October 2003 04:19 (twenty-two years ago)

What kind of socks should be worn with Chelsea boots and any other boot of that height? And should they be pulled up or folded down? I only wear them with pants, so it doesn't matter, but having tube socks on under boots makes me feel strange.

― Sarah Pedal (call mr. lee), Friday, 31 October 2003 07:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Ankle socks with Chelsea boots. I am Queen of Chelsea Boots! I have about 5 pairs of the things, with various permutations of cuban or flat heel, square, round or pointed toe, or zipper/pull-on.

I have very thick ankle socks which are about an inch to two inch longer than the boots, which perfectly cover that area of the leg skin which gets cold if your trousers ride up. Though my favourite look is thick black tights and Chelsea boots - in which case you have to have little tiny socklets which just cover the foot so the boots don't tear up your tights!

― kate (kate), Friday, 31 October 2003 09:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I love wearing my knee high socks, i've got a grey pair that have snowflakes on them.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 31 October 2003 09:38 (twenty-two years ago)

scarve from laredoute, mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

http://www.redoute.be/_inc/collection/be/joselevy.JPG

― eriik, Friday, 31 October 2003 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Taking sides: vertically striped scarves vs. horizontally striped scarves?

― kate (kate), Friday, 31 October 2003 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread so needs more photos like Felicity's. Haven't you guys heard of digital cameras?

― Mark C (Mark C), Friday, 31 October 2003 14:07 (twenty-two years ago)

The Momus fashion tip for Friday:

Every classy lady embraces
A chap in waders and braces

― Momus (Momus), Friday, 31 October 2003 15:32 (twenty-two years ago)

und der haifish der hat sahne..

― eriik, Friday, 31 October 2003 15:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Oooh, I like it, Momus. Very Country Life-su. And I knew instantly that was an Erik photo before I had even scrolled halfway down!

― felicity (felicity), Friday, 31 October 2003 15:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Lyra, I shy away from the cord-on-cord, but I can't think of any important reason why you should. Maybe try it, and get back to us?

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 31 October 2003 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Mark, buy me a digital camera and I will take lots of Fall Fashion photos.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Friday, 31 October 2003 16:45 (twenty-two years ago)

man i need more clothes. . .but when I do buy them I have a hard time buying work-appropriate clothes.

Today I'm just barely there. Black capris, orange tee (it's halloween) black clogs, no hose/socks, and (in my room where it's cold) a black cardigan. Too casual to be truly professional but eh. I'm mostly concerned with comfort up here.

― A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Friday, 31 October 2003 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I want to talk about the great outfit I got for the wedding but I can't until the wedding is over but it's really great yeah it is gee sure yeah uh-huh!!!

― Sarah (starry), Friday, 31 October 2003 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

ok sarah, now's your chance. do tell...

― colette (a2lette), Monday, 3 November 2003 12:42 (twenty-two years ago)

yes ignore the other thread

― eriik, Monday, 3 November 2003 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Sarah - spill about the wedding outfit!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 3 November 2003 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Or should I wait for Steve to post the photo... actually I had best not in case of KNICKER SHOWING.

Ok ok my take on the outfit is "ballet audience member from the 50s got lost". It is a black sparkly top complete with MAHOUSIVE swishy black satin skirt with pale pink edging and a pink BOW round the waist topped off with a rather smashing pale pink cardigan with silver sparkly bits on the top! If I had had enough time to find pale pink shoes I would have worn them as well but in the end I went for my comfy but boring black shoes. The skirt spins out rather impressively whenever one turns and when made to SPIN! round on the dancefloor flares out so much than I am aph34r3d people could see me PANTS. Isabel's skirt was a lot better but then again that is to be expected, hurrah for big skirts!

― Sarah (starry), Monday, 3 November 2003 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

It does not sound as good in words.

― Sarah (starry), Monday, 3 November 2003 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)

No, it sounds great!

― Nicolars (Nicole), Monday, 3 November 2003 13:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't wait to see a pic.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 3 November 2003 13:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Hotel Venus has sold out of its dusty pink tippets, so I will not lose sleep due to the weals of bunny ghosts from my closet. However, they have a new infusion of legwarmer products. I yearned for the hearty ones but my shopping partner digressed, therefore I settled on black ones, these ones are larger at the bottom than the top so that you can pull them around the back of your ankle, but they only stay that way for a bit before returning to the top of your ankle, oh, and also long wool winter (off)white gloves.

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 9 November 2003 20:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyone know where I can find a nice black military-style top coat? I need a black coat, but not a totally boring one.

― daria g (daria g), Monday, 10 November 2003 01:29 (twenty-two years ago)

where do you live?

― Carey (Carey), Monday, 10 November 2003 02:13 (twenty-two years ago)

i asked this on the other fashion thread, but it just isn't the same...

what do you all think about the faux-fur coats that several places have out right now? they look toasty warm and are fun to pet. but totally silly? or just silly enough to get away with?

― colette (a2lette), Monday, 10 November 2003 10:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I reckon go for it, if you like the look of them. I think it would depend on the specific coat as to whether or not it would look silly, but if you like it, you should go right on ahead.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 10 November 2003 10:56 (twenty-two years ago)

After seeing Felicity's mittenlets last night, I've decided they will be my next fabulous knitting project! Along with the legwarmers (which I fear now are TOO slouchy but if I am pretend I am a Japanese schoolgirl wearing socks a zillion times too large I should get away with it. Hey perhaps I should order that sock glue stuff).

Actually there was a girl wearing the same legwarmers I MADE MYSELF at the train station this morning. She looked Korean though. BUT STILL.

― Sarah (starry), Monday, 10 November 2003 10:59 (twenty-two years ago)

The best thing about my current apartment: it is across the street from a terrific clothier, meaning I now have a large stock of Ben Sherman shirts, which rule. Recently I splurged on a black and grey sweater and an ace black 3/4 length coat, also from Ben Sherman; they were expensive but worth it. Since I always wear black jeans (got a couple pair of painter's style from Old Navy, where I always shop--brickbats ahoy, I suppose--right before the NYC FAP two weeks ago) and have a rather nice pair of grey suede buckled slip-ons, together w/the sweater and coat I was looking rather stylish. Most of the time, though, I just wear the Ben Shermans--or the plaid button-downs I've been buying at the North Face (one block from work) in a pinch. It's really nice to know I look at least somewhat presentable.

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 10 November 2003 11:12 (twenty-two years ago)

eee.
you guys are adorable.

'ello.

i bought some fabofashionistic things today, online.
i feel like sharing my finds.
i hope you(all) won't mind.

http://home.comcast.net/~snowstory/rednecklace.jpg

http://www.paper-doll.com/product/paper-doll_com-product-133-1.jpg

i am satisfied.
and thank you for your attention.

― a sleepyshy speck o' sillysnow, Monday, 10 November 2003 11:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Nice top/jacket type thing, it looks lovely & soft.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 10 November 2003 12:08 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, that's great! I broke down and bought this over the weekend but it doesn't get here for a week or so:

http://images.eluxury.com/assets_server/product/10468723/p10468723_ph_althero_Guacamole.jpg

I'm not sure about the color but the other choices were worse except for black, and I already have too much black.

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 10 November 2003 13:03 (twenty-two years ago)

It's nice to go for a different colour every now & again Teeny, I'm sure it'll look great.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 10 November 2003 13:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Matos, the Ben Sherman shirts are soooooo becoming on you. I love whne you find a brand to love. (ps, I think I saw the JJ and AWK blonde chick last night at rififi).

― Carey (Carey), Monday, 10 November 2003 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

target purchases this weekend: black suede coat, $50; 3/4 sleeve, tight v-neck red sweater that's almost fleece-like, $14; bling-bling rhinestone "S" necklace, $7.

― A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 01:12 (twenty-two years ago)

long cashmere gloves? Well I'm still looking for really long ones, but I found something quite acceptable today...at Target! It's the Isaak Mizrahi line, too!

I got myself a pair of these gloves the other day (in solid black)!

― j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 01:22 (twenty-two years ago)

D'oh! They have plain black now at Target? need black gloves..

Carey, as regards the coat - southern New England, near enough to Boston, don't plan to be in NYC any time soon unfortunately.

― daria g (daria g), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 02:17 (twenty-two years ago)

ps, I think I saw the JJ and AWK blonde chick last night at rififi

jaw

drops

― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 02:21 (twenty-two years ago)

When I was there they had them only in solid black, and black and white. (I don't hate color, but the type of color things come in is usually wrong for me -- royal blue instead of slate blue, bright orange-red instead of deep blue-red, coral instead of pink.)

― j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 02:23 (twenty-two years ago)

In the meantime, tomorrow I think I will combine the turtleneck and tall boots mandates.

― j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 02:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I did the tall brown boots with ivory kneesocks poking out & a skirt thing today. :-) All was good until I was out walking my dog at 4 PM & my knees almost froze to bits in the wind.

― lyra (lyra), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 04:59 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.fg.ru/images/articles_interview_one/152.jpg

― phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 06:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Those look a bit like.. um.... walking wedding cakes.

― lyra (lyra), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 06:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Do you guys like coulottes?

http://www.saksfifthavenue.com/media/images/products/array/A0415426677856_3c631.jpg

I have a dark curduroy pair from last year but I'm not sure I'm feeling them this year.

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 22:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I now desire the mittens I see in THE FACE magazine with one happy ghost face and one sad ghost face. However they say they are 100quid each from an Aussie fashion house what I can't even find on teh intarwebbe so MEH to them and I will be asking my knitting guru how I make them.

― Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 22:59 (twenty-two years ago)

that reminds me, I bought a ridiculously large skein of fisherman's wool and am looking for a good scarf pattern--I might be ready to try something more complicated than straight knit/purl.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 03:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I have seen Sarah's starrygoth hand-knit legwarmers and they are divine! I like the slouchyness and their asymmetric methodology. Action photos of legwarmermaking to come, perhaps (if I can get the encessary talent releases) . . .

sillysnow, I like your necklace. Your color scheme is very popular in the Clerkenwell area.

Pleats No Thanks is above me, I am afraid.

I am officially on board the argyle bandwagon, thanks to A. and s.

― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 04:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Voodoo Wrist Warmers?

Or you could try a bag...

― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 13:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I am wearing today a black beret, a grey marled turtleneck sweater, a black pencil skirt, thigh highs with backseams and those knee high stretch boots felicity said she liked. I feel v. boring today. My underwear is a lot more exciting and I did not want to put on clothing at all, but I am being forced to go to WORK which is some BULLSHIT.

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I like the seamed stockings and tall boots. (i hate wearing those stretchy boots thought).

today i'm super boring. long, black skirt, plain thigh-highs, loafers, cardigan and cap-sleeved red tee. I"m wearing the latter since it might be one of the last days I can wear short-sleeves to school. I'm getting my new tat tomorrow. yay.

― A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I hate the stretchy boots too because you have to yank them up all day as they start to slide about 20 minutes after you put them on. felicity said they looked good when she saw them but they make me hyper aware of what's going on with my feet!

I am so happy I do not have to work tomorrow because maybe I can wear something better, I say as if I'm not going to put on my too big jeans and a pair of sketchers and a t-shirt.

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:04 (twenty-two years ago)

YOU CAN ONLY BRING YOURSELF UP BY BRINGING THOSE AROUND YOU DOWN.

― PHIL OSOPHY (Johnney B), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:07 (twenty-two years ago)

That's true.

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I hate those stretchy boots because they give the impression that my calves are too chunky for boots with zips, which they mostly are, but by not wearing any boots at all, I can disguise the fact, to myself at least.

― Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Try campers (they seem to be larger around the calf) or just some slouch boots, as I have this problem but am ok with both of these.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)

ally, i think your boring fashion day is equal to my dressiest/most interesting fashion day! you should come over and do a trini and suzannah 'what not to wear' on me and my wardrobe sometime...

― colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)

My calves are too skinny and the stretch boots do not stay up properly but also sometimes they SWIM in boots with zips :(

The only ones that don't have this are Aldo because Aldo is scientifically proven to be made for people who have apparently suffered foot binding torture their entire lives to prevent normal width growth (in most brands normal width is actually slightly wide on me; Aldos OTOH have caused me blisters that resemble gangrenous sores that take weeks to heal).

haha xpost I will gladly come over! My problem is I have so much clothes that I just automatically hate everything I wear, nothing seems special at all. It's overwhelming--maybe I should just start offering up items on ILX?? Instead of selling them at a store?

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:26 (twenty-two years ago)

urgh I have a similar boot problem...my feet are a bit wide though (although not so much that I have to buy special sizes) and if the shoe/boot has a pointy toe, sometimes I will go a half-size or a size larger to avoid that obvious 'my toe is actually here' bulge in the leather. So I'm buying shoes that are size 9 or 10, but my skinny legs swim in the boots and look funny. I have heard that there are places which will narrow boot legs for you, but I am distrustful.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Well there are places that will do it but my big qualm with this is that I am already paying $100+ (if I'm lucky) on the boots, and my legs are not even remotely abnormally skinny--why do I have to pay another $40+ to get them to fit?

But your problem is a bit different teeny in that you are actually quite thin (I'm not and I think the fact that I have a difficult time finding knee-high boots--don't have this issue with midcalf or overtheknee boots--that fit is evidence of that whole "bigging up of the sizes" phenom that is going on in the clothing industry as well). So yeah, you can take them to a place and they will take in your shoes--taking in is a lot more reliable and easy than the stretching out so it should be ok! You could ask the people at the store for recommendations.

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:33 (twenty-two years ago)

i am going for casual supercomfort today, because i have hangover head and anything else is beyond me. tight raspberry pink and black striped cashmere-esque tee, black cardigan, super-dark earl jeans, and my trusty black pointed boots. i will probably apply too much eyeliner later, in an attempt to make myself look less dead. or more dead. or something.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:43 (twenty-two years ago)

ooh, i can only imagine a huge ILX girly swap meet where we can all trade clothes and accessories...that could be so fun! too bad about the whole two continents thing.

― colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 16:02 (twenty-two years ago)

it would be cool, but i fear we are all different shapes & sizes!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)

but there are still mittenlet possibilities!

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh god yes, how could i forget?

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I am going for my patented "who me, work?" look today. Wrinkled button down light blue shirt (untucked) with a dark blue sweater vest over it, black rocketdog velcro shoes, mascara and chapstick, ponytail, and my favorite- black trousers with a rebel zipper. I wear these everyday, and I am strangely not bothered by going into federal buildings and talking to "important" people with my fly undone.

― Carey (Carey), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 16:07 (twenty-two years ago)

"rebel zipper"?

― A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 16:11 (twenty-two years ago)

My zipper will not stay up!

I guess I should just but new trousers. I hate buying work clothes, which is why I dress like an intern when I work.

― Carey (Carey), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 16:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the solution for boots is to make them like bra sizes. I would be a 7.5 D probably. Half sizes and big calves, ugh.

Marks and Spencer do both half sizes and leather zip-up boots which fit me, thank goodness. Magic and Sparkle indeed.

Now, what really gets on my nerves is paying £9.50 to get my boots resoled and heeled after I've only worn them seven times (and the only walking I do is to and from the bus stop). They cost £55 so after 40.5 wearings I've paid as much for repairs as I paid for the boots. Grrr.

― Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the alterations/dry cleaners around the corner from me has a hand in the "size 6 is now called a size 2" thing. I just bought a pair of size 0 jeans, and they need be taken around the waist. And I'm not that skinny!

If we're going to be doing this, perhaps they could start making negative sizes? Otherwise I have to get a lot of skirts & pants taken in so that they don't threaten to slide off my hips- DKNY is the worst, I love their skirts, but they only make a "2" for the smallest size, which hasn't a hope of really fitting me. If I flip through my closet, my high school skirts -when I weighed less than I do know- are 6s. And now I'm heavier & into 2s and 0s. Argh.

This evening, however, I'm off to Old Navy to restock up on Tshirts- I love white ones, but I always spill coffee on them, and then forget to wash them right away when I get home. I wish there was some service I could sign up for, have 4 white tshirts delivered here every 3 or 4 months.

― lyra (lyra), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)

your high school skirts may be junior sizes, which would explain why there is such a difference. even allowing for crazy sizing these days, a 0 is very small - the corresponding waist size in earl/seven/paperdenimcloth etc is 25/6.
anyway.
this is the coat that i lust after:
http://www.enokiworld.com/goods/cashinlimeboucle.jpg

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

(Also: DK makes clothes for a more full-figured woman who likes to go to India and meditate on her holidays.) Who makes the above, L.?

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 19:30 (twenty-two years ago)

it's a vintage cashin coat. a mere $500 or so on enoki's site. the really irritating part is that it might actually be the right size!

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 19:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I want these outfits:

http://202.167.40.26/Suave/suavescans/images/extra073-Spice_Girls_01.jpg

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 19:43 (twenty-two years ago)

it's a vintage cashin coat.

I just got a vintage cashin coat off of ebay, I am so pleased! It was only $75, much cheaper than buying a new coat and it is in almost perfect condition. I should try finding the picture of it...

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 19:45 (twenty-two years ago)

ally did you see this pic of beyonce?

http://cache.eonline.com/Gossip/Fashion/Images2003/knowles.beyonce102003.jpg

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 13 November 2003 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh god I ~~want~~ need black boots.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 14 November 2003 18:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I might buy some new clothes, but it takes alot of effort. My ideal autumn look is cords and garish hawaiian shirt and jumper (sweater) over the top and same coat everyday, and either DMs or smelly old trainers. I think J Mascis is quite stylish, serious.

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 14 November 2003 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Are there situations outside of the boudoir which call for the wearing of white lace fingerless gloves? And are some of these situations called FAPs?

I bought my first pair of thigh-high legwarmers today. They are slate gray -- I think are going to be very useful. I attempted to buy my first pair of thigh-high socks, but they are actually just knee-socks.

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 16 November 2003 02:29 (twenty-two years ago)

http://images.eluxury.com/assets_server/product/10468723/p10468723_ph_althero_Guacamole.jpg

So I got this shirt in the mail and it was everything I wanted it to be. The material is very soft and thin (very sexy with nothing underneath). The color is a bit striking but will be a good splash of color in my winter wardrobe. I'll likely be wearing it under band girly tees. The cut and sizing is perfect, in fact maybe a bit too slim since it exaggerates my skinny arms. And the arms are gloriously long!

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 17 November 2003 15:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I think these are a compensatory device for my lack of white lace crinoline.

http://www.francoamericannovelty.com/Images/Accessories/gloves/jpeg/31904-01.jpg

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Seattle has been sooo dark & rainy & stormy that I went & got a bright red + white wrap dress, which I'm wearing to work tomorrow. I'm afraid the bright color might blind my coworkers, so there will be a toasty dark sweater in my bag to cover it a bit if need be. I've always liked the look of wrap dresses, but this is my first real one- it's so comfy! Not DVF, though, those are kind of expensive. :(

― lyra (lyra), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 07:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I washed my green shirt and now the sleeves only cover my palms a little. :( Still miles better than any other shirt I own, though.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Harsh!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 13:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I bought brown boots with a furry trim. But now I'm not sure if they fit or if I like them so they might be returned and I MAY get a different pair. Argh.

― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 13:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Furry trim sounds cozy, though. Does the trim poke out the seams down the side? I love that look, but it's never cold enough here to need fuzzy boots.

― lyra (lyra), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Sarah - post a pic!!1

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I do not have a picture. And Shoe Express has not quite caught up with Schuh/Faith/Office ect in their web-skeelz. No fur poking out the side chiz. Annoyingly there are two obvious looking seams down the front which make them a bit too "girls from hollyoaks would wear this" for my hating fun tastes.

― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I've been wanting a wrap dress for some time. I should look around.

― JuliaA (j_bdules), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 16:57 (twenty-two years ago)

nine months pass...

Revive for Fall 2004!

I have very poor fashion sense and enjoyed reading this thread last year. I hope the fashion-savvy ilxors will pull it off again this year. . .

― quincie, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

oh yeah, pictures are encouraged!

― quincie, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

tokyo rosemary knitted me a red scarf. it's beautiful. i'm waiting for the weather to cooperate. nothing i like more than a nice scarf.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)

L, London owes the charmer under you.

I am going to stand by my belief this fall, that brooches are already way over, before even really beginning.

― Carey (Carey), Thursday, 9 September 2004 01:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Hm, what about fashionable hair this autumn huh? Any ideas ladeez?

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 9 September 2004 07:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I really wanted second hand cowboy boots. Yesterday I looked in teh vintage sections of Top Shop and Miss Selfridge and they were all about £80! I'm not bloody paying that for pre-owned boots. I'll try Camden Market at the weekend, but I think giving up on my boot dreams may be near.

― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 9 September 2004 09:21 (twenty-one years ago)

i want cowboy boots, too, anna. really, really nice tony llama ones made out of some kind of reptile. i tried to talk a friend into buying me a pair as a going away present, but they're a bit (ha) expensive. i'm in the land of cheap vintage right now for a few weeks, so i'm going to see what i can find.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 9 September 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Are the poncho thingies over yet? Seems as though they ought to be.

Question: what do I do with all of these reasonably nice, very conservative (read: Brooks Brothers) button-down oxfords now that I have decided that I henceforth refuse to tuck anything in? Can I wear them with the tail out under a sweater, paired with my usual wool slacks? This is for work, mind you. I just hate to not make use of decent clothing I already own. Other ideas on how to wear oxfords in a non-tucked-in fashion welcomed.

― quincie, Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Where are ally and teeny? They helped me with my turtleneck issue last year.

― quincie, Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't know what your workplace is like, but i'd assume that an untucked oxford at work would look too sloppy. it's a bit 14 yr old prep school boy (not a bad look in and of itself, but not exactly office wear).

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I love autumn colors. I've already done a bit of shopping because it's chilly here in Chicago, at least this week.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

so, does my brown belt have to be the same brown as my shoes, or can it be a little off?

― todd swiss (eliti), Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

haha - when I saw this thread I thought: "ponchos must die now." They should have never begun, especially the cheap synthetic ones. Shudder.

Re: the oxford shirts: if you're long-waisted, they can look okay with a really thin black (or other colour, of course) belt. (If you're short-waisted, however, (like me), this just makes you look weird.) I think those shirts are just meant for tucking, especially if they have proper tails rather than the cropped straight across and tailored-at-the-waist look of shirts that are often meant not to be tucked anyway.

I have no money, but I still like to talk about fashion even though it pains me a bit, especially the shoe stuff. But whatevah, go on please.

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey, thanks for reviving the fashion thread. I agree on the ponchos. k-lame. Oxford shirts I like untucked under a lightweight cable knit sweater or sweater T, that would work. I am pretty damn broke, I just shop thrift for the most part b/c the thrifts where I live are stupendous, I just found a Jean Paul Gaultier jacket the other day for like $14. (Decided to sell it on eBay so I can buy other things, though.)

I am trying to stop myself from collecting too many vintage 3/4 sleeve jackets as they're taking up too much space in my closet. I love tweed, even if it is absolutely everywhere.

Been looking all over for 50's cardigans by Darlene with screen printed flowers. I want more, dammit!

www.northstarvintage.com:

― daria g (daria g), Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.northstarvintage.com/ebay/bluedarlene5.jpg

― daria g (daria g), Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

You can make your oxford shirts more interesting by adding a great costume jewelry brooch, or one of those silk flower pins. (Um, I'm hoping you're a girl) I like the sleeveless sweater vest idea too, but that can look a bit too all J Crew catalogue. I like J Crew, but sometimes I feel like I'm trapped at Vassar or something.
Target has some great shoes for the fall for around $25. http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00007KDXK.16._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg
I heart Target. I'm trying to find a fur(fake) Anna Karenina style hat that doesn't dwarf my head. Most of them are just too big and fluffy. I may look in Chicago next weekend.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I love Target, jocelyn, but I don't think I've ever found any size 11 women's shoes there. :-( I'll look again tonight maybe. I want some round-toed dark brown dress shoes, maybe boots.

I don't get ponchos. I really wish the fancy brooches fad will carry on for a while longer because I have this tin full of them which belonged to my Grandmother. It's nice to be able to take them out and give them a whirl. My great-grandmother wore most of them before her.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

My grandmother had great clothes, my mom to salvage her fur coats but hey hadn't been properly stored and were ruined., I was looking at pictures of her and my grandpa at Atlantic City in the 1930's the other day and they were both so stylish.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

O.K., I think I will go out on a limb and try the sweater-over-untucked-oxford thing, especially because I am a)a chick, b)a chick with a long waist (I'm over 5'10''), and c)a chick with a long waist whose workplace is "business casual" Mon-Thurs and "relaxed casual" on Fridays. I think if I actually brushed my hair and put on some lipstick I could pull off the untucked thing.

My next question: will I be sorry if I spend a bunch of money on a red coat? I currently have only a boring black wool pea coat and a lovely vintage black lambswool coat (the curly sheepy kind) with a white curly sheepy collar, which I'm pretty sure I'm not cool enough to pull off. But I like the idea of a red coat.

Perhaps I should have posted to the "I need a coat" thread!

― quincie, Thursday, 9 September 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I take that back, that vintage coat is not lambswool (like a lambswool sweater) and not sheepskin like with the curly stuff on the INSIDE; the cury stuff looks like pincurls and is on the OUTSIDE NOW WHAT IS THIS CALLED HUH?

― quincie, Thursday, 9 September 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Can't recall offhand what that is called! I know what you mean, it's like curly wool.

I say, spend the $$ on a red coat. I went and dropped like $180 on a coral orange-pink pea coat last fall, after my favorite black one got stolen. It stressed me at first because I thought, what in the world matches coral? But then I realized all the bright colors I wore that didn't match were sweaters and tops, while I usually wore black/denim/grey trousers or patterned skirts in muted colors, so everything that showed with the coat on, matched.

I love J Crew, I admit it.. Hopefully I don't look too prep school in the stuff 'cause I match it up with weird things I thrifted. But the sweaters are super good quality. I just got a new catalog and I can't really afford much of anything but I might buy a cardigan or two anyhow. I want more cobalt blue stuff now.

― daria g (daria g), Thursday, 9 September 2004 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

i got this funny little shearling fur hat with tassles hanging down on two suede strings at anna sui. i like it

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 9 September 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

My next question: will I be sorry if I spend a bunch of money on a red coat?

No, I bought a red pea coat two winters ago and I love it dearly. As mentioned upthread most things you wear on your lower half are fairly neutral. Anyway, if you have another coat you can alternate.

(Lauren, if you see any boots in a UK size 4 for under, say, [has exchange rate breakdown] $40 (?) let me know and I will give you the money and then cocktails as a carrier's charge. - I'm kind of joking, I think I just mean if you run into them or they fall from the sky with 'Anna will love us' pinned to them or something.)

― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 9 September 2004 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

no problem, anna. let me know color prefs and i'll keep an eye out when i'm shopping. i'm assuming i'll be able to find you something great as a size 4 is perfect for vintage shoes. i'm usually a uk 5, and that's just slightly too big for the most fabulous pairs. frankly, i'm thinking about getting a big load of stuff from a few warehouse-y type places out here and shipping it over for a friend to resell at an insane mark-up.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 9 September 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

will I be sorry if I spend a bunch of money on a red coat?

probably not, especially taking into account the fact that you have several black coats. go for it. i almost bought an amazing red wool coat (lined with heavy pale pink silk) last autumn when i just got a big freelance check, but i talked myself out of it because of practicality issues. it may have been the right thing to save the $$, but i still regret not having that coat.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 9 September 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

jcrew has the best fall line. lots of great stuff to mix and match.

banana republic's is very disappointing.

― todd swiss (eliti), Thursday, 9 September 2004 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

jcrew's autumn line is the same as it always is, too work-y, button down shirts and boring trousers. what are you seeing that I am not?

― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 9 September 2004 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I want the boots the assassins wore in "Hero". In all the colours. They're much nicer/clean-lined than Ugg(h) boots, yet are still slipper-like. Mmm, slipper shoes...

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe i like work-y

― todd swiss (eliti), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

banana republic's is very disappointing.

its really weird. BR's women's stuff is looking really good these days. men's stuff is okay. a little more distinctive. im getting the velvet coat. for free! hah, yay.

― phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 10 September 2004 07:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I have got a wedding to go to next friday & i really don't want to do the usual pretty dress thing, any help would be much appreciated. I seriously am getting stressed over this. I mean it's gotta be smartish right? But it can still be really stylish cant it?

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 10 September 2004 07:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks Lauren! Anything neutral, black or brown really. But don't worry about it, just if you run into them.

Pink, now about a jacket and a skirt? Or a trouser suit? At least with seperates you can wear them later. The last wedding I went to I wore a vintage beaded cocktail dress I bought in a moment of dress-lust madness at Camden market and hadn't really had the chance to wear. The previous one I bought a cream tailored jacket and a pink chiffon skirt and took a gold bag and sandals I already owned. I still wear the jacket with jeans and I wear the skirt as a top. (It's floppy enough to pull up and had an elasticated waist.)

― Anna (Anna), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Well i thought about some sort of suit, but i wonder if it's really me you know? I need something pretty cost effective that I can wear afterwards. (I love the idea of wearing a skirt as a top btw!) So any thoughts as to where might be best to start looking?

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I am bigging up huggable fabrics for autumn. For the wedding we're going to next weekend I'm going to wear a flouncy lilac-raspberry-purple (it's kind of shimmery, OK?) crushed silk velvet skirt from Monsoon (£40 arrgh, but it was on sale from £65, god Monsoon are a ripoff) with a heathery slinky deep v-neck jumper. Separates are totally key for weddings - if you're comfortable you'll feel grebt.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I think that's it!! if you feel comfy you invariably look better. v necks will be the way to fo i imagine for me.

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:10 (twenty-one years ago)

How about a skirt and a cardigan then? Or you could go proper full-on 30's glam and get a fur stole instead. The high street shops are full of fake versions at the moment.

Maybe try Oasis? Their suiting stuff is always well cut for the price and they have that new section where they've taken vintage patterns and re-worked them for more modern bodies (lower waists, more room around the ribs, no need for mad pointy bras etc).

x-post with Liz, that sounds lovely. Yes, I forget Pink, both you and Liz are more well-endowed in the bossom area than me. Go v-neck.

― Anna (Anna), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Uh huh!! V necks are my saviour most of the time. If i don't, it makes me look even more dumpy, grr! I might opt for a fake fur stole, but i'd never get a real one!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes v-neck for maxiumum titx0r. Hurrah but must remember not to bend over.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:15 (twenty-one years ago)

haha! or sit next to a pissed old bloke or a work colleague! I remember my cleavage/boobs being a subject of discussion at the work Xmas party. My boss saying 'well it's hard not to notice them really'!!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I have to go to a very FASHION wedding in October. Might not have to shop as grey tweed suit of grandmother's with fur collar removed to create moody Japanese/Belgian effect is apparently just like Marni this fall according to friend who can afford to shop there. I'm in the middle of losing butt weight, the looks that work best for me are Annie Hall or preppy or flapper, and since I can't afford much inherited vintage is going to be helpful.

Went shopping for the first time in ages with a budget of £40 and between Uniqlo (3/4 length pearl-grey shirt and anti-fishnet tights) and H&M (skirt with patterns like Clarice Cliff homeware, black and red tops) managed to have change left over. And in other good news, my grandmother's black shirtwaist dress with the cute panels and 3/4 sleeves (c. 1959) looks great with the yellow kitten-heeled stripper's shoes. It would look fantastic with a tulle slip or something.

Yesterday at work I tweaked a press release for someone and "won" a cashmere sweater when the samples come in. Boss keeping me very sweet indeed.

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Nice work with the budget shopping! Tweed suit sounds ace and very classy indeed, you could rock that look with a neat hat of some kind?

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:21 (twenty-one years ago)

You know? I am giving up entirely on v-necks although I have ginormous knockers. I like hem hem BOAT NECKS and high round neck things. Keep those puppies on a leash, say I.

Everything upstairs at Topshop now is BRILLIANT by the way and I want it all. Lovely greens and burgundies that remind me that I haven't been HUNTING GAME for a while.

Man why don't *I* know anyone who is getting married? Not that I have anything to wear. Ugh I am so going to give away half my clothes at some point I am so fed up with everything I own apart from my green jumper which am ace and er, my brown short sleeved jumper which also am ace and er, oh, sorry, I just got distracted by a potted plant.

I also need plain black TROUSIS for werk but with my lardy BELLY but my short STATURE this is difficult innit. Perhaps MARKS AND SPENCER will save me.

― Starry (hello chickens), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I just bought a new plaid skirt and a thin knitted black sweater with a frilly collar. Someone said I looked Amish in them. I was rather pleased, actually!

I also bought a really nice black manchester coat that looks a bit 50s. Am thinking of starting to wear hats too, but I feel a bit weird just trying them on, so I don't know.

― Hanna (Hanna), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I HATE buying trousers because my legs are to short and my hips are too wide and I have never in my life tried on a pair of trousers that actually fit. And I'm to lazy to have them altered.

― Hanna (Hanna), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:27 (twenty-one years ago)

ooh i love this top, but maybe a little bit much for me!
http://www.oasis-stores.com/clothesRail/images/2208.jpg

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:28 (twenty-one years ago)

i could see anna in that top though!
maybe perhaps this...
http://www.oasis-stores.com/clothesRail/images/2200.jpg

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:32 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.oasis-stores.com/clothesRail/images/2347.jpg

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:33 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.oasis-stores.com/clothesRail/images/2230.jpg

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I've got one good hat that I got in a sample sale at work for £1 - it's actually a design collaboration between Ron Arad and Alessi.

I may be wanting some emerald green shoes (possibly some form of Mary Jane or a correct deadstock '50s stiletto or a rounded toe). If you want to know why you're getting these colour choices right now, check out the cinematography of Far From Heaven.

Hahaha if you want to know what colour of aged lace/chiffon nightie-top to wear, look down your shirt and I guarantee the best colour will match your uhh complexion (but it is true). This type of top looks great with 'aged black'/sepia skirt in most fabrics you'd choose to go with that.

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:36 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.oasis-stores.com/clothesRail/images/2267.jpg

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I love the first two, I think I would love them even more in green (spot the red-head). I am a bit rubbish with wrap over tops. I like my boobs, they're an okay size (34B) and they stand up straight, but without a bra that does a major smoosh together job I don't have a cleavage as such, so wrap over things tend towards being indecent.

I so wish my grandmothers had kept their clothes.

― Anna (Anna), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, mine tried to. My dad's wife made one of her executive decisions and gave/threw most of them away but this woman wouldn't know couture if it bit her on the ass.

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe if I'm really lucky, my grandmother will have left me some lab coats or something. ;-)

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Could have had mine's green wellies, but that's about it. She was a sensible country woman with a filthy mind and I miss her rather a lot.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:52 (twenty-one years ago)

cn someone please tell me where i can buy a plain red zipped hoody in the UK please, pref. London?? x

― stevie (stevie), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I had a similar problem, Stevie. I ended up buying a Lonsdlae hoodie with a yellow inside-hood and an enormous Lonsdale logo on the back. Probably not your cup of tea, but good quality at least.

Though don't wash it at 60 degrees as it dyes both itself and everything else purple :(

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 10 September 2004 10:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Erm, you probably shouldn't have been washing it at 60 anyway!!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 10 September 2004 10:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Stevie, I'd try Uniqlo first and then on over to the John Lewis school outfitters if it's a sweatshirt-type one you're after.

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 10 September 2004 10:22 (twenty-one years ago)

White Stuff? Should be plain-ish.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 10 September 2004 10:26 (twenty-one years ago)

(looking at their online catalogue, it appears not, but might be worth a trip to a store)

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 10 September 2004 10:32 (twenty-one years ago)

HOLY FUCK. I'm something of a matcher when it comes to clothes but even I didn't expect my new skirt to go with the following heirloom: cashmere jumper in pale yellow with beige gingerbread suede trim and silver buttons. I've never found anything to wear with this one cardigan, ever. When my mom gave it to me the 1962 summer sales pricetags were on it.

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 10 September 2004 10:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm counting down the days till i can buy nice duds in normal shops instead of shopping in tent emporiums (or should that be emporia) for lardy ladies. Claire managed to pick up 4 outfits for €5 in Berlin but the only things that would have stood a chance of fitting me were of the voluminous smock variety.

― leigh (leigh), Friday, 10 September 2004 12:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Shoe question: is the pointy-toe thing over yet? This trend has been the bane of my shoe-buying existence. Those things make my feet look two sizes bigger than they already are (size 9 U.S., thank you very much)and cause me much podiatric pain.

Suggestions for reasonably comfortable wear-to-work-with-slacks-and-untucked-oxford-with-cable-sweater shoes, please. Heels fine, so long as they don't exceed ~2 1/2 inches.

I should get some knee-length skirts.

― quincie, Friday, 10 September 2004 12:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I second Uni-Qlo, which was my first thought.

I've been trying to hunt down the bulk of my dad's 80s wardrobe, of which I've had quite a bit of luck with over the past 10 years.

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Friday, 10 September 2004 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks for the hints, people... have been drooling over the new chocolate and yellow converse low-tops, mmm!

― stevie (stevie), Friday, 10 September 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i have just purchased these, but i'm sure this is not the correct thread!
http://www.pickyourshoes.com/images/shoes/dunk_sb_jedi.jpg

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 10 September 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

As far's I'm concerned, it is. Love the colours.

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Saturday, 11 September 2004 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Southern California fall fashion...is summer fashion.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 11 September 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I went out looking for a simple black a-line skirt for work today, but didn't find anything that fitted the bill. However, I did get a couple of fine merino sweaters, one v-neck and one polo-neck, from H&M for £15 each and a narrow pleated black skirt which will do nicely instead of my fantasy a-line. I look a bit schoolgirlish in the v-neck sweater, which is *that* shade of grey.

I also bought a red tracksuit thing for £14 from Dunnes for lounging around the house in, proving that I am Madame Middle Aged.

― Madchen (Madchen), Saturday, 11 September 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Things I want:

Comme de garcons brown wool trousers

APC black flannel trousers

both very wide straight legged

APC grey cardigan

Issey Mikaye Black wool jacket

Red mohair jumper (although suzy will steal)

more chunky grey cardigans

stil lcant find the right shoes or the right rain coat but I cant afford any of this so its kind of academic

― Ed (dali), Saturday, 11 September 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

the cury stuff looks like pincurls and is on the OUTSIDE NOW WHAT IS THIS CALLED HUH?

If short, tight curls, probably Persian lamb; if long, rather frizzy curls, Tibetan or Mongolian lamb.

― j.lu (j.lu), Saturday, 11 September 2004 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Astrakhan?

― suzy (suzy), Saturday, 11 September 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay for thread revival! I just but some rediculously impractical italian leather short boots that are held shut by ribbons wrapping around them and look kind of cowboy-ish (crinkly leather, pointy toes) because they were (relatively) cheap. Do you think they'll be terribly last year?

― mouse (mouse), Saturday, 11 September 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

As far's I'm concerned, it is. Love the colours.
You want to see the laces & the stitching up close B.A.R.M.S, it's luminous yellow, very bright indeed!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Monday, 13 September 2004 08:48 (twenty-one years ago)

My concession to fall fashion... today is the first day it's been cold enough to wear a turtleneck, hurrah, so I'm wearing the pale blue one. I even dug out my leather jacket from wherever Joe hid it. Hurrah for autumn weather, cause I love my leather jacket and I'd wear it all the time.

― Danger Whore, over and out (kate), Monday, 13 September 2004 08:51 (twenty-one years ago)

The colours do look fab on those shoes, Pink.

I thought it would be all cold and autumnal on my walk from Waterloo station to wardour Street, but by the time I got to Charing X station I had to take my jacket off and made the rest of the journey in my t-shirt. Hurricane Frances (or rather the 25mph remnants thereof) certainly gave yesterday night a seasonal feel.

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 13 September 2004 08:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I found the perfect black wrap dress in M&S on saturday but i fear they don't do it in my size, i'm just hoping it's a generous cut.

― leigh (leigh), Monday, 13 September 2004 08:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I purchased part of my wedding outfit on sat. There was a green pleated skirt & I also got a ponchi to match (although I'm gonna take it back to switch it to chocolate brown) with the most gorgeous shoes!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Monday, 13 September 2004 09:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Speaking of shoes, I love your Nikes even more now.

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Monday, 13 September 2004 09:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, why;s that?

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Monday, 13 September 2004 09:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Huzzah APC have a website that does mail order at french prices. Unfortunately no black wool flannel only cotton trousers but very nice nonethesless. Plus I can resnobly pay 120 euros for a pair of trousers were £270 would be a little excessive.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 13 September 2004 09:41 (twenty-one years ago)

And it seems that Lou Doillon (the daughter of Jane Birkin that actually wants to be famous) is their poster girl.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 13 September 2004 09:51 (twenty-one years ago)

suzy, check yr mail

― Ed (dali), Monday, 13 September 2004 10:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, why;s that?

LUMINOUS YELLOW!

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Monday, 13 September 2004 10:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh I see, hahaha!! If you're a size 12, you could prob still get a pair!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Monday, 13 September 2004 10:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I spent most of the weekend trying to remember Astrakhan, so thank you Suzy for putting me out of my misery.

I went in M&S the other day and found tons and tons of stuff I liked - not dirt cheap, but not stupid prices and generally well made. I think all the press they've had about Asda selling more clothes is a bit unfair - I'd hate for marksies to try to compete with the likes of George and Primark.

― Madchen (Madchen), Monday, 13 September 2004 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

The new limited collection stuff in markies is pretty nice - i convinced my mum to pick up a couple of cardies and have my eye on a silky kimono top there.

― leigh (leigh), Monday, 13 September 2004 10:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I think that was mostly the stuff I liked. I can't stand Per Una - it's the sort of frilly clothing middle aged actresses and am dram wannabees wear.

― Madchen (Madchen), Monday, 13 September 2004 11:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes! EXACTLY! I call the range PU for obvious reasons beyond the clothes shouting HELLO MY NAME IS CAROLINE QUENTIN. Also they seem to have gravitated toward that last-sale-garment-at-Warehouse/Dotty P colourway of horrible, horrible mauve.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 13 September 2004 11:11 (twenty-one years ago)

All of the clothes in Zara at the moment seem to be either pink or mauve which are possible the least flattering colours on me - they make me look jaundiced.

― leigh (leigh), Monday, 13 September 2004 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I need brown tops ppl, where do I start? Online stores would be helpful!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Monday, 13 September 2004 12:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I just clicked onto the warehouse website to see if I could find anything & it's already got something in the basket, which happens to be a brown cami top (which i want) in the right size. Weird!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Monday, 13 September 2004 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Has tweed reached saturation point this year? I can't quite decide whether its safe to bring out my trusty tweed jackets or not.

Also, I NEEEEEEED to find somewhere that sells vintage golf-shoe style brogues in brown and white. This is literally something that keeps me awake at night. Ideas anyone?

― Julian Parker (jngpng), Monday, 13 September 2004 12:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Dammnit, it gave my full name! Thats far too formal. This registering thing is wack.

― jngpgsfggge (jngpng), Monday, 13 September 2004 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I think tweed is probably safe all fall and winter, although ymmv if you're in a fashion capital. I'm in St. Louis, so I'll be getting a suit my mom found on discount as well as wearing my vintage tweeds.

Anyone see anything they like from fashion week? Or does that deserve a new thread?

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 13 September 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw golf shoe brogues in yellow and white this weekend if that helps.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 13 September 2004 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Oooh, where did you see them Ed? They sound delicious!

― Julian Parker (jngpng), Monday, 13 September 2004 12:45 (twenty-one years ago)

The 'B' shop conduit street, london they were in the sale too down to £50 or £60 from something ridiculous.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 13 September 2004 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Nice one, I shall check out forthwith.

― jngsdsg (jngpng), Monday, 13 September 2004 12:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you from Cambridge?

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Monday, 13 September 2004 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I miss Conduit Street.

I forgot about Fashion Week and would appreciate all discussion to be directed here.
I find myself wanting a pair of tweed trousers these days. Am I ill/turning into Will.I.Am or reverting to my 8 year old self?

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Monday, 13 September 2004 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)

DOn't know about tween but dark brown wool is floating my boat. (black herringbone tweed overcoat excepted)

― Ed (dali), Monday, 13 September 2004 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I am indeed from Cambridge...

xpost an' all that

― jngpgsfggge (jngpng), Monday, 13 September 2004 13:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Cool, whereabouts?

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Monday, 13 September 2004 13:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Erm, the bit in the middle mainly. Where all the tourists and stuff are.

Your from Cambridge too then?

― jngpgsfggge (jngpng), Monday, 13 September 2004 13:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Persian lamb! That's it! Thank you. I will have to see what Astrakhan is; I'm completely unfamiliar with that term.

This thread inspired me to actually look in a few shops this weekend, which reminded me that I pretty much hate and suck at all non-catalog shopping. But I do live near a Nordstrom, which provides a somewhat less scary shopping experience. I will check it out later this week.

It is still too warm in d.c. for sweaters, sadly. I can't wait to wear a turtleneck!

― quincie, Monday, 13 September 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, sorry bit nosy!! Yeah I'm from Cambridge, although I've just moved out to the sticks. Was living on Mill Rd up until a month ago!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Monday, 13 September 2004 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay!! Mill Road is great. Best bit of Cambridge by far. I'd move away myself if I didnt have irritating things like degrees keeping me here. Alas, instead I have to stay and brave the flocking people with cameras. Such is life.

― jngpgsfggge (jngpng), Monday, 13 September 2004 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Hm, I know what you mean, you just gotta shout 'do I look like a f@#king tourist?' that usually works! Mill Road totally rules, apart from the drunks & the rats!?!!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Monday, 13 September 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

apc has a green velvet men's suit this season that's absolutely stunning. and the women's cork wedge sandals.. there are drool spots on my lookbook.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 13 September 2004 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Oooh, neat site - didn't know about APC.

I just bought a vintage 50's periwinkle cardigan with 3/4 sleeves & a tapestry-fabric vintage fitted coat. Also thrifted this ridiculous silk cobalt blue cropped blouse with a faint snakeskin print - 80's Ungaro. It's quite silly, I am debating if I'll ever wear it.

I don't care if tweed is verging on played out, I love the stuff.. plus there seem to be massive & excellent vintage tweed stockpiles in every thrift, it being New England. Am just waiting for chilly weather so I can bust out this brilliant houndstooth 50's fitted jacket in cream/maroon/dark green/navy.

― daria g (daria g), Monday, 13 September 2004 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

apc is so fantastic. I wonder what I'd look like in a green velvet suit.

― cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 13 September 2004 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate all my clothes right now and so mostly just wear plain navy tees, jeans, and tangerine cons.

maybe when I get some money I can try look good again.

― cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 13 September 2004 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

things I love from a quick scout round the apc catalogue:

black 'derbies' - 270€ (o, if only!)
brown 'pants' - 140€ (I can't find a nice pair of brown trousers anywhere and they're what I want most in the world) (except, of course, world peace) (and the twin peaks season 1 dvds :/ )

incidentally, couldn't find that green velvet suit : /

― cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 13 September 2004 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

'ray ban sunglasses' - 80€ (for tht godard look, obv.)

― cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 13 September 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm sure you would look amazing in that suit. i suspect it's the kind of thing that would make anyone look good, because it's so intrinsically spectacular. it's a really deep emerald/forest shade, kind of jewel-like but also kind of dark.

but yeah. apc lust. see also: joseph.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 13 September 2004 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

damn you all for giving me that APC url. I cannot justify spending that much money on a cords. but that doesn't mean I probably won't break down a buy them

― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 13 September 2004 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Man why don't *I* know anyone who is getting married?

Starry, Will P. is getting hitched at the start of November, if you can somehow make it to the wilds of northwest New Jersey.

― Dickerson Pike (Dickerson Pike), Monday, 13 September 2004 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Cozen I can send you the Twin Peaks dvds if you want!

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)

damn Ihave dressed ilx. Luckily the website is a fairly limited range. Off to paris for a shopping trip me thinks.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 04:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Ben, is will marrying that lovely girl I met? I must send them my regards!

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 06:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Ed, Nick has REPEATEDLY called APC "the thinking person's Gap" and one must admit he has a point.

See also: Muji.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 07:37 (twenty-one years ago)

gregory henry, I would love you for ALL time!

― cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 07:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, what's APC, and does it exist in London?

There are THREE pairs of new design Puma trainers in Offspring and I fancy them all. But I don't think I LOVE any of them. What to do? It would satisfy my shoe-buying needs, sure, but maybe I should hold out for something incredibly special?

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 08:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Pics pls mark!!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 08:59 (twenty-one years ago)

APC is a parisien brand sold in a few departent stores and boutiques sell it here in London. also online at http://www.apc.fr/

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 09:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll have to go to the shop again today - I can't remember their names and the Puma website is really bitty and incomplete and hard to navigate.

Ooh, hang on:

Top Winner
Swinger

There are two other, more interesting styles that I can't find on their website - I'll see what I can track down.

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 09:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Go to the office website mark http://www.office.co.uk & you should see everything there.

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 09:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I forget what it stands for, Mark, but it's a French line of clothes roughly in the same economy scale as John Smedley or Duffer or Mandarina Duck, a bit like if you put Carhartt, Marc Jacobs, Muji and Agnes B. into a fashion blender. They have concessions at Selfridges and I have a pair of trousers I got ages ago in a shop (maybe one of the Josephs) in Brompton Cross. They used to have a shop in Ledbury Road but when $4+1nd3r and I went looking earlier this summer we saw it had closed.

Why don't you rash of sneakerpimps go for the Y3 Adidas? Because they're way too ¥3 to consider? My big boss at ESM off photographing a campaign for them now.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 09:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Also sadly Ledbury Road APC replaced by one of those Notting Hell boutiques which make scanties and cashmere for Chinawhite cashmoney hoes. How we cried.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 09:11 (twenty-one years ago)

These aren't really my thing to be honest, but you might like them mark.
http://www.complex.com/productsguide/adidas-y-3-hi-top_300.jpg

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 09:16 (twenty-one years ago)

hahhahaahahahahahahahahha

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 09:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Suzy, there's one particular design of the Y3 that I really like (it's shoe 03 in white in the Collection FWo4 here), but it's like £150 and I just can't justify that.

Pink, that's ever so clunky - I'm not really keen on high top trainers, and the toe just doesn't do it for me. Thanks for the suggestion though!

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 09:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Hard to navigate, that Y3 site - it's collection FW04, mens, then you click on one of the styles, then on the shoe part of the style, then click "next" or "previous" until you get to shoe 03, then click on the white button. Blimey.

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 09:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Glad you found that funny ed. No mark i dont like those either, just thought you might!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 09:37 (twenty-one years ago)

The idea of MArk in early 80s style basket ball boots amused me.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 09:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah, that is a bit steep. However if they have them at Koh Samui (if KS have a men's section, that is) I do have a 20 per cent industry discount which means £120. If you were really sleazy about freebies and discounts...there are other strategies (Bosswife at ESM receives four pairs of not-Y3 plain plimsoll trainers each month from a shop, for nowt, and chucks each pair out after a week or so like the earth mother she is). You might also check Retro Man (the MVE for clothes) for a slightly better deal on almost-new shoes that have (whisper it) clearly been pawned by stylists with the, erm, sniffles. I think Y3 will show there for whatever reason.

Am gonna go to Browns Focus as have coveted a pair of Denim, Paper and Cloth jeans for about a year and they are £80 secondhand, £140 new. I will get my size worked out and written down and get an American or fashion traveller to get them for new for probably less than the £80 (they are $140 in America).

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 09:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I think they sell Denim, Paper and Cloth jeans at Off 5th Saks 5h Ave outlets for $80. Or maybe even less, I forget.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 12:05 (twenty-one years ago)

They were on sale at the Off 5th near me for about $45...

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Really?!? Are those the current season or last year's (see if I go to Brown's Focus to try on stuff I'll have the new lines to choose from, won't I)?

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm going to saks momentarily on a coat pricing expedition, suzy. want me to check the pdc prices?

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I really don't know what season they are, I am totally out of the loop in that regard.

x-post

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Absolutely, Lauren! I'm a UK 10 right now but if the jeans are too longwaisted my 24 inch waist kind of hangs there in the middle of the rigid, suspended waistband like a reverse Life-Saver. I sometimes feel that this resembles a neck on shoulders, on bad days. So hipster-length jeans tend to fit me normally but the bumster look doesn't suit.

As for colour no big fade stains on the front thighs, aka if you could envisage it on J-Lo don't go for it, but if dark and turnuppable I am pleased. Imagine with nice pair of vintage heels in emerald and sweaters or those foofy going-out tops.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

i want the APC parka, but it looks a little too, um, masculine for me when i tried it on.

― phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

fashion week sleb shots:

http://www.hossli.com/celebrity/images02/2004-0910_paris.jpg

http://www.hossli.com/celebrity/images02/2004-0908_avril.jpg

http://www.hossli.com/celebrity/images02/2004-0907_annakim.jpg

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that l'il kim and has she just bought crack or something?

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

it is, and you'll have to ask her. :-)

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

(also Lauren, if you happen to swing by Kiehl's I know for a fact that if you say your skin needs to rehydrate on flights because you're a frequent traveller, they'll give you masses of the samples of the moss-green deep moisturising masque that's like £40 a bottle here. If you like K's generally, stock before you rock)

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

nice. i'll remember that. kiehl's u.k. is like exactly the same price but in stirling, which is a big ouch.

so, saks cle is "re-stocking" their pdc jeans right now. iirc the nyc saks sells them for around $150-80, which is cheaper than i've seen them in london, and if you hit a clearance you can get them for around $100. speaking of clearance.. i got myself a pleated silk tahari skirt on deep discount. the pattern is sick: hot pink, black, white, gray; peter max meets liberty. also, a black fitted lily pulizter polo shirt for $30.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

curently ultra trad brown low boots from church or barker are looking the thing

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Nice work Lauren! Actually it would appear that the Kiehl's price differential might be *wider* than the standard dollars-for-pounds scamola. Point out the 1.80 exchange rate and a price rise like the loyal customer you are, and if you hit the staff in the right mood I'm talking enough samples to keep you going for a year of travelling.

How long have I got to mull over the PDCs? If they do them at Koh S then I can get them for £110 or thereabouts - they were $140 last year at Heartbreaker in Mpls (added bonus no sales tax of any kind on clothes there). Also don't you hate terms like re-stocking, just makes me wanna go THEN WHERE ARE THEY? Boss yesterday said the Americans invented the word 'apparel' to avoid having to talk about clothes in even the most tenuously sexual way, hates dealing with them presswise.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd offer to check price/style of the PDC jeans but I hate everyone's guts at that store.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I bought a bunch of cords at TOAST (3rd floor in Selfriges) a couple weeks ago. They are good if like me you need a wide leg trouser (and usually you can buy a size smaller than you actually are). Then I got a pair of Maloles shoes (www.maloles.com) as an early birthday present to myself over the weekend.

― marianna, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 11:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I am desperately trying to find a pair of baggier jeans!! *sigh*

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 12:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Painter trousers from Pop Boutique? They are wide enough for me to rave in.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 12:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anyone know the web address for Gap UK as I can only find the US site?

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 12:22 (twenty-one years ago)

You might also check Retro Man (the MVE for clothes) for a slightly better deal on almost-new shoes that have (whisper it) clearly been pawned by stylists with the, erm, sniffles.

It's true, 3 pairs of John Varvatos Converse trainers had been in and out when I was home in July as sold by stylists, which the nice lady assisant in a wacky blue/white/purple patterned chiffon dress and black leggings informed me. Almost picked up the last pair (essentially slip-on Vans in black leather), but sadly gave them up after finding they were a size too large (12). I preferred the tweed material version anyway, though I never saw it outside of Arena mag.

It's funny that I mention this while wearing the Sharpeye trousers I bought on that trip to work today. Love MVE.

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Argh. I bought the 850 odd page Vogue Fall Fashion issue this weekend and I want everything ever made by Prada and Miu Miu (and Maggie Gyllenhall is their model, so cute) unfortunately my budget tends to perhaps stretch to Gap sales and Target. But oh do I want these:
http://www.styledrops.com/handbags-4173.html

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Those are gorgeous, jocelyn! I have the same problem. I got that mag too.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I want everything ever made by Prada and Miu Miu (and Maggie Gyllenhall is their model, so cute) unfortunately my budget tends to perhaps stretch to Gap sales and Target.

I hear that. One good thing is that I live near an Off 5th that occaisonally has some fantastic markdowns. I was able to get a Prada skirt for $40 once.

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Off 5th? Is this just a cool NYC thing?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anyone know the best way to make prints on t-shirts? We're trying to make fake Louis Vuitton t-shirts with just the LV logo in different colours all over the tee (like on the bags) but we can't work out how to print it properly. We've made stencils and shit and we got loads of cheap Fruit of the Loom tees from Deptford market and we're hoping to sell some. Anyone?

― scg, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Off 5th is the Saks Fifth Avenue outlet store. They probably do have one in NYC, but there's a few other stores in the U.S.

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

They have two or three Off 5ths in the Chicago area, too. Haven't been for an age, but have found some great stuff there in the past.

I'm eyeing some boots from Target lately, and a very cheerful-looking shirt. For whatever reason, I always have to mull things over for a while before actually buying...

― JuliaA (j_bdules), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)

ok. i was going to go out and buy a new coat this weekend. but.

agent provocateur is having a sale on the website right now.

should i spend my coat money on deeply-discounted undies? or is that stupid?

― colette (a2lette), Friday, 17 September 2004 11:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Why would that be stupid?

Y-3 is actually much better looking than Usher makes it.

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Friday, 17 September 2004 11:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Usher can make anything look & sound shit, he has a gift!
Colette, totally go for the undies!!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 17 September 2004 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)

buying a new coat seems a lot more practical than more than a hundred pounds worth of underwear, for some reason...

― colette (a2lette), Friday, 17 September 2004 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Practical, smactical!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 17 September 2004 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Cracktical!

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Friday, 17 September 2004 11:57 (twenty-one years ago)

ok, i did it. what a fantastic sale! i saved almost £100! (they show you the pre-sale price plus the discount)

yay!

― colette (a2lette), Friday, 17 September 2004 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

saving that much money on pants just does not compute. Unless it's like a truck load of pants.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 17 September 2004 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay Colette, now you just gotta hope it doesn't rain! ;-)

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 17 September 2004 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

have you seen the normal prices at AP? it's shocking. stuff is up to 70% off right now. go buy it, everyone!

(i think we need a new fall fashion thread-- this one is just so long!)

― colette (a2lette), Friday, 17 September 2004 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)

What do I need to buy knickers for?!?! It's not like anyone is going to SEE my knickers, well, ever again. I mean, my boyfriend is a plastic toy! Like he cares! Primark is good enough for him!

― Danger Whore (kate), Friday, 17 September 2004 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)

New thread then purrlease! AP is a total rip off with their prices, but their stuff is lubberly!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 17 September 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

i know. that's what i was thinking, as well. but it isn't like they expire or anything. and presumably someone will see my knickers at some point again. and they're on sale!

― colette (a2lette), Friday, 17 September 2004 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Sale knickers cannot be beaten!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 17 September 2004 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)

This fall I aspire to the dayglo-50s, butch cowgirl look. My model is Hayley Mills in tomboy mode. I admire western-style shirts, and Levi, Lee and Wrangler jeans. I covet a Levis big-belt-buckle belt. If I had any disposable income my frivolous fall boots pruchase would be either the Campus or the Austin cowboy boots by Frye.

I am also taking advantage of the animal print surplus to stock up on same. I got a leopard-print silk scarf from Target. I am somewhat interested in the leopard-print wool cardigan from J. Crew, but I feel a bit odd buying a leopard-print item from J. Crew. Animal prints: yea or nea?

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 26 September 2004 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

i bought a cashmere leopard print cardigan from banana republic, light and dark grey. no fear, mary.

― lauren (laurenp), Sunday, 26 September 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

My theme this season is going to be French terr0rist/anarchist. I am not sure how this will work out. But it shall go into effect at the end of October. I am going to have to work in my sugary pastel coat I got last yr from Barney's, and the tweed since it is the only fashion trend this year I like. I will be the softer side of anarchy.

― Carey (Carey), Sunday, 26 September 2004 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I have stolen my look from an old man I saw on the bus. Nondescript shirt/red v-neck jumper/tweed trousers. Also variations based on what I think he might also wear.

― Cathy (Cathy), Sunday, 26 September 2004 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Have you seen The Dreamers Carey? French, situationist and you could work in a lot of your 60's inspired stuff too.

I'm getting quite behind the English eccentric look, means I can keep trotting out last year's pearls and fake fur stole.

― Anna (Anna), Monday, 27 September 2004 06:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I recently bought a 3/4 length acid lime green jacket. I expect it to go with everything.

― Kim (Kim), Monday, 27 September 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

bonnie and clyde was on last night. i have a hard time believing that the real bonnie parker looked anywhere near as spectacular as her cinematic counterpart, but it's a good look to emulate. i'm going to get faye dunaway-style bangs when i get my hair cut this weekend.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Which shoes should i buy? these ones http://www.officeholdings.co.uk/images/shoes/33417001b.jpg or these ones http://www.officeholdings.co.uk/images/shoes/33512000b.jpg

― leigh (leigh), Friday, 1 October 2004 08:06 (twenty-one years ago)

eleven months pass...

Redux for 2005.

who has the austere modernist grey cardigans this year (other than APC)? And infact who is doing anything austere looking? This boho shit is really tiresome.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 9 September 2005 06:21 (twenty years ago)

austere is the way to go!

APC website is misleading

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 9 September 2005 06:35 (twenty years ago)

yes, there seems to be way more brown lecturer boho shit on their website than in the shops, which is a shame as their website is much cheaper than UK shop prices.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 9 September 2005 06:44 (twenty years ago)

Oh, stop the hate on the Boho. You can tell authentic boho from fashion boho at 20 paces. I'm not going to stop wearing Liberty prints and paisley shirts and tacky Indian jewellry I've had for years just because someone decreed it was fashionable for topshop girls. They'll be onto something else by next month already.

― Luminiferous Aether (kate), Friday, 9 September 2005 06:58 (twenty years ago)

I should have been clearer, it is the fashion boho I am hating on.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 9 September 2005 07:00 (twenty years ago)

It is restricting what I would like to buy in the shops, though.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 9 September 2005 07:00 (twenty years ago)

OK, fair enough. But I will enjoy buying this stuff cheap when the fashion ends. And wear it for the next ten years!

(There is a girl on the bus every morning (sometimes with a violin case!) and a sparkly record bag. She has hennaed hair and always wears this lovely embroidered goldish brown silk jacket. She looks fantastic - very original as well as stylish.

I would like to ask her to play violin in my band but that would be weird and stalkerish. Is it possible to have a non-sexual crush on a stranger?

― Luminiferous Aether (kate), Friday, 9 September 2005 07:01 (twenty years ago)

Erm well if you go to the offices of ESM you will find nobody wearing TopShop boho. What does exist there are people who are saving all their pennies for Dover Street Market (that Comme-affiliated megashop where Nick and I espied Elton John and His Partner David Furnish in the cafe).

Ed, grey cardies are a Helmut Lang/Martin Margiela staple and there is a LOT of grey about because Fashion dictates we are all supposed to be about the black beatnik clothes this year and grey mixes well. Oh and all the Hedi Slimane for Dior ("informed" by Pete Doherty) probably has a lot of this too.

Mary, The (original) Parent Trap was on here over the last week or so...or is the look you're after a bit more Tiger Bay?

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 9 September 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)

you were talking about ESM people wanting mickey mouse ears yesterday, comme mega shop is beyond the great divide; I'd rather go back to brussels and buy stuff there, much cheaper, much less boho shit.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 9 September 2005 07:31 (twenty years ago)

Ha, that's just B3n who has a weird Disney fetish. I suggested mouse ears as a form of gentle mocking (you can have them 'monogrammed' and I nearly had my mom get Nick some ears with Momus on for that INSTANT DANGERMOUSE effect) so he was not actively seeking same.

Belgium has been a centre for minimalist/deconstructionist/grey/black fashion since at least the mid '80s. However if you really want to go to town shopping in Belgium your town is ANTWERP.

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 9 September 2005 07:40 (twenty years ago)

grey and red

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 9 September 2005 08:27 (twenty years ago)

I would like to ask her to play violin in my band but that would be weird and stalkerish.

Do you think so? I bet she'd be flattered.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 9 September 2005 08:41 (twenty years ago)

This is London. We don't talk to strangers on busses.

(Also I only assume it was a violin - could have been anything, really, as it was one of those new square cases. It is the cheesiest thing on earth to ask "what's in the case, hur hur hur" as it happens often enough to me to be annoying. It is my tool of the trade, not an accessory or conversation piece)

― Luminiferous Aether (kate), Friday, 9 September 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)

helmut lang, apc and folk seem to be the thing to look at; if I see another black jacket with satin dj lapels I will scream, it's not big it's not clever.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 9 September 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

Is that what you're going to scream at them? I suggest STOP! Fashion police!

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 9 September 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)

folk?

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 9 September 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

Folk that. I am going to an event at Tate Modern tonight so I will see what the art-opening people are wearing. I am wearing old Georgina Starr t-shirt, grey Farah trousers which have been altered with scissors to be 'city shorts', new PERFECT wedge-heel knee-high black boots and combat shirt with customised buttons. Which reminds me - must RSVP.

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

I am going to yell STOP Fashion Police at the next girl I see wearing gaucho pants. If you are dusky and lithe, do not ruin your lovely silouette by wearing these monsters. Also, the tie front bolero jackets. The button or clasp ones have a much neater line, I would like a crocheted one. Maybe I'll ask my mom to make on for me for the fall.
I can't find the right black heels for fall, my old ones fell apart. I like the T-strap tango style ones.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

Suzy, I was thinking Parent Trap, shiny English-inspired Americana, but now I am gearing more toward plaid and preppy, American-genuflected English.

Also, I received Wallabees as part of my birthday loot, and a Clarks red wallet and black leather satchel, so this fall I am sponsored by Clarks.

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 10 September 2005 02:35 (twenty years ago)

I got some black penny loafers for fall. neat. Also a couple knee-length full skirts in black and a few pieces in dark inky blue.

Where can I find some nice tops to wear under my collection of vintage suit jackets? I can't ever find much of anything, they either look cheap, bad cut, ugly patterns or colors, or look too much like camisoles (can't wear that to work). Something in clear green or a nice silver grey would be top.

Also, is it worth having a Lanvin blouse repaired so I can wear it? It is only a department store blouse, but I like the color and the little pattern. Then I started to worry, is it a bad idea to wear this because it's just a cheap thing with a logo, even if I like it.

― dar1a g (daria g), Saturday, 10 September 2005 05:59 (twenty years ago)

Lanvin is having A Moment, so go for it.

I take it you need to have SLEEVES at work, with the tops in question?

― suzy (suzy), Saturday, 10 September 2005 06:06 (twenty years ago)

No, I don't need to have sleeves, actually it'd be good to have a few sleeveless because it's not going to get cold for a while. I just need it to not look like underwear (ie all lace-y), because I will def be working in a very-very-un-fashion-conscious type of office environment (DC). Also I feel really self-conscious in a top that looks too much like lingerie, no matter if everyone is wearing them.

I love the current Lanvin stuff so much, I wish I could have just one suit. It's so beautiful.

― dar1a g (daria g), Saturday, 10 September 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

I know what you mean about DC - one of my best friends worked at the NSF for ages and she whined that the whole place was way too Ann Taylor, and she could afford to have personal shoppers AND STILL her work clothes did not please her. She tends to stick to the 'autumnal' colours but you can do STEALTH fashion in DC just fine if you choose tailored black key pieces. Those little patterned/stripy ruffle/bow blouses from the late '70s/early '80s (think what moms wore to work during the Valley Girl era) should be easy to find in Goodwill and vintage places; if you get a solid colour make it something red.

Can't stand lace either! AT LAST, UNEQUIVOCAL PROOF that I am not, never was GOTH. The whole tops scene seems to be moving away from those daggy, sparkly tops worn with (expensive) jeans and (more expensive) stilettoes and into something more minimalist and/or preppy (or those blouses). Take your cues from the vintage pieces you've got and also the references posed by the A/W collections. My workplace feels that Tippi Hedren is the inspiration for a lot of it.

― suzy (suzy), Saturday, 10 September 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

I just got back from the lanvin website

and I must say a lot of the stuff is lovely

I would like to look that look, if only a little

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 10 September 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

Wearing a tie under a v-neck sweater is top (photo 3). So is wearing a light-colored tie with a light-colored shirt and a dark-colored suit (photo 6). Photo 12 is generally wonderful. The picture felicity posted on 10/24/03 is swell.

― youn, Saturday, 10 September 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

!!!

I agree!

photo 3 is my favourite look

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 10 September 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

a lot of velvet

I almost bought a red dior velvet jacket

cut nice and slim

on sale

but I resisted : /

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 10 September 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

Worst thing you can ever do is to impulse-buy ANYTHING made of velvet in a sale. The only velvet things I have are heirloom vintage dresses from mom and grandmother, and it stays that way.

― suzy (suzy), Saturday, 10 September 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

I like some of the velvet stuff, and dread the arrival of the cheap knockoff versions.. but with that and the lace, it'll be funny if there are fashiony people walking around looking all goth.

xpost.. Ann Taylor, oh how I hate. I think they issue you an Ann Taylor uniform if you move to Arlington. Yes please let's have all the 25 year olds dressing like they are 55! With the square toe fake Prada shoes that were vaguely fashionable during the Clinton administration! I have one blouse from AT but it is black with a tie neck and I thrifted it, anyway. (Just got the fall wardrobe ready, the local dry cleaners have made so much $$$ off my vintage/thrift habits.)

I do have a number of bow/ruffley blouses and things in black, that's the main thing I look for in thrifts & snap them up whenever I find a good one. It's still a pain - I am tall but wear a small size, so either the sleeves are too short or the blouse is wayyy too big. Probably going to just have some of them hemmed to elbow-length. I tried removing the sleeves from this soft red ruffle collar blouse, and I think I've pretty much wrecked it, unfortunately.

― dar1a g (daria g), Saturday, 10 September 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

I think if I end up picking up a velvet item it'd be one of those wrapped bangle bracelets, or a belt, or shoes. Beyond that, not a good idea. I do have a dark navy velvet scarf in a box somewhere that I never figured out how to wear, I guess this might be the time..

― dar1a g (daria g), Saturday, 10 September 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

its fashion week!

― phil-two (phil-two), Saturday, 10 September 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

Ahahahaha N3lli3 went to DC to be a presidential intern in like '93 so I am sure she feels your pain acutely. Although she is the most likely of all my friends to own accessories by Coach.

Fashion goths are EVERYWHERE right now in London (please bear in mind I live appx 2 minutes from one of the St Martin's campuses) and seem to be gravitating to buying gypsy-fashion stuff in black until the weather breaks for proper autumn. Add a dab of kohl and intimidating shoes and hey presto! SHOWTIME.

Oooh Phil, fancy meeting you here. What are your gallivanting plans this week, then?

― suzy (suzy), Saturday, 10 September 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

I'm thinking my dapper thing is gonna get played out pretty soon. Maybe because dapper is getting a greater push in fashion lines right now (my only want this season is an awesome check overcoat I saw in GQ). I think I should start dressing like some hybrid of Victorian gent and post-apocalyptic anime mercenary or something. Anyone have advice?

(Suzy, I may ring you tomorrow or in the next few days for a chat. mostly about me, as ever ;-))

― Drowning Man (Barima), Saturday, 10 September 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

www.imomus.com

He done got there already.

― suzy (suzy), Saturday, 10 September 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)

Ooh, I just dug out of the closet this vintage (late 70's would be my guess) de la Renta outfit I nearly forgot I had. All black.. full skirt and Victorian style blouse with a bit of black lace trim, not so much that it's too much, I think. Now let's hope I get invited somewhere to wear it before it goes out of style again.

― dar1a g (daria g), Sunday, 11 September 2005 05:09 (twenty years ago)

I could never find that green velvet APC suit

: /

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 11 September 2005 06:49 (twenty years ago)

You are all wrong about velvet. I wore my blue velvet frock coat last night. I hope it adds a Marianne Faithful edge which distinguishes me from fashion bohos.

― Luminiferous Aether (kate), Sunday, 11 September 2005 12:33 (twenty years ago)

Does it come with a free Mars Bar?

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 12 September 2005 06:38 (twenty years ago)

I should be so lucky.

― Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 07:11 (twenty years ago)

My mom had a gorgeous red bias cut velvet dress from the 1930's that she got at St. Vincent de Paul, of all places, in Baltimore in the 70s. But the key to it from the photos that I have seen was very very minimal jewelry and shoes, nothing to distract from the dress. (Still no luck on the shoes, can anyone point me in the right direction?)

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 12 September 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

lanvin has a pretty red velvet dress..

― phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 12 September 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

As in new Lanvin or from fall? I was reading an article on Alber Elbaz today. what a sweetheart.

― dar1a g (daria g), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 01:12 (twenty years ago)

http://beta.buzznex.com/contentpix/5520_70.jpg

for fall

― phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 04:43 (twenty years ago)

For the fashion impaired (although I did buy that 360 lb Vogue), will someone please notate FASHIOPN MANDATES for Fall 2005? Other than black and covered up, that is.

― quincie, Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)

FASHION MANDATES, even.

― quincie, Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

grey and red

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

Sod Victorian, go Edwardian ~~and not because I want you to dress like the 8th Doctor or anything~~.

― Lucretia My Reflection (Lucretia My Reflection), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)

Edwardian? It's all REGENCY AROUND HERE, M'LUV!!!

(Wait, no, checks our blog and our stylist's advice. No, sorry, we're Edwardian. My mistake.)

― Smug and Pious (kate), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

I loved the article in the Sept. issue of Harper's Bazaar where the author complained about how hard it was for the average woman to afford the fall fashions, she only had $10,000 to spend on clothes this season.

I bought one tweedy suit for fall, but that will probably be about it because I'm semi-broke.

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

The only fashion mandates I am following are knee hi flat sole boots (boought a black pair with straps across calf and ankle am searching for a white pair with round toes), pom pom balls (bought a white crochet capelet with 2 long pom pom balls as ties, school girl chic (bought a glen plaid v neck jumper dress and a grey wool v neck jumper dress with black pom poms, need to buy some butterfly collar blouses online), and the modified mod. I am slowly but surely attempting to buy a cape/coat from APC that falls perfectly right above my knees and makes me feel like sherlock holmes.

― Mendoza Lineman (Carey), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

Harper's was what I read w/the Elbaz piece. It is so funny, every season they are saying to just buy a few essential pieces and a classic bag, each of them in the $5K range. Yes I know there are people who do this without a thought.

I need a good suit. I'm having a wardrobe issue because I have a job interview later this week but my closet has every color so long as it's black, and I have trouble putting together something that won't look too morbid.

So I am following the lots-of-black mandate and the tall boots, but I always wear that kind of stuff.. And still wearing the menswear tweeds and checks, but again, that's just my cup of tea anyway. I have some full knee length skirts (camel, black, paisley on black). I need to pick up a bright pair of shoes, maybe red, or green. The chunky jewelry is neat, there's an antique mall in my hometown with tons of big ornate chunky chain link bracelets for $20 and less (because nobody here buys them) so I'll probably get one.

I also really want a big old gothic cross necklace, you know, the square ones? I was searching for that this spring on the eBay but never managed to find one that suited me.

― dar1a g (daria g), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

yeah, I like knee high flat sole boots. Boots with heels are too vampy.

― youn, Tuesday, 13 September 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

I got some nice high flat sole boots from Airwalk, with crisscross straps. They are sort of ninja-like. I will search for a good pompom sweater.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

AAAAARGH please lets all never mention Arlington again. I have the misfortune of living in Rosslyn, which is like some frightening yuppie/corporate version of Stepford. I am actively creeped out by this area, and you're right about the complete lack of fashion sense. It seems to be true for most of DC to be honest, there's the daytime outfit (badly fitted suit or khakis and a polo for men/shapeless Ann Taylor gear for women WHO ALL WEAR BEAT UP FLIP FLOPS TO WORK RECENTLY WTF?) and the nighttime outfit (khakis or jeans with a striped shirt purchased at Express for Men for dudes/imitation of Jersey Trash outfit for ladies). It makes me want to start slapping people.

Maybe I should just start a separate thread for DC shopping because I think part of the problem is that there is a really pathetic selection of shopping options around here unless you're really dedicated to searching (I haven't been).

I need new shoes. I do NOT wear flats. Period. I cannot walk in them. People on the board who have met me might have noticed this already. A lot of stores seem to be carrying a lot of flats. Make me recommendations! Boots and non-sandals would be appreciated since I've done got about 50 pairs of sandals.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

Ohno! I was in Rosslyn three weeks ago for an interview. (Signs point to no on that job, I don't think they can afford to pay enough, and I haven't been in touch since.) Yes, it was creepy. I really hate the Ann Taylor thing, I just don't understand why.. well, I know why, it is that more sensible people than I think about their careers and saving up for a town house and don't spend a lot of time and money worrying about fashion. Whereas I worry too much about it. Maybe a residual effect of being a (relatively) poor kid at a snobby private grade school and never having cool stuff to wear.

DC shopping is bad. I like thrifting in Old Town Alexandria, but that probably only worked out well for me the year I worked there, because I could go check the shops every couple days on lunch break. Also the secret thrift downstairs next door to the National Cathedral, only open limited hours. Otherwise it's H&M, Zara, etc. in Georgetown. I'm broke anyway. There's a Filene's basement downtown on Connecticut where occasionally you find something interesting but most of the stuff is awful. Way up Wisconsin Ave by the AU metro is a posh department store (the Saks is further up near Bethesda but I've never been) and some other big chain stores, nothing spectacular.

― dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

The thing is, about the whole thing about people being sensible, etc...well that's just not true, I mean I don't think it is at least. I mean it's pretty painfully obvious when you see these people "out and about" on a Friday or Saturday that they think about how they look. They just dress like badly dressed clones! Also Ann Taylor is really frigging expensive. My only belief is that we are talking about awful, awful people. Who, in Rosslyn at least, already own town houses and probably are all lobbyists for awful, awful causes. If I see one more man wearing a "casually wrinkled" collar up striped shirt (generally involving some shade of pink or purple, to prove they're Metrosexual and not boring working stiffs) with khakis in a nightclub I'm beating the crap out of him.

Hahaha I need to stop, this is derail.

I haven't gone down to Old Town besides to go to the Trader Joe's actually, I've been meaning to go down there to go shopping but, uh, yeah no $$$$$. I basically just do the H&M, Club Monaco and REALLY OCCASIONALLY stop by Hecht's, because it is right next to where I work. Sometimes they have some usable things, I just bought a chocolate suede assymetric skirt there and a camel colored beaded cardigan and a Michael Kors gray and blue argyle sweater on sale. Usually they're kind of crap. Why not just call them all Macy's or Lord & Taylor, I mean they make you think you might get different options because they have different names but they're identical twins.

I am intrigued by the secret thrift.

I scored big time in Chapel Hill (haha I had to go to another state to get big time shopping scores), two Lilly Pulitzer dresses at like 70% off and my wedding dress, a Nicole Miller at 75% off.

What I actually need to do is go through my closet thoroughly again.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

although i admit it's kind of lame, i always shopped at urban outfitters (on 7th st) when i worked near metro center. i found stuff there that i could get away with at work and i felt subversive as a result. ann taylor is representative of much of what is wrong with dc.

― carly (carly), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

The thing is that even at Ann Taylor you can occasionally find things that don't look like funeral outfits. I mean honestly, I've had to do it because I was forced to shop there a few times by my old employers. You can occasionally find things that are really alright when mixed with other pieces. The main problem is the suits and the traditional button up blouses and sweaters they sell there. Not a single one is tailored in any kind of decent way. I was desperate for a suit over the summer and gave in and did the Ann Taylor thing and I really have been meaning to take them to the tailor because I actually managed to find two that had really cute detailing on them, actually vaguely fashionable, but the jackets are cut like boxes are going to wear them, and the skirt on one is way, way too long. And, I mean, I bought a size 0 there, which is not even close to the size I normally wear in any other store in the planet, and these clothes still don't fit me. They're tailored to drag queens or something. Corporate transvestites.

Thankflly I don't really have to dress very corporate at my job and can be a lot more fashion cos really I don't like wearing suits anyway.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

Ally, darla, even if there was good shopping in dc I'd still look very meh because I'm shit at clothes shopping. So if you have any interest in, like, dressing me, I will give you all my clothing money and will wear whatever you say. Really.

I am the most boringest dresser ever. But at least I don't own anything from Ann Taylor!

― quincie, Wednesday, 14 September 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

does anyone know where i can get some flat soled boots? i cant find any, anywhere.

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

I just ordered these boots (at a 50% discount!); if asked I can report back on them once I have a chance to try them on.

― j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

I'm actually wearing an Ann Taylor skirt today, but it's cute- it's black, very very subtle A-line, with white ribbon vertical stripes. It reminds me of Narciso Rodriguez, he does a lot of dresses and skirts with stripes like this. But mostly their stuff is ghastly. Ally is right on with the tailoring of their shirts, it's horrid. I don't think any chain stores really can tailor button front shirts, though. My only ok one is a Brooks Brothers shirt that I brought to a tailor to have the french cuffs (UGH) turned into 3/4 sleeves. But Brooks Brothers is (a) mad expensive and (b) only ever has one or two non-heinous womens shirts at a time.

I don't think that there are any H&M stores out here. Possibly one in Bellevue, but I haven't been over there in years.

― lyra (lyra), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

Way up Wisconsin Ave by the AU metro is a posh department store (the Saks is further up near Bethesda but I've never been)

You're thinking of Neiman Marcus at Mazza Galerie, right at the Friendship Heights Metro. Saks 5th Avenue and some posh expensive speciality stores are a few blocks up from Mazza. (There's also a Hecht's there, but I'll be glad to see that become a Macy's.)

Bethesda has a number of consignment shops in which I've seen some fancy stuff (never in my size, but then I'm not easy to fit). Would there be any interest in a DC chick-ILXorz tour of these stores?

Some other DC consignment stores that might be worth a trip:
Secondhand Rose (Georgetown, on Wisconsin Avenue a few blocks north of M Street)
A place in Cleveland Park (can't remember its name, but it's on Connecticut Avenue near Ireland's Four Provinces)
The Dupont Circle place (can't remember its name) at Connecticut Ave. and R Street
Another place near the Cathedral; I can't remember its name but it's upstairs from the Two Amys pizza place (which in itself is worth a trip).

― j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

Ally you are right about the weird tailoring and sizing. I've tried on jackets and could get into a 2, a 4 was vaguely proper fit, and I have wide shoulders, I don't know what's going on. I don't get the prices although I think there's a psychological thing where people think if it's not priced in a certain range, it isn't something they should buy and wear. So the suit might be only slightly better quality than the $80 version from the H&M, but the person shopping in certain stores feels like they should be spending $300 on a suit. I figure clothes should either be expensive or very, very cheap.

As for the khakis + buttondown outfit, you forgot the accessory: one cell phone on a belt clip. They get a pass if they're IT guys for at least making an effort, though! In any workplace I'd prefer by far to hang out with the IT department, maybe it's the deadpan sense of humor.

I discovered maybe I don't want a big old cross necklace. I ran across a cheap vintage one today, 70's in gold with a heavy chain, and I just couldn't see myself wearing it. Superstition. Maybe I'll have someone put my antique St Christopher medal on a chain instead.

Flat boots.. What price range?

― dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

I love basic button front shirts but it's so true that there are no good ones in chain stores. I need some, just to be practical, and can never bring myself to buy any because they never, ever fit well. So I have one from Claudie Pierlot that I bought years ago in France and have worn approximately five hundred times, but it's still great. Maybe I will have to save some money and get one from Agnes B...

― dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

Not to sound overly bitchy. It's DC, though, overrun by a very, very conservative way of dressing (and ugly shoes) and Ann Taylor is emblematic of it, even though they surely have some nice chic things. I don't dress outlandishly but even throwing in a few vintage pieces, at my last job, I felt like the office weirdo, you know?

And a question! I like these wrapped bangle bracelets. It really wouldn't be too hard to do that yourself, would it? I should buy some velvet ribbon and make some.

― dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

I need to buy a suit for the inevitable interviews but I am having flashbacks to senior year when all the other gilrs were wearing navy suits with gold buttons and nude pantyhose and I'm throwing up at the thought of having to dress like that.

Also to that lady in the Hagstrom Maps, eww don't make me dress like her.

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

I don't get the prices although I think there's a psychological thing where people think if it's not priced in a certain range, it isn't something they should buy and wear. So the suit might be only slightly better quality than the $80 version from the H&M, but the person shopping in certain stores feels like they should be spending $300 on a suit. I figure clothes should either be expensive or very, very cheap.

This is OTM OTM OTM. The difference between an Ann Taylor suit and an H&M suit is very subtle indeed (besides the fact that the H&M suit jackets and blazers invariably have better tayloring and come in trendier styles, which, IMO, makes them BETTER). I mean you can take the $300 and go on Bluefly and buy some really nice higher end sweaters and shirts and pair them with a $39.99 H&M skirt and look about 70x times better than if you took that $300 and spent it all on an Ann Taylor suit :(

I don't understand people at all and their corporate wardrobes. It's like accessories and tailoring and all that are beyond them. I see some women trying, is the thing with DC, but like crazy-style, like they went to Ann Taylor and bought a striped shirt and a pinstriped skirt that don't match each other in any way and wear them together. WTF? I mean I guess I'm glad they're being a little more adventurous but seriously just shop at a store besides Ann Taylor. Buy some cheap trendy accessories. I dunno. Something.

Oh and I do ok with chain store button ups. They're usually a little too small on the top but not terribly so I just go with it. I can't afford to get better ones at this point in time!

And I'd be down for some kind of shopping excursion, like maybe after work? Worried that weekends are too crazy...

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

Guilty as I feel about it, I am a fan of shopping excursions. I don't have a job yet but I am in DC starting this Friday. (the logistics of this are stressing me out, but I am house sitting so I have to only pack a suitcase, but I don't know if I will have internet and may have to do email at the public library.) I have another interview, hoping it turns out. The first one was at a nonprofit and they were so gung-ho and while I believed in what they did, I just don't have it in me right now to stay at the office late into the evening and work on six projects at once for low pay. oops, thread derail.

OK, I gotta go, but I just looked at the Ann Taylor website. I know what my beef is, really. They are AFRAID OF REAL COLORS. grr.

― dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

I will go shopping. Re Ann Taylor, they're better than Talbot's.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 16 September 2005 00:34 (twenty years ago)

I've seen girls wearing solid bright colored (not pastel!) flowy skirts and they look really good. I think the innovation is having brightness in the bottom part of the outfit instead of the top: the part that's supposed to be substantial/serious is free!

― youn, Friday, 16 September 2005 00:44 (twenty years ago)

I need a little ILE fashion hunting/advice/help. I've been trying to find a skirt that's dark (preferably something like dark plum or dark gray or navy), stretchy, and either slightly A-line or straight, knee-length, and made out of some kind of stretchy material like yoga pants (or a smidge thicker). Ideally with a fold-over top like fold-over-topped yoga pants.

I swear such skirts must exist, but I've been unable to turn up one. Any advice on where to find one online, in Seattle, Vancouver, or the NYC/Northern NJ area?

― lyra (lyra), Friday, 16 September 2005 01:28 (twenty years ago)

Urban Outfitters?

― dar1a g (daria g), Friday, 16 September 2005 01:48 (twenty years ago)

Agnes B?

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 16 September 2005 01:52 (twenty years ago)

Hmm, Urban has a fold-top one, but it looks like it's a little fuller than I want:
http://www.urbanoutfitters.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=10077&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=10&iSubCat=22&iProductID=10077

Agnes B has one that looks somewhat promising:
ttp://www.shoponlineusa.agnesb.net/product_details.cfm?prodid=1825&prod_master_cat=2&prod_cat=2&CFID=3745165&CFTOKEN=51564910

― lyra (lyra), Friday, 16 September 2005 03:10 (twenty years ago)

Oooh, and this one might be what I want:

http://www.shoponlineusa.agnesb.net/product_details.cfm?prodid=1726&prod_master_cat=2&prod_cat=2&CFID=3745165&CFTOKEN=51564910

― lyra (lyra), Friday, 16 September 2005 03:11 (twenty years ago)

neither low nor high rise jeans

― youn, Friday, 16 September 2005 05:39 (twenty years ago)

sorry, this is spring fashion but.. oh!

http://www.style.com/slideshows/fashionshows/S2006RTW/MJACOBS/RUNWAY/00200m.jpg

― youn, Saturday, 17 September 2005 01:18 (twenty years ago)

advice please:

Kohl's had some ok suits: should I get grey with colored pin stripes or stick with black?

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Saturday, 17 September 2005 01:30 (twenty years ago)

If you don't have to dress conservatively for work, you could probably do more interesting things with the pinstripe suit.

I think you should get a nice black suit that you really want.

― youn, Saturday, 17 September 2005 02:41 (twenty years ago)

pinstripes are fine professionally if you like it better, if it looks better on you. Listen the thing is. You will be more "professional" at a job interview wearing all bolack but OTM about whether or not hou iwll get more wear out of the suit--what type of job interview is it?

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Sunday, 18 September 2005 03:47 (twenty years ago)

i found my white courreges boots, which i'd thought lost for good. i'm eager to integrate them into my fall wardrobe (good to break up all of the black & charcoal), but there's a problem. my ankles are too skinny for them, and they rub big blisters on the sides. i've tried wearing several pairs of socks, but it has no effect. what should i do, ilx? use ace bandages?

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 19 September 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

Maybe if you took them to a shop and had a lining or something put in?

― dar1a g (daria g), Monday, 19 September 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to a wedding and my fashion adviser (Madchen) got me to buy this dress, which I love so much I am posting to a fashion thread for the first time.

http://www.debenhams.com/media/images/products/JV/Browse/June_2005/Detail/0506_AK4362_det_557ec.jpg

That is all. (OK, I also bought shoes, but they aren't as stylish)

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 19 September 2005 22:32 (twenty years ago)

Though, if anyone cares, they look a bit like this...

http://www.zappos.com/images/409/7156409/1729-125329-p.jpg

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 19 September 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)

Riding boots are suddenly everywhere. I have seen the same pair twice on Regents Street now (not sure if they were on the same woman) but they are lovely and high and have rather too many buckles in inappropriate places (rather like Beau Brummel's on that other thread) and if I see her again I shall stop and ask her where she got them.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 06:46 (twenty years ago)

I have my squashy suede boots on today for the first time this autumn. I have also sucumbed to the lure of skinny jeans (Lauren, you were right, okay?). I bought them at the weekend and I love them. They are dark blue and I got them in Top Shop, so they were only £40.

― Anna (Anna), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 09:33 (twenty years ago)

I am too old and too fat for skinny jeans. I think I covet a tweed skirt. (To wear with my Sex Wellies, clearly.)

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

How do people feel about the resurgence of bubble/tulip/rolled hem skirt shapes? I've seen pictures of rolled hem skirts that look attractive, but every other photo I've seen of models wearing bubble dresses etc they are scrunched up in some kind of slouchy sitting/leaning pose which makes me suspect that they can't be made to work well on even the rail-thin.

But I do like this version, though it wouldn't suit me:
http://www.paperpast.com/assets/images/fsh5X57x.jpg

― sgs (sgs), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:13 (twenty years ago)

I do not like the bubbledress thing. Not at all.

that said, I've taken to tying up long skirts so that I can hop on and off busses climb stairs with ease, but I was hoping it looked more, erm, Classical Grecian or something.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:15 (twenty years ago)

I would like to have some nice skinny jeans too. Although I am losing arseweight I am not down to the optimum size yet.

The Bubble is best in conjunction with Empire-line items on top.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)

Empire line does me no favours. I am neither rake skinny nor flat chested. Destroy.

If I wanted to look like a Bubbleman, I'd be in Love and Rockets.

http://www.musicobsession.com/Pictures/l/o/loveandrockets6733.jpg

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)

Every time I see that I wish I could dial someone's phone number, but I can't.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)

Sorry. :-(

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

i desperately want new clothes, but i am too poor. it sucks.

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:38 (twenty years ago)

How do people feel about the resurgence of bubble/tulip/rolled hem skirt shapes?

I love it. I have one rolled hem skirt in black jersey and it is slimming (? I don't know how) and I love the way it moves round my legs. It was about five quid a couple of years ago in Top Shop sale and now it is the peak of newskirtfashion.

― Anna (Anna), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)

i'm surprised by how much i love the bubble/tulip skirt thing. the trick is to get one that's not actually very bubbly - you want it to swish nicely around your legs as anna says but otherwise lie kind of flat.

re: skinny jeans - ah, the benefits of visiting places that have giant semi-abandoned SEARS department stores. gloria vanderbilt stretch straight-leg jeans for 21.99 usd! whee!

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

I just bought the mandated-by-pregnancy-law OVERALLS ARGH.

I'm 30 weeks along and this is the first official maternity clothes purchase though. And my ass actually looks a lot better in them than the men's pants I'd been wearing.

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

(xpost to Kate: no worries, am v. tired and crampy today)

I am wearing my Calvin Kleins ie. my fat jeans, but they appear to be an unblemished pair of originals which I picked up for £10 in the Age Concern on Leather Lane.

One thing I really like on me are these unusual black wool tops with leg-o-mutton/similar sleeves (think Tilda Swinton dressed as pageboy) but the one I saw at H&M is too deep a v-cut for me as I have the chest of Mr Iggy Pop.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

I have seen Iggy's chest recently and I'm sorry but he has more of a chest than you do!

::ducks::

I can't do leg of mutton sleeves either as I have the shoulders of a stevadore. :-(

More proven by science that Suzy and I have almost exact opposite body types.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

so how about modernist austerity, this season, in NYC? I should be sweeping through soon.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

lauren, is there a version of Gloria Vanderbilt jeans that does NOT sit up on your "natural waist"? I don't like jeans that do that but I like everything else about the GV straight legs I've tried on. But I can't do the waist line (I'm short waisted, a lot more so than people think, and the "natural waist" on hi-rise jeans is, well, not at my natural waist and it looks/feels awful).

Not enough jeans manufacturers are doing proper straight legs, still.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

Ed, go to Barney's and/or try Helmut Lang. Or get Phil to take you to the shops.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

i am too pear shaped for skinny jeans, they accentuate my mammoth hips

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

ally, mine are standard rise and i'm not sure if they had any others. i've got the opposite problem - a much longer waist than would appear - and low rises look ridiculous on me. have you done any internet shopping for vanderbilts?

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

Actually that's the one thing that stops these jeans from being perfect, they are far too low waisted.

― Anna (Anna), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

i've got the opposite problem - a much longer waist than would appear - and low rises look ridiculous on me.

I've got the same problem, which is why I hate shopping for jeans. I've just given up on them.

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

I just went online looking around a bit but it seems the only way to get lower waisted GVs is to purchase...bootcuts. Why can't these things live separate of each other in the fashion world?

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

the aforementioned gloria vanderbilts are good, there's one style of earl jeans that work, and saks/off fifth carry a brand called frx (fashion prescription - geddit??) that i've had good luck with. if you don't mind altering for length, the long & lean jeans in tall from gap are a good bet.

xpost to nicole

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

ally, have you tried sergio valentes?

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

Ed, go to Barney's and/or try Helmut Lang.

hon, you missed it. the helmut lang store is gone forever. the closing sale was legendary though. people flew in from europe to grab as many $75 jackets, $120 suits, $40 jeans, $10 accessories, $35 shoes as they could. I got there late and only got a pair of jeans, a tie, and a belt. sux. but one friend got 4 pairs of shoes, and another friend got a carful of suits and a crocodile skin thingy for his mom.

― phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

For Ally- JCrew boycut jeans are fairly low-cut & straight legged.

The agnes b. skirt that I ordered finally arrived, and appears to be exactly what I want, except that it's falling off my hips. (thank you thank you to Mary for the suggestion) I need to take it to a tailor tonight and see if they can take it in- the fabric is really, really nice though, I can see myself living in it once it's been taken a bit.

Anyway, bubble skirt = only wearable by supermodels.

― lyra (lyra), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

holy shit i just discovered that gloria vanderbilt is anderson cooper (of CNN fame)'s mother!

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

whoa! I wonder if he had to wear clothing with little swans on it while growing up.

Probably not.

― sgs (sgs), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)

I tried on something like that in H&M the other day, in kind of a dark rose color with a matching belt (they had black too). It's neat. Didn't work though. I have wide shoulders, all the interesting black tops had some shoulder detail going on that's super unflattering on me. arrgh.

― dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 01:00 (twenty years ago)

I'm glad it worked out for you, L. Maybe you needed a smaller size though? AB tends to be good for simple, classic pieces, often in black. Prices can be steep, though, unfortunately.

Perhaps we should have called this thread "Autumn" Fashion:

http://www.lowculture.com/archives/2005/09/low_culture_exc_10.html

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 03:27 (twenty years ago)

Gloria Vanderbuilt? Calvin Klein? What, no Sergio Valente?

I'm having horrible high school flashbacks here, ladies. Make it stop!

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:09 (twenty years ago)

i recommended sergio valentes to ally upthread! leaving the issue of horrible flashbacks aside, they knew how to make a pair of stretch jeans in the late 70s/early-mid 80s.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)

OOH LA LA SASSOON.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

::shudders::

Where can I get a good, sturdy tweed skirt and some sex wellies?

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

oh! i meant to post this a while back. when i was browsing in barratt's about a month ago, i spotted the flat-soled riding boots that you seem to be after. nice leather, available in black or brown, £85.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

Muji and Uniqlo seem to be well stocked for me at the moment. I am liking Muji's olive green cotton sort of herringbone twill jacket and trouser combination a lot at the moment.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

Uniqlo have very nice rough wool trousers and jackets as well.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

Girls in my school who were a) heavy, b) mean and c) wearing Sassoon jeans habituallly were known to me and friends as Sassoon Baboons.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

Where is Barratts? I seem to be seeing riding boots everywhere at the moment! Am very confused about whether I should get fashiony ones, or else get proper riding boots.

Will try Uniqlo for rough wool/tweed - also saw nice brightly coloured v-necked jumpers which would go well with Liberty print shirts. I tried on a tweed skirt in New Look, but it was all wrong.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

I think you need the Barbour concession in Harrods, Kate.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

i've never worn actual riding boots, but my instinct would be that as they are intended for a particular sport they might not be the best for day-to-day tromping around. then again, my experience with horses is limited to drinking mint juleps on derby day so don't listen to me.

there's a large barratt's on oxford street, i think between oxford circus and bond st stations.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

I'll go to The Highlands on Regent Street - it's closer.

(Though my mum says she will disinherit me (hah) if I waste that much money on a Barbour hacking jacket.)

x-post riding boots are actually very comfortable, they are designed for physical activity, so they're a lot *better* for tramping around than fashiony sorts of boots. N.B. I have not worn any since I was a teenager.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

riding boots are not great for walking in, no.

I still fancy a barbour poacher's jacket.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

I have lace up riding boots-only low calf, not knee high- from when I used to ride and they're not too bad for tromping around. I wouldn't walk 20 miles in them, but they feel more like sneakers than dress shoes. I think it depends on the type though, undoubtedly there are painful ones with no cushioning out there.

― lyra (lyra), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)

holy shit i just discovered that gloria vanderbilt is anderson cooper (of CNN fame)'s mother!

Via that great article in this week's issue of New York? [here]

Also, more on topic, could we please collectively dismiss Marc Jacobs Spring '06? BLECH.

― Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

Very poor Yoji ripoffs.

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

I rode horses for 5 years and for the last couple had a really nice pair of riding boots, the kind that you pull on and then tighten with laces at the ankle. They were cold in winter and hot in summer, so much so that after an hour riding, it would take me, my mom, and a bootjack plus a lot of painful tugging to remove them. They were also uncomfortable for walking around in, probably because they're designed to keep your legs/feet more or less in one flexed position, and had little sole padding.

They did look damn good though, and maybe boot design's improved since 1990.

― sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

I guess with riding boots, as with everything, there are different types of different comfort levels!

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

*and* not of.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

I love the Chanel ad that appears on page A2 of the New York Times today (September 23, 2005). The clothes are brilliant. The ad is brilliant. I like narrative ads, like the ones that Prada used to have until everyone copied them.

― youn, Friday, 23 September 2005 23:25 (twenty years ago)

OK, so I just got this lovely vintage full skirt in camel wool, it's a little longer than knee length. (May have to have it shortened a tad, don't know yet.)

What do I wear it with so that it doesn't look too.. formal or old? What color? Ixnay on the foofy white Victorian blouses, I guess that would be kinda Chloe from a year or two ago, but they just don't suit me.

― dar1a g (daria g), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

Is the skirt solid camel or is there a pattern on it? There's a pile of Alexander McQueenish and Marniesque blazers running around Banana Republic and H&M recently, try something like that with it, for work? Also a tiny fitting cardigan in chocolate, they have some nice ones with beading detail at Nine West (!!!) and from Acrobat recently that are v. reasonably priced but still A) decently made B) cute. Chocolate brown fishnets and some kind of wedge heeled shoe.

I am all for mixing only different shades of brown this fall, because mixing brown with turquoise or any of the other usual suspects now feels too early summer boho for me. I've also gone jewelery minimalist, which is unlike me! Just one striking huge piece and nothing else. I burnt out on it all!

Victorian detailed blouses are cute in colors besides white, I'm not quite feeling them in white.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 23:24 (twenty years ago)

in rebellion something quite severe - serge, a military jacket (but cropped and fitted), navy blue, charcoal grey, then secret hidden old ivory lace beneath but the key thing is it must remain a secret!!

― youn, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 23:33 (twenty years ago)

Yes agreed, wearing those blouses with some kind of floral or feminine thing would just look like...I don't know, costuming? Gibson girl? Some kind of severe jewelery and a boyish jacket. It is driving me crazy to go to H&M and see them pairing the Victoriana blouses with floral skirts or, like, Gwen Stefani circa '96 stuff. I feel like smacking the people at H&M but otoh I've been feeling that a lot lately with the amount of stuff in the store this season that appears to only exist on the mannequins, and not for sale.

I prefer the foo-foo blouses in black or chocolate though! Not the white ones.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 23:36 (twenty years ago)

OK, so I just got this lovely vintage full skirt in camel wool, it's a little longer than knee length. (May have to have it shortened a tad, don't know yet.)
What do I wear it with so that it doesn't look too.. formal or old? What color? Ixnay on the foofy white Victorian blouses, I guess that would be kinda Chloe from a year or two ago, but they just don't suit me.

I have a brown tweed almost-swirly skirt that hits just at the bottom of my knee which I usually wear it with my raspberry colored Nine West maryjane heels and a white vneck tshirt, or a ballet wrap sweater. I really don't like all the crazy Victorian blouses- not my style at all, especially the ones with high necks or bows at the neck.

I wore the new agnes b. skirt to work today!! (with my black sandals & a lilac tshirt)

― lyra (lyra), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 23:42 (twenty years ago)

Ack bows at the neck

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 23:44 (twenty years ago)

The skirt is plain camel. I do have a fitted chocolate brown sweater packed away somewhere, that would work. Can't afford a Banana Republic blazer right now. I was reading Vogue yesterday where someone was talking about dressing high/low & thought, I do that! Except my "high" is BR, H&M & Gap and the "low" is Goodwill. C OOOHLALA

I've been to le H&M approximately six times in the past month and bought things, returned them, bought other things, returned, mostly. Most of the stuff seems unwearable. I kept a pair of plain black cropped pants and a couple of slim layered tops but nothing flashy. I do plan to get a hoodie in that odd vintagey shade of salmon pink, though. And they have a kickass military blazer with hook-and-eye closures in soft grey or black but I shouldn't spend the money on yet another suit jacket, I already have a ton. Maybe I will though. I'll try it on and see how severe it is.

ZARA seems much much better, there are lots of random and cool things for $35 and less, and neat military jackets too.

― dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 03:04 (twenty years ago)

I haven't been in ZARA in ages, not enough G'town time, too much Metrocenter time really. BR is, btw, my high level as well right now.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

I just spent an hour at H&M for the first time in ages and didn't buy anything. Everything that I liked, I could just tell I would run into someone wearing the exact same thing over and over. I am awaiting the Stella line though.

― Mendoza Lineman (Carey), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)

Well, I tried on a bunch of H&M jackets and ended up buying this totally fantastic black/white/grey print blazer, very sharp, w/slightly flared sleeves and a black sash belt (that may have to go). It rules. The military jackets are nice but I feel like there are too many of them and I hate the too-bright gold buttons. (I don't think the jacket I bought will match my camel skirt, but thinking about it, I have a v. pale, pale pink H&M jacket from a year ago that might work, and prob some other things too.)

Yay, H&M.

― dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)

http://www.newyorkmetro.com/images/fashion/fashionshows/05/spring/runway/annasui/28.jpg
i got this military jacket in summer/spring because it has a cool crinoline collar, but I was very tempted to get one in a darker color at h&m today. I resisted because I feel like it might be overkill.

― Mendoza Lineman (Carey), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 22:59 (twenty years ago)

I tried on one one those H&M ones the other day in a fit of lust, (it's the shape that got me more than the details) but my chest immediately foiled that plan. stupid boobs.

now what has happened to wedding gowns? searched two full magazines and couldn't even see any possibilities. i guess the strapless A-line look has gone mostly out of fashion? and can't see any high necked sleeveless at all. hopefully can find some older stock somewhere.

― Kim (Kim), Thursday, 29 September 2005 02:47 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I overdosed on the H&M on my Monday shopping binge. TWO flared tweed skirts (one brown, one blue/green check) and the loveliest green and blue checkedish tweed jacket in an uber-preppy stylee - so preppy even Gareth complimented me on it!

Though I hear you on the boob thing - I'm two completely different sizes in H&M. Sure, this happens in most shops to some extent, but I'm a US 12 on the bottom and a US 16 on the top!

Also, I cannot follow the Riding Boots mandate because I actually have *calves* - it's absurd to make boots in large sizes, but not also enlarge the ankle/leg part of the boot accordingly. There's an advert in last week's Country Life whereby you can get custom fitted riding boots and next month I might order a pair of those.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 29 September 2005 07:24 (twenty years ago)

Have you tried Evans? I have been known to sneak in to purchase knee-high boots because they can be guaranteed to fit round my calves, which are not huge for somebody who's 5'10", but are enormo compared to the girls they seem to make boots for in other shops. Only problem is, they're usually a bit wide in the foot for me so I have to use insoles.

M&S have also come up trumps for me. I got an amazing pair of Autograph black pointy kitten heel boots half price last summer which not only zip up without wrestling, but are almost long enough to touch my kneecap. Unfortunately I was an idiot and treated them very badly and they're beyond rescue :(

― Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 29 September 2005 08:05 (twenty years ago)

I went into Evans (because they advertised wide shoes) but they were closing as I found the shoe department.

M&S helped me out on the preppy sweater front and the thick black tights front. Also I got my requistite Liberty shirts and some pencil skirts from Uniqlo. They make my ass look extraordinary, not sure if that's good or bad.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 29 September 2005 08:14 (twenty years ago)

i'm going for a slight update on the vintage 80s raggamuffin look this season. it's more on the top half, though: lots of kangol caps, argyle knits etc, but the bottom half is more 2005 with good jeans and sneakers. i'm actually back into carhartt jeans again in a big way, their new low-slung line is really nice and hangs well while sitting on top of shoes, rather than dragging all over the floor.

― sfxxx, Thursday, 29 September 2005 09:01 (twenty years ago)

I bet I might have the biggest feet of anyone here and most knee high boots are too big for me, I have a new pair of suede wedge heels that I have to take to be brought in a bit by a shoe man :(

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

you mean a cobbler?

― Jimmy Mod Loves Alan Canseco (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

J Crew used to make boots in a wider calf option.. maybe they don't do it any more, though.

They can take in boots as well? I didn't know that. Good to know, I have a great pair of flat boots that need it a little or they get too slouchy and look, uh, not how they are supposed to look. Is it expensive?

I was flipping through Bazaar the other day and found an ad with a lady wearing a knee-length full skirt in camel... and the ad was for (@*#&#KING ANN TAYLOR!!! CURSES!!!111oneoneone

I'll have to not wear it with an off-white cowl neck sweater topped with a belt, then.

― dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

I'll have to remember that skirt tip as well, since I have a knee length taupe one that can sometimes look too preppy.
I hate the little stretchy panel that they put in boots to accomodate "wider" calves, though. It's very hard to find boots that fit me as well, since I have bulky calf muscles from athletics that abruptly go in (about an inch!)and don't taper, so things fit fine at the top and then slouch everywhere else. And I hate that look.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, they can take in boots a little bit, well depending on the material the results vary. Usually not too expensive tho I haven't done this in ages.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

A question mainly for Phil and Ally:

Alain Mikli glasses, where can i get them stateside and how much would i expect to pay?

I look to be going to NYC sooner than paris and I don't want to pay london prices.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

Got to be less than the $650 I'd have to pay here?

― Ed (dali), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

$650!?!?!?!?!?!??!

my cousin owns a high-end eyewear store in chicago, and i got a pair of alain mikli - the philippe starck ones that look very design'y with the joints that can bend in all directions. well, i got them for free, but retail they were like 350.

― phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

What about the Pact range, they're pricier than the starck ones, by about 30-40% but still.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I'm thinking closer to $400 on average? I haven't actually purchased new glasses in several years though so I could be wrong. But I think around $400 give or take $50 is correct.

xpost I'm trying to think of the range of all the collections I've personally looked at in the store in my estimate, I've seen from like around $325-$475.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

God you've just reminded me I need new glasses so badly.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Friday, 7 October 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

Guys, I have another complaint about H&M. What is with their "recent" (read last year and a half) obsession with the side zipper? They are pretty obviously completely unwilling to spend the extra $5 necessary to make the zipper lie flat and be invisible so wtf? Why are they not placing ANY zippers on the back or in the front? I just purchased a skitrt there that actually would've worked well with a front zip, even an H&M "HI DERE I AM TEH ZIPPER" zipper, but no, it's on the side. WTF?

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

I am similarly annoyed with Oasis who have sold out of the grey tweed shorts I want in every store in Glasgow.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

Why do you want them in every store in Glasgow, Mädchen? Is it some odd fetish of yours?

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

Yes, yes, I know. Typing in a rush, tut tut :)

― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

What is the general consensus about...SWEATER VESTS? (On dudes.)

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

I'd rather see them on a dude than on a girl.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

What is the general consensus about...SWEATER VESTS? (On dudes.)

Dud.

I'm wearing a cute blue empire waist blouse thing that I got at Club Monoco today- it's cut so nicely, and I love the color. I don't know how to describe it, but it's awesome. I think I'll be wearing this shirt to pieces this winter.

― lyra (lyra), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

At H&M the cut for skirts seems always wrong, like too big at the waist if the hips are fitting, and all the trousers are cut for short people.. I kinda dig the super skinny jeans with snaps at the bottom but realized, uh, they are way too tight for DC, maybe if I was in Paris where everyone has incredibly tight jeans all the time..

I just got another awesome thrift score for fall, the coolest sweater ever, ever, ever, a wool sweater coat in marled black and white that buttons up and has a matching belt and a massively fat fox fur collar. It completely rules and makes me feel like I could put it on and immediately BS my way into a job in a super posh fashiony type of place.. hooray.

― dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

Ally is that frame only or frame and basic lens. It maybe academic as I have no idea whether I'm coming stateside or not right now.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 20 October 2005 06:39 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm...Ed, that I'm not sure about to be honest. I think frame and lens but don't quote me on it.

And yes, the cut for skirts can be weird, too big at the waist is generally correct.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)

Wow, H&M skirts are some of the few things that fit my weird form. So perhaps they're designed for fat middle aged women like me, not you little skinny malinkies. ;-)

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:15 (twenty years ago)

I need a grey cableknit cardigan, I didn't even look at the price of the lovely one in Jil Sander this lunchtime, I must find it's high street equivalent.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

I'm not super skinny, I thought H&M design was often a more straight up and down cut, so once I get to the size that fits in the hip, the waist is out of proportion. I think it's just my frame, I'm never going to fit into anything smaller than a 6..

― dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

omg I just found out that H&M is opening a st louis store TOMORROW AT NOON.

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

I got my shorts! Also this amazing jacket from Topshop which hurrah hurrah was also available in Tall.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/lucyald/newcoat.jpg

― Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 21 October 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)

Ooh, I like that jacket. Military and asymmetrical.

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)

I have discovered that asymmetrical works on teh bigger boobies because buttons don't do that straining thing. Also, it is the perfect length to cover up the wider bit of my thighs and give the illusion that they are really that thin all the way up. Perfect coat!

― Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 21 October 2005 12:18 (twenty years ago)

Yeah that's a good jacket! The militaristic ones in H&M this season aren't nearly as good, most of 'em are a bit meh except for this ridiculous jacket/trousers get up that looks tres Michael Jackson.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Friday, 21 October 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I tried on those trousers, the ones with the gold trim right up front? They rule. Too short on me once again, though they were kinda cropped on the mannequin and looked OK. Also I vowed not to drop $$ on trousers unless the fit is absolutely perfect.

― dar1a g (daria g), Friday, 21 October 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, me too. Same problem, everything there is too short. If they weren't all kind of boot cut or wide leg they'd be ok at the level of too short they are (too short to hit proper length vis a vis shoes, not short enough to look cropped), but I mean you look like a moron wearing wide legged pants at that length with shoes, like your shoes are totally disembodied.

I can't explain itbetter than that, I realize it makes little sense the way I just typed it.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Friday, 21 October 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

No, I know what you mean, if they are slim cut and a little short it can be cute, but wide leg, no way. I really wanted a pair of dove grey wide leg trousers that felt like they were made of kind of a washed silk (prob some poly blend) from the H&M at Tyson's, and there was no point in even trying them because at that length they'd look goofy instead of all Katharine Hepburn menswear style like I wanted. The regular sizes at Zara tend to run very long, so I've been going there. My friends who are average height complain about stuff being cut too long, but it's like, you can get it hemmed shorter no problem - hemming things longer if it's even possible usually shows and looks awful. (Oh waah, poor me.. ;)

― dar1a g (daria g), Friday, 21 October 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha I actually hemmed something longer because it was cuffed! Some GAP flannel dress pants...I undid the cuff myself and whoa normal uncuffed long pants, no sign of this event ever having occurred! Of course they are now too big for me and I have not found a similar style since :(

My aunt, who is over 6'0", said she orders her pants online from some store that offers completely unhemmed pants, and then gets them hemmed herself, but I have forgotten the name of this store. Though for some reason I'm thinking it's a division of Nordstrom's website???? Which means they are way too expensive for me (though I expected that to be the case with the sorts of things my aunt is willing to spend $$$$$$$$$ on anyway).

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Friday, 21 October 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

I pulled an H&M A-line brown plaid skirt of the closet today that I haven't worn in a few years. I put it on and it looked pretty good and I wondered why I never wear it. Got to campus and am walking around and I remember: because the skirt refuses to stay in one place, but creeps all around the waist, until the back part is on the side, so annoying. But then this guy in one of my classes told me that my outfit was "smokin' " and that it was a great skirt. Anyone else have problems with roving H&M skirts? My other skirts from them are more straight and tight so nonproblematic.

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:27 (twenty years ago)

*All* of my skirts rove, regardless of where they were bought.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

I have never encountered this roving skirt problem! Perhaps it only occurs in Scotland. My skirts stay put, but perhaps that is because my enourmous hips and beer belly pin them in place.

― We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 09:15 (twenty years ago)

i hate the slip-around. it seems to come from silk/satin-lined skirts worn with tights, or from ones that are slightly too loose.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

I have a real problem with skirt slip. Yanking at fabric bunching around your waist is so not a good look, but what can you do?

― Anna (Anna), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

I have major roving skirt problems when I am carrying my shoulder bag briefcase thingy (which seems to be most of the time). . . the bottom of the bag hits at the waistline and as I walk shoves the whole skirt counterclockwise around my waist!

― quincie, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

If it's not too cold and the skirt's long enough I wear knee highs to limit the amount of slippage.

― Vicky (Vicky), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

Aha, my huge work bag might be the culprit then.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

Ugh I get that from time to time too. I have difficult times finding skirts that fit my proportions so they all tend to be just slightly loose in the waist (H&M's straight up and down tube cut strikes again). Which would be fine if they'd stay where I yank them to on my hips, but they start to A) ride up B) spin around! Possessed skirts.

Another "classic" is when your previously perfectly well behaved skirt when you wore it bare-legged takes a disliking to tights and starts bunching up every step you take.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

See, I get that bunching up/riding up thing when wearing tights a lot more than I get "roving" skirts.

The cure for that is Static Guard.

― We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

See the thing is it's not static...it's the tights. Like if the fabric of the skirt or if you're wearing kind of old or cheap tights, they'll "catch" on each other. It's definitely not static though, I have no other way to describe it other than it's like the fibers get stuck together but NOT by static. It's weird.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

Are you wearing velcro tights?

Otherwise, wear petticoats/slips. I have loads, I should wear them more often, under skirts rather than to bed.

― We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

I like H&M for their skirts in particular. I just pulled out some cold weather clothes this weekend and was sort of taken aback as to how many H&M skirts I have that I LOOOVE in plaids and corduroys. I can't do the pants though because they're so short and just bad over all on me.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

H&M pants are too long on me. :(

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

H&M jeans won't go round my thighs :(

― Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, for me they're too long AND create a hideous, ego-crushing muffin top. Who needs that? I'm all for skirts.

Has anyone ever had shoes re-soled? Resoled?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

Muffin top! Ha ha, I thought AMP invented that term because it makes me laff so.

― We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

It's so frighteningly appropriate, isn't it? It's not a spare tire, it's not a "love handle"...it's an unsightly little blob that pooches over my pants.

It's time for some new clothes, I think.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

I hear burnt corn masks and lawn jockey outfits are all the rage, lately.

― Remy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

Has anyone ever had shoes re-soled? Resoled?

Yup, a few of them. The trick is to take them in to a shoe repair place before they're too worn & unsalvagable. It's usually not too expensive.

― lyra (lyra), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

I won't buy a pair of shoes if they don't look like they can't be. I get mine done on a fairly regular basis, but lyra is OTM, don't wear shoes once they've worn through the soles and you can get them resoled as easy as anything.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

My roving skirt comes with an attached silk-ish fabric slip inside--that must be the major culprit. I noticed my heavy tote bag also contributed to its movements. Plus, when I sat down in class the slip part showed past the skirt part, very uncouth-like. Also, I noticed in the mirror that there was a strange protusion in the back. I thought it might be an underwear gap but upon closer inspection, it is just that where the inner zipper of the skirt ends makes a bulge on the back of the skirt.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 04:03 (twenty years ago)

Talking of skits; Very baggy skirt like trousers for men, anyone know where to start looking for things like this?

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 06:13 (twenty years ago)

Mary, H&M's zippers are the most confoundingly poorly made things in the world. They are sewn in all wrong, and are lumpy, v. lumpy. I've never figured it out.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)

Ed, perhaps http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5435009718&category=63863

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

Boots with width fittings!!! Not the cheapest but they look really good quality http://duoboots.com/index.php

― Vicky (Vicky), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

Ah, excellent! Actually, I've seen them before - they do ads in Country Life so they must be aimed at fat middle aged biddies like me.

― We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

Re shoes being easily resoled: Is this also true of Dr. Martens? Mine are wearing through, and this is the first pair I've had that weren't lost/stolen by girlfriends before they reached old age.

Are there specialists for this? I'd hate to have to mail them off somewhere.

― Stephen X (Stephen X), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

Stephen, it should be pretty easy, any shoemaker should be able to do this, just look around DC for a cobbler. You might want to ask around friends, if they've ever needed to get shoes resoled, to get a good recommendation, but I bet if you went online and just searched on it you could find someone with a good reputation.

I'm sorry I can't be of more help but, despite the fact that I need to get to a shoe person ASAP, I have not done my homework on this in DC and seem to be trying to hold out until next time I am in NYC.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

The going out guru people at the Wash Post seem to have been taking questions on this - someone mentioned Best Foot Forward, by the World Market behind the Pentagon City mall. I plan to go there myself, my favorite boots & my Kenzo heels are looking rather the worse for wear these days.

I am also in need of trousers for work. Navy pinstripe, grey pinstripe, or some tweed or subtle plaid maybe. I am being all stubborn because I am between sizes and don't want to spend the $$ buying the larger size and having it tailored, also major vanity issue in play here. arrgh.

― dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

Do you ever go to the Leesburg outlets, D? I got some tweed trousers from the Barney's store there once.

I am having another problem, that occurs with the wearing of knee socks + calf-high boots. One sock invariably drifts below the height of the boot, while the other stays up. It wouldn't be so bad if both socks disappeared, but I feel freakish with one high sock, one disappeared sock, and a roving skirt.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 4 November 2005 03:14 (twenty years ago)

No, but I should, where's that.. out route 7 past MacLean? I stopped in Tyson's Corner to look for a few things, and I'm going to get these nifty houndstooth trousers from le Benetton.. Bloomingdale's had a ton of shoes on sale & I got some nifty black heels, I am kind of wishing I could afford something wackier but at least Kenneth Cole shoes are mostly made for actually walking around the city in them.

― dar1a g (daria g), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

I think I'm going to enjoy jumpers this winter. I just got a lovely red and whit fair isle and I searching up various Arran, North Ronaldsay, Guernsey, Cornish and Breton knits. I could do with some vest/tank top type things.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

but mary, that's the perfect image of disarray.

― youn, Friday, 4 November 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

d, i'm not sure exactly where it is, my mom took me out there the last time, but i will find out, bc i want to go again....

y, haha

I went to Lord and Taylors last night to try and find the boy blazer, but they didn't have anything, just some lame stuff from Ralph Lauren that didn't even have gold buttons. I saw on their website they have their own lable boy blazers, but not at the Landmark store at least.

Then I went out through Hecht's and they have the boy blazers by Van Heusen. However, the 16 is to big and the 12 fits but the sleeves are a bit short, and they 14 was only available in husky, lol pwned.

They did have a really nice selection (at l and t) of half-price cashmere sweaters, in all shapes and sizes. I got a blue and green argyle cardigan, as you can just never have enough argyle. I tried on a beige leopard print cashmere cardigan with diamante buttons, but alas, the sizing was a bit off.

― stuck at the library on a sunny saturday, Saturday, 5 November 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

Muffin top! Ha ha, I thought AMP invented that term because it makes me laff so.

I'm pretty sure the phrase was coined by these sartorially perfect people:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y159/mattlcohen/kath.jpg

and for a none more perfect example:

http://www.clutchingatspanners.com/toast2.jpg

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Saturday, 5 November 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

The Rochas suit in this week's New York Times Magazine is terrific. That model is so pretty, too.

― youn, Sunday, 29 January 2006 00:16 (twenty years ago)

I have taken to wearing a wool scarf indoors, tucked into a cardigan sweater. My scarf is pink and my sweater is orange. My sister would probably put this in the same category as the hunting cap I tried on at the Barney's outlet store when I went to CA for winter vacation, but I feel regal, or like Mr. Rogers.

― youn, Tuesday, 31 January 2006 04:21 (twenty years ago)

I love Rochas.. Uh, didn't I post something about that suit? how did it vanish? maybe I didn't post it.

I've been wearing a lot of black with dark navy blue. currently searching for lots of cobalt/electric blue tops, they are kind of hard to find. also bright spring green. and tiny polka dots. teh J crew has a navy blue swiss dot shirt which I quite like..

for spring I would like a nice white jacket. Fitted, 3/4 sleeve.

― dar1a g (daria g), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 05:46 (twenty years ago)

six months pass...

okay, describe to me this fall fashion people are disagreeing about in the "dress like an adult" thread.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 31 July 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

I know nothing of that, however I want it to be cold as friends are bringing me back a north ronaldsay jumper back from orkney this summer and I'm off to iceland in september and will surely bring back more arctic chunky jumper goodness.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 31 July 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

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