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Give me a link to a piece of writing -- a blog, a review, an essay -- and I will mark it out of ten for intelligence. I won't be juding the intelligence of the author, necessarily, just how intelligent the writing seems to me. My judgement will be intuitive but not arbitrary. I will award a mark out of ten.

Momus (Momus), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Damn, this thread starts with a piece of my own stupidity. A slip of the finger posted the thread question before I'd finished writing it. It was going to be 'Momus judges your blog' or something.

Momus (Momus), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I will launch this shortly as a paying service, so hurry hurry with those URLs while it's still free.

Momus (Momus), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:23 (twenty-two years ago)

(oh, the meta-possibilities)

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)

i thought this thread was about a new edition of the bible.

amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)

also this thread gets a "10" for self-parody.

amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)

momus: http://www.iheartny.com/yourenotthere/handt/6momus.GIF

judges: http://www.cardozo.net/life/spring1999/wigs/group-of-judges-sm.jpg

amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:25 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, I'll bite.

http://www.flim.com/flim/article.html?a=026&t=article

Chris P (Chris P), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought the title was more like an abbreviated introduction ("Momus, Judges. Judges, Momus.") referring to the idea that he was getting sued again, like W***y C****s decided, "Nah, fuck this guy! I'm still annoyed!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:28 (twenty-two years ago)

THREAD TITLE RIFE WITH POSSIBLE ALLUSIONS
ALSO SELF-PARODIC

amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:31 (twenty-two years ago)

X = X! Sky blue!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:32 (twenty-two years ago)

(Damn, I'm trying to do this while listening to someone telling me a bedtime story about a google-eyed green monster on the phone...)

Chris, this piece of writing is either an emulation of the Eliza computer program or an actual dialog between a human and said program. My problem with it is that the human responses seem as random and programmatic as the mechanical ones. The considerable possibilities for humour have been missed, and I consider humour a great sign of intelligence. I award 3.

Who will submit the next URL of web-scrawl to my gavel of mercy?

Momus (Momus), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:35 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.completeobscurity.com/x/showart.asp?ID=66

I haven't read this myself, I just called it up randomly. It looks like it wants to be intelligent, though.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Wait, Momus, do you know what a Magic 8-Ball is?

Chris P (Chris P), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh shoot, I'll bite.

http://deanna.ladyinterference.com/ilx/deannarant01.html

No matter what criticism you may throw at it, I've already thought it about this piece, probably.

Legendary Nothingness (Dee the Lurker), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.imomus.com/disorienteering.html

amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

color me curious

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Then again, if Momus doesn't know what a Magic 8-Ball is, it apparently passed the Turing Test for him. For which I give the Magic 8-Ball an intelligence of 7/10, and Momus a 3/10.

Chris P (Chris P), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:42 (twenty-two years ago)

http://splutter.net/rings/ouro.html

amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Wait, Momus, do you know what a Magic 8-Ball is?,

Actually, I've only just found out. This is turning into the sketch where the judge doesn't know what a VCR is, but can identify an inflatable woman.

And I'm still on the phone, damn, ten minute recess!

Momus (Momus), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned's URL:

http://www.completeobscurity.com/x/showart.asp?ID=66

This is very badly written and punctuated, a passive agressive employee rant. I'm tempted to see it as an Onion-type parody. Unfortunately it seems

('What are you typing?' says the person on the phone, angrily. 'You can do that later!')

2 out of 10.

Momus (Momus), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)

God, this is making me sound very stupid.

Momus (Momus), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

someone is bored in Berlin

Ed (dali), Saturday, 27 September 2003 22:01 (twenty-two years ago)

_

http://www.erickraft.com/markdorset/topicalguide/dust.html

francesco, Saturday, 27 September 2003 22:25 (twenty-two years ago)

bored and egotistical


www.freakytrigger.co.uk/underworld.html

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 27 September 2003 22:30 (twenty-two years ago)

also, spurious comma.

Ed (dali), Saturday, 27 September 2003 22:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I lose a mark for poor linking


http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/underworld.html

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 27 September 2003 22:32 (twenty-two years ago)

http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/e/eminem/eminem-show.shtml

cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 27 September 2003 22:33 (twenty-two years ago)

http://grrrlmeetsworld.blogspot.com/

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 27 September 2003 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)

http://neumu.net/fortyfour/2003/2003-00134/2003-00134_fortyfour.shtml

David. (Cozen), Saturday, 27 September 2003 22:41 (twenty-two years ago)

http://splutter.net/rings/ouro.html

Amaterist, this is the best text so far. It's pithy, brief, well-expressed, speculative. It has something of La Fontaine about it, and something of Aesop, and those two are models of excellent writing. The methodical investigation of something inherently impossible also reminds me of Kafka and Borges. I was going to say 8, but I'm going to knock off a mark for the text's main failing, the unnecessary reductive one liner about 'Sheesh, I'm eating my own tail'. In my view it would be much stronger and more elegant if this obvious, populist line were cut. 7, then.

Momus (Momus), Saturday, 27 September 2003 23:10 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.livejournal.com/users/randythetool

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 27 September 2003 23:15 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.erickraft.com/markdorset/topicalguide/dust.html

Francesco, this exegesis on dust begins by reminding me of the too-sensitive, too laboured 'fine writing' of Proust and Peter Handke, but soon turns into the gobbledygook of algebra, thereby revealing itself to be parody. I suppose it might tingle some propellorhead's funny bone, but for me Raymond Queneau did this kind of thing much better. I'll give it a 6.

Momus (Momus), Saturday, 27 September 2003 23:16 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.alcyone.com/oo/

Chris P (Chris P), Saturday, 27 September 2003 23:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Here ya go:

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Parker

o. nate (onate), Saturday, 27 September 2003 23:25 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/underworld.html

Ronan, this piece begins in unpromising 'employee rant' mode, like the one Ned linked above. It's better written than Ned's. With the transition to a live review half way through, the reader is in a quandry. Should he feel annoyed for being subjected to the writer's musings on his own trapped, lazy and frustrated life? Or should he admire the daring mixture of genres (autobiography sliding into criticism) and applaud the way this highlights the cathartic nature of music, which can only ever be consumed by persons in the midst of all their contingent personhood? I'm going to plump for the latter yet still award only an ambivalent 5, perhaps because the final sentence should have a question mark at the end.

Momus (Momus), Saturday, 27 September 2003 23:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I no longer work there, my life is ok now. I can handle a 5.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 27 September 2003 23:30 (twenty-two years ago)

http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/e/eminem/eminem-show.shtml

Cinniblount, my first inclination with this Eminem review by our very own Ethan is to applaud the adoption of a strong narrative voice, in this case scattershot AIM-talk. It's certainly original, and probably 'the voice of youth'. What would I know, though, I never use AIM and I haven't been young for a while. (Come to think of it, when I was young I modelled my prose on Boileau and Tacitus.) So I'll give it a ten for nerve. My reservation comes with the thought that this is a 'Catcher in the Rye' written by Holden, or a Molesworth book written by Molesworth himself. I don't doubt the author is mocking himself and treating himself like a persona, but I do doubt he has any other styles or personae at his disposal. The disadvantage of this, of course, is myopic closeness to his own concerns, which are not necessarily those of the reader, and a failure to do 'prolepsis', or to internalise an editor or even a reader. To its credit, the piece acknowledges this limitation by putting in a (somewhat incestuous, in-jokey) dialogue with Ryan, the Pitchfork editor. If Ethan has invented this dialogue, I will eat my hat and admit that he has two (rather similar) voices in his repertoire. Otherwise, I will award 0 which, combined with the initial 10, makes 5. A rare combination of cosmic vision and autistic navel-gazing.

Momus (Momus), Saturday, 27 September 2003 23:40 (twenty-two years ago)

http://grrrlmeetsworld.blogspot.com/

Dom, this is a blog that follows the standard blogging formula almost suspiciously closely. It reminds me of the blog about the porn store clerk, which I was sure was written by a professional writer who'd studied blog form and got its glib, punchy triviality down pat. The phrase 'hugging the shore' comes to mind. This writer flits inoffensively over the surface of her academic life, never being exactly boring, but never showing any genuine originality or passion either. I'd have to give it a 4, and recommend the author to take a peek at this blog for an example of something better written and more original.

Momus (Momus), Saturday, 27 September 2003 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)

momus, you mention the most predictable references and make the most obvious comparisons. can you now judge your own pieces for intelligence please...

Clare (not entirely unhappy), Saturday, 27 September 2003 23:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Momus, try your hand at critiquing the bottom-most piece on this page.

Andrew (enneff), Sunday, 28 September 2003 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

http://neumu.net/fortyfour/2003/2003-00134/2003-00134_fortyfour.shtml

David, this Colleen review follows the same pattern as Ronan's Underworld review, shifting from the personal to the critical. The writing here is more polished and considered -- in fact, I have a feeling that if Henry James had written record reviews, they might have read like this; sentences strung out through endless subordinate clauses, fusty words like 'flaneur' and 'heuristic', delicately existential insights into how 'we' live our lives, ostentatious abstractions like 'my identity... blurring and fraying'. It's all the stuff of somewhat forced 'fine writing', and therefore risks looking like a sophomore effort, a spurious attempt at profundity. There's considerable writing skill on display here (with a brass frame), but when it all boils down to the judgement that the record in question is 'boring', there's a distinct sense of bathos. Extra marks for the conceit at the end whereby the writer affects to 'pretend I'm not me' and gives us a capsule review, peeked over his own shoulder. Very M.C. Escher! 7

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 00:02 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.livejournal.com/users/randythetool

Lots of testosterone in this angsty, angry blog, the kind of thing that seems always on the verge of 'going postal'. Rather too many fuck yous for my liking, a rather disingenuous tone-mixture of 'meh' and cautious vulnerability. The brevity and perplexity have an almost Pinterian tone of menace sometimes. 'So I got the car.' (Paragraph.) 'Everyone can and should fuck off.' (Paragraph.) Actually, come to think of it, Hemingway's blog might have read like this. Anyway, it seems all tied up with the tragedy of being an American male, and I'd like to see this writer getting in touch with his inner female. 6.

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 00:11 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.alcyone.com/oo/

Chris, I'm going to give these oo pieces a 9. Concise, witty, collectible, aphoristic, absurdist, conceptual, minimalist... best thing so far. Eat one, you have to eat the whole tray.

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 00:15 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Parker

o.nate, this capsule encyclopaedia entry for Charlie Parker at first seems a model of lucidity and concision. Its air of infallible authority, though, is only skin-deep. I just don't accept that Parker's main contribution is in having shifted jazz from 'arpeggionic flurries' to 'chromatisism', and it doesn't help that one of those terms is mis-spelled and the other made up. There's nothing worse than authority trying to blind the reader with science which turns out, on closer inspection, to be voodoo. 4

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 00:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I think that's fair.

David. (Cozen), Sunday, 28 September 2003 00:31 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.stylusmagazine.com/review.php?ID=858

barbara morgenstern - "die liebe (r. lippok: schneekristall mix)"

David. (Cozen), Sunday, 28 September 2003 00:33 (twenty-two years ago)

The only bits of nonfiction I can think of that I have on the net are the two assm writer bios here. They make me cringe when I read them now, but there they are. (My pieces are the A. Syed Masood and Wollstonecraft bios.) You can also review the current issue of the assm Annex Reviews.

I've got some more ideas about things for you to review, but you can start out with these.

Christine 'Green Leafy Dragon' Indigo (cindigo), Sunday, 28 September 2003 00:38 (twenty-two years ago)

http://nf.wh3rd.net/archive.php?year=2003&month=8

Andrew, this is yet more blog despondency (blogspondency?) -- one begins to wonder whether there is therapeutic value in the semi-public admission of negative feelings, or whether they just anchor and externalise what would otherwise be trivial and transitory moods. 'I think I may just be wallowing in self-pity' says the author. Well, yes. 'It just goes further to suggest that I don't have a creative bone in my body. Fuck it.' No, don't fuck it! You're in the entertainment industry now, lad, the roar of the crowd, the sizzle of the greasepaint! It may just be a blog, but pack up your troubles in your old kit bag and let's do the show right here! 5

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 00:39 (twenty-two years ago)

http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=balls_are_huge

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 28 September 2003 00:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha.

Andrew (enneff), Sunday, 28 September 2003 00:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Momus turns into Christgau after the thread bashing him shockah! (Note: I am entirely for this turn of developments.)

M Matos (M Matos), Sunday, 28 September 2003 00:58 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.stylusmagazine.com/review.php?ID=858

David, I have the same impression of this as of the Neumu review. It's fabulously well written and very subtly thought through, but sets up a thought process in my head: Has pop music -- and pop reviewing -- really become so sophisticated? This Flaubertian refinement seems so far beyond the call of duty. Beyond anything even John Updike would write in a literary review. So is it appropriate and necessary in a pop -- or avant folk -- review? Again, bathos seems inevitable in the last paragraph, when a hasty sketch of the actual content of the record ('implied and expressed sadnesses, gentle guitar playing, “gaelic” instrumentation') makes it sound somehow unworthy of the tremulous speculations that make up the bulk of the review, a mere occasion or pretext for young Barthes to flex. (Young late Barthes, to be precise.) The same writer somewhat more relaxed and worldly could be a killer, though. 7

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 01:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Momus hasn't reviewed my link yet. :(

Legendary Nothingness (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 28 September 2003 01:03 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.imomus.com/disorienteering.html

This is one of the worst-written Momus essays for a while. The 'unreliable narrator' device is about as subtle as a truck, and he tells the stuff about being a little boy in his daddy's language lab twice. He needs a good editor. Or two.

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 01:10 (twenty-two years ago)

http://anthonyisright.blogspot.com/

This is good, informal writing with all the grammar, spelling and syntax in the right places. It's readable, entertaining, unpretentious. There is a kind of Gen X feel, as if everything in culture were a rehash or a soundbite, though, giving me a slight flavour of Nick Hornby and Stuart Maconie, but I'll forgive that for the use of the fabulous adjective 'schlubby'. The writer is a professional, or could be one should he wish. 7

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 01:18 (twenty-two years ago)

http://deanna.ladyinterference.com/ilx/deannarant01.html

There's something eccentric about this which makes me feel like I'm breathing helium or walking on a slippery, tilted surface. I'm bowled a googly immediately with 'when it comes to the music world, Duran Duran = me'. Paragraph two begins 'So, what exactly is a Duran Duran fan?' -- a question I would personally not pose at this point, since we've established that Duran Duran is the author. But, after a lengthy quote from the local paper (with 'WTF?' interjections from the author), we get the same rhetorical question posed in paragraph seven, with the adjunct 'Or, to be more precise, what constitutes a Duran Duran fanhood?' It soon appears that, rather than define Duran fans, the author wants to fight them: 'I have a real problem with fans from 1983 - 1984 waltzing in... To all of you little feathers just floating back in again, listen here -- give it up.' It's terrible writing, but terribly entertaining. Would somebody put the floor straight again, please? 4

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 01:31 (twenty-two years ago)

You actually hit on all of the flaws I'd been obsessing over since I decided to upload that webpage. "[T]errible writing, but terribly entertaining" = OMG, thank you for confirming for me that I need to stay in the world of mathematics and science. (*laughs* As if I needed confirmation in the first place....)

Legendary Nothingness (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 28 September 2003 01:38 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.asstr.org/~ASSHoF/#Wollstonecraft

This is an efficiently-crafted piece of professional blurb-writing. Unlike the Wykipedia Parker piece, though, I'm not tempted to distrust it, although I do slightly resent being lectured at with the slightly zany and utopian footnote: 'Hir' and 'Ze' are experimental nongendered pronouns, not typos. It's a bit like getting directions from a man at the roadside who turns out to be Wilhelm Reich and tells you to turn left at the orgone accumulator. 4

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 01:40 (twenty-two years ago)

This is an efficiently-crafted piece of professional blurb-writing. Unlike the Wykipedia Parker piece, though, I'm not tempted to distrust it, although I do slightly resent being lectured at with the slightly zany and utopian footnote: 'Hir' and 'Ze' are experimental nongendered pronouns, not typos. It's a bit like getting directions from a man at the roadside who turns out to be Wilhelm Reich and tells you to turn left at the orgone accumulator. 4

The footnotes were intended as notes for the editor. I didn't intend for them to be included on the finished page, but they were anyway.

Christine 'Green Leafy Dragon' Indigo (cindigo), Sunday, 28 September 2003 01:46 (twenty-two years ago)

The judge will now retire to his chambers to read a couple of pages of John Le Carre and get a bloody good night's kip.

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 01:48 (twenty-two years ago)

hello try and kill me by matthew fuller

cuspidorian (cuspidorian), Sunday, 28 September 2003 02:10 (twenty-two years ago)

"I can stay in my house because it's secret and made of shiny metal that keeps in my power and all my things. Sometimes I turn red and tell people off. I have lines all over me that keep out the bullets. Sometimes I can jump into the air and land like a spider and run away into a secret hiding place that no-one can find that's my house. For a hundred days I stood still very quiet and suprised people. I am like a stone and can eat very cold things." etc [frm above source]

cuspidorian (cuspidorian), Sunday, 28 September 2003 02:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm glad you liked the "oo" piece, Momus: It's been online since, er, 1996 or 1997, I think? Maybe longer? It was an early find of the once-interesting Useless Pages, which sometimes had trouble distinguishing between useless and brilliant.

Chris P (Chris P), Sunday, 28 September 2003 03:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Dammit, is says it right there on the page. 1995. I always have a difficult time saying things were on the web in 1995, since I'm never quite sure the web existed then, but I know it existed in 1996, since that's when flim went online... blah blah blah.

Chris P (Chris P), Sunday, 28 September 2003 03:25 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0339/clover.php

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 28 September 2003 04:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, since I consider cartoons to be a form of writing, I'll use this as an excuse to post a link to my site again:

http://www.geocities.com/scottrc80

... And wait on pins and needles for the Judgment of Momus.

ScottRC (ScottRC), Sunday, 28 September 2003 05:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah, shit, why didn't it work? It's http://www.geocities.com/scottrc80

ScottRC (ScottRC), Sunday, 28 September 2003 05:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Judge me as stupid because I obviously am.

ScottRC (ScottRC), Sunday, 28 September 2003 05:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Try this.

nickn (nickn), Sunday, 28 September 2003 07:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Scott, do [a href="http://www.geocities.com/scottrc80/">Try this.[/a] but with angle brackets (< and >) instead of square brackets ([ and ]).

nickn (nickn), Sunday, 28 September 2003 07:15 (twenty-two years ago)

In a couple of weeks (when I get the credit card I've been avoiding getting) I'm going to upgrade to an actual web site instead of this Geocities kindergarten stuff, and I obviously need to work on the HTML business.

Thanks, nick. And that's in the FAQ, which I read, but I confused links with posting images and hence the dumb stuff.

ScottRC (ScottRC), Sunday, 28 September 2003 07:19 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.livejournal.com/~chocolatepiekid

chocolatepiekid, Sunday, 28 September 2003 07:46 (twenty-two years ago)

The court is back in session.

http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=balls_are_huge

I sentence that you be drawn on a hurdle to the place of execution where you shall be hanged by the enormous balls and, being alive, cut down, whereupon your privy members shall be cut off (if possible) and your bowels taken out and burned before you, your head severed from your body and your body divided into four quarters to be disposed of at the King’s pleasure. Do you have any last requests? 1

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 07:53 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.angelfire.com/wy/bby2k/wip.html

Hey Momus, you can judge my incomplete error-strewn novel if you like, I'll forgive you if you give up after the first couple of paragraphs.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 28 September 2003 08:03 (twenty-two years ago)

http://daisy.metamute.com/~simon/mfiles/mcontent/hello.html

This is concrete and compelling. It reads like a frisky piece of 'outsider literature', the product of a schizophrenic or a child. Its obsessive, megalomaniacal litany documenting imaginary personal powers is clearly a transparent fantasy compensation -- in fact we are dealing here with a weak narrator whose ego hangs by a thread. He is misguided. Yet the imagination at work is livid and powerful. There are parallels with the 500,000 word novel of Henry Darger, or the racist rants of Jim Roche. And yet this might also be a canny visual artist interested in creating an exaggerated, absurdist Marvel-scape. Apart from odd slips like 'I've got got clothes and a fridge and a washing machine', it's very well-written, with an insistent, muscular rhythm and striking images on each line. In the end I have to assume it's a clever satire on American culture and award it an 8, though if it went on for 500,000 words I'd probably reduce that to 3.

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 08:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah, I've decided I'm a big fan of this Matthew Fuller fellow. In fact, I'm going to pretend that I discovered him all by myself, because I have zoom power and can eat toast without a butterkinfe and zap people.

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 08:32 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.pshares.org/issues/article.cfm?prmArticleID=7114

bnw (bnw), Sunday, 28 September 2003 08:34 (twenty-two years ago)

OK. I'll bite. I preface this by saying this is a fiction piece, I dont know if you're up to assesing those, but what the hey:

(warning: not brief piece)

http://www.memorygongs.com/citysoul.php

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 28 September 2003 08:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Judge this. And also this (read both parts).

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Sunday, 28 September 2003 09:05 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0339/clover.php

Sterling Clover's Sarai review reminds me of my early Voice-reading days. I'd buy it in London and marvel at dense and quaint boho-hipster tone, subcultural patter we hadn't heard in Britain since the days of Charles Shaar Murray. And although this review is high fiving me and doing an emulation of rap-speak rather than shaking its peace beads, it still hits me like a cloud of joss smoke. It's a throwback to the days when the underground press and the underground music industry were backslapping hipster equals, speaking their own dense, tribal language. When subculture was still subculture, in other words, which has to be 1976 at the latest. (When did Virgin invent the Megastore?) Part of the appeal of this kind of prose is the feeling that if you understand it, you are an initiate, a hipster. So you struggle to join the dots. You play 'hunt the verb'. 'The production matches up, with sometime Dre producer Scott Storch's G-funk keyboards on the cheap, Bomb Squad alum Ali Dee slinging noise-wall Southern bounce, and Beau Dozier spitting the same post-"Can I Get A . . ." tech-house madness he brought on 3LW's A Girl Can Mack.' The irony here, or perhaps I mean the symmetry, is that the review is of a white rap artist, and Sterling is basically approving 'how [Sarai] turns what she thinks distinguishes [black producers and rappers] into how she mimics them.' This shows a keen understanding of the essence of pop, its artificiality and feelgood bad faith, and the conclusion, 'Sarai wants to be hip-hop, own it, hold it, kick it, throw it—so bad you can't help but feel that need' actually comes close to my favourite saying by Adorno: 'In the end, soul itself is the longing of the soul-less for redemption'. Which applies not just to white rap artists, but also to journalists who wish they could be part of the subculture they're commentating. You want it enough? You got it! 7

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 09:14 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.geocities.com/scottrc80/

Well, for copyright reasons you can't find any Gary Larson cartoons on the web, so I guess Scott is filling a void and providing a public service. Humour is pretty subjective, but I admit captions like 'please don't interrupt me while I'm babbling incoherently to myself' strike me as rather lame and normative, not far from the office posters that say 'You don't have to be mad to work here... but it helps!' Order in court, order in court! Guards, take that man away! 3

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 09:24 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.livejournal.com/~chocolatepiekid

This starts as the blog version of Spinal Tap -- a self-deprecating band puff -- then segues into Mr Bean, with an amusingly defensive rumination on eating one's own lip skin. I prefer Mr Bean, though we're perilously close here to The Dullest Blog in the World. 3

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 09:32 (twenty-two years ago)

some hack work for your consideration...

in the reviews section

Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Sunday, 28 September 2003 09:35 (twenty-two years ago)

here's the still-beating heart of my young blog for review

geeta (geeta), Sunday, 28 September 2003 09:39 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.angelfire.com/wy/bby2k/wip.html

Ah, a humourous murder mystery. An unabashed amateur NaNoWriMo project. Granny reaches into frozen pea cabinet and grasps corpse's penis instead of broccoli. When non-professionals turn to writing, you hope they'll bring some fresh mindset, break away from literary convention. So it's a bit disappointing when they rehash formula for laughs, just a bit sloppier than the slick originals they're pastiching. (Hey, isn't that the disappointing thing about indie rock too?) Here we get sentences apparently unread even by their creator, like 'E was a wiry young man, with a goatee beard and greasy unkempt beard he played the drums in a thrash metal band called Frozen Corpses.' What, two beards? I rest my case. 3

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 09:40 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.theatlantic.com/unbound/flashbks/computer/bushf.htm

Altweibersommermute (Wintermute), Sunday, 28 September 2003 09:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Momus, please analyse the exchange between Nate and Trife on this thread.

the son of Satan, Sunday, 28 September 2003 09:53 (twenty-two years ago)

The judge will take a few hours recess now as he goes out to review the curious phenomenon known as 'Berlin on a sunny Sunday'.

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 10:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Thank God, Momus. I had a horrific vision of you marking blogs all day while Berlin rolled on behind you, unseen.

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Sunday, 28 September 2003 10:16 (twenty-two years ago)

3! Wahoo! I can live with that!

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 28 September 2003 10:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks Momus!

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 28 September 2003 10:33 (twenty-two years ago)

jels' dude had two beards!! how is this not a "fresh perspective"?!! metatron save us from numerical reactionaries...

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 28 September 2003 10:36 (twenty-two years ago)

http://doxo.wox.org/name.html (by Toadex Hobogrammathon)

Douglas (Douglas), Sunday, 28 September 2003 13:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I have returned from the Sunday market laden with two stag's heads, an inflatable woman, and a false beard. I am in a good mood, so I have decided to hear some appeals.

E was a wiry young man, with a goatee beard and greasy unkempt beard he played the drums in a thrash metal band called Frozen Corpses.

Let's give Jel the benefit of the doubt. Let's try, anyway. E's bandmates are being referred to, thanks to metonymy (by which device the part stands for the whole) as 'a goatee beard' and a 'greasy unkempt beard'. They are perhaps Peaches' backing band, for instance. I could even accept that they are 'beards' in the fag hag sense, chaperones to a gay male who needs an alibi. But even these stretches of the imagination are not enough. No, the text demands more of us. We must then picture them all clustered around the same drumkit ('with two beards, a goatee and a greasy, he played the drums...') Frankly, this beggars belief. In all my years at the bar I have never heard anything so preposterous, and since the rest of Jel's page fails to reach this level of Munchausenian drolerie I am inclined to consider it, alas, a temporary aberration. The defendant may plead insanity if he sees fit. I will try to be lenient, by all the stars!

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread reminds me why I stopped writing.

Nicolars (Nicole), Sunday, 28 September 2003 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.pshares.org/issues/article.cfm?prmArticleID=7114

An enigmatic little poem. I seek the 'key' to its obscurities, but the lock fails to swing open and the ambiguities remain intact, which is a mark of good poetry. I am reminded of Paul Celan, somehow. Which is a good sign. I like the last two lines. 'It's mad, but it just might work' indeed. 8

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Cousel has just passed me a piece of paper relevant to the Jel case. It reads:

White beard (noun): similar to pearl necklace, white {sperm} beard. Semen on one's chin after fellatio.

I am considering a sentence of hard labour.

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)

captions like 'please don't interrupt me while I'm babbling incoherently to myself' strike me as rather lame and normative, not far from the office posters that say 'You don't have to be mad to work here... but it helps!' Order in court, order in court! Guards, take that man away! 3

Damn, I was hoping to finish the re-worked version of that panel before you got to it. Instead of babbling incoherently, he's drinking his morning cup of coffee!! Get it??!! Even lunatics in the asylum need the elixir of the Gods to get through Monday morning in the madhouse!! Can't we ALL relate? Oh, and the other guy has ripped out of his straitjacket and is furiously masturbating, and his spew is about to land in the coffee cup!! It's funny AND shocking!!

ScottRC (ScottRC), Sunday, 28 September 2003 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.memorygongs.com/citysoul.php

The City Without A Soul. Why then does the author resort so heavily to anthropomorphism, as if seeking to assign to the inanimate collection of buildings and trees the attributes of human beings? Do I have to remind him that anthropomorphism is a serious felony in literary law, nearly as grave as paedagogy? Why then must 'buildings stride' and 'windows stare lifeless', why must 'red leaves cry' and 'clocks turn the minutes over like pages'? Why must 'buildings tremble with the thoughts of the workers' and why, why must 'trees seem to speak', to 'shake their leaves at me and laugh'? Be warned, you will never sell the film rights, for Nicholas Cage will never agree to be cast as a laughing tree. (Mort Schuman may, however, be interested in making a richly pathetic musical of your page.) 4

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 14:59 (twenty-two years ago)

(Counsel has just handed me another piece of paper. Marc Almond will probably perform 'The City Without A Soul' in an intimate cabaret at the Raymond Revue Bar, wearing a white beard,' it reads.)

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)

how the fuck is sarai subculture?

cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 28 September 2003 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.angelfire.com/wy/bby2k/frozen.jpg

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 28 September 2003 15:14 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.logarhythm.org.uk/

A Prefuse 73 review may be a handy 'launchpad' with which to beat your 'granny', but don't 'egg the pudding'. Excuse me? I am merely attempting to draw attention to the tendency, in music reviews, to layer metaphor upon metaphor, without thought for the incongruous landscape created in the reader's mind. Look at what happens here. 2001’s Vocal Studies And Uprock Narratives was the opening salvo -- fine, we establish the idea that the record is a bullet or canonball being fired -- that had you salivating But wait! Nobody salivates in the face of a canonball, unless they're a cannibal, surely? Reading on, now the creamy goodness of One Word Extinguisher should keep you fully sated. But 'cream' in such proximity to 'extinguisher' suggests the foam that shoots out of a fire extinguisher. Handy for putting out the fire caused by the salvo, perhaps, but who would 'sate' themselves by eating such stuff? Not even a cannibal would wolf down this 'cream'! Later, Herren is hand-making hip hop mom and pop-style. But a few lines later, as in a pantomime, Mom and Pop cast aside their humble disguises and reveal their humble painted easter eggs as, in fact, another crown of downhome jewels from the Decatur king. 5

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 15:40 (twenty-two years ago)

All right, I got another one for ya:

http://www.jabootu.com/cantstopmusic.htm

(Not actually by Ken Begg, main mover of said site, but his Canadian minion-in-Jabootu Jason MacIsaac.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 28 September 2003 15:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Even lunatics in the asylum need the elixir of the Gods to get through Monday morning in the madhouse!! Can't we ALL relate? Oh, and the other guy has ripped out of his straitjacket and is furiously masturbating, and his spew is about to land in the coffee cup!!

I am asking the clerk of court to delete that remark from the record, although I may use it when I come to sentencing Jel, should he plead insanity.

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 15:42 (twenty-two years ago)

another fucking blog

cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 28 September 2003 15:47 (twenty-two years ago)

http://hipsterdetritus.blogspot.com/2003_09_01_hipsterdetritus_archive.html#106437212224991166

Rate me, hate me, validate me

nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)

i sort of adore this thread (and momus) at the moment.

amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 28 September 2003 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/wedge/

Tom (Groke), Sunday, 28 September 2003 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I like Momus now.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 28 September 2003 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)

another one

http://www.krokodile.co.uk/out2/biograph.htm

?

francesco, Sunday, 28 September 2003 16:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Here we go: http://jaymc.blogspot.com/2003_08_01_jaymc_archive.html

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 28 September 2003 16:26 (twenty-two years ago)

My first entry was actually just the first thing that came into Google when I typed in "blog grrrl". I didn't even bother to read it.

I would be interested in Momus's views on this, though: http://www.scotsmanality.com/article.php?story=20030423204549553

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 28 September 2003 16:40 (twenty-two years ago)

KILL EVERYONE NOW

nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Better than cocaine

This thread dispute between Nate and Trife resembles two hearty, healthy young chimps sparring
a) for territory
b) to see which of them is more mature
c) to see which can get the protection of 'the elders', sitting nearby chewing on twigs while being deloused by females.

Nate mentions cocaine, Trife steps into the clearing with a challenge that he has experienced neither the white powder nor, in fact, sexual intercourse (staking a claim to seniority by implying that he has already sampled both). Nate appeals to the elders to expel the aggressor but is met with indifference. Trife chases him into the brush with the cry 'eat my ass you clueless cum bubble'. As literature or evidence of intelligent life on earth, zero. A mark added for Trife's assonance and alliteration: 'ass' and 'clueless' have alliterative endings, 'clueless' and 'cum' alliterative beginnings, and 'cum bubble' is a nice piece of assonance. For humanity, though, bathos and probable deletion. 1

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, thanks for dredging that back up. That thread should be rendered completely irrelevant from all points onwards, since I'm too busy singing to put anybody down.

nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 17:10 (twenty-two years ago)

if I were judging, I could say that your overreactions are ***** 100% 10/10.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 28 September 2003 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.metal-sludge.com/MonkeyDesk.jpg

nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 17:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Momus: you are ignoring douglas' link.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 28 September 2003 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I have to adjourn now, preparing for a 3000 km drive tomorrow. More later in the week, perhaps.

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 28 September 2003 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah whatever momus.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 28 September 2003 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Hahaha!

adaml (adaml), Sunday, 28 September 2003 18:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Arsehole! JUDGE ME!

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Sunday, 28 September 2003 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)

That's OK Momus, Calum can do the rest.

Tom (Groke), Sunday, 28 September 2003 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually yeah, I'd rather have Calum judge me.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Sunday, 28 September 2003 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)

MOMUS: http://www.browndailyherald.com/post/stories.asp?ID=471

D Aziz (esquire1983), Sunday, 28 September 2003 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)

anotherr blog
cinntiblont sept20003

this writ was by samuel pepsy it says. he writs about the ship and the lord. that means hes talking about jeesus and a boat ride with jeesus. also about the bed and to sleep there too. then about a pickle that was sad but not writ why. and he married a womon that is his wife and likes to go to church. and the talker at the church dood a talk about joggening. then another lady came there that had a baby that was cute and a baby. the lady that had a baby sat on a pew and was talking about feets. then the roof was crashed by a dangerus axcident. then the church talker said. i will fix that roof that got broked and you should go home now. then afterchurch he called a boy on a phone that could ring and they went and had a something drink and it was enjoydible. ate a fish too. then he said. i like a pretty women. and trumpets too. then he vomatid. then he called mister bowzer and asked him fored books. then went to vizet jeesus in the house. when he got there he sat on a bed there and jusd looked at womens that were looking at him thru the windows. he not writ about jeesus and why not in the house. then he left the house and to buy socks for his feets. and met frends while buying socks for his feets. then he writs more about drinkings and some misters. then sleeps in a bed.

when he wakes upped. he talking about mister bowzer and the books of mister bowzer again. then he walked around the river and saw a scary dead man in the river that had to be burried in the nite becos of being dead. then he went and dooded more drinking with importont misters. then they all had a fite and ate walnuts that were good. at 100 oclock he went home and had a barrel that he drank with the misters. then went to bed.

i wantad to hear more about why the pickle was sad and the jeesus boat ride. that means i gives this writ that samuel pepsy dooded the number 5.

[email protected], Sunday, 28 September 2003 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha! I like my review. I picked a piece I wrote a long time ago that was a deliberate (if clumsy) Calvino pastiche - no mention of that at all, though tis been picked up by others in the past. I'dve been disappointed otherwise if it hadn't been picked to bits. Heh.

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 28 September 2003 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.electromancer.com/showTrack.php?id=25f8c4a4f1

'The Caudal Appendage and Haemorrhoids' is my new track on Electromancer. The words are from a poem I recently had published in M(onkey) K(ettle) magazine. I would be thrilled if you reviewed it, Momus.

Rogan Whitenails, Tuesday, 30 September 2003 08:32 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.fractalstorm.com/cgi-bin/columns.cgi?path=HWHP

anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 14:03 (twenty-two years ago)

haha, this is a joke, but you can rate mine anyways, senor Momus: http://www.livejournal.com/users/capnjeremy

Jeremy Wilson, Saturday, 4 October 2003 17:15 (twenty-two years ago)

'Do museums "cheapen" art?'

http://medpundit.blogspot.com/2002_11_17_medpundit_archive.html

Ken China, Sunday, 5 October 2003 09:06 (twenty-two years ago)

quite beautiful : Christoph Waltz on posing. (Assuming that Momus has picked up some German in Berlin.)

Herbstmute (Wintermute), Sunday, 5 October 2003 16:40 (twenty-two years ago)

three months pass...
Since this session was adjourned, many pleas have been made, compelling evidence gathered; and heaps of intelligent things have been written. Will the judge now resume his place on the bench.

Minister of Justice, Wednesday, 14 January 2004 13:43 (twenty-two years ago)

JUDGE US!

JUDGE US!, Friday, 16 January 2004 02:04 (twenty-two years ago)

That Wikipedia Charlie Parker entry has become noticeably more informative since Momus rated it.

o. nate (onate), Friday, 16 January 2004 02:19 (twenty-two years ago)

(They must have taken his criticisms to heart.)

o. nate (onate), Friday, 16 January 2004 02:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Holy shit, I really should have paid more attention to Momus when he wrote:

...one begins to wonder whether there is therapeutic value in the semi-public admission of negative feelings, or whether they just anchor and externalise what would otherwise be trivial and transitory moods.

OT fucking M

Andrew (enneff), Friday, 16 January 2004 02:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Eep, that is a good observation indeed. Oh dear. *starts to wonder about self*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 January 2004 02:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Momus, one of my favourite pieces from my all time favourite blog, by Joel Biroco - the Aug 30 entry only, on the r37 key and London's underground tunnel systems:

http://biroco.com/2003_08.htm

Unleash you superego on that one, Your Honour. But remember, justic is blind, and you still have one eye.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 16 January 2004 02:49 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...
Well that's just great.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 2 February 2004 21:51 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...
Does the Lord judge now or at the Judgment?

Taciturn Michael, Friday, 16 April 2004 12:52 (twenty-two years ago)

This is the threat where we like Momus

submitted

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 16 April 2004 13:38 (twenty-two years ago)

four months pass...
I am all your fault!

cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

some of me.

cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

the bad bits.

cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

HE'S NOT MY DAD!

cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

are you sure?

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

It's "Mummus". Rhymes with "Hummus".

adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

anyway, I liked it when momus got functional and started judging people. if I remember thr are some links outstanding, and he's around, so...

cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

eight months pass...
...

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

We were so young and pretty then.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)


http://www.eastbayexpress.com/Issues/2005-05-18/music/close2thaedge.html

the black hand, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

When Dizzee Rascal comes back to Chicago, I'm totally going to go, just to run up to random women and say, "Pardon me, good lady, but what is grime?"

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

We were so young and pretty then.

There were concerts in the park...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

If you wake up Tuesday morning hungering for the sound of the future, you'd be better to swoop up something like Roots Manuva's new album, Awfully Deep, which trades follow-the-crowd uniformity for originality and uniqueness. Grime is gonna wash away come next rain, but hey, if you prefer a fad whose egg timer is already counting down its fifteen minutes, by all means snatch a copy of Run the Road -- quick, before it's passé.

i like how he's based this assessment on the fact that at a club night he went to it took a long time for the DJs to play grime.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

GRIME IS BRITISH, GEDDIT?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Momus just wanted to wear one of those wigs.

Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG, I'm dying here just rereading Momus's criticism of a thing I wrote up out of a general feeling of spite and negative energy. What he had to say was just so spot on! It's hilarious.

I wish he was still doing this thing so he could critique my LJ, now that I actually *have* one (these were the pre-LJ days for me, I think). But as for now, I'll reflect upon his "terrible writing, but terribly entertaining" quip.

The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
i'd like Momus to revive this from time to time as well...

Bob Six (bobbysix), Saturday, 13 August 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
Momus is too self-deprecating now to judge.

Pi, Thursday, 13 October 2005 07:17 (twenty years ago)

Did I miss something?

k/l (Ken L), Thursday, 13 October 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

Dear Mr. Momus, this is a poem what i have just writ, can you tell me whatt you think of it?

American Football (A Reflection upon the Gulf War)

Hallelullah!
It works.
We blew the shit out of them.

We blew the shit right back up their own ass
And out their fucking ears.

It works.
We blew the shit out of them.
They suffocated in their own shit!

Hallelullah.
Praise the Lord for all good things.

We blew them into fucking shit.
They are eating it.

Praise the Lord for all good things.

We blew their balls into shards of dust,
Into shards of fucking dust.

We did it.

Now I want you to come over here and kiss me on the mouth.

H. Pinter (Dada), Thursday, 13 October 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

Momus, judges.

Wolves, lower.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 13 October 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

.

deej, Friday, 15 February 2008 06:19 (eighteen years ago)

...

gbx, Friday, 15 February 2008 06:25 (eighteen years ago)

Och, Moemoos, will ye no come back againe?

Mark G, Friday, 15 February 2008 09:32 (eighteen years ago)

THREAD TITLE RIFE WITH POSSIBLE ALLUSIONS
ALSO SELF-PARODIC

-- amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, September 27, 2003 9:31 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link

lol

31g, Friday, 15 February 2008 09:34 (eighteen years ago)


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