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new double-dvd full of good stuff! this movie is so amazing!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 00:53 (twenty years ago) link

seriously, it don't get much better than this folks

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 00:54 (twenty years ago) link

i like it

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 August 2004 00:56 (twenty years ago) link

sorry for ruingin your huckabees thread with my bragging.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 August 2004 00:57 (twenty years ago) link

no you love it (xp)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 00:57 (twenty years ago) link

and you are never allowed to ruinge a thread of mine again

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 00:57 (twenty years ago) link

BEST. MOVIE. EVER.

― jess, Thursday, 19 August 2004 01:07 (twenty years ago) link

YES

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 19 August 2004 01:08 (twenty years ago) link

i have a lot of dvd's to purchase this week!

― jess, Thursday, 19 August 2004 01:09 (twenty years ago) link

Amazon has the entire Scorsese box set for ~$40

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 19 August 2004 01:21 (twenty years ago) link

!!!!!! Fucking hell, the entire set?

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:02 (twenty years ago) link

no, he probably means the GoodFellas, alice doesn't etc, who's that knocketc, after hours and mean sts. one.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:08 (twenty years ago) link

It's all about "After Hours", people....

RFI: Classical Music in Scorsese's "After Hours"

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:08 (twenty years ago) link

Alex...it is so NOT all about After Hours.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:09 (twenty years ago) link

why does he put his money in the cradle?

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:10 (twenty years ago) link

I love "Goodfellas," but it's kinda flawed. "Mean Streets" redux. The character of Henry is a bit of a cipher, actually. But I love it anyway.

― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:12 (twenty years ago) link

"Goodfellas" is indeed a fucking masterpiece, it's true.

....but it's still all about "After Hours". Stop living in denial.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:12 (twenty years ago) link

Alex, you know, I normally agree with you, except for about the Greenpeace people, but you are so wrong right now.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:14 (twenty years ago) link

Stop living in denial.
NO

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:14 (twenty years ago) link

Watch it again. Ascend from the viscuous mudslick of sickly, abject wrongness you're currently slopping around in like giddy dungbeatles.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:15 (twenty years ago) link

No, Alex, seriously, you're not right here.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:20 (twenty years ago) link

ALEX IT IS A BAD SHITTY SILLY MOVIE

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:21 (twenty years ago) link

Well, I'd agree with you if you weren't wrong, Ally.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:22 (twenty years ago) link

I mean, I applaud your civic pride and everything...but man, even Trading Places is better than After Hours.

Actually, Trading Places is great!

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:22 (twenty years ago) link

"Trading Places" is a great, great movie, but it has no place in this debate.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:23 (twenty years ago) link

I just put it there!

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:23 (twenty years ago) link

Do you ever find yourself missing the 1980s, Alex?

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:24 (twenty years ago) link

I doubt it's ever crossed your mind.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:24 (twenty years ago) link

After Hours is only OK.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:24 (twenty years ago) link

Further evidence of your failure to see things clearly.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:24 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think there's any point, in talking about after hours, at this point.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:25 (twenty years ago) link

sorry, I meant I don't think there's any point, at this point.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:26 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, let's ignore history, shall we?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:26 (twenty years ago) link

That's what you said, though.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:26 (twenty years ago) link

GOODFELLAS IS OUT ON DOUBLE DVD

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:27 (twenty years ago) link

All I'm saying is that "After Hours" is a perfect film, and that you're all eating boxfulls and boxfulls of Twinkies that fell from the Wrong Tree.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:27 (twenty years ago) link

I KNOW , I OWN IT ALREADY.

xpost After Hours is ok but it's not as good as:

Taxi Driver
Raging Bull
GOODFUCKINGFELLAS
etc.

But it is better than Gangs of NY.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:28 (twenty years ago) link

Alex, you are unwittingly eating baby food sprinkled with misguidance.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:29 (twenty years ago) link

"Gangs of New York" is an ambitious albeit deeply flawed film.

"Taxi Driver" and "Goodfellas" are untouchably sublime films.

"After Hours" is simply my favorite film of all time.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:29 (twenty years ago) link

Sorry for the poor metaphor...but it's really all I'm capable of right now.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:30 (twenty years ago) link

Casino, anyone?

― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:31 (twenty years ago) link

"The Breakfast Club" is on AMC right now.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:32 (twenty years ago) link

It has some great Stones tracks on the soundtrack so yes - especially for Sweet Virginia.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:32 (twenty years ago) link

Casino is good for having Devo on the soundtrack.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:33 (twenty years ago) link

Might be Pesci's finest hour. Shame he had to die so painfully.

― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:33 (twenty years ago) link

"Jump Into the Fire" by Nilsson during the paranoid chopper/coke/pasta scene of "Goodfellas" = brilliance

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:33 (twenty years ago) link

Casino rules!

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:33 (twenty years ago) link

Never saw "Casino", actually, but now having heard that Devo appears, it will be viewed with all haste.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:34 (twenty years ago) link

Clarence Frogman Henry to thread.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:34 (twenty years ago) link

Well they don't APPEAR, Alex. I mean really you could just put on "I Can't Get No Satisfaction" on and just look at a pic of DeNiro, same difference.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:34 (twenty years ago) link

Well, they sonically appear.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:35 (twenty years ago) link

There's a Devo track in Dogtown And Z-Boys, Alex. And Alice Cooper! You should see that movie!

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:35 (twenty years ago) link

Saw. Saw it before you. (Glen Friedman lives down my hall).

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:35 (twenty years ago) link

Boy was that an assholey comment from yours truly.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:35 (twenty years ago) link

i like after hours

― gaz (gaz), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:36 (twenty years ago) link

No, I just want to make sure you see it.

oh no gaz

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:36 (twenty years ago) link

OK well Casino isn't bad, it's good, but it's not really good.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:36 (twenty years ago) link

ihttp://www.scorsesefilms.com/photos/images/images/dunne_jpg.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:40 (twenty years ago) link

Thanks for proving me right, Alex.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:41 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.tvguide.com/movies/dbpix/images/27135a.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:41 (twenty years ago) link

Actually his choice of screen shots is making it look better than I remember it.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:42 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.xenix.ch/archiv/juli99/img_juli99/after.gif

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:43 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.jeu.frcd.freesurf.fr/jpg/14s11i05.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:45 (twenty years ago) link

I've never actually seen a Scorsese movie, except for half of GONY which was one of the worst things I've ever seen.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:45 (twenty years ago) link

http://saoki.site0.com/poly/engl372/scorsese/after-hours.gif

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:47 (twenty years ago) link

Griffin Dunne is NOT cool.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:48 (twenty years ago) link

I've never actually seen a Scorsese movie, except for half of GONY which was one of the worst things I've ever seen.

"GONY" sounds like an obscure Japanese children's movie about a playful panda that ran away from a circus.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:48 (twenty years ago) link

Griffin Dunne is NOT cool.

Who said everyone had to be cool?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:49 (twenty years ago) link

not me, but I am saying he's not, that's for damn sure. He makes James Spader seem like a method actor.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:50 (twenty years ago) link

Well, to be fair, I haven't thought much of him in any other roles (though he was entertaining as Frank Zappa in that VH1 movie about the PMRC). That movie he made with Madonna was unwatchable, though.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:51 (twenty years ago) link

Just fucking admit it, dudes - Griffin Dunne and James Spader only have one face.

I know they can open and close their mouth and eyes, but I personally class those as biological functions, pure and simple. Other than that, they wear that face like a mask 24-7. Let's just all agree on this one and then we can move on to politics or something. I mean, I'M a movie person! But Griffin Dunne's and James Spader's faces are like the wind, they don't change. Evolution is done with Griffin Dunne's and James Spader's faces. Science and art have turned their attentions to worthier subjects, like stem cell research and sound installation. And when we're all so much wormfood, Griffin Dunne and James Spader will still be there, with the same fucking faces.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:53 (twenty years ago) link

James Spader? How did he get into this?

Alright. Sorry for hijacking this thread with my unconditional, fundmentalist alleigance to the perfection that is "After Hours" (maybe it's a New York thing...you have to have lived here to fully appreciate it). I now return this thread to the original topic, already in progress.

And here's an on-topic question to loop it back around: Why did Scorsese pick Sid Vicious' "My Way" for the end credits?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:55 (twenty years ago) link

chronologically and aesthetically appropriate. Sinatra-era gangsters hobbling into the 1980s.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:57 (twenty years ago) link

Sinatra-era gangsters hobbling into the 1980s.

Hmmmm....dunno'bout that. It still seems a bit incongruous to me (not the chronology part, but the aesthetic appropriateness).

Anyway, it's Midnight....my shift is over. Nighty night, ILX.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:58 (twenty years ago) link

my way is the perfect way to end goodfellas... because henry hill did it his way!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:41 (twenty years ago) link

anyway the point is no more after hours pics would be appreciated on this thread

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:43 (twenty years ago) link

http://membres.lycos.fr/goodfellasbyfab/rt4.jpg

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:51 (twenty years ago) link

friends forever

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:52 (twenty years ago) link

Alex in NYC utterly and absolutely OTM.

― Symplistic (shmuel), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:55 (twenty years ago) link

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:56 (twenty years ago) link

yes

― Symplistic (shmuel), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:57 (twenty years ago) link

fite

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:57 (twenty years ago) link

how hot is lorraine bracco in this movie

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:57 (twenty years ago) link

"i have to admit... it turned me on!"

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:58 (twenty years ago) link

And here's an on-topic question to loop it back around: Why did Scorsese pick Sid Vicious' "My Way" for the end credits?

-- Alex in NYC (vassife...) (webmail), August 18th, 2004 10:55 PM. (vassifer) (later) (link)

because both sid vicious and henry hill were self-destructive louts whose following their id only got them into terrible trouble? (also the ironic wink to sinatra--it's a mob movie after all.) it seems a beautifully appropriate choice to me.

btw this movie rules, but casino is even better.

― amateur!!st (amateurist), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:59 (twenty years ago) link

i beg to differ, casino kinda falls apart in the last act don't you find?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:59 (twenty years ago) link

It's not like After Hours is objectively the best Scorcese movie, but it is my favorite Scorcese movie.

― Symplistic (shmuel), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:59 (twenty years ago) link

that's how I feel about Casino though I find Goodfellas more entertaining.

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 19 August 2004 04:00 (twenty years ago) link

like casino kinda chokes, while goodfellas just flies in that amazing last half hour (the "last day as a gangster" sequence with the helicopters and the spaghetti and the guns and the coke and the jumpcuts), and you can't beat the ending in the courtroom. that's like my favourite 4th-wall breaking ever!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 04:00 (twenty years ago) link

Pesci and Stone are so amazing in Casino though. Especially Pesci, he's just awesome.

There's an actual would-be-Sinatra character in Goodfellas, that singer at the nightclub.

― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Thursday, 19 August 2004 04:14 (twenty years ago) link

ah man, i'm too tired and boozed up to explain why i love casino. maybe this weekend.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, 19 August 2004 04:15 (twenty years ago) link

but yes: sharon stone.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, 19 August 2004 04:15 (twenty years ago) link

I always thought that Sid Vicious' version ends GoodFellas because it's a punk-ass way of giving the finger to the old guard (Sinatra, the Italian Mob) like Henry did.

I saw this movie for the first time in the early nineties, when I was a punk teenager. I immediately loved it and watched it again and again and again. It became the first DVD I ever bought, and will probably become the first DVD that I ever rebuy. The one I have now is a flipper!

I watched it six months ago, half expecting that some of the magic would have dimmed since I'm now a grown man in his thirties. I loved it even more. My favorite movie of all time. Fuck The Godfather.

And Good Lord, fuck After Hours at the same time. Is that all there is? He goes to work covered in paint, huzzah for metaphors.

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 19 August 2004 04:36 (twenty years ago) link

casino is poop Scorcese has never topped Taxi Driver.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 04:38 (twenty years ago) link

though I'd like to thank you all for not bringing up Raging Bullshit.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 04:39 (twenty years ago) link

oh the boxing is just a little too close to dancing for you, Miccio!

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 19 August 2004 04:42 (twenty years ago) link

I just traded in my cheapo Raging Bull DVD because it's "out of print" and Amoeba gave me twenty for it. I admire it but it's not one I'd watch more than once every couple of years, and Luomo and Viktor Vaughn beckoned.

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 19 August 2004 04:46 (twenty years ago) link

I can't wait to see the documentary and hear the commentary for GoodFellas.

The scene where Henry's car stays parked out front of his girlfriend's apartment, and the night turns to morning.

The jump edits, like when Henry looks out the window and the edit gives him a double take while he's making the sauce.

Tommy's line of "I didn't mean to mess up your floor!" while they're wrapping up Billy Batts. Was that line adlibbed?

Oh, and the deleted scenes. I wonder how much is on there? Dammit, I guess I'll have to get this tomorrow.

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 19 August 2004 05:02 (twenty years ago) link

Get the fuck outta here what're you nuts?
I'm telling ya

― Uh-Huh Him (Enrique), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:01 (twenty years ago) link

My respect and affection for many people on ILX whom I previosuly respected and held in affection has just nose-dived. Goodfellas? The Breakfast Club? Fuck's sake.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:09 (twenty years ago) link

Scorsese can go and fuck a horse, man.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:11 (twenty years ago) link

how can you not like 'goodfellas'?! wtf?

― G-L-O-R-I-A (Enrique), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:14 (twenty years ago) link

scorsese should've directed the breakfast club!

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:15 (twenty years ago) link

'The type of movies that become classics'

I can not like it because it's fucking horrible.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:16 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/5269/diner.jpg

― G-L-O-R-I-A (Enrique), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:17 (twenty years ago) link

Nope, still hate it.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:23 (twenty years ago) link

WRONGITUDE. I know it's an 'Uncut/Hotdog/FilmFour' canon-stuffer n'all but the film rocks ANY house you care to name. It's an objective fact, Nick.

― ENRG (Enrique), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:26 (twenty years ago) link

It does not rock my house. I really dislike it. Not as much as Taxi Driver though.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:29 (twenty years ago) link

And I love you to bits and know yr half joking wiv the "It's an objective fact" line, but that kind of automatic, unquestionign assumption really pisses me off, whether it's about The Beatles or Scorsese or whoever. NOT everyone has to like these things which are ranked as classic.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:31 (twenty years ago) link

The tracking shot going into the club is a work of fucking genius. The soundtrack is superb - I defy anyone to do coke-addled paranoia better than the scenes leading up to the arrest of Henry. It covers the food culutre within the mafia lifestyle, the cheapness, the inanity, the casual violence underpinning it. The book is good, but the film takes a great story to another level. My all-time number one film evah.

― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:35 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.scorsese.stopklatka.pl/good24.jpg

― Uh-Huh Him (Enrique), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:37 (twenty years ago) link

It's a film I've seen about a million times, and I don't even think about it as a 'favourite' because it's just *there*. 'Taxi Driver' I love also, but in a very different way. I don't care about Scorsese particularly, but these are two amazing films.

― Uh-Huh Him (Enrique), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:49 (twenty years ago) link

I think film to me is about something very different to other people who are 'into' films. I really dislike Taxi Driver, and was very disappointed when my brother bought me the DVD of it a few years ago, because a; it showed that we don't really communicate that much or he'd know my antipathy for it and Scorsese, and 2; it's a really dull, canonical choice, "I will buy you this because it is good" instead of "I will buy you this because I think you will enjoy/love it". I bought Emma Short Circuit the other week and she was thrilled.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:56 (twenty years ago) link

you're a fanny.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:57 (twenty years ago) link

It is good *and* you might love it. 'TD' is sorta sexist and racist perhaps, but other than that it's only an accident that it seems 'obvious'. Lots of obvious films *are* bad (eg 'Easy Rider') but this one isn't.

― ENRG (Enrique), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:59 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, cheers RJG, that's just the sort of constructive remark I was praying for.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:00 (twenty years ago) link

I defy anyone to do coke-addled paranoia better than the scenes leading up to the arrest of Henry

How about the mountain of blow scenes in Scarface? They should be up there too.

― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:00 (twenty years ago) link

I thought we were giving opinions.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:01 (twenty years ago) link

My opinion, then, is that, you're, a dick.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:02 (twenty years ago) link

you hate the obvious, don't you?

the obvious being that YOU'RE the dick!!!!

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:05 (twenty years ago) link

I don't hate the obvious, I hate lazy cultural experiences. My favourite film is probably Jaws.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:09 (twenty years ago) link

The soundtrack is superb - I defy anyone to do coke-addled paranoia better than the scenes leading up to the arrest of Henry.

This is the key point I think, no-one, other than say Jonathan Demme or Tarantino can use popular music as a plot device as well as Scorsese. Take the music away it's a fine, well acted, above average mob movie. Put the soundtrack in, it's elevated to a work of genius. Whenever I hear the piano coda of 'Layla' I immediately think of the corpse swimming through the trash (and what a duffer the rest of Clapton's catalogue is).

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:12 (twenty years ago) link

cool.

crosspost

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:13 (twenty years ago) link

Point: has anyone changed their opinion of Goodfellas, for better or worse, since the advent of The Sopranos?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:16 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think so.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:19 (twenty years ago) link

Goodfellas is just such a thoughtless, hollow, unappealing film though. From the way the camera moves and shots are composed to the way the characters interract with each other, everything is about appearance and glamourisation, and glamourisation of really nasty, base, horrible things. And they're neither nasty, base and hollow in a compelling, rubbernecking way, or in a thrilling, exciting way, it's just deadening and unpleasant and empty.

And aside from my dislike of it on an aesthetic and emotional level, there's the whole rhetoric that surrounds it, which works on two levels. The first is the whole "oh but they're gangsters and cool and romantic and italian and just cool and it's such a cool film man I loe it when he shoves that thing in the back of the guy's neck" which is pretty easy to dismiss because it's utterly superficial. And then there's the level above that, which is what Henry's just wandered into, which is the use of film school technical talk to justify liking the film and take the film from being "a film I like" to "a great film", which then engenders a belief in the person delivering the rhetoric that it's absolutely impervious to criticism and that anybody who disagrees is just plain wrong and their opinion not worth considering. That whole "oh but the mis-en-scene is so great, and the lighting on the car outside the house and the way this shot cuts into the next and so on and the way blahblahblah", yes, technically it might be very well put together but that does NOT mean that everyone MUST necessarily like it. And that out-of-hand dismissal of someone else's opinion because you believe yours to be based in fact is total fucking rockism.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:22 (twenty years ago) link

I like 'GF' and 'The Sopranos' like family. Neither of them are lazy cultual experiences. And not hollow: they both conjure up reallly dense feelings of being-there-ness. They don't glamourize violence, but thye don't moralize either. An obvious gangster meme is how close gangster practice is to 'legit' practice. This is a film that practically got me into film. But I wasn't much aware of all the film school stuff then. It just felt like a film I could immerse myself in. Now unfortunately I know how it's put together. But FFS: 'Jaws' has the *same* film-school stuff: they *both* use the 'Vertigo' zoom in/track back!

― ENRG (Enrique), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:27 (twenty years ago) link

I know it does, but I just find Jaws much more compelling and enjoyable; saying I should like both because they both use the Vertigo zoom is like saying you should like M People and The Small faces cos they both did "Itchycoo Park", or should like The Stone Roses and The Seahorses because Squire played guitar in both and he's technically very good, or that I ought to like both Embrace and Coldplay because bits of their work sound a bit alike. If it was JUST about liking things because of their similarities to other things you like, what would be the point? Cultural existence would be so much more predictable and dull. I don't find GF immersive, I find it oppressive and unpleasant, and not worth the while of the unpleasantness.

And I'm not saying that GF or TD are in themselves "lazy cultural experiences", because I'm not sure anything of itself it, but the way the rhetoric that surrounds these films directs the discourse of them suggests a lazy cultural experience on the part of many people viewing them, because they've already been canonised as 'classic' people simply sit and watch them and accept that classic status and repeat it by rote, instead of trying to actually engage with the film themselves. It's second-hand reactiosn to things, received wisdom masquerading as insight.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:35 (twenty years ago) link

it's okay, that you don't like it.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:37 (twenty years ago) link

I know that - my problem is with people who insist that it's not OK to not like it - I'm not trying to convince anyone else to not like it, just justifying why I don't like it, because so often my opinion of GF and TD etcetera is met with such incredulity that I've had to explain exactly why countless bloomin' times.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:40 (twenty years ago) link

And, you know, it's always just as valid to not like something as it is to like it, as long as you've made an effort to engage and understand why other people do like it.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:41 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think those people really exist, though: I'm sure rockists really *do* like Paul Weller on a gut level, same as I like 'Goodfellas' that way. The problem is when you write off, say 'Jaws' for being popcorn bullshit or whatever: *that* would be rockism. It's okay not to like it, just, you know, totally, irreversibly wrong-headed ( I kid, I kid ).

― ENRG (Enrique), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:42 (twenty years ago) link

that isn't justification; it's dismissal.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:46 (twenty years ago) link

I'm putting forth reasons for my dismissal, RJG, ergo justification.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:47 (twenty years ago) link

Also, Henry, it's not about liking Weller on a gut level or dismissing Jaws as popcorn bullshit - it's about refusing to accept that some people don't like Weller.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:48 (twenty years ago) link

that's true. people just get very attached to their favourite things. it's like people who don't like red wine or sex or something, it's like 'wtf?'.

― ENRG (Enrique), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:51 (twenty years ago) link

your "reasons" don't seem to be about the movie.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:53 (twenty years ago) link

wtf is Goodfellas is just such a thoughtless, hollow, unappealing film though. From the way the camera moves and shots are composed to the way the characters interract with each other, everything is about appearance and glamourisation, and glamourisation of really nasty, base, horrible things. And they're neither nasty, base and hollow in a compelling, rubbernecking way, or in a thrilling, exciting way, it's just deadening and unpleasant and empty then?

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:53 (twenty years ago) link

thoughtless, hollow, unappealing

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:54 (twenty years ago) link

So "I don't like the film because of my reaction to the film, which is one of dislike because of X, Y and Z" is not sufficient then?

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:56 (twenty years ago) link

it's not that you didn't give reasons, but it's like 'how so? it isn't any of those things!' i can't be rational about this, helas. also i am tired and emotional today.

― ENRG (Enrique), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:57 (twenty years ago) link

X, Y and Z?

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:58 (twenty years ago) link

OK. I feel no empathy for any of the characters, I feel like an utterly disenfranchised observer at all times, neither sickened nor wowed by events. This goes for all Scorsese films I have seen - not one character in one of his films has appealed to me as a human. I also find the tone of them too serious and self-important - say TD is about the fall of man in urban environment, well so is Fightclub but FC is funny and has visuals which I find much more appealing, plus a degree of self-reference which I always welcome. I don't find the way Scorsese frames shots or moves a camera striking or dazzling (and I don't mean being literally dazzled by light or speed, I mean in a "wow, that was an amazing shot" way) at all, which seems to be something a lot of other people like about them. Plus impressions of Joe Pesci are always >>>>>> Joe Pesci himself.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:03 (twenty years ago) link

Also I came to GF after I'd fallen for The Godfather, which seems to deal with many of the same ideas, but does so on both a bigger and more well observed scale - it's about family, it's not a gangster movie, it's a fucking great big family romance (not in the Freudian sense, obv.).

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:05 (twenty years ago) link

I do not like Goodfellas, but 80's movies that culminate in basically every other cast member chasing the protagonist throught the streets are the BEST so I think I'm with Alex on this one.

(Goodfellas, come on, it doesn't say "fuck you" to the old guard, it is itself the last of the truly clichéd self-satirizing stupid old mob movies unless you count Casino except Casino is great. Fuck it, I just hate most trad-mob movies I guess).

on review: Nick OTM esp. re: Pesci.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:08 (twenty years ago) link

Just the whole first wave of New Hollywood was like ugh.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:09 (twenty years ago) link

I liked you.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:10 (twenty years ago) link

wait a minute wtf does that mean it's 1990, wrong thread or something good night.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:10 (twenty years ago) link

(w/r/t my last post not yr very sad one rjg)

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:10 (twenty years ago) link

Look, this thread is all wrong. This is not the ILE I know. You people are supposed to adore, like, Casino and Heat and stuff! Not fucking Goodfellas! It's like saying your favorite Tarantino film is Pulp Fiction nOOOOOOO.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:13 (twenty years ago) link

I luv Heat.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:14 (twenty years ago) link

Oh shit! you know what does Goodfellas better than Goodfellas does? The Sandlot, and THE WONDER YEARS. FUCK YOOUOUUUUUU

(I love heat too)

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:14 (twenty years ago) link

so, this is how the new meaning of "alternative" came about.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:15 (twenty years ago) link

Oh for God's sake, can't you all be big enough to say 'I was wrong'? Goodfellas MICTURATES on your fucking 'Heat'.

― ENRG (Enrique), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:16 (twenty years ago) link

Heat rocks hard.

― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:20 (twenty years ago) link

casino kinda falls apart in the last act don't you find

I would really like someone to point me towards any of these films where that ISN'T the case. I mean any story about mobsters spanning multiple decades is going to be shit at the end, there is nothing climactic about watching some wiseguy get old, lose his edge and get thrown in the clink / murdered by his own stooges / enter the witness protection program. This is why Scarface is the best one, it goes out on a high note, you don't have to sit through a bunch of Tony and Manolo's midlife anecdotes or a succession of pointless relationships with mousy gold-digging bitches.

I think I see what Nick is saying about Goodfellas, and that goes for a lot of other similar movies with me as well. At the end of the day it's still a story about an asshole and his asshole friends, I mean Ray Liotta as Henry Hill has to be one of the least compelling characters I've ever seen, the fucking rat should get beaten to death.

DeNiro and Pacino are great because they can play these asshole characters and make them incredibly compelling, Pesci less so but still about a thousand times better than Ray fucking Liotta. I guess since Henry Hill is himself a pathetic excuse for a human being it's appropriate to cast the most uncharismatic man this side of the Baldwin brothers to play him but that does not make it any more enjoyable. Then again if you are watching Goodfellas for Ray Liotta you need your head examined.

What I've learned from this thread: Gangster movies need more 80s music. Did you know Brian DePalma directed the video for "Dancing In The Dark?"

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:15 (twenty years ago) link

I haven't seen After Hours but is it anything like the new Streets album?

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:20 (twenty years ago) link

And Good Lord, fuck After Hours at the same time. Is that all there is? He goes to work covered in paint, huzzah for metaphors.

That's all you took from the film? You're a bozo.

"Goodfellas" is a great film, as I've said, but it's just yet another mob movie. Do we really need more of those?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:22 (twenty years ago) link

If they're good, yes.

― ENRG (Enrique), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:26 (twenty years ago) link

OK there are exactly 2 movies that Ray Liotta is good in, and this is definitely one of them, that's completely mentalist.

Also Heat is a Michael Mann film, why are we talking about Heat at all, briefly?

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:30 (twenty years ago) link

Apparently it's 'too obvious' to prefer to 'Goodfellas' to 'Heat' or the CLEARLY INFERIOR 'Casino'...

― ENRG (Enrique), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:33 (twenty years ago) link

OK the only problem with the compellingness of the acting in Goodfellas from my point of view is that I sometimes find it hard to believe it's actually acting and not just Liotta, DeNiro, Pesci and Sorvino calling each other the wrong names for 3 hours.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:40 (twenty years ago) link

Operation Dumbo Drop?

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:40 (twenty years ago) link

Also GF is bad because it's THREE HOURS LONG and the only way a film can justify that is if it's got dragons and/or werewolves in it.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:42 (twenty years ago) link

Dude, no, Field of Dreams. His portrayal of Joe Jackson is fucking incredible. I mean, the entire character bears absolutely no resemblance to Joe Jackson whatsoever, it's amazing. "Let's take this character of an illiterate, sort of slow-witted, very nice Southerner and have him played by...RAY LIOTTA!!!!!!"

xpost or lots of blood and drugs, see also Scarface!

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:43 (twenty years ago) link

Although I haven't seen Operation Dumbo Drop, he could be excellent in it.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:44 (twenty years ago) link

Haha, I've never watched Scarface all the way through cos "it's just more gangster shit" innit!

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:44 (twenty years ago) link

A Bronx Tale

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:50 (twenty years ago) link

Are there dragons?

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:50 (twenty years ago) link

See, Reign Of Fire could have been SO DAMN GOOD and it just fuXXored it all up.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:50 (twenty years ago) link

I thought Ray Liotta was Hollywood Speak for "Straight To Video".

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:51 (twenty years ago) link

A Bronx Tale has no dragons but it does have Chazz Palminteri.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:54 (twenty years ago) link

Operation Dumbo Drop has been added to your Rental Queue.
This movie is available now.

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:56 (twenty years ago) link

Tom you should play that movie as the back drop when you get married.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:57 (twenty years ago) link

Please, we already decided on Dune.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:58 (twenty years ago) link

I love Casino. It's one of those movies that a director couldn't have done first and had deemed a classic, but I already like the director's (and actors') "thing" so much that I'm happy to watch it all day. See also: Jackie Brown, although I do think it's Tarantino's best film in a lot of other ways.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:58 (twenty years ago) link

WAIT--Nick, does Dune meet your specifications? It doesn't have dragons but it has giant worms which strike me as being similiar in a fashion, to dragons. Is this an ok 3hr long movie?

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:59 (twenty years ago) link

i havn't been able to enjoy goodfellas since seeing blow.

― kephm, Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:59 (twenty years ago) link

These mob movies need more Frank Vincent, Frank Sivero and Tony Sirico.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:01 (twenty years ago) link

uh goodfellas?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:11 (twenty years ago) link

"Goodfellas" is a great film, as I've said, but it's just yet another mob movie. Do we really need more of those?

goodfellas was made 15 years ago!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:16 (twenty years ago) link

do we really need ANOTHER rock album?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:16 (twenty years ago) link

Dune may not fit some of the other specification but it does have the original 3-hour-long-movie requirment: Lots and lots of sand.

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:18 (twenty years ago) link

funny that you should mention dune, that movie really reminds me of casino in that it's totally great until about 2/3rds of the way through when it just falls apart

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:19 (twenty years ago) link

In fact I would have to say that if Scarface, Goodfellas, and Casino had been set on desert planets I would probably just watch those films to the exclusion of all others.

Really though what does everybody think of The Untouchables?

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:23 (twenty years ago) link

rules

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:24 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think anybody's brought up Mean Streets, which might be my favorite Scorcese pic ever.

Untouchables, like Scarface, is good when I'm getting DePalma-ized rather than Mamet-ized or Stone-ized. There's a LOT more Stone in Scarface than there is Mamet in Untouchables, so I prefer Untouchables.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:26 (twenty years ago) link

that sentence kinda broke my brain

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:27 (twenty years ago) link

anyway untouchables is totally classic!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:27 (twenty years ago) link

for every stilted "I will protect this city for it what I am to be doing with my destiny"-type line in Untouchables there's 80 hellish obvious, miserable Stone cliches in Scarface. There's some beautiful trash in Scarface but I find it unwatchable without the ol' FFWD.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:28 (twenty years ago) link

man i gotta see scarface again

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:29 (twenty years ago) link

they should do one of those "director's cut's" of Scarface where DePalma makes the film shorter. His vision was, and I'm barely paraphrasing "Cubans blowing up! COCAINE! GUNS!" and Oliver Stone had this thing about how all the mud people (as well as the gays and the military-industrial complex, but that's in other movies) were going to destroy America (it's a reoccuring theme). If we could just slice some of those scenes out and keep the "FAAHK YOU! *kablooey!*" stuff it'd be super.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:32 (twenty years ago) link

i want a dvd with just the donald sutherland scene from jfk

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:34 (twenty years ago) link

mr x!

― kephm, Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:36 (twenty years ago) link

Donald Sutherland was totally underutilized in every film discussed on this thread so far

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:36 (twenty years ago) link

I hate lazy cultural experiences. My favourite film is probably Jaws.

These two comments contradict themselves.

So I said how much I liked GoodFellas, pointing out different scenes and ways of ediiting and direction. You said that you don't like it because you're supposed to like it and you hate how frat boys don't do Joe Pesci impressions right, and it's too loooong. No offense, Nick, but you're not making much of an argument here.

And yes, I took more from After Hours than him being covered in paint at the end. It still featured Griffin Dunne and Tommy Chong in it, still had a basic "guy-gets-into-wild-wacky-situations" plot, and still had plain obvious metaphors like guys chasing twenty-dollar bills around and getting into trouble because of it. It's not the worst movie in the world, but Alex is the first person I've ever met who had such a hard-on for this movie. You're right, maybe if I was PP in NYC, I'd dig it more, but for me now, I can see why GoodFellas gets the DVD box treatment and After Hours is only played at eight in the morning on Cinemax.

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:36 (twenty years ago) link

(x-post)And thank god for that.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:38 (twenty years ago) link

uhh dude after hours just got the dvd treatment

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:38 (twenty years ago) link

(x-post to Sutherland scene DVD) dude you also have to have the Pesci scenes! AW MAN IT'S A RIDDLE WRAPPED IN A MYSTERY INSIDE AN ENIGMA, MAN!!!

all I ever wanted to be...was a catholic priest...

plus John Candy! YER AS CRAZY AS YO MAMA! GOES TO SHOW ITS IN THE GENES!

Joe Queenan has an essay where he talks about how the proof that Kevin Costner was on the wrong track was Joe Pesci's wig. Any conspiracy that was able to bump off a prez and get away with it would have stopped him and made him where a more believable fro.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:38 (twenty years ago) link

Also how can we have gone this long without mentioning The King of Comedy which is probably next to Goodfellas my favorite Scorcese film.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:39 (twenty years ago) link

mah fellow Donald Sutherland fans seriously need to see Klute and Invasion of the Body Snatchers if they haven't already. Plus Don't Look Now!

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:40 (twenty years ago) link

They need to make more gangster movies like Animal House

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:40 (twenty years ago) link

a very good movie (i think scorsese sees it as a failure though, maybe because it bombed) (xxp)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:41 (twenty years ago) link

sutherland in body snatchers is one of my favourite performances ever

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:41 (twenty years ago) link

uhh dude after hours just got the dvd treatment

Oh, a two-disc set with commentary from the cast, documentaries, and the like? I must've missed that, just like I missed it being nominated for Best Film of that year.

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:47 (twenty years ago) link

are you being sarcastic?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:48 (twenty years ago) link

oh sorry dude it only got the ONE-disc treatment, yeah it must be a total piece of shit

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:49 (twenty years ago) link

Dude people be some nasty bitches when discussing Scorsese films, I think you have all been watching too many Scorsese films

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:49 (twenty years ago) link

fuck you pay me

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:50 (twenty years ago) link

Because I'm a loudmouth who can't just sit on my opinion, but I think Scorcese seriously lost something after Taxi Driver (in the book Easy Rides, Raging Bulls they reveal he lost probably 3/4 of his blood stream thanks to cocaine -everyone needs to read this book, few books equally focus on the making of a film AND who the people were fucking) and never quite got it back since. Goodfellas is fun, and that short film Life Lessons in New York Stories is great, but from Raging Bull there's been too much of an overemphasis on style for my tastes. Haven't seen Bringing Out The Dead though or After Hours.

Haha where's the Kundun love???

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:50 (twenty years ago) link

mah fellow Donald Sutherland fans seriously need to see Klute and Invasion of the Body Snatchers if they haven't already. Plus Don't Look Now!

Fans of Donald Sutherland's ass should rent Don't Look Now first.

― Harold Media (kenan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:50 (twenty years ago) link

or Animal House!

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:50 (twenty years ago) link

Donald's Suthern land, hyuk hyuk

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:51 (twenty years ago) link

don't forget the dirty dozen.

― g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:51 (twenty years ago) link

it is true that after goodfellas scorsese went into a seriously depressing decline

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:51 (twenty years ago) link

I blame Age of Innocence!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:54 (twenty years ago) link

Name ONE jungle tune which sampled dialogue from that!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:54 (twenty years ago) link

Donald Sutherland's best performance - Kelly's Heroes.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:54 (twenty years ago) link

I like "Casino" a lot...if one can say "the ultimate Sharon Stone" role with a straight face, then say it...and I think De Niro is really, really good in "Casino" as well.

"Goodfellas" is a great movie about food...the mob stuff always seemed somewhat seconday. Paulie shaves the garlic with a razor blade, they had to cook the steaks in a pan, he used too much garlic in the sauce but it was still a good sauce. But yeah, as noted above, the problem with "Goodfellas" is Henry Hill. I think Liotta does a fine job--it's the basic idea. HH's supposed to be a kind of innocent here?

I also like "After Hours" fine, not a great Scorcese film but a good New York movie (which of course all Scorcese films are). Still, Scorcese has never topped "Mean Streets." "Raging Bull" is to me wayyyy overrated. "Gangs of New York" really sucked except for Day-Lewis, bad film of great book. "Taxi Driver" seems somewhat dated '70s film to me...I like the music, though, and it's certainly got its merits. The rest of Scorcese I pretty much dismiss. To me it's all about "Mean Streets," "GFs" and "Casino."

And I love Sutherland and the remake of "Invasion of Body Snatchers." One of the great yuppie-fear movies ever.

― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:55 (twenty years ago) link

HH's supposed to be a kind of innocent here?

No, he's supposed to be a criminal. He is, in fact, someone who's very passionate about being a criminal. You can have as much sympathy for that as you choose, but either way, his punishment is poetic.

― Harold Media (kenan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:58 (twenty years ago) link

yeah he's a really ambiguous character, i don't see what people are having trouble with here

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:01 (twenty years ago) link

perhaps we should familiarize ourselves with the concept of the "anti-hero"

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:01 (twenty years ago) link

you don't need to identify with him to think it's a great performance. he's not an innocent: but he's not a major player like pacino in scarface.

― ENRG (Enrique), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:04 (twenty years ago) link

i think the key to enjoying goodfellas is never talking about it with film geeks ever.

― amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:10 (twenty years ago) link

the key to enjoying most things is similar.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:11 (twenty years ago) link

the key is to just watch that scene where deniro is smoking at the bar and "sunshine of your love" is playing over and over again

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:11 (twenty years ago) link

duh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh

― amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:12 (twenty years ago) link

Ally wtf?! STING is in Dune ergo it is NOT good! Excellent camp value though, to be fair.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:12 (twenty years ago) link

do we really need ANOTHER rock album?

Depends on who by.

Once again....."Goodfellas" is a great, great movie, but it's the genre itself (mob/gangster movies) that's so damn tired.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:16 (twenty years ago) link

i think the key to enjoying goodfellas is never talking about it with film geeks ever.

I'm breaking your rule just by asking this, but what do you mean? Seems like it'll stand up to scrutiny as well as anything.

― Harold Media (kenan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:16 (twenty years ago) link

yeah but alex but but but

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:17 (twenty years ago) link

Rock album !!!= gangster movie, wtf?!

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:17 (twenty years ago) link

CAMP?

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:17 (twenty years ago) link

sure, it's just that you get caught in a neverending "omg it's the best film ever!"/"no it sucks" debate, where there appears to be no middle ground.

― amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:17 (twenty years ago) link

that was to kenan

― amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:18 (twenty years ago) link

have any of you people even SEEN Mean Streets? I can't believe nobody feels an urge to discuss that one.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:18 (twenty years ago) link

i still think he should've called mean streets season of the witch

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:18 (twenty years ago) link

you mook

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:19 (twenty years ago) link

that was to jimmybommy.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:19 (twenty years ago) link

Henry Hill is neither an innocent nor a monster - he's just this kind of mediocre gangster, an anti-hero as s1ocki points out, who after all the ultra-violence and glamor and drugs ends up as just this boring middle-class shlub in the 'burbs, which is probably the life he was best suited for all along.

― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:20 (twenty years ago) link

that was to anthony.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:20 (twenty years ago) link

I've seen "Mean Streets". It's not bad, but I think that "GoodFellas" improves on it in just about every way possible.

― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:21 (twenty years ago) link

Dune is camp as fuck, man! I'm not sure I have ever seen a more camp film! Kyle Machlachlanachlanchlanan plays a prince who's into condiments and STING is his fucking dad or something and it's directed by David Fucking Lynch and there's a giant worm thing and jesus HAVE YOU SEEN IT HAVE YOU SEEN THEIR CLOTHES???!!!

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:21 (twenty years ago) link

sure, it's just that you get caught in a neverending "omg it's the best film ever!"/"no it sucks" debate, where there appears to be no middle ground.

Ah ha. I guess I don't hang around geeky enough geeks -- I don't know anyone who thinks it sucks (for any halfway coherent reason, anyway).

― Harold Media (kenan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:21 (twenty years ago) link

HH isn't supposed to be a sympathetic character, he's just someone with an interesting story...He's a complete asshole, and an idiot, though, and did a lot of his work with people like him, dudes who didn't know the meaning of keeping a low profile. In no way portrayed as an innocent--he openly states his only goal in life ever was to become a criminal. (xpost someone else just said this)

And yeah, King of Comedy is fucking great! I think its one of my favorite ever performances by DeNiro.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:22 (twenty years ago) link

you know, I was kind of kidding, the first time I called you a fanny.

you really are a fanny.

this is to jimmybommy.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:23 (twenty years ago) link

I've seen "Mean Streets". It's not bad, but I think that "GoodFellas" improves on it in just about every way possible.

talk to the hand, cuz Anthony ain't listenin' no more.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:23 (twenty years ago) link

i don't think they're the same kind of movie

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:23 (twenty years ago) link

Arsed.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:24 (twenty years ago) link

just cuz harvey keitel isn't in GoodFellas?

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:25 (twenty years ago) link

exactly, yes.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:26 (twenty years ago) link

mean streets is a harvey keitel movie and goodfellas is not, thus there is absolutely no basis for comparison

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:26 (twenty years ago) link

also in general people have just talked abt this film too much, and very rarely is anything new said about it. for something somewhat new see the scorsese chapter in gilberto perez's the material ghost.

mean streets has some great moments, but a lot of it is kind of arrhythmic (not in a good way), the thematic material is presented kind of clumsily, and certain scenes really suffer from piss-poor post-synch sound.

― amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:26 (twenty years ago) link

One time a group of us went to go see Raging Bull in the Film Forum and the conversation the rest of the day was just like this:

Person A: (something completely innocuous about, like, pickles here)
Person B: What? You fuck my wife?!?!?!

it wasn't as funny the next day.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:27 (twenty years ago) link

the opening shots, with the "be my baby"-scored jump cut, are some kind of formal breakthrough though.

― amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:27 (twenty years ago) link

actually, I think that's pretty great, Ally. But I'm kind of used to quoting movies with friends for years.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:29 (twenty years ago) link

for some reason my friends and i are always re-enacting the "i got some nice new dresses for you" scene, i find it endlessly amusing

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:29 (twenty years ago) link

someone do the "funny how?", quick.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:30 (twenty years ago) link

I think I did the "funny how?" on that how well do you take compliments thread.

the "she's a tiger" and "take her for ice cream" scenes in Scarface have been referenced plenty any time I've been to a bar recently.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:32 (twenty years ago) link

RJG, YOU FUCK MY WIFE?@!?!?!

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:33 (twenty years ago) link

fuck how? like I was a clown?

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:33 (twenty years ago) link

i saw 5 minutes of "scarface" the other night while waiting for a video to rewind, which is as much as i've ever seen of it. what a strange film (if i saw a representative 5 minutes).

― amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:33 (twenty years ago) link

what did you see?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:34 (twenty years ago) link

I have never understood what's good about Pacino's Scarface.

― Harold Media (kenan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:35 (twenty years ago) link

what did you see?
-- s1ocki (slytus...), August 19th, 2004.

a few close-ups of al pacino with cake makeup, driving a car, talking in a funny accent, then he visits his mother and sister an continues talking in a funny accent but with fewer close-ups.

― amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:36 (twenty years ago) link

i like carlito's way better

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:36 (twenty years ago) link

you'd prefer his orgasm face.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:36 (twenty years ago) link

i love the VO in carlito's way: "so, here's me..."

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:37 (twenty years ago) link

i don't think they're the same kind of movie

I don't think MS really knows exactly what kind of movie it wants to be. It's kind of a loosely connected series of vignettes that attempt to sketch and pay quasi-nostalgic tribute to a half-remembered adolescent milieu. It's less cohesive than GF - perhaps it suffers from not being as explicitly autobiographical - there's no central figure with the ability to pull all the threads together. Plus the ending of MS is kind of boring and doesn't quite attain the tragic dimensions it would like to have.

― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:38 (twenty years ago) link

carlito's way was voted "best film of the 1990s" by cahiers du cinema!!

― amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:38 (twenty years ago) link

dear french people i love u

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:39 (twenty years ago) link

gros bizous monsieur s1ocki! i tip my beret to you!!!

― ze french people, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:41 (twenty years ago) link

mwah mwah

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:42 (twenty years ago) link

My, this thread is active.

scorsese should've directed the breakfast club!

It could have only improved that movie. Would Anthony Michael Hall been a killer or a victim?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:42 (twenty years ago) link

it would certainly make that scene where they're smoking pot and running around a lot more intense

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:43 (twenty years ago) link

And the eighties soundtrack is already in place!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:44 (twenty years ago) link

"Don't you EVER forget about me!" *fires gun*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:44 (twenty years ago) link

some friends of mine in college were talking a "topics in directorial approaches" class or something, and an assignment was to do a treatment of a "scorsese western." which seems to take auterism to a whole new asinine level, but the results were kind of interesting nonetheless.

― amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:45 (twenty years ago) link

I wholeheartedly recommend Joe Queenan's If You're Talking To Me, Your Career Must Be In Trouble and Confessions of a Cineplex Heckler to everyone here. Excerpts from the index should explain why.

"DeNiro
appropriate casting as character named Noodles, 76
first Spanish conquistador with Mott Street accent, 130-131
and Mickey Rourke, 72
and seal of confession, 58
and slime, 72
and slugs, 72
hair in Cape Fear resembling rat marinated in Vaseline, 148

Dunne, Griffin
traumatized by Joni Mitchell music, 142

Mastrantonio, Mary Elizabeth
influence of Pam Grier on, 38

Pacino, Al
trouble pronouncing the word "shit," 36

Scorcese, Martin
surprising ability to keep getting dates, 139"

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:45 (twenty years ago) link

poor scorsese, forever stereotyped on the basis of his gangster melodramas.

― amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:46 (twenty years ago) link

he only REALLY made one

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:47 (twenty years ago) link

Well, we could talk about Bringing Out the Dead if you like.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:48 (twenty years ago) link

can we not please?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:48 (twenty years ago) link

OMG that movie was so boring.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:49 (twenty years ago) link

From Mott Street, an unproduced Paul Schrader screenplay (acc. to Queenan):

A mook and a palook a are playing nine-ball for $1.69 a game in a dingy Little Italy social club. Suddenly a blonde named Carmella dressed all in white (camouflaging the semen on her skirt) gets out of a big yellow taxi and drops a rosary on the ground. As an aria from Donizetti wells up in the background, switch to an overhead shot of a wise guy firing five bullets, four of which miss, into the mook's neck, while three old men named Tommy holler "Yo, Mikey, whatsa matter with you?" The film now fades from color to black and white, save for the huge red neon light in the distance reading "JESUS SAVES."
"Hey Joey, didn't you used to be somebody?" the vamp asks the wounded man.
"No, that was my brother, Vinnie," he replies.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:50 (twenty years ago) link

there's a film that was quickly forgotten. i thought it had some good stuff in it, and some fucking horrible stuff, like self-parody bad.

― amateur!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:50 (twenty years ago) link

That was Nic Cage's attempt at penance for starring in Con Air, right?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:50 (twenty years ago) link

miccio these jokes are tired and dumb thx.

― amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:51 (twenty years ago) link

well, yeah, anybody who can earnestly say "poor Scorcese" would think that.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:52 (twenty years ago) link

dude it's a figure of speech

― amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:54 (twenty years ago) link

Casino is Scorsese's western!

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:57 (twenty years ago) link

and I loved Bringing Out the Dead =/

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:57 (twenty years ago) link

CON AIR IS BETTER THAN BRINGING OUT THE DEAD.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:02 (twenty years ago) link

THE ROCK

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:03 (twenty years ago) link

CON AIR IS BETTER THAN BRINGING OUT THE DEAD.

well there goes all desire to check THAT scorcese flick out

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:08 (twenty years ago) link

The Color of Money is my favorite Scorsese movie from the eighties. Paul Newman's wonderful, Tom Cruise makes the dumb punk role work for him, Forrest Whittaker is sublime in his cameo, and "It's In the Way That You Use It" is definitely one of the better songs that Eric Clapton did in that decade.

Some of you are starting to sound like Jimmy Two-Times, "Mean Streets is so camp, Mean Streets is so camp..."

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:08 (twenty years ago) link

scorsese

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:13 (twenty years ago) link

Pointing out typos on a message board is soooooooo camp, RJ.

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:29 (twenty years ago) link

I like Mean Streets, but more as an interesting warm up to what came later. It never occurred to me that people might think of it as some kind of masterpiece (I haven't seen it for years though, maybe I should).

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:34 (twenty years ago) link

It's not perfect, but no Scorcese film is. There's just more in it that I really like than in most of his stuff.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:35 (twenty years ago) link

goodfellas is my favorite gangster movie evah. i prefer it to any of the godfathers.

and it's definitely my favorite scorcese film.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:36 (twenty years ago) link

scorsese

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:36 (twenty years ago) link

The spelling of Scorsese's name is a bit weird when you look at it repeatedly. The repeated "se" at the end is kind of like a typographical stutter. Actually it reminds me of the "organizized" joke in Taxi Driver - in fact, is that line perhaps an oblique directorial self-reference?

― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:40 (twenty years ago) link

haha holy shit "scorsese". just looked it up. sonuva bitch

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:43 (twenty years ago) link

but who the hell really slices garlic that thin? spicey fucking meatball!

― kephm, Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:47 (twenty years ago) link

'Sympathetic characters'

yes.

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:47 (twenty years ago) link

I actively dislike Goodfellas and don't especially like Scorsese generally, though Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy are ok and the Jesus movie is interesting (and maybe I like his part of New York Stories - I don't remember - and I really like The Last Waltz, but that has more to do with the music and the cameramen). Would New York, New York be worth watching?

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:51 (twenty years ago) link

WAIT. I was right. I NEVER MAKE TYPOS ON THE INTERNET.

Scorsese, Scorsese, Scorsese.

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:54 (twenty years ago) link

who's camp, now?

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:56 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.juggling.org/movies/Pics/Jane_Austins_Mafia.jpg

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:07 (twenty years ago) link

New York, New York is really, really interesting but I can't say its actually successful.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:11 (twenty years ago) link

color of money is indeed pretty great

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:18 (twenty years ago) link

hey i gotta question, maybe someone can answer it. what's up with henry hill? he appears on the dvd, he was at the disc launch, he seems pretty much out and about these days--isn't there still a price on his head? is he still in the "program"? what's up with that?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:20 (twenty years ago) link

Bringing out the Dead is awesome. Or it was the one time I saw it. I should see it again! It felt fantastically claustrophobic and mood-driven, like Von Trier's Kingdom except moreso and less spooky. I totally identified with it.

Color of Money was good too, but didn't have the same d-d-damn impact on me.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:26 (twenty years ago) link

Color of Money is so pathetic compared to The Hustler that it just hurts me to think about it.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:27 (twenty years ago) link

It's not that bad! But it has no ending, which is pretty frustrating. What's the stylistic point in spending 20 minutes setting up a final pool showdown, and then not showing us the showdown? Newmanus interruptus.

― Harold Media (kenan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:28 (twenty years ago) link

s1ocki, I ask myself that question constantly. Tom summed it up for me as such that the program people can only do so much, if the dude wants to keep making an ass out of himself, they aren't going to go above and beyond to prevent him from doing so. As for him going ahead and doing it, that's just him, glamour-luvvin' dickhead.

OTOH I mean the facct that he is pretty famous now makes him kind of a bad target to go and whack because there will be so much publicity.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:30 (twenty years ago) link

yeah! but you figure maybe some low-level gangster would go ahead and do it for the status points or something. i mean i know he's allowed to do whatever he wants, my question is why hasn't anyone killed him yet?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:32 (twenty years ago) link

it's funnier to let him make a dick of himself on Howard Stern once a week?

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:33 (twenty years ago) link

he has a website!!

http://www.goodfellahenry.com/

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:33 (twenty years ago) link

Henry Hill is the author of The WISEGUY COOKBOOK, A GOODFELLA'S GUIDE TO NEW YORK, and GANGSTERS & GOODFELLAS.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:34 (twenty years ago) link

I like how the subtitle to the book the film was based on includes the phrase "Life on the Run". I think Henry is confused as to what that actually entails, ie not multiple books, film consulting, photos of yourself on the internet, and calling Howard Stern daily.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:35 (twenty years ago) link

I bet he owns a t-shirt that says "I'M HENRY HILL" on it.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:36 (twenty years ago) link

this guy REALLY shouldn't be too hard to track down

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:37 (twenty years ago) link

I think they just stopped caring, they probably all think the movie was awesome.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:39 (twenty years ago) link

I was going to say that, too. Goodfellas is part of ganster mythology now. And besides, didn't he send all his enemies to prison, anyway?

― Harold Media (kenan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:40 (twenty years ago) link

the real henry hill looks crap.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:42 (twenty years ago) link

Then he's an American hero, surely. (I admit hadn't heard about the cookbooks, though, he should get on Emeril and then he can arrange a little 'accident' involving Bobby Flay and a cooking knife.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:42 (twenty years ago) link

Scorsese should really make a sequel to Goodfellas. It's not like Hill hasn't provided the material.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:53 (twenty years ago) link

haha he puts words in his own mouth that were part of the film's screenplay!!!

o lord

― amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:00 (twenty years ago) link

Another Goodfellas? Goodfellas Forever? Goodfellas Returns? Goodfellas II: The Legend Of Pesci's Gold?

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:03 (twenty years ago) link

amateurist what do you mean? (a lot of the screenplay, especially the VOs, was taken straight from the book)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:04 (twenty years ago) link

oh and anthony the answer is obviously "betterfellas"

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:04 (twenty years ago) link

― amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:04 (twenty years ago) link

je m'excuse: nicotine withdrawal symptoms

― amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:05 (twenty years ago) link

oh shit are you quitting?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:05 (twenty years ago) link

I was surprised, recently, to see so many continuity things, esp in the karen giving henry food and drugs and stuff, in jail, scene.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:06 (twenty years ago) link

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:07 (twenty years ago) link

oh, just the angle changes and that they had given the kids coloured building blocks, to play with, which, of course, wouldn't be in the right places. I hadn't really noticed, before.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:09 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, yeah. The kids' blocks moving around and changing colors. Paulie's cigar does some weird things when the tiki bar guy has his sit-down about Tommy. The wine changes levels in the "Think I'm funny?" scene.

Even still...

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:11 (twenty years ago) link

I love the sit-down about tommy, too.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:11 (twenty years ago) link

Goodfellases

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:25 (twenty years ago) link

goodfellatio

― amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:25 (twenty years ago) link

Hahahahahahahahaha

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:29 (twenty years ago) link

Tom you should play that movie as the back drop when you get married.
-- Velveteen Bingo (formerlypoopsmcge...), August 19th, 2004 10:57 AM. (Chris V) (later)

Please, we already decided on Dune.
-- Allyzay Science Explosion (alk210...), August 19th, 2004 10:58 AM. (allyzay) (later)

awesome

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:46 (twenty years ago) link

WHAT IF SCORSESE HAD DIRECTED PORN?

"After Whores"
"The Last Penetration of Christ"
"Coprophaging Bull"
"Assino"
"Gangbangs of New York"
"KuMdun"
"Cape Queer"
"Creamed Sheets"

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:46 (twenty years ago) link

That is indeed. Dune seems to be handy for backdrops for things (I have one friend still insisting that a combination of Dune visuals and Dead Can Dance audio and LSD was the best high of her life, and really, who am I to gainsay her?)

"THE SLEEPER HAS AWAKENED!..."

"...and you may now kiss the bride."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:47 (twenty years ago) link

i was at one wedding where, during the cutting of the cake, the father of the groom intoned, "the slow blade penetrates the shield..."

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:48 (twenty years ago) link

WHAT IF SCORSESE HAD DIRECTED PORN?

"Even underwater, Murray's Lube never washes away!"

i was at one wedding where, during the cutting of the cake, the father of the groom intoned, "the slow blade penetrates the shield..."

You are shitting me. Somebody hire this man for voiceovers.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:49 (twenty years ago) link

dude was an ex-army colonel, too!

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:50 (twenty years ago) link

I know it's not done to laugh at one's own jokes, but I'm quite proud of myself for both "Coprophaging Bull" and "Creamed Sheets". Clearly, I've missed my calling.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:51 (twenty years ago) link

Amateur!!!st stole my joke (Goodfellas II: The Goodfellating!).

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:19 (twenty years ago) link

the big shave

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:37 (twenty years ago) link

Sharon Stone IS cocaine.

― sexyDancer, Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:01 (twenty years ago) link

she is fucking great in casino (my favourite scene: when she's talking to james woods on her wedding day and he's all "i'm looking at you...")

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:03 (twenty years ago) link

wait wait wait scorsese had a cocaine period? that's distressing. he's like the world's biggest film nerd.

when he first spots stone--that's a moment man.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 20 August 2004 02:42 (twenty years ago) link

amateurist i woulda figured for sure you'd read that easy riders raging bulls book

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 20 August 2004 02:47 (twenty years ago) link

Totally derailing here, but what the fuck's wrong with Gangs of New York? It's so big that whatever faults it may have are cancelled out by something truly great.

― Michael Stuchbery (Mikey Bidness), Friday, 20 August 2004 02:50 (twenty years ago) link

not enough pesci.

― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 02:53 (twenty years ago) link

too much cgi

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 20 August 2004 02:53 (twenty years ago) link

that thing shoulda been just broadbent and daylewis rockin it.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 20 August 2004 02:54 (twenty years ago) link

blount i'm not generally too interested in the whole "film brat" generation/70s hollywood stuff, i mean compared to other film stuff. also the book sounds kind of gossipy, which would probably make me mad. but you can try to convince me otherwise!

god daniel day lewis is the fucking BOMB (that movie sucked tho)

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 20 August 2004 02:55 (twenty years ago) link

He a had cocaine'n'Liza Minnelli period

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Friday, 20 August 2004 02:56 (twenty years ago) link

i met his daughter, now i feel bad for her if her dad had a fucking cocaine period when she was a small child.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 20 August 2004 02:58 (twenty years ago) link

haha i didn't actually read it (and i LOVE gossip)(i think part of me just though 'man i bet 80% of that book is about who margot kidder blew'), i rented the documentary tiein to it - cw101: excess (coke, egos) + success (lucas, spielberg) = end to 'auteur's era' in hollywood (gag). they followed peckinpah to the dreary end (instead of stopping with pat garrett which is how most people think), and didn't even bother to whisper 'cimino' once. 'salright, bob evans book better on both counts i'm sure.

scorsese's a total slut for girls who's dads he worshiped.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:00 (twenty years ago) link

Everyone in ERRB seemed like a big jerk.

I learned about Scorsese's coke period from the Warhol Diaries, read that instead, amateurist!

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:04 (twenty years ago) link

o god ditto to that - warhol diaries fantastic esp. all the 'basquiat didn't bathe again' stories.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:07 (twenty years ago) link

My copy is MISSING and I wanna read it so bad.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:08 (twenty years ago) link

Totally derailing here, but what the fuck's wrong with Gangs of New York? It's so big that whatever faults it may have are cancelled out by something truly great.

-- Michael Stuchbery (mikeybidnes...), August 20th, 2004 8:50 PM.

OTMFM!

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:10 (twenty years ago) link

one of the bars i go to has a copy and if i go there and noone i know is there (or sometimes even if they are) i'll sit at the bar and read it for hours. that's the sort of thing that's adorable if you're 18 but sad as fuck if you're 28.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:10 (twenty years ago) link

name three great scenes in gangs of new york that don't have daniel day-lewis in them

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:12 (twenty years ago) link

Even if the only great scenes were the ones with DDL you'd still have a kick ass movie considering he's onscreen as much (and possibly more?) than LD, but:

the opening march out to the battle, the final shot, and I liked the "Irish off the boat and into uniform" bit.

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:18 (twenty years ago) link

o man that last one's too corny for the history channel even

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:19 (twenty years ago) link

i should say that gony is one of my favoritest books ever so i'm possibly being one of those geeks

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:20 (twenty years ago) link

The movie is infinitely better when DDL shows up, which is often fortunately.

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:21 (twenty years ago) link

apparently this is "gony"

http://www.biol.tsukuba.ac.jp/~inouye/ino/d/gony.jpg

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:22 (twenty years ago) link

the seven points

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:25 (twenty years ago) link

do not befoul them with your roman popery

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:26 (twenty years ago) link

after hours was my favorite film ever in high school, I think I watched it about 20 times. I'm afraid I'd think it looked very dated these days and actively avoid it when I run across it on cable.

King of Comedy is very underrated!

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:27 (twenty years ago) link

after hours was my favorite film ever in high school, I think I watched it about 20 times. I'm afraid I'd think it looked very dated these days and actively avoid it when I run across it on cable.

The best works of Alfred Hitchcock look a bit dated now too --- does that mean they're any less brilliant?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:37 (twenty years ago) link

what hitchcock films look dated?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:48 (twenty years ago) link

actually i don't think looking dated is neccessarily a bad thing, in fact it is often a good thing

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:49 (twenty years ago) link

silent movies are so dated!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:49 (twenty years ago) link

anyway i just re-read easy riders raging bulls, god is that ever a fun book to read. you can read in a weekend, easy. lots of fun and many hilarious embarrassing spielberg stories.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:49 (twenty years ago) link

also as much as i rep for goodfellas i think gangs of new york may be the worst fucking movie i have ever seen

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:50 (twenty years ago) link

what hitchcock films look dated?

actually i don't think looking dated is neccessarily a bad thing, in fact it is often a good thing

I would kill to have that mad 60's pad from Rope. Or any of the cars in Vertigo. Or a Farley Granger suit from Strangers on a Train. Dated? No. Crazy crazy stylish.

― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:53 (twenty years ago) link

i want the apartment from rear window if you know what i mean homina homina homina

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:54 (twenty years ago) link

Dated = this bloody embarassment of a haircut:

http://acpin.homestead.com/files/Luke_SKywalker.jpg

― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:56 (twenty years ago) link

You want to watch Raymond Burr disrobe. xp

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:57 (twenty years ago) link

no you do

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:57 (twenty years ago) link

"he who smelt it dealt it" - henry iv part i

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:58 (twenty years ago) link

Oh! Miss Torso!

― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:58 (twenty years ago) link

And as far as elegant furnishings go, it doesn't get better than Grace Kelley.

― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:00 (twenty years ago) link

Dated = this bloody embarassment of a haircut:

Well, be fair: it was a long, long time ago in a galaxie far, far away.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:01 (twenty years ago) link

here's some wank material for you

http://www.gonemovies.com/WWW/WanadooFilms/Thriller/RearKiller1.jpg

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:01 (twenty years ago) link

I think the only things in the world that are truly dated are codpieces and formal hats.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:18 (twenty years ago) link

I mean I see that Luke Skywalker haircut like hundreds of times a day.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:18 (twenty years ago) link

Ha wait I was wrong they are coming back in THE FUTURE.

http://www.animalactors.co.uk/artman/uploads/a_clockwork_orange_large.jpg

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:20 (twenty years ago) link

Skywalker, I see dudes like him every day in Echo Park.

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:29 (twenty years ago) link

ERRB is surprisingly good - snotty and trashy, but enormously compelling even if you have little interest in the era or the mythologizing (like me).

I lurrrrrrved GONY when it came out, but after shelling out for the DVD I realized what a turd it was without the visceral theater experience. Daniel day-lewis was totally fucking electric and hilarious though (deniro really couldn't have pulled that off) and his moustache still dangles in my mind like the sword of damocles. He should be in EVERY MOVIE :(

― Ade (Adrian Langston), Friday, 20 August 2004 22:41 (twenty years ago) link

Man, ERRB....I don't care who Spielberg fucked or how needy Scorsese was, it was just such a reductive piece of shit.

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 23:20 (twenty years ago) link

xxxxxxpost
i met his daughter, now i feel bad for her if her dad had a fucking cocaine period when she was a small child.

ERRB made me feel bad for Roman/Sofia Coppola, Francis comes off like an unreal dick for the last 3/4.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 20 August 2004 23:25 (twenty years ago) link

that's why I don't like that book, it doesn't hit on much other than the scandalous shit and it doesn't provide much of an interesting context for their work nor does it discuss anything about the directors as artists. What's the point?

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 23:37 (twenty years ago) link

if you don't see the point in juicy gossip i can't help you

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 21 August 2004 15:51 (twenty years ago) link

I spent a good three hours with the After Hours DVD last night, and was a little disappointed in the commentary. I was so excited about it, too -- "OMG I could listen to Marty talk all day long!" -- but it's not like that. It's "scene specific commentary," meaning that the movie skips from one scene to another while the commentary plays. Also, few details are given about the specific scenes that are playing. Marty just kind of gives a little history of the film, and, you know, there are books that do that already. Also, the DP does almost all of the talking. This is not without interest, but it's not what I wanted.

That said, the movie is great. I'd forgotten how unsympathetic the Griffin Dunne character is. He's not just some lonely schmuck who has bad luck, he's a lecherous bore who sets out to get laid, and would just as soon fuck the roommate as the girl he came to see. He only becomes sympathetic after his situation becomes *impossible*.

Question: what's with the Wizard of Oz shit? Is there anything to the fact that all the women he meets wear yellow, or that he just wants to go home?

Today: Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore and all the new Goodfellas stuff. I'm a little less optimistic about the commentary than I was when I started.

― Harold Media (kenan), Saturday, 28 August 2004 15:26 (twenty years ago) link

Good thing I have this rented for two days. No way I can watch the extras immediately after watching the movie. It's such a fucking knockout. I need a rest.

― Harold Media (kenan), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:15 (twenty years ago) link

The 'film school' program on the Who's That Knocking... DVD sounds interesting.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:36 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...

i finally got around to watching the cast & crew commentary... so interesting and entertaining!

the "cop and crook" one however is a little zzzz. lots of awkward silences and throat-clearings.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 01:46 (nineteen years ago) link

i like it better than the godfather.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 02:48 (nineteen years ago) link

people who hate goodfellas need to be punched in the cock.

― strng hlkngtn: what does it mean? (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 02:54 (nineteen years ago) link

repeatedly.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 07:59 (nineteen years ago) link

with both fists

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Would that amuse you?

― Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:06 (nineteen years ago) link

i think it's better than the godfather too... i think it might be the PERFECT MOVIE.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link

It would be perfect except for the mildly distracting aging problem. It's still amazing though. I might like The Godfather just a shade better, but that's not a slight on Goodfellas.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:09 (nineteen years ago) link

i wish i could have an opinion on the godfather but ive tried to watch it several times and i cannot for the life of me understand a word marlon brando is saying. its very frustrating and it makes me feel deaf.

ive been trying to push the sopranos on to pleasant plains for sometime now. since weve watch seasons 1-4 of curb your enthusiasm we need another show to compliment our twice weekly homestyle bake dinners. goodfellas is his favorite movie. does loving goodfellas = loving the sopranos?

― sunny successor (he hates my guts, we had a fight) (katharine), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link

punch me in the cock, guys!!

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:45 (nineteen years ago) link

well I don't hate it, I just have no desire to ever see it again.

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:46 (nineteen years ago) link

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I think it might be the perfect movie.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 01:03 (nineteen years ago) link

I want it to be the perfect movie, but Alex is right about the aging.

― I was CRYING when Magin Johnson did donuts in a magical AIDS thrfit store (dr g), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 01:14 (nineteen years ago) link

How did it age? During which part would a viewer say, "Oh, that is so 1990..."?

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 03:06 (nineteen years ago) link

the aging of the characters

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 03:11 (nineteen years ago) link

it hasn't aged, and neither did Ray Liotta in the film!

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 03:13 (nineteen years ago) link

And DeNiro looked the same at 20 as he did at 50. He was born a 50-year old man, like Will Ferrell in that one skit.

But I don't care.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 03:15 (nineteen years ago) link

I thought DeNiro's aging was okay for the most part, Liotta didn't age as much as he started to sweat more over time. but a perfect film nonetheless.

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 03:17 (nineteen years ago) link

What, Joe Pesci as a twenty-year old out front of the burning Tiki club didn't convince anyone?

Okay. I see where you all are coming from.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 03:43 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't really care about the aging... at least i don't think it detracts from the movie. in a way it sort of works, makes it almost more like a play

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 06:00 (nineteen years ago) link

...or not? i'm not sure, i'm struggling to articulate this, but it's just this non-realistic element that somehow just sits fine with me. almost like the movie exists in henry's memory, where everyone always looks the way you remember them

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 06:02 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, i don't really care about the age thing, i'm always surprised when ppl say it detracts. i mean jimmy stewart is like 30 years too old for his part in the man who shot liberty valance, and it doesn't bother me at all.

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:08 (nineteen years ago) link

A lot of those guys has such intense early adulthoods that they may have looked 45 at 30.

Say what you will about Sorvino's gray dye, but the actors all did a champ job of acting old. Liotta convinced me of being a wild-eyed young punk to being a middle-aged tired coke addict.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:11 (nineteen years ago) link

i love the scene where they go to Pesci's mothers house to get a knife and she cooks them all dinner and Pesci describes his mothers painting. "this guy says...waddya want from me." If no one knew, thats Scorceses mother in that scene.

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Everyone knew.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:20 (nineteen years ago) link

She's really funny. She does a great job in Casino too.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:21 (nineteen years ago) link

i figured as much.

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:21 (nineteen years ago) link

his mother??? wow :D

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:22 (nineteen years ago) link

one dog's facing one way, the other's facing the other way

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link

and this guy's saying, "What do you want from me?"

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:54 (nineteen years ago) link

almost like the movie exists in henry's memory

This is OTM, I mean isn't that pretty much the explicit playout at the ending?

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link

"content to be a jerk" is kinda my life philosophy

― strng hlkngtn: what does it mean? (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 18:14 (nineteen years ago) link

http://imdb.com/title/tt0101243/

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 18:15 (nineteen years ago) link

funny how misquoting can sound wrong, I thought it was more like:

one dog goes one way, the other dog goes the other way and the guy in the middle's saying "what do you want from me?"

google says:

Tommy DeVito : Oh I like this one... One dog goes one way, the other dog goes the other way, and this guy's sayin', 'Whadda ya want from me?'

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 18:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Was the guy in the middle? I thought both dogs were at the front of the boat, but you know what? I DON'T HAVE A PHOTOGRAPHIC MEMORY.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 18:21 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, I just thought "it wasn't at such a steep angle, they must have been in front"

I haven't seen the movie in a good four or five years

it was a painting, btw, not a photograph

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 18:23 (nineteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Yes it does. Especially when you see Christopher shoot someone in the foot.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Goodfellas is great, but am I the only one that thinks the "You think I'm funny?" scene would have worked a thousand times better if the stuff Pesci says beforehand was genuinely laugh-out-loud funny?

Watching Casino on network TV is insane. I didn't know you could say "sand nigger" on regular TV and get away with it. "FREAK YOU, SAM ROTHSTEIN!! FREAK YOU!!"

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 6 April 2006 03:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I love Goodfellas, saw The Sopranos once and don't feel like I'm missing much.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 April 2006 19:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Also re 'convincing' 'aging' in The Godfather -- HEY, 47-y.o. Marlon Brando, YOU GOT KLEENEX IN YER CHEEKS!

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 April 2006 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link

WRONG

Marlon Brando wanted to make Don Corleone look "like a bulldog", so he stuffed his cheeks with cotton wool for the screen test. For actual filming, he wore an appliance made by a dentist. [...] Brando's mouthpiece is on display in the American Museum of the Moving Image in Queens, New York.

― fez, Thursday, 6 April 2006 20:10 (eighteen years ago) link

sopranos is great, fuck.

― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Friday, 7 April 2006 07:26 (eighteen years ago) link

what is pesci *ON ABOUT* in that scene pre the funny speech? i mean, what the...

― piscesboy, Friday, 7 April 2006 10:49 (eighteen years ago) link

he gets busted by the cops, they're like, why are you out here in the marshes or some shit (he's been whacking someone? as in 'the godfather'?), and he manages to get a night in the cells by being a wiseguy with them.

― 25 yr old slacker cokehead (Enrique), Friday, 7 April 2006 10:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I was looking for the dialogue for that scene and my colleague just caught me googling "go fuck your mother" :-/

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 7 April 2006 11:04 (eighteen years ago) link

that reminds me, Taxi Driver is on More4 tonight.

Goodfellas is amazing, I've never been able to get into Sopranos. Everytime I tried to watch it all I got were scenes with Tony talking to a Phsyciatrist. zzz..

― Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 7 April 2006 12:23 (eighteen years ago) link

HEY PINEFOX
GO GET UR SHINEBOX

― teh_kit says 'dont fight u nubs just run in teh instance!' (g-kit), Friday, 7 April 2006 12:25 (eighteen years ago) link

hah, I made ref to the Brando appliance at AMMI in another thread yesterday! Lookin at it, I gotta believe he stuck something else in there.

A former co-worker saw one of the Reel One kids from the movie on the subway once, and when he exclaimed "You're that kid from Goodfellas!" the yute said "Hiya, Hendry."

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 April 2006 12:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Is it the marshes story that he tells at the dinner table? Which story is it that Tommy tells at the poker table when Jimmy decides not to go through with whacking the Rug King?

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 7 April 2006 15:56 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...

TOMMY (as everyone laughs): I pulled out his hair. I bit him. He's out cold. I'm enraged. I wanted to kill this little fuck. We start to go in this joint. I don't want to turn around. Jimmy's doing this to me. I don't want to turn around. I don't want to turn around. He picks up his fucking head, he says, "Ah..."
I said, "Don't say it!"
"Jerkoff!"
What are you going to do? What? I fly at him. I got him and I'm banging his head, banging his face. I'm pulling his hair out of his head. I bit him to a pulp. To a pulp I beat him. He's laying there full of blood. I'm out of breath.

JIMMY (laughs, turns to Henry): Forget about tonight.

― gear (gear), Friday, 11 August 2006 21:49 (eighteen years ago) link

i like this more than 'casino' now. but it's close!

― gear (gear), Friday, 11 August 2006 21:50 (eighteen years ago) link

if casino didn't fall to pieces around the third act there'd be some competition but otherwise i don't think it comes close.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 11 August 2006 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link

i was surprised to see how many sopranos faces are around the edges of this film, beyond the obvious like imperioli.

― gear (gear), Friday, 11 August 2006 22:10 (eighteen years ago) link

i know right? that reminds me of the first time i saw g'father 2 post-sopranos and i realized that uncle junior was JOHNNY OLA!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 11 August 2006 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link

and vincent gallo is in 'goodfellas'! i don't remember where, though.

― gear (gear), Friday, 11 August 2006 22:15 (eighteen years ago) link

if casino didn't fall to pieces around the third act there'd be some competition but otherwise i don't think it comes close.

NABSICOTM

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Friday, 11 August 2006 22:19 (eighteen years ago) link

gallo is??

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 11 August 2006 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link

one dog's facing one way, the other's facing the other way

-- s1ocki (slytus...), October 12th, 2005 2:33 PM. (slutsky)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 11 August 2006 22:27 (eighteen years ago) link

ahhhhh i love this movie so much.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 11 August 2006 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link

i went to the gallo imdb message board and found this:

You can see Vincent with very short cropped hair in about two different bar scenes during the 70's sequence. You can see him clearly in one scene playing cards in the background when Henry Hill (Liotta) takes Morrie the wig guy in the back to calm him down about asking for his share of the Luftansa heist. The scene where Liotta pushes the door open and tells him to go ahead and tell Jimmy to give him his share. There's another scene, a quick one, in the same bar a little earlier but I forget. Anyway, there he is.

― gear (gear), Friday, 11 August 2006 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link

"don't buy wigs that come off at the wrong time!"

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 11 August 2006 22:36 (eighteen years ago) link

i was gonna ask if you liked 'the aviator', but then i saw your thread

― gear (gear), Friday, 11 August 2006 22:41 (eighteen years ago) link

i was surprised to see how many sopranos faces are around the edges of this film, beyond the obvious like imperioli.

Let's see, who am I leaving out...?

CHRISTOPHER- Spider
DR. MELFI- Karen
PAULIE- Guy who sticks postman's head into pizza oven.
BIG PUSSY- Guy who pushes rack of furs even though it's the middle of summer.
LARRY BOY- But it's seven g's, Tommy.
FURTADO- Billy Batts

That's still a lot.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Saturday, 12 August 2006 05:23 (eighteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

http://s72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/fluxion23/?action=view¤t=goodfellas_explody.jpg

One day the kids from the neighborhood carried my mother's groceries all the way home. You know why? It was outta respect.

― kenan, Monday, 2 July 2007 04:52 (seventeen years ago) link

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/fluxion23/goodfellas_explody.jpg

― kenan, Monday, 2 July 2007 04:53 (seventeen years ago) link

"I gotta go to tha bathroom go to tha bathroom"

― Ste, Monday, 2 July 2007 13:57 (seventeen years ago) link

sorry my mistake

"get the papers get the papers"

― Ste, Monday, 2 July 2007 13:57 (seventeen years ago) link

RUINED

― Ste, Monday, 2 July 2007 13:57 (seventeen years ago) link

one dog's facing one way, the other's facing the other way

-- s1ocki (slytus...), October 12th, 2005 2:33 PM. (slutsky)

^^^^ qft

― strongohulkington, Monday, 2 July 2007 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link

the scene at dinner - scorsese's ma had one line of dialogue 'did i ever show you my painting' and the rest was improv. tru movie fact.

― pisces, Monday, 2 July 2007 14:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Where's the address to petition Scorsese to make a film about Johnny Two Times?

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 2 July 2007 14:16 (seventeen years ago) link

^^^ qft

― strongohulkington, Monday, 2 July 2007 14:16 (seventeen years ago) link

what is 'qft' ?

― Ste, Monday, 2 July 2007 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link

quack fish tiger

― strongohulkington, Monday, 2 July 2007 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link

it's latin

― kenan, Monday, 2 July 2007 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

for OTM?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 2 July 2007 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

five months pass...

one dog's facing one way, the other's facing the other way
-- s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:33 (2 years ago) Bookmark Link

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and this guy's saying, "What do you want from me?"
-- Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:54 (2 years ago) Bookmark Link

^^^^best scene in any movie ever

― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 11:32 (seventeen years ago) link

That scene makes me laugh every time I see it. Last night must've been about the 20th time.

― nate woolls, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 11:35 (seventeen years ago) link

totally agree, was it scripted? seems improvised.

― Ste, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 11:38 (seventeen years ago) link

De Niro saying "Hoof?" gets me every time.

― nate woolls, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 11:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Now I got "Jump Into the Fire" in my head now.

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/277/goodfellaspaintingbw4.jpg

― Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Thread's gone on this long and no mention yet of the head-in-vise scene in Casino? Good God that scene is FRIGHTENING. I literally had nightmares for weeks after I saw that.

And then of course Scorsese totally blows the rest of the movie. Look DeNiro, nobody cares about your stupid attempt to get a gambling license or your marriage troubles. Just give us guns, blood, and bodies getting thrown into cornfields.

― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 04:53 (seventeen years ago) link

that's because it's a goodfellas thread, genius

― s1ocki, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 04:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, but they're both pretty much the same damn movie.

― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 05:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Mr. Snrub rides again

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 05:09 (seventeen years ago) link

De Niro saying "Hoof?" gets me every time.

-- nate woolls, Tuesday, December 4, 2007 11:42 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
OTM x 1000000

― latebloomer, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 06:46 (seventeen years ago) link

best movie ever

― latebloomer, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 06:48 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm tellin ya.

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 09:28 (seventeen years ago) link

there may be better movies out but if i see this movie on anywhere i will always watch it.

― carne asada, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

totally agree, was it scripted? seems improvised.

-- Ste, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 11:38 (Yesterday)

the scene at dinner - scorsese's ma had one line of dialogue 'did i ever show you my painting' and the rest was improv. tru movie fact.

-- pisces, Monday, 2 July 2007 14:13 (5 months ago)

― pisces, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

wasn't bob's mother a painter?

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

you cant really fuck with this movie

― chaki, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I was watching the edited for TV version of this on A&E this weekend, it was hilarious to see the "revised" Joe Pesci dialogue.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

"see" = "hear"

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

i dunno if it's deliberate, but during the godhead 'jump into the fire', there's a bit where his bro makes henry get himself checked out in hospital, and a doctor says "come on, let me check you out", and nilsson just then says "you can shake me up". uh anyway it sounds like "you can check me out". that sounds kind of gay, but i just wanted to emphasize how awesome that sequence is really.

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't hear the intro to "What is Life" now without looking up for helicopters.

― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 23:48 (seventeen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

"A salute (finishes drink). Now go home and get your fucking shinebox."
"MOTHERFUCKER"

― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 10:28 (sixteen years ago) link

"Ah now, you insulted him a little bit"

― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 10:29 (sixteen years ago) link

ya feel strong?

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 10:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I didn't want to get blood on your floor

― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 10:40 (sixteen years ago) link

knowing joe pesci and frank vincent's background just makes that scene even awesomer.

― s1ocki, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://content.ytmnd.com/content/5/f/d/5fd00e6fa2e12d746ce38e3259ba60bc.gif

― s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 16:52 (sixteen years ago) link

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7006/deniro2jc1.gif

― s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 17:13 (sixteen years ago) link

WAAAAY DOWN BELOW THE OCEAN...

― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 17 January 2008 17:18 (sixteen years ago) link

http://content.ytmnd.com/content/8/5/3/85315e22683d42d91c524ecacc928ea8.gif

― s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 17:56 (sixteen years ago) link

was waiting for something like that!

― gff, Thursday, 17 January 2008 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link

WOOT! WOOT!

― kenan, Thursday, 17 January 2008 18:12 (sixteen years ago) link

to the tune of "Smack my Bitch Up" by Prodigy

― kenan, Thursday, 17 January 2008 18:15 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.davidchoe.com/oil/images/2%20dogs.jpg

― and what, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 12:15 (sixteen years ago) link

"What am I, a schmuck on wheels?"

― Pleasant Plains, Friday, 8 February 2008 20:26 (sixteen years ago) link

and what what is that

― gff, Friday, 8 February 2008 20:30 (sixteen years ago) link

one dog's facing one way, the other's facing the other way. and this guy's saying, "what do you want from me?"

― and what, Friday, 8 February 2008 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link

is Donovan really this much of a tw*t?

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 8 February 2008 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Watch it again. Ascend from the viscuous mudslick of sickly, abject wrongness you're currently slopping around in like giddy dungbeatles.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, August 18, 2004 7:15 PM (4 years ago)

― (*ﾟーﾟ)θ L(。･＿･)　　　°~ヾ(･ε･ *) (Steve Shasta), Monday, 26 January 2009 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Business been bad?

― •--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 26 January 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link

FUCK YOU.

― •--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 26 January 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link

PAY ME.

― •--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 26 January 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, you had a fire?

― •--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 26 January 2009 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link

FUCK YOU,

― •--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 26 January 2009 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link

PAY ME

― •--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 26 January 2009 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Place got struck by lightening?

― •--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 26 January 2009 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link

IM SORRY FOR YOUR LESS. YOU DONT HAVE TO PAY ME.

― s1ocki, Monday, 26 January 2009 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link

i mean loss.

― s1ocki, Monday, 26 January 2009 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I love how I wrote "dungbeatles" as opposed to dungbEEtles.

― Alex in NYC, Monday, 26 January 2009 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Yea, you know its bad when the drugged out rat that the film 'Good-fellows' was about 'drops in' at the Northridge mall looking to score some drugs.

This guy is about 80 and a mess.

Somehow he had heard of the 'great prices on pills this summer at the mall' and decided to check it out?

He is not in hiding or on the 'lam' or whatever and was just on Howard Stern and a bunch of other stuff so he doesn't care. Lives in Topanga or Malibu.

About Two weeks ago, I guess he was wandering around drunk or high looking for some more drugs by the Pacific Movie Theaters on Friday night. This guy is not the sort of guy you want your kids around. I am not saying that he is a giant perv or something, but is this the guy you want your kids to talk to for the next Four hours?

Yea, that's pretty bad when the drugged out guy that ratted on an entire crime family decides to venture to your nice little mall and try to get some drugs.

Is it time to stop dropping of your kids for guys like Henry to play with?

I wonder when parents will get it.

How did he hear about the drug trade being sooo great at the mall when he is all the way in Malibu?

It's hard to think that a guy that old would do 'X,' but you never know.

Maybe he was here for the teen prostitution trade in front of the Theatres? I don't think he would be 'up' for it.

Someone said he just heard it was a cool scene and that kind of makes sense.

If he is in Malibu, going anywhere near Hollywood would take hours. Beyond that, no one in Malibu will sell drugs to him because they know he is an idiot and the prices have shot way up because of all the drug wars in Mexico. Most of the drugs that are on the coast come from Mexico through the sea. Makes sense huh?

But something is going on in Northridge were either they are making it in Canoga Park or with the closure of so many medical places in Northridge, they are raiding them and getting tons of pills. As far as the 'X,' it may be easier now to just make it in the hills or wherever than getting it from the war torn Mexico.

I am not sure, but I am sure that soo many people know about the prostitution and drug trade at the Northridge Mall that stoned idiots like Henry are bound to avoid all the traffic and high prices of Hollywood and come over the hill to watch all the little kids run around and take pills, trade sex for drugs and create one of the greatest places I have ever seen to hide drug deals at a Mall.

In fact, I am surprised that there have not been more sightings of old waste cases like Henry. But then, who would be able to tell? There are no parents or even anyone over 14!

That's great, now we have the lowest of the low cavorting with your daughters simply because you cant stop dropping off your kids to create an environment ripe for drugs and the periodic Mafia rat.

You know Northridge has gone down to tubes and the parents have really stopped caring when Henry Hill shows up and wants to buy pills from your daughters friends.

― spiritual giant Cubby Culbertson (omar little), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 00:37 (fifteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

http://perfectcirclecoffee.com/goodfellas/main_page.html

― NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Sunday, 16 May 2010 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://grab.by/grabs/2c9e549614f05cf8b6fec611c89d0af8.png

― NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Thursday, 3 June 2010 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link

http://grab.by/grabs/fea891872341792e52bd9efa0ca9d0aa.png

― NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Thursday, 3 June 2010 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RyqtrGnicc&feature=PlayList&p=A6CDF4843090AE19&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=23

― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Thursday, 3 June 2010 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

http://www.gq.com/entertainment/movies-and-tv/201010/goodfellas-making-of-behind-the-scenes-interview-scorsese-deniro

― the milagro-beanfield war criminal (s1ocki), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 15:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Liotta: For the scene at Tommy's mother's house, I don't think Marty gave his mom a script. I remember Joe saying, "Mom, I need this knife. We hit a deer, we got to cut off its—" and he can't remember it, and Bob jumps in as he's eating "—hoof." There was a lot of improv. And then they're talking about the guy [with the dogs] in the painting. Joe says, "One dog goes one way, and the other dog goes the other way. And this guy's saying, What do you want from me?" I don't know where the fuck that came from. To this day, it's really funny.

― ('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link

ray liotta otm

― the milagro-beanfield war criminal (s1ocki), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link

not otm:

De Fina: The previews were scary. By the time Spider gets killed, the audience would get angry. The audience wanted to go back to having fun. The movie was taking them someplace they weren't sure they wanted to go. A lot of people didn't like the part when he was on drugs; it would agitate them. At one point, we wound up hiding in a bowling alley because the audience was so angry. One guy wrote FUCK YOU all over the comment card.

― ('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link

One guy wrote FUCK YOU PAY ME all over the comment card.

― the milagro-beanfield war criminal (s1ocki), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link

sounds like the audience was a lot like Pauline Kael

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link

what i love about that scene w/tommy's mom is how they're all "hey looks like someone we know, lol!" like a couple of kids would do in front of a mom, like being clever and talking in a roundabout way in front of her about something they don't really want to tell her about.

― ('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Pesci and Scorsese's mom telling the joke about the quiet man and then explaining how it sounds better in Italian is one of the most authentic moments.

And if you had tried to get me to guess which 90s movie almost had Tom Cruise and John Malkovich starring in the lead roles, I would have never guessed this one.

― http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.new-video.de/co/mygiant.jpg

Tom decided it was a little too Rain Man

― da croupier, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link

titanic

― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link

funk love this movie

― dayo, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Frank Vincent (Billy Batts): Wherever I go, anytime I go anywhere, they tell me to go home and get my shine box.

― the milagro-beanfield war criminal (s1ocki), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link

fukken obv

― dayo, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link

xp to myself

― dayo, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:12 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm stirrin', i'm stirrin'

― banaka, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

We think of that line in this film as a silent protest.

― banaka, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link

which character in goodfellas does banaka most identify with

― E-Mil Cioran (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link

The tone of Michael Corrigan's delivery in that scene conveys a deep dissatisfaction with the Way Things Are. Gangsters are merely capitalists in the truest sense: atavistic, cancerous, deadly. Only serving their sociopathic interest in self-gratification. No sense of a greater cause, save compulsory fealty towards superiors.

― banaka, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Man it's sooo cool you took a college class one time

― "SEX" drought, 2 wisks (zorn_bond.mp3), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link

We reject capitalistic higher education. We choose to embrace discipline instead.

― banaka, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Apologies, we erred: it was Kevin Corrigan, not Michael Corrigan who played Ray Liotta's brother. Not that names are important. Names will be obsolete when New Society is achieved.

― banaka, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link

lols

John Malkovich (actor): It sort of came at a bad time in my life, when I wasn't feeling well and didn't want to think about working. It's hard to explain why you end up in Eragon and not GoodFellas. But De Niro is fantastic

― No Good, Scrunty-Looking, Narf Herder (Gukbe), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Eragon features impressive computer generated imagery, while Goodfellas does not. Malkovich should be proud to be associated with a technical achievement that represents a mastery over nature, and not just a formal or "artistic" achievement.

― banaka, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

malkovich would have been terrible in this

unthinkable

― no one was protesting when this happened to (history mayne), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm stirrin', i'm stirrin'

― banaka, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:33 (33 minutes ago) Permalink

We think of that line in this film as a silent protest.

― banaka, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:35 (31 minutes ago)

the time it takes someone to realize they accidentally posted under a sock acct?

― da croupier, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:08 (fourteen years ago) link

haha

― the milagro-beanfield war criminal (s1ocki), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link

2 minutes of sheer panic

― the milagro-beanfield war criminal (s1ocki), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link

― E-Mil Cioran (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Malkovich should be proud to be associated with a technical achievement that represents a mastery over nature

has yet to master technical achievement of multiple log-ins/browsers

― buzza, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:22 (fourteen years ago) link

lol lol

― "SEX" drought, 2 wisks (zorn_bond.mp3), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:22 (fourteen years ago) link

A TV series!

― No Good, Scrunty-Looking, Narf Herder (Gukbe), Thursday, 23 September 2010 03:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Please, no...I guess they'd back up to a point in time before nine-tenths of the principals got whacked? Maybe it'd be worth it for a whole episode centred around Chuck Low's character. I love how he says things like "unconscionable" and "most unreasonable." He could be like the Niles Crane of mob dramas.

― clemenza, Thursday, 23 September 2010 03:55 (fourteen years ago) link

teh fuck?

― the milagro-beanfield war criminal (s1ocki), Thursday, 23 September 2010 04:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe they can call the TV show "WISE GUY".

― http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:40 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.salon.com/entertainment/movies/film_salon/2010/09/27/_goodfellas_on_trial/index.html

MZS schools this other dude pretty handily.

― ('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 01:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Seitz's rhetoric is stronger but I'm slightly in Grey's camp (and so is Pauline Kael). I still like the film a lot while acknowledging it's fucked up. Fuggedit, Jake -- it's the movies.

― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 01:22 (fourteen years ago) link

It's a great fucking gangster movie -- better than the Godfathers -- bcz, as reflected in a Jimmy Breslin quote I recently encountered, it doesn't deny that the Mob is about grade-school dropouts killing each other, instead of that phony romanticized shit.

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 01:44 (fourteen years ago) link

wondering where this fits in to yr 'ride' based critique of scorseses later work

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 01:49 (fourteen years ago) link

this is the first time I have ever seen morbz lavish praise upon a critically acclaimed movie on ILX

― tumlbrah (dayo), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 01:50 (fourteen years ago) link

icey, it has brains and good acting, so there's no comparison.

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 01:51 (fourteen years ago) link

and yet u must admit its very 'ridey'

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 01:52 (fourteen years ago) link

dayo, that's bullshit. My favorite film of the '00s was Mulholland Dr.

(critically acclaimed)

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 01:53 (fourteen years ago) link

no. a "ride" doesn't have a script. xp

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 01:53 (fourteen years ago) link

to clarify morbz, this is the first time I have seen you actually explain what you like about a movie in a positive way

― tumlbrah (dayo), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 01:54 (fourteen years ago) link

what negative ways have i used before?

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 02:01 (fourteen years ago) link

do the godfathers really deny that the mob is about grade school dropouts killing each other? It's not like everyone's Michael in those films.

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 03:03 (fourteen years ago) link

to clarify morbz, this is the first time I have seen you actually explain what you like about a movie in a positive way

Read one Spielberg thread.

― Eric H., Wednesday, 29 September 2010 03:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Since when is saying "at least it isn't romanticized phony shit" positive in the first place?

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 03:13 (fourteen years ago) link

cuz it speaks well of Pileggi and Scorsese's judgment in avoiding a trap, and in talking UP to the audience.

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 03:34 (fourteen years ago) link

before you explain how the Godfather talks down the audience, can you explain how it denies that the mob is about numbskulls killing each other?

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 03:36 (fourteen years ago) link

cuz while the tone is pretty operatic and grand (not sure I'd call that talking down to the audience, though), its still mostly a bunch of guys shooting each other.

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 03:37 (fourteen years ago) link

hey vaffanculo ya goombahs.

SHASTA OUT

― Fartbritz Sootzveti (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 03:38 (fourteen years ago) link

But in the scene at Tommy’s house, where Martin Scorsese’s mother has her cameo fixing the guys dinner and Billy Batts is outside bleeding to death in the trunk, Henry is laughing with the others over the Batts being a goner. In his heart, Henry is as much of a murderer as they are. But in the film he’s just an accomplice to murder.

Did this guy see the same movie that I did? Was it him laughing or was it him always being so quiet?

He may have gone heh heh to keep up the cover, but he wasn't anywhere near being the murderer Tommy and Jimmy were.

― http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 03:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Read one Spielberg thread.

― Eric H., Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:08 AM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark

ILX has speilberg threads?

― tumlbrah (dayo), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 03:45 (fourteen years ago) link

how about the end of godfather 2 when michael kills his brother and basically damns himself to hell

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 03:47 (fourteen years ago) link

SPOILER ALERT s1ocki :(

― tumlbrah (dayo), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 03:48 (fourteen years ago) link

ian grey's moralizing in that article is super-tiresome

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 03:49 (fourteen years ago) link

At the end, Henry doesn't care about the piles of corpses he has passive-aggressively accumulated. He's bummed because he can't get a good red sauce (Rim shot!) in witness protection.

o no they don't all hug and learn at the end

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 03:49 (fourteen years ago) link

croup, there's all that bullshit about Vito being against narcotics trade, and how they're really just a loving family that went astray

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 03:53 (fourteen years ago) link

there's the very same bullshit about the patron (Pauly Sorvino) being against the narcotics trade in Goodfellas Morbsies. Ayyyy vaffanculo *grabs nuts*

― Fartbritz Sootzveti (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 03:57 (fourteen years ago) link

I guess one upside of "Goodfellas" is that without it, we wouldn't have Showtime’s "Dexter," an infinitely more complex work on almost every level except visually.

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 03:59 (fourteen years ago) link

leave the guns, grab the nuts

― tumlbrah (dayo), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 03:59 (fourteen years ago) link

nothing to see here folks

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 03:59 (fourteen years ago) link

*bites knuckle a la bowzer in sha na na*

― Fartbritz Sootzveti (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 04:07 (fourteen years ago) link

I guess one upside of "Goodfellas" is that without it, we wouldn't have Showtime’s "Dexter," an infinitely more complex work on almost every level except visually.

Speaking of morality in American entertainment...

― No Good, Scrunty-Looking, Narf Herder (Gukbe), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 04:11 (fourteen years ago) link

croup, there's all that bullshit about Vito being against narcotics trade

surprised you of all people don't believe an old guy could get arbitrarily moralistic about the good old days

and how they're really just a loving family that went astray

I really don't get how you could get this from the two films, but even if you did, that doesn't mean the film denies the thuggish nature of the mob - if anything that's the corrupting element.

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 06:09 (fourteen years ago) link

godfather is definitely a more romantic movie than goodfellas, but someone could easily say that goodfellas is more cynical and cartoonish

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 06:10 (fourteen years ago) link

From the first line, "As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster," the film proclaims its limitations. Because Martin Scorsese does not do psychology, the best one could expect is a portrait of machismo in crisis situation -- which means brilliantly rendered violence from which the main characters learn nothing.

I don't get how the second part follows the first - is all of that really contained in the line "As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster"

also lol at drawing arbitrary distinction between art and not art by inclusion of nihilism

― Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile (dayo), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 06:59 (fourteen years ago) link

But because I had been a first wave punk rocker, I knew those buzzes were not to be trusted

nuh uh, not gonna get fooled again, nope

― Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile (dayo), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 07:07 (fourteen years ago) link

The things I loved about "Goodfellas" -- the wedding where every man is named Peter or Paul and all the women Marie; De Niro getting pissed about the silencers not fitting the guns; the guys making a nice pork sauce in prison; even Henry beating the crap out of that douche bag that hurt Karen -- I still treasure. The rest I reckon I'll be dealing with from different angles, as long as I'm around to reckon.

yeah....have fun with that.

― ('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 07:09 (fourteen years ago) link

But because I had been a first wave punk rocker, I knew those buzzes were not to be trusted

lol, fuck this idiot

― latebloomer, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 10:41 (fourteen years ago) link

ian grey's moralizing in that article is super-tiresome

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:49 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

seriously. it's not like goodfellas isn't already a moralistic film; the second half of the movie is basically all about hill's life of crime becoming increasingly more unsustainable and pathetic.

― latebloomer, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 10:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Don't get me wrong, The (first) Godfather is a very good movie, it's just a lie. So were most of the great Cagney gangster films before White Heat.

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 11:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Shasta, the fallout from Pauly's opposition to drug trade doesnt have the same weight or consequences of Vito's, so stfu

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 11:30 (fourteen years ago) link

The (first) Godfather is a very good movie, it's just a lie.

Not sure Goodfellas is that much more "the truth," feels like the difference is tone rather than content in a lot of ways, but I'm glad to hear you say this. Was tempted to ask if you hated Citizen Kane for piling "phony romantic bullshit" on the newspaper industry.

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:19 (fourteen years ago) link

that gq oral history is quite magnificent, no

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:23 (fourteen years ago) link

well i think the difference is a lot in the details croups... i get the feeling that mario puzo was just making stuff up as he went along whereas the specifics of gfellas is what makes it great.

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:24 (fourteen years ago) link

that's fair to a point, and I can see why someone would prefer either. But the idea that Goodfellas is inherently better for reveling in the thuggish, criminal side rather than an immigrant dynasty feels as moralistic and arbitrary as Mr. Grey's reasons for acclaiming Casino and Shutter Island.

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:27 (fourteen years ago) link

feel like morbs def has a point here, tho its maybe overstated, a lot of peoples love for the godfathers is on a 'arent these people magical' type level due to the flakey romanticism of the thing

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:30 (fourteen years ago) link

that's so weird to me

― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:31 (fourteen years ago) link

i like 'the godfather' and 'goodfellas'

― l'avventura: pet detective (history mayne), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:31 (fourteen years ago) link

everyone in the godfather is completely miserable

― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:31 (fourteen years ago) link

not sure a lot of people's Goodfellas love is any more considered

xpost

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:32 (fourteen years ago) link

no but godfather def has this 'family' thing that gives it a warm glow. i agree. and that might be dishonest. but it is why people love it so much. you want to be hanging out with these guys. you want to be tom hagen, the adopted member of the family.

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:33 (fourteen years ago) link

the sheen of power fascinates - while i certainly enjoy some godfathers feel like slocki has a strong point re the positive atributes of verisimilitude

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:34 (fourteen years ago) link

plenty of goodfellas fans want to hang out with those guys, some because they wish they got kick the shit out of people all the time

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:34 (fourteen years ago) link

YOU POPPED YOUR CHERRY!!!

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link

a lot of peoples love for the godfathers is on a 'arent these people magical' type level due to the flakey romanticism of the thing

This was certainly a trope in the public response to The Godfather 35 years ago; no one cares now.

― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link

the first half of goodfellas is like that, basically all warm and family-ish, but um then it changes. but because it's first-person, um, that kind of changes shit. 'the godfather' has a totally different attitude to its material.

― l'avventura: pet detective (history mayne), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:36 (fourteen years ago) link

feel like i never see middle age dudes get all sparkly eyed reciting lines from goodfellas

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:37 (fourteen years ago) link

no, just college students

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:37 (fourteen years ago) link

no but godfather def has this 'family' thing that gives it a warm glow

The oldest brother's a sociopath, the middle one's a wuss, the youngest glowers. Meanwhile the sister is fucking Frank Sinatra. I never really felt the glow.

Maybe the glow was from the cannolis in the oven.

― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:37 (fourteen years ago) link

alfred people really care, they sure care for real, especially older italian type guys

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link

and yeah maybe we do like that warmth and people accept the romanticism, a bit

that's part of how films work, and why they resonate

someone alert the authorities

― l'avventura: pet detective (history mayne), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link

if the goal is apparently to find a mob movie that doesn't make the mob glamorous, goodfellas aint it.

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link

well ya, the whole POINT of goodfellas is what a great life these guys had, how untouchable they were, what the attraction was

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:39 (fourteen years ago) link

its like drug movies, whether you revel in the puke and DTs or suggest junkies are fun-loving saints, you're saying drugs are a BIG DEAL, that taking them gives you a great story.

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:40 (fourteen years ago) link

the first godfather starts at a wedding. the second at a catholic bar mitzvah. there's tons of scenes of vito tenderly attending to his kids in 2. i mean, the family gets mad corrupted and fragmented, but dont tell me people dont dig on the family vibe. thats what really set it apart from your other gangster movies.

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link

I was going to say: Drugstore Cowboy flits in and out of romanticism really well.

― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Henry Hill: [narrating] Anything I wanted was a phone call away. Free cars. The keys to a dozen hideout flats all over the city. I bet twenty, thirty grand over a weekend and then I'd either blow the winnings in a week or go to the sharks to pay back the bookies.
[Henry leaves the witness stand and speaks directly to the camera]
Henry Hill: Didn't matter. It didn't mean anything. When I was broke, I'd go out and rob some more. We ran everything. We paid off cops. We paid off lawyers. We paid off judges. Everybody had their hands out. Everything was for the taking. And now it's all over.

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link

can't believe henry hill doesn't 'learn something' at the end

― l'avventura: pet detective (history mayne), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:42 (fourteen years ago) link

as a former punk rocker, i was appalled

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link

there's tons of scenes of vito tenderly attending to his kids in 2. i mean, the family gets mad corrupted and fragmented, but dont tell me people dont dig on the family vibe

But that's why, I think, Coppola uses the present-day stuff as counterpoint: the family feeling was brief and intense. Post-Vito it's all a sham, and probably always was. Because it's your dad's life at stake and because your oldest brother's a doofus, you're going to slowly assume control of the family. Not a heartwarming message.

― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link

gomorrah is a p good mob movie that doesnt romanticize the mob much. really at all.

though i think a lot of ppl around here hated it.

― max, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:44 (fourteen years ago) link

oh for sure.

dont get me wrong, i agree.

but i still think people like to dwell on the warm family stuff.

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:44 (fourteen years ago) link

people def vibe off the power of goodfellas, but theres an absence of romantic longing - also in godfather love theres an aspect of we all know and agree this is THE quality filmmaking isnt that great, which grates - feel like w/goodfellas theres more sheer delight

i dont think these problems totally indict the godfathers or anything, but they certainly spark suspicion that there might be something deeply lame going on

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:44 (fourteen years ago) link

ya gomorrah rather aggressively tries to de-romanticize it.

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:44 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean godfather is a fall from grace movie. vito's era is definitely seen as a golden age.

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Did Tommy tell you about my painting?

Look at this.

It's beautiful.

One dog goes one way and
the other goes the other.

One's facing east, the other west.

He's saying, "Whaddya want from me?"
The guy's got a nice head of white hair.

Beautiful. The dog looks the same.

― chrisv2010, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:45 (fourteen years ago) link

gomorrah more like boremorrah

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:45 (fourteen years ago) link

longing for an era when both dogs went the same way

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link

*sniffle*

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link

canonical films with romantic longing arouse the suspicion they might be lame, gotcha

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link

"Don't you try to sell me your false bill of goods, Welles!"

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:47 (fourteen years ago) link

i didnt say that...?

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:47 (fourteen years ago) link

just tryin to unpack the gfather's appeal a bit. and thats definitely a part of it.

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:48 (fourteen years ago) link

There's a powerful documentary influence throughout "Goodfellas," and a lot of the camerawork and visual devices (freeze frames and title cards) make that lineage clear.

matt zoller seitz more like matt making up ignorant bullshit seitz

― l'avventura: pet detective (history mayne), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:48 (fourteen years ago) link

sorry slock, was an xpost to ice cream people def vibe off the power of goodfellas, but theres an absence of romantic longing - also in godfather love theres an aspect of we all know and agree this is THE quality filmmaking isnt that great, which grates - feel like w/goodfellas theres more sheer delight

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:48 (fourteen years ago) link

IM SRY DA CROUPIER THAT U R A SAD OLD ITALIAN TYPE GUY WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN CROSSES TO BARE HERE LISTEN TO THIS VIOLIN MUSIC

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:48 (fourteen years ago) link

neither side of that Salon debate impressed me too greatly

xpost whatsamattayou

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:49 (fourteen years ago) link

"Lay off the drugs. They're turnin' your mind into mush."

― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:49 (fourteen years ago) link

donnie brasco, not a great movie but not terrible, does well w this de-romanticising aspect imho - pacino sitting round in a slobby tracksuit, a penny-pinching leech and kinda stoopid w it

― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link

the problem with chasing a film that successfully deromanticizes the mob is you're chasing a film that makes organized crime look boring and unpleasant. enjoy that ride!

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:59 (fourteen years ago) link

as far as the eras go the mob had more power in godfathers time and less in brascos w/goodfellas being in the middle - i dont particularly buy that they were ever as refined as the godfather but they were at that point a ridiculously prominent criminal enterprise, some say wired all the way up to the presidency - by the time brasco rolled around they were much diminished

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link

casino

― chrisv2010, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link

by the time brasco rolled around they were much diminished

thanks to the powerful investigative acumen of film critics

― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link

'the godfather' is about the top men in one of the five families, 'goodfellas' not really. de niro and henry aren't even made men.

― l'avventura: pet detective (history mayne), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link

what i mean is: the protagonists in 'the godfather' don't get their hands so directly dirty

― l'avventura: pet detective (history mayne), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link

ya all u see in goodfellas is their immediate bosses. it never goes all the way up.

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:19 (fourteen years ago) link

do we know what paulies rank is

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:22 (fourteen years ago) link

ambassador to the court of st james

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:23 (fourteen years ago) link

wikipedia says capo (I checked when Morbz complained Vito's stance on drugs has more consequence than Pauly's - well, duh)

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link

the sopranos best shows the revenue decline in the five families, johnny sacramoni is an underboss and he gets all about a maserati and a mcmansion

― The Managing Director of Being (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link

[all excited about]

― The Managing Director of Being (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link

'the godfather' is about the top men in one of the five families, 'goodfellas' not really. de niro and henry aren't even made men.
...
ya all u see in goodfellas is their immediate bosses. it never goes all the way up.

I've always found this interesting about Scorsese's gangster movies - sequentially they climb the mafia's ladder of power in terms of who they focus on (Mean Streets = bottom-feeding street thugs, Goodfellas = foot soldiers in a crew, Casino = middle management/capos), but he never goes all the way to the top. In all of those movies you catch glimpses of the old guys in the back room, counting the money, quietly running the show, but they are always in the background. I'd initially hoped that Gangs of New York was gonna be the story about that generation of guys, the proto=Godfather types, but that isn't how it worked out. Maybe Marty feels Scorsese already covered that ground as well as possible, and just doesn't want to bother or it isn't interesting to him anymore...

― Gene Shalit in a Child's Sailor Hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link

er COPPOLA

― Gene Shalit in a Child's Sailor Hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link

i think those guys are just less interesting. they're just rich guys who let everyone else do the bad stuff for them.

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm guessing its both the sense that Godfather told that story well enough and his general identification with the class of mobster that still has to deal with Joe Pesci

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i mean the story of anyone's rise is always gonna be more interesting than the point at which they get to lounge by the pool (or lounge in the dingy backroom of a grocery store) and count their winnings.

― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link

and yet Hannibal Rising is not more interesting than Hannibal

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago) link

the departed is about an actual #1 thug, but then the provincial character kinda detracts from it

if he wants to do a film about an actual capo di tutto type then that wd be great...

― The Managing Director of Being (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago) link

i blame that on the lack of scorsese's mom. xp

― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah obviously I don't mean that the story should be told about their fat-old-rich period, but their rise to power. altho the Sopranos starts with Tony at the top, and that was pretty genius. but maybe it's just well-travelled territory, not worth bothering..

― Gene Shalit in a Child's Sailor Hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link

seriously i may like her more in casino where she's shushing everyone all the time

― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link

the departed is about an actual #1 thug, but then the provincial character kinda detracts from it

different setting from the others altogether tho (Boston/Irish Mafia + mostly being about cops/informers)

― Gene Shalit in a Child's Sailor Hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago) link

considering how much narration is in Casino, Scorsese's mom didn't shush nearly enough

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link

seriously i may like her more in casino where she's shushing everyone all the time

all the scenes in the grocery store are A+++

― Gene Shalit in a Child's Sailor Hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link

she's also about the only thing i like in casino other than the fatty ham of james woods' performance.

― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah this is neither here nor there but i dunno how anyone gets an hour into casino

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

― Gene Shalit in a Child's Sailor Hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:50 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

he's not really at the top - the whole first season is the struggle for bosshood, and he never really gets there

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

casino starts great but just goes completely to hell

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

casino has some really great scenes but doesn't hang together too well

― Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile (dayo), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link

it's like they fucked it all up in the end

― ('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link

I just can't fathom what accent Joe Pesci was using in Casino – he's like a hamster from Bed-Stuy.

― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link

haha pesci's narration voice in casino is one of the most unpleasant sounds in movies for me

― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:56 (fourteen years ago) link

i think those guys are just less interesting. they're just rich guys who let everyone else do the bad stuff for them.

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:46 (3 minutes ago)

don't rly get this, ratzinger is no less interesting a study of corrupt piety because he's not actually in a parish and fucking the kids himself

rather the rarified brutality and simpering acolytes of the godfather archetype make for thrilling gesture politics, the slightest intimation of distaste that can have some cunt's throat slit at a moment's notice...

― The Managing Director of Being (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:56 (fourteen years ago) link

admitting my original disdain for Casino was based on a hour caught on USA, I tried to rewatch it but 45 minutes in it felt like we were still in the intro. I know I'm touchier than most about narration but honestly it felt like a radio play over a photo montage. If anything it was more enjoyable with basic cable putting it through the "Pallies" editing machine.

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link

atzinger is no less interesting a study of corrupt piety because he's not actually in a parish and fucking the kids himself

why you giving him ideas

― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link

that sentence is disgusting xxp

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n-rGnI9XNo

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Casino is bloated, but the good stuff in it (Woods, De Niro working in his office without any pants, the grocery store scenes, Don Rickles, etc) is great

― Gene Shalit in a Child's Sailor Hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

it's supposed to be disgusting, i'm comparing the church to a criminal organiation wrt their institutionalized criminality and 'omerta'

― The Managing Director of Being (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link

has scorsese really done a movie that goes hardcore with the catholicism* since mean streets? i mean it underlines everything, but i don't remember it as a major onscreen force. maybe his next flick will give us leo d. as a conflicted priest and daniel day as mustachioed pedo deacon.

*no last temptation of christ jokes plz.

― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link

the scene where the gaming commish comes to plead forgiveness for his son is awesome

also where they catch the cheats

― Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile (dayo), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Last Temptation is such a weird movie

― Gene Shalit in a Child's Sailor Hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link

has scorsese really done a movie that goes hardcore with the catholicism* since mean streets?

I would argue that The Age of Innocence is heavy with Catholic guilt despite its characters being Episcopalian.

― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link

i said deacon when i meant cardinal. i'm gonna get my knuckles whacked.

― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link

you're gonna get your eye popped out of your head

― ('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe his next flick will give us leo d. as a conflicted priest and daniel day as mustachioed pedo deacon.

lol you know martin's planning a movie about jesuit priests in japan starring Danny D-L, right?

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

one eye's going one way, the other eye's going the other way

― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

and the brain's sayin', "what do you want?"

― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

lol you know martin's planning a movie about jesuit priests in japan starring Danny D-L, right?

O_o

― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link

http://theplaylist.blogspot.com/2009/02/screw-super-bowl-scorsese-day-lewis-and.html

it may never actually get made, scorsese's saying he's doing one or two more first

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link

now saying, I mean

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link

"going to be a grim slide, Catholic guilt suffer-fest in Jesuit robes."

now that's entertainment.

― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link

The Last Temptation Goes To Kundun!

― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link

he never goes all the way to the top.

ep one of boardwalk empire gives you a lil glimpse of the outfit

not enough imo

― l'avventura: pet detective (history mayne), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/7906245/Goodfella-Henry-Hill-still-living-in-hiding-20-years-after-film-release.html

so weird how this article describes as still being in hiding when dude gets paid to like, make appearances at nightclubs

― cathy: ACK-er (s1ocki), Saturday, 9 October 2010 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Isn't he also opening restaurants and calling into Howard Stern every five minutes?

― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 9 October 2010 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah... he is such a fishy character

― cathy: ACK-er (s1ocki), Saturday, 9 October 2010 17:47 (fourteen years ago) link

He was moved 10 times to areas including Nebraska and Kentucky, living under aliases such as Martin Lewis and Peter Haines.

Was Abbot Costello already taken?

Also http://issuu.com/iheartau/docs/au69 p. 38

― http://tinyurl.com/hommphommp (Pleasant Plains), Saturday, 9 October 2010 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Ha. There are two guys who own a bar downtown who are named Martin and Jerry, and I always think their bizarro counterparts should be called Dean and Lewis.

― roast rage against the hoosteen (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 9 October 2010 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Luckily I was in a sandwich shop yesterday that had a copy of GQ from last fall with that oral history (linked above, but I missed this thread). Loved it.

― the point at which the whole world gets to try on the glasses (Eazy), Monday, 10 January 2011 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link

"People like John Turturro would come by and put sunglasses on and try to be an extra."

― the point at which the whole world gets to try on the glasses (Eazy), Monday, 10 January 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Also: picturing the potential Tom Cruise as Henry Hill, Madonna as his wife, Malkovich in the DeNiro role.

― the point at which the whole world gets to try on the glasses (Eazy), Monday, 10 January 2011 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link

lol john turturro is hero status imo

― zvookster, Monday, 10 January 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Kind of want to go watch both but I know there's no way I could sit that long in a theater.

http://feitheatres.com/somerville-theatre/double-feature-goodfellas-and-casino-feb-9-12/

Will most def watch gf though.

― ‎$^o$ (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I saw Casino in the theater, but haven't ever seen Goodfellas except for on television. Kinda weird since it's my favorite movie. Let us know what you notice different.

― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I will. Yeah, I haven't either. I distinctly remember my parents going and leaving me with a babysitter then coming home and talking about how good but "brutal" it was.

― ‎$^o$ (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I was watching Casino the other night on television, and stuff like the car explosion at the beginning, the white overhead lighting on the mob bosses and stuff like the casino activity behind DeNiro's desk is diminished.

The desert scenes were real cool, but on TV, it kinda comes across like a CSI episode.

― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I saw Casino and Heat around the same time at the sketchy Skyway Theater in downtown Minneapolis. The season of long movies.

Goodfellas is so focused on the idea of neighborhoods as central to identity, and Casino is an interesting progression from there to this patch of sand that is nobody's neighborhood. It's like Goodfellas is Europe and Casino is the new world.

― like launch the globs and strands (Eazy), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Goodfellas is so focused on the idea of neighborhoods as central to identity

I'm so into this idea. Like, in general.

― ‎$^o$ (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link

That was really profound, I know. lol.

― ‎$^o$ (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link

http://s11.acephotos.org/images/orig/x/1/x1xwe9ctlqn33nt.jpg

― am0n, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link

haha. That's going to be my ILX avatar when it's turned on next month.

― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

carbone

― am0n, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link

"No, we'll get him to drive! Probably get there faster."

― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

"Get the fuck outta here – what `warmin' up'?"

― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Come on, make that coffee to go, let's go.

― Son of Sisyphus of Reaganing (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:50 (thirteen years ago) link

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l4rg10iPPP1qz6f4bo1_r1_500.jpg

― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link

what the FUCK

― Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link

wait waht?

well . . . i just learned something

The oil of the two dogs was painted by Nicholas Pileggi’s mother, and is based on a photograph from the November 1978 issue of National Geographic. Pileggi was the author of Wise Guy, a treatment of the life of gangster Henry Hill, on which GoodFellas is based.

This may have been common knowledge but I wasn't aware. Whaddya want from me?

― ‎$^o$ (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link

At first I thought someone v v painstakingly recreated the painting but I was like wait a second . . . and then the internet came through.

― ‎$^o$ (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link

The oil of the two dogs was painted by Nicholas Pileggi's mother, and is based on a photograph from the November 1978 issue of National Geographic. Pileggi was the author of Wise Guy, a treatment of the life of gangster Henry Hill, on which Good Fellas is based. As chance would have it, Pileggi was present in 2006 when friend and casino developer Steve Wynn accidentally stuck his elbow through Le Rêve, a Picasso painting that Wynn was about to sell to hedge funder Steve Cohen for $139 million.

http://cherylbernstein.blogspot.com/2008/10/one-dog-goes-one-way-and-other-goes.html

― ‎$^o$ (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link

btw this is blowing my mind a little bit

― ‎$^o$ (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link

what do you want from me?

― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Looks like somebody we know.

― omar little, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/hs455.snc4/50504_285901334226_940927_n.jpg

― am0n, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

lol @ nose icicle

― am0n, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Carbone's hair was always awful.

― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

no way

― am0n, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link

i still don't get why they froze a *friend* to death. is it explained in the book? i mean.. sheesh.

― piscesx, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Jimmy did it himself. Paranoid that everyone involved would start singing. He was a psychopath who made the assumption that the more gruesome the death, the louder the signal would be.

― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link

mm i thought maybe he could have just ended up in the garbage though, with those others or gunned down or whatever. at least Morrie went quickly. frozen to death is so grim, possibly worse than the baseball bat method in Casino. it's debatable i guess!

― piscesx, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

freezing to death is like going to sleep, right? sure in this case it was like going to sleep while suspended on meathooks but hey what do you want from me?

― omar little, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

― ‎$^o$ (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought he was shot AND THEN frozen.

― Your cousin, Marvin Cobain (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/3387/screenshot20110119at127.png

― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i doubt he was frozen to death, just killed and then frozen

― Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.komplettblog.ie/wp-content/uploads/Val_Kilmer_011.jpg

― omar little, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link

mm i always hoped he was killed them frozen for his sake but why bother freezing him afterwards?

― piscesx, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

to send a freaking message man!!!!!!!

― Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

lol xpost because it's badass

― ‎$^o$ (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

frozen = no smell.

― i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

not that i've thought about these things just something i heard once...

― i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

that would make sense

― ‎$^o$ (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link

It took a long time for him to thaw out too. Any fresh evidence would be gone by then.

Didn't stop him with the other victims, but just sayin'.

― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Still, I never saw Jimmy so happy!

― omar little, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link

u guys shoulda voted in this poll ~ BAMBOO LOUNGE ~ roll call, roll call

― plopson (Aerosol), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

DeNiro never gets enough credit for knocking that phone booth over.

― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

im usually too distracted by his inability to cry in that scene

― Princess TamTam, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

mm that and the random guy walking past in the background.

― piscesx, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link

this "guy was frozen to death" theory is like some sub-"sleep! that's where I'm a viking" level nonsense

― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

When they found Carbone in the meat truck, he was frozen so stiff it took them three days to thaw him out for the autopsy.

― am0n, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

my father has carbone hair.

― Moonlight Graham (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

its utterly amazing.

― Moonlight Graham (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Make that coffee to go.

― clemenza, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh man, finally getting to the end of this (after watching the first 90 mins on Netflix week before last) and Councilman Sheeeee-it from The Wire is the doc at the hospital when Henry Hill is picking up Kevin Corrigan!

― like launch the globs and strands (Eazy), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

http://i.imgur.com/C61JV.jpg

― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link

That rules.

btw The fact that the dog painting is based on a real photograph is one of my favorite things I learned in a long while so thank you for that PP.

― $^o$ (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link

six months pass...

love the freeze frames

love the brief half a second shot of the car springs releasing as the fat guy gets out at the beginning

― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:58 (thirteen years ago) link

CREAM feat.e.clapton

― mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 02:09 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/TOAAt.jpg

I want these glasses!

― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 02:15 (thirteen years ago) link

corey do you like this movie

― has anyone seen my man-pants (rip van wanko), Sunday, 6 November 2011 02:19 (thirteen years ago) link

ray liotta looks like jude law, or jude law looks like ray liotta, must be that eyeliner

― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 02:25 (thirteen years ago) link

ACTORS BE BEIN ACTIN shockah

― mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 02:31 (thirteen years ago) link

idk it's that glint in ray's eye, saw the same in jude's in A.I., conniving slick con gaze

― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 02:33 (thirteen years ago) link

lol "layla" came on the radio today and the first thing i thought was "by the time they found carbone in the meat truck..."

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Sunday, 6 November 2011 02:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I heard a dirgey, New-Orleans style "Layla" done by Clapton and Wynton Marsalis on the radio today; I didn't think of Goodfellas.

― clemenza, Sunday, 6 November 2011 02:39 (thirteen years ago) link

<3 frankie carbone

http://content7.flixster.com/question/36/73/89/3673893_std.jpg

― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Sunday, 6 November 2011 03:05 (thirteen years ago) link

corey do you like this movie

― has anyone seen my man-pants (rip van wanko)

― buzza, Sunday, 6 November 2011 07:08 (thirteen years ago) link

"a dirgey, New-Orleans style "Layla" done by Clapton and Wynton Marsalis" <-- i see them both propped up in their fancy car shot through the face, and rightly so

― mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2011 11:17 (thirteen years ago) link

wanted to add something about how P Kael was a clueless fool re this film, but I gotta get the papers get the papers

― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 6 November 2011 12:35 (thirteen years ago) link

For what it's worth, Kael didn't slam Goodfellas the way she did Raging Bull. She clearly recoiled from Raging Bull; with Goodfellas, it was like she recognized a lot of what people loved about it, and dutifully acknowledged those things, but didn't have any enthusiasm for the film herself. There's an odd tone to the review, something close to resignation. I think she was wrong both times (think the reviews are excellent, though, and have read them many times), but I think she was more conflicted about Goodfellas.

― clemenza, Sunday, 6 November 2011 13:11 (thirteen years ago) link

liotta's dead-eyed rictus gape when laughs is the best thing about liotta

― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Sunday, 13 November 2011 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Agree with clemenza re: Kael's review. Its like she couldn't work up the lather to dismiss it like you could tell she wanted to; there's almost a feeling of her heart not being in it anymore. Can it be a coincidence that it came only weeks before she announced her departure from TNY?

― Who wants to see the great Pavarotti sit on a pie? (jer.fairall), Sunday, 13 November 2011 01:40 (thirteen years ago) link

(also, fuck this thread, cause I really wanna watch Goodfellas now and don't have anywhere near the time for it.)

― Who wants to see the great Pavarotti sit on a pie? (jer.fairall), Sunday, 13 November 2011 01:41 (thirteen years ago) link

weeks? I recall it coming out in Sept or Oct of '90, she didn't leave til '91.

― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 13 November 2011 07:44 (thirteen years ago) link

My mistake. I was thinking it was weeks rather than months since Goodfellas is one of the last reviews in Movie Love. It was basically at the end of her New Yorker run, though.

― Who wants to see the great Pavarotti sit on a pie? (jer.fairall), Sunday, 13 November 2011 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

AMC developing a TV series of it w/ Pileggi and Irwin Winkler.

― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

MADE MEN

― pplains, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

huh

― ☆★☆彡彡 (ENBB), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

I hope the series is a lengthy prequel that culminates in the painting of

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_F5fY63LECJY/SOK9WDbQM3I/AAAAAAAAAgM/REmi-vVCl0M/s400/blog+Pileggi+two+dogs.jpg

― i couldn't adjust the food knobs (Phil D.), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

wish that said "Henry Winkler"

― buzza, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:45 (twelve years ago) link

schnook life

― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsS/16035-7534.jpg

― am0n, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

yeah all these dudes need to be in it of gtfo

~ BAMBOO LOUNGE ~ roll call, roll call

― buzza, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

The oil of the two dogs was painted by Nicholas Pileggi's mother, and is based on a photograph from the November 1978 issue of National Geographic. Pileggi was the author of Wise Guy, a treatment of the life of gangster Henry Hill, on which Good Fellas is based. As chance would have it, Pileggi was present in 2006 when friend and casino developer Steve Wynn accidentally stuck his elbow through Le Rêve, a Picasso painting that Wynn was about to sell to hedge funder Steve Cohen for $139 million.

― piscesx, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link

A picture of the actual photograph is buried somewhere itt iirc.

― ☆★☆彡彡 (ENBB), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

Here's hoping they expand Vincent Gallo's role from the movie

― Number None, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

I love how fake everybody's laugh is in this movie

― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 04:01 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, for real

There's a corollary to that in the last season or two of Sopranos, where Tony tells a joke tO his crew and they're all shown laughing in slow-mo as Tony realizes it's all really just toadying up

― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 04:33 (twelve years ago) link

Damn, lotsa arguing in this thread

― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 04:34 (twelve years ago) link

You really ARE a funny guy

― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 04:44 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

It was real greaseball shit.

― am0n, Thursday, 15 March 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

https://twitter.com/#!/TheHenryHill/status/173853273944621056

― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 15 March 2012 21:39 (twelve years ago) link

I just spent a minute trying to complete this sentence: "Please hook me up with ______________'s Twitter feed." But everybody I thought of got whacked.

― clemenza, Thursday, 15 March 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

RIP Henry Hill

― queequeg (peter grasswich), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 04:58 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.tmz.com/2012/06/12/henry-hill-dead-goodfellas/

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 04:59 (twelve years ago) link

RIP, good story. That is too bad.

― โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka New Romantic Marxists (Mount Cleaners), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 05:02 (twelve years ago) link

i'm gonna go get the papers

http://euro8to12.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/JimmyTwoTimes2X.jpg

get the papers

― ➂ ➌ ➂ (Pillbox), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 05:21 (twelve years ago) link

RIP, good story. That is too bad.

^ this too

― ➂ ➌ ➂ (Pillbox), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 05:29 (twelve years ago) link

Picturing two gravediggers standing in a cemetery somewhere arguing: "Now you're going to dig the hole. I got no fucking lime."

Did he ever get to enjoy his celebrity, or was he in the program till the end?

― clemenza, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 11:21 (twelve years ago) link

he usta do the Howard Stern show!

― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 11:45 (twelve years ago) link

he always seemed about -300 charisma on the ray liotta character, unsurprisingly i suppose.

― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 12:21 (twelve years ago) link

Finally gave in and went to take care of that thing in Tampa.

― pplains, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 13:40 (twelve years ago) link

he followed me on twitter.

― brony ver (s1ocki), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:17 (twelve years ago) link

when you posted, he followed

― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:19 (twelve years ago) link

he usta do the Howard Stern show!
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 12:45 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I heard Stern got him to confess to murder on air for a drink of vodka. Classy all round.

― hipster Jubilee party (onimo), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:23 (twelve years ago) link

[Editorial cartoon featuring HENRY HILL waiting in line to get into HEAVEN just like everybody else.]
***DEADLINE Thurs. Morning (6/14)***

― pplains, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

Holy Shite! I was just thinking about HH yesterday like 'This guy has got to die soon, right?'

― fine with 49 (sunny successor), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

whacked by death.

― pplains, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:50 (twelve years ago) link

my game gets downright prescient when im all fevered up. will make predictions next flu season.

― fine with 49 (sunny successor), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link

if they cremate him, will they throw him into the oven head first?

― pplains, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:57 (twelve years ago) link

"that's the guy!" - god

― brony ver (s1ocki), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link

Funeral music:

"Atlantis"
"Life Is But a Dream" (Harptones)
"Layla" (slow part only)

― clemenza, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

You're pretty optimistic. Thinking that snitch is gonna get "Jump Into the Fire".

― pplains, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

haha

― brony ver (s1ocki), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link

Jerry Vale is still alive, will be getting a call.

― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

hahah

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

how a schnook can break the spell of narrative cinema

http://somecamerunning.typepad.com/some_came_running/2012/06/schnook.html

― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

ten months pass...

Via Jake Fogelnest on Twitter, the songs Mr. Hill was listening to in his car stereo thirty-three years ago today:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1zJ5SGdkS9zSsEFGl-9GAijQyJQhNngz

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 11 May 2013 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

just ignore me. found a new toy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWAM3j2wQ_8

― pplains, Saturday, 24 August 2013 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

lol

― caek, Saturday, 24 August 2013 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

I can't think of another film as long as Goodfellas that I actually like all the way through. There aren't any parts of Goodfellas I just sit through.

― cardamon, Saturday, 24 August 2013 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKE-7M3UJfc

― pplains, Sunday, 25 August 2013 01:04 (eleven years ago) link

four months pass...

this movie

― socki (s1ocki), Friday, 27 December 2013 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

I'M STIRRING

― socki (s1ocki), Friday, 27 December 2013 17:13 (eleven years ago) link

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4FF2-I_918Q/TsS2GsGCW5I/AAAAAAAAVNo/W5URMYjTinc/s1600/ShineBoxSticker5x7fullbleed.jpg

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 27 December 2013 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

why is his shoulder talking

― socki (s1ocki), Friday, 27 December 2013 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/indictment-notorious-1978-jfk-lufthansa-heist

― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 23 January 2014 15:45 (ten years ago) link

Still, I never so Jimmy so happy!

― christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 23 January 2014 15:50 (ten years ago) link

hahahaha, Jimmy!

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1376860.1371660633!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/dn02137.jpg

JIMMY!

― pplains, Thursday, 23 January 2014 15:56 (ten years ago) link

Had no idea:

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.100450.1313910664!/img/httpImage/gal-gf-stella-keitel-jpg.jpg

Stella Keitel, the real-life daughter of Bracco and Scorsese pal Harvey Keitel, played the older child of Henry and Karen Hill.

Also, I have no idea what's happening on this website, but it's entertaining nonetheless: http://goodfellasecigarettes.blogspot.com/

― pplains, Thursday, 23 January 2014 16:09 (ten years ago) link

Hey can someone please hack the AP website and make that article end with "Now go get your fuckin' shinebox?" Thanks in advance.

― Ian from Etobicoke (Phil D.), Thursday, 23 January 2014 16:11 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

http://vimeo.com/91206903

― caek, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 22:09 (ten years ago) link

That's amazing. I've read people who think the music in Goodfellas is too much, or that film directors aren't supposed to be DJs; I wonder if there's anyone who'd argue that's a more memorable shot without the music.

― clemenza, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 22:45 (ten years ago) link

Scorsese is definitely my favourite classic rock DJ.

― Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Friday, 11 April 2014 12:50 (ten years ago) link

Man those awkward little laughs

― 龜, Friday, 11 April 2014 14:38 (ten years ago) link

http://076dd0a50e0c1255009e-bd4b8aabaca29897bc751dfaf75b290c.r40.cf1.rackcdn.com/images/files/000/187/622/original/original.jpg

― am0n, Friday, 11 April 2014 14:55 (ten years ago) link

http://i500.listal.com/image/5086392/500full.jpg

― pplains, Friday, 11 April 2014 16:24 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/c6Kje6p.gif

― 龜, Saturday, 12 April 2014 00:26 (ten years ago) link

I'd make a Danny Boy, The Pipes Are Calling post, but I'd feel too much like a schmuck on wheels.

― pplains, Saturday, 12 April 2014 01:28 (ten years ago) link

Love this, from the GQ oral history:

During a break, one of the Mob guys in the movie comes to me and he says, “What is this ‘ball-breaker’ thing that you’re saying, the ‘unconscionable?’ ” I said, “You know, in the Caribbean there’s conch shells; you can’t break ‘em.” They all give me like the thumbs-up: “Oh, I get it. ‘Unconscionable!’”

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 12 April 2014 03:44 (ten years ago) link

six months pass...

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/news/fox-hit-250m-simpsons-lawsuit-232339724.html

― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 19:17 (ten years ago) link

Fuck you; Eat my shorts.

― pplains, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 19:26 (ten years ago) link

This fucking guy.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2690482/Goodfellas-actor-beef-deli-using-character-Italian-style-sandwich.html

― pplains, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 19:29 (ten years ago) link

oughta sue starbucks for making that coffee to go.

― pplains, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 19:30 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

25th anniv screening closes Tribeca (on the Upper West Side), with Jon Stewart grilling the principals afterward

http://tribecafilm.com/goodfellas

― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 March 2015 05:03 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

http://somecamerunning.typepad.com/some_came_running/2015/06/martin-amis-on-goodfellas.html

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 14:15 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ05oOZiZOA

― am0n, Thursday, 16 July 2015 19:47 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/DzTvgD9.png

― pplains, Monday, 20 July 2015 02:39 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

there have been ilx threads where ive done injustice to this movie based on half-interested, half-remembered and half-caught viewings. saw it tonight from start to finish with full attn and needless to say its a masterpiece and I crave full pardon.

― irl lol (darraghmac), Sunday, 9 August 2015 01:08 (nine years ago) link

I will, if requested and it is necessary to redeem myself, literally go home and get my shine box

― irl lol (darraghmac), Sunday, 9 August 2015 01:09 (nine years ago) link

GO GET IT YA FUCKIN MICK

(sorry Pesci bumrushed me idk what happened)

― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 9 August 2015 01:27 (nine years ago) link

i get blown away all over again every time i watch it

― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 9 August 2015 01:27 (nine years ago) link

There's only one Irishman in here.

― pplains, Sunday, 9 August 2015 01:40 (nine years ago) link

― drash, Sunday, 9 August 2015 01:48 (nine years ago) link

I will, if requested and it is necessary to redeem myself, literally go home and get my shine box

dance. dance.

― drash, Sunday, 9 August 2015 01:51 (nine years ago) link

http://wonkettecom.c.presscdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/denirogif.gif

― tayto fan (Michael B), Sunday, 9 August 2015 12:34 (nine years ago) link

No, no, you insulted him a little bit

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 9 August 2015 12:40 (nine years ago) link

fuckin charmers

― irl lol (darraghmac), Monday, 10 August 2015 02:26 (nine years ago) link

MOTHERFUCKER! MOTHERFUCKER!

― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 10 August 2015 02:37 (nine years ago) link

Fuck you pay me

― Brio2, Monday, 10 August 2015 18:06 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

https://s3.amazonaws.com/tribeca_cms_production/uploads/uploads/image/gallery_image/520e665ba32a61f851000001/dancing_done_.gif

released 25 years ago today!

― nomar, Saturday, 19 September 2015 16:49 (nine years ago) link

hiya, Hendry

― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 September 2015 16:57 (nine years ago) link

This is the movie that taught me to chop garlic into very thin strips

― xelab, Saturday, 19 September 2015 18:13 (nine years ago) link

This is the movie that made me feel inadequate because I couldn't chop the garlic into thin enough strips. I just wanted them to dissolve when they touched the sauce!

― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Sunday, 20 September 2015 22:31 (nine years ago) link

first time i tried this the oil was too hot & the garlic shrivelled & burned ;_;

― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 20 September 2015 22:33 (nine years ago) link

One thing I do reflexively because of Goodfellas: whenever a friend orders a steak medium-rare, I'll say "Ah, an aristocrat." (Not that I'm dining in steakhouses every night--a couple of times a year, most recently two weeks ago.)

― clemenza, Sunday, 20 September 2015 22:41 (nine years ago) link

― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 20 September 2015 22:53 (nine years ago) link

My cinephile roommate dragged me to see this about a week after it was released (he'd already seen it on opening day). Watching the "You think I'm funny?" scene in a theater full of people who had no idea what was coming next was absolutely chilling/hilarious.

After the movie, my roommate and I took the train home. Upon walking into our building, we saw that the front glass doors were shattered and covered in blood. The building manager was in the lobby, mopping up blood. He said, "Don't worry about it boys, just some random vandalism. Go on upstairs." In my mind, this is inextricably linked to Goodfellas.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 20 September 2015 23:09 (nine years ago) link

I didn't want to get blood on your floor

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 September 2015 23:24 (nine years ago) link

irl lol

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 20 September 2015 23:52 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.theonion.com/article/robert-de-niro-stunned-learn-man-who-can-quote-goo-51823

― pplains, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 17:30 (nine years ago) link

breaking real-life relevance via the NYT

A federal jury in Brooklyn cleared Vincent Asaro on all counts in a trial for charges related to the 1978 Lufthansa robbery, along with other acts of racketeering and extortion.

― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 November 2015 21:04 (nine years ago) link

nine months pass...

Someone tell Scorsese I fixed his movie:

http://i.imgur.com/XvzP3t2.jpg

It'll still kill your suspension of disbelief if you look at it too closely, but it's better than what it was.

― pplains, Monday, 15 August 2016 23:34 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEjMyHccX8U

― 龜, Thursday, 1 December 2016 13:50 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

Saw this on 35mm in Astoria, more fully appreciated Chuck Low's performance as Morrie the toupee guy.

and yeah, all the Sopranos

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 12 February 2017 01:15 (seven years ago) link

man i'd love to see it again in the theater

― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 12 February 2017 01:42 (seven years ago) link

it's possible i never knew that Scorsese's dad whacks Joe Pesci

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 February 2017 20:48 (seven years ago) link

(and tends the big sauce pot in prison)

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 February 2017 20:48 (seven years ago) link

Medium rare...eh, an arisocrat

― nomar, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 20:51 (seven years ago) link

aristocrat!!

― nomar, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 20:52 (seven years ago) link

"the hoof"

(ad lib by De Niro)

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 February 2017 20:59 (seven years ago) link

gotta hack it off. ma, it's a sin. you gonna leave it there? you know.

― nomar, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 21:04 (seven years ago) link

I knew he was tending the sauce, but I never connected that character to both scenes!

― pplains, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 21:38 (seven years ago) link

So many family members, tending the sauce.

― pplains, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 21:38 (seven years ago) link

(ad lib by De Niro)

iirc, the whole scene was ad-libbed.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 14 February 2017 21:43 (seven years ago) link

Yes, largely improv'd it seems, but "hoof" was partic inspired along with Tommy's critique of Ma's painting.

Tho i first saw this in '90 (with my Italian boyfriend from Brooklyn!) it was the first time since i'd started heavily on Sopranos, so it was odd to hear "Melfi's voice" coming from Karen... She and Liotta both played the strung-out 1980 scenes well i thought.

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 February 2017 21:45 (seven years ago) link

(clearly improvisation is the way to draw indelible cameos from Mama Scorsese)

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 February 2017 21:47 (seven years ago) link

Love her scenes in the grocery store in Casino. I don't think her reaction to "I said 'freakin' head'!" could've been scripted.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 00:37 (seven years ago) link

Been thinking anyway about ~What If~ movies set in certain eras had to have soundtracks from the year they were released. Like, the opening napalm scene of Apocalypse Now forced to have Supertramp's "Gone Hollywood" under it.

Or...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZksF1FmKCrQ

― pplains, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 05:24 (seven years ago) link

i wonder, cuz i have no idea what "Wanna" is

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 11:52 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

I have a rare night to myself, should I go see Goodfellas at the Castro? I've never seen it on the big screen.

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 20:50 (seven years ago) link

wonder if this is the same 35mm print Morbz saw

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 20:51 (seven years ago) link

why wouldnt ya

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 20:51 (seven years ago) link

idk some combination of laziness and poverty

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 20:53 (seven years ago) link

plus I have seen it many times, albeit on a small screen

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 20:53 (seven years ago) link

but the 35mm...

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 20:54 (seven years ago) link

Go and see it.

― Never changed username before (cardamon), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 21:00 (seven years ago) link

GO SEE IT JFC WHY IS THIS A QUESTION

― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 21:02 (seven years ago) link

At work yesterday we discussed this scene. It's terrific how Paulie and Henry play this fool like a violin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxGjPCOpbv0

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 21:12 (seven years ago) link

Always loved this imdb trivia:

For the scene where Sonny Bunz complains to Paulie, Martin Scorsese secretly told Tony Darrow to improvise more lines for his character without telling Paul Sorvino. Sorvino's confused reaction was real.

― pplains, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 21:17 (seven years ago) link

ok fine I'll go

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 22:48 (seven years ago) link

― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 23:00 (seven years ago) link

my favorite bit of V.O. in the film is the transition here:

When they found Sepe in the meat truck, he was frozen so stiff it took them two days to thaw him out for the autopsy.
Still, I never saw Jimmy so happy! He was like a kid.

― nomar, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 23:23 (seven years ago) link

sorry, Carbone...not Sepe

― nomar, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 23:24 (seven years ago) link

Continuity error in that clip: at 2:11 Paulie's got a cigar in his mouth, but it's suddenly gone at 2:12.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 23:43 (seven years ago) link

Paulie moved slow, but he smoked really fast.

― clemenza, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 23:49 (seven years ago) link

Bah its not 35mm its 4k dcp

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 00:12 (seven years ago) link

oh Castro, go get yer shinebox

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 June 2017 00:59 (seven years ago) link

what booooooooooooo castro

― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 June 2017 01:12 (seven years ago) link

i wonder, cuz i have no idea what "Wanna" is

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, February 15, 2017 5:52 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's "I Wanna Be Adored" by Stone Roses, 1991.

It's just "Wanna" on Youtube because I don't want copyright police to shut it down (though I guess they can just Shazam it, as the do with everything else.)

― pplains, Thursday, 1 June 2017 01:22 (seven years ago) link

Lol the organist is playing that's amore

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 01:47 (seven years ago) link

you wanted "Layla"?

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 June 2017 06:13 (seven years ago) link

"Jump Into The Fire"

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 1 June 2017 13:33 (seven years ago) link

so this was pretty good

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 15:22 (seven years ago) link

confirmed good film

― k3vin k., Thursday, 1 June 2017 15:24 (seven years ago) link

this scorsese guy, I think he could really go places

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 15:25 (seven years ago) link

was sweet when the crowd clapped for Ballhaus' credit at the end. I did not stick around for the Marriage of Maria Braun, however (sorry Werner)

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 15:27 (seven years ago) link

the pace of this movie is incredible, it's like the shortest two-and-a-half-hour movie ever made

― heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 1 June 2017 15:27 (seven years ago) link

yeah I was really struck by that at the point where it circles back to the opening scene w Batts in the trunk - all this amazing stuff has flown by, one adrenaline rush after another for about 30 minutes (?) - and then bang oh yeah, here we are back at the beginning, where things start to *really* go wrong.

the final shots of him in suburbia still felt a bit abrupt. His betrayal/turning rat happens really quickly and while I love when he walks out of the docket and talks directly to the camera, it's a bit disconcerting that there's not a more dramatic denouement for Jimmy and Paulie besides the post-script text

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 15:34 (seven years ago) link

the suburbia stuff worked because it is so abrupt, in my opinion, and you can see how it would feel worse than prison for Hen-dry.

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2017 15:37 (seven years ago) link

yeah, henry's been in freefall for a while and suburbia is the crash landing. it's all over for him and he's our pov, so why hang around to watch him clip coupons or wait in line at the post office or whatever?

― heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 1 June 2017 15:42 (seven years ago) link

yeah you can always listen to Hill's '90s appearances on the Howard Stern show

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 June 2017 15:44 (seven years ago) link

I didn't mean more shots of him being bored in suburbia I meant something that maybe leaned on the ramifications and fallout of his betrayal on the others

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:14 (seven years ago) link

one thing I did notice on rewatch that I hadn't thought about much before is how many children are in the movie - kids are constantly shown as (mostly) mute observers, helpless bystanders and occasionally helpless accomplices to the behavior of these psychos

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:17 (seven years ago) link

so this ones worth watching?

dude has released so much it looks like he poops it all out once a year

― i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:18 (seven years ago) link

well it's no Star Wars: The Force Blows Up a Death Star Pt VIII

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:43 (seven years ago) link

it is just like Inception tho

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:50 (seven years ago) link

sounds good enough

check out taxi driver if u haven't heard/seen it tho

pretty decent

― i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:50 (seven years ago) link

other random thought: the music cues in the coke bust sequence are crazy, in my memory that whole thing was just Jump Into the Fire, but there's like 7 or 8 songs all cut together through the whole thing

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 18:14 (seven years ago) link

From the GQ piece ∞ linked to in the Spinal Tap thread:

http://www.gq.com/story/spinal-tap-vs-hollywood

Consider producer Irwin Winkler's 2015 suit against Warner Bros., which stated he hadn't been paid his 50 percent share of the net profits from the 1990 Mob classic Goodfellas. According to the complaint, Warners sent periodic net-profit reports for a while (the studio eventually stopped, claiming the film would never, ever be in the black), but those reports intentionally misrepresented how much the film had made (allegedly more than $275 million). Winkler claimed that Warners had concealed about $140 million in revenue by playing a sort of shell game with its wholly owned subsidiary, Warner Home Video, and had also charged fees and interest on past fees. “This was ‘studio accounting’ on steroids,” the suit alleged. “It was also fraud.” Warners settled last year.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:05 (seven years ago) link

The film only did modest bizness at the box office; I would imagine home video turned it around.

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:07 (seven years ago) link

lol *27* Sopranos castmembers were in this

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:39 (seven years ago) link

other random thought: the music cues in the coke bust sequence are crazy, in my memory that whole thing was just Jump Into the Fire, but there's like 7 or 8 songs all cut together through the whole thing

A favorite Scorsese cue nobody talks about: Syncing Henry's rejuvenating bump of coke to the 70s Waters/Winter version of "Mannish Boy".

― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:48 (seven years ago) link

I love that he only uses the opening line of "Mannish Boy" and then segues into "What Is Life." And the "Magic Bus" edit/usage is perfect.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:57 (seven years ago) link

yeah Magic Bus is only in there for like 5 seconds!

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:00 (seven years ago) link

tarfumes

hollywood accounting right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_accounting

― i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:12 (seven years ago) link

Yep.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:15 (seven years ago) link

I didn't mean more shots of him being bored in suburbia I meant something that maybe leaned on the ramifications and fallout of his betrayal on the others

― Οὖτις, Thursday, June 1, 2017 5:14 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nah the looks from Paulie and Jimmy say it all, then Henry continues on from there just annoyed about his lack of access to decent Italian food. which says it all about him.

― nomar, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:44 (seven years ago) link

re-watching this really reaffirmed the parallels between this and WoWS, just this parade of psychopathic assholes driven by greed

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 22:02 (seven years ago) link

But the similarity ends there. One is spaghetti with marinara sauce, the other's egg noodles with ketchup.

― clemenza, Thursday, 1 June 2017 22:11 (seven years ago) link

if WoWS is inferior it's because it's bloated/too long and the cast is not quite as great.

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 22:19 (seven years ago) link

No real appetite for reviving something we exhausted three or four years ago, but for me the difference goes much, much deeper than that--it's Highway 61 vs. some useless mid-'80s Dylan album. (But bloated/too long, definitely.)

― clemenza, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:05 (seven years ago) link

I like WOWS as much as Empire Burlesque: tacky, bloated, probably unnecessary, but a lot of fun anyway.

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:06 (seven years ago) link

forty minutes >>> 4211 minutes or however long WOWS is.

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:06 (seven years ago) link

(I think it will be another 5-10 years before a consensus develops around how bad The Wolf of Wall Street really is. Gangs of New York got a lot of great reviews when it came out.)

― clemenza, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:07 (seven years ago) link

yeah I reject GONY without a second thought. The mustaches were the giveaway.

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:10 (seven years ago) link

GONY with the Wind--a high-concept pitch that got cut from The Player.

― clemenza, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:12 (seven years ago) link

me too, never liked it. WoWS is great though.

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:12 (seven years ago) link

GONY and WOWS are great fun but they're not watch-twice movies

― D'mnuchin returns (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:23 (seven years ago) link

GONY is an entertaining view, but a second viewing didn't do as much for me beyond some of the spectacle and a DDL performance that was eclipsed by two superficially similar roles, both his own in There Will be Blood and Ian McShane in Deadwood (lunatics with old timey facial hair.)

― nomar, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:56 (seven years ago) link

otoh WOWS is i think a genuinely excellent film

― nomar, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:57 (seven years ago) link

Wolf of Wall Street depressed the shit out of me for reasons I'm not entirely comfortable with. It made me worried for the same reasons that parents used to get worried about their kids watching violent horror or action movies, that it was going to produce a generation of violent sociopaths. I can seriously see this being the film that inspires a whole generation of future corporate assholes who like their money and coke plentiful and their women disposable. I hate taking this kind of moralistic stance towards a film, but that is what three hours in the company of these people did to me.

― some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Friday, 2 June 2017 02:18 (seven years ago) link

rest assured -- we'd never elect a violent sociopath as president

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 June 2017 02:24 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

Interesting history of Maurie the wig merchant
http://mafia.wikia.com/wiki/Martin_Krugman

― calstars, Monday, 21 August 2017 03:31 (seven years ago) link

Krugman was unable to drive. His wife would drive him wherever he needed to be.

"Maybe we should let him drive."

― pplains, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:45 (seven years ago) link

seven months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3fU_nrrxeA

― pplains, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 01:01 (six years ago) link

lmao

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 01:06 (six years ago) link

amazing

― omar little, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 01:10 (six years ago) link

i'd share that everywhere but i just saw that's your video lmao

― omar little, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 01:12 (six years ago) link

Private insta's one thing, but if it's on ILX, it's public.

― pplains, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 01:21 (six years ago) link

Sorry about the green stuff. Pollen might move slow, but pollen don't have to move for nobody.

― pplains, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 01:32 (six years ago) link

pplains i salute thee

― well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 02:30 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

Man I love how Tommy’s stories (which you can barely get a handle on because we jump into them halfway through and everyone is cracking up) are basically stories about him getting the shit kicked out of him, or him torturing someone. And I love that they’re done in an old school hack comedian delivery style. Pesci is actually at this point maybe extremely underrated in this role, he’s incredible.

Also love the moment when Jimmy tells Henry, “forget about tonight” re: Morrie, which feels like an easy narrative trick to deceive the audience, but the actual murder that follows is telegraphed so much that it comes off more like Jimmy thinking Henry doesn’t have the stomach for it, and maybe doesn’t 100% trust him because of that. Not ready to whack him yet, but hedging his bets on what he allows him to witness.

DeNiro saying “hoof” is still A+

― omar little, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 23:38 (six years ago) link

I've thought about the "forget about tonight" moment several times, and I thought Jimmy was genuinely gonna offer Morrie an amnesty -- until Morrie started busting his balls in the alley hours later.

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 00:07 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Love the bit where Tommy's trying to remember some Western starring Humphrey Bogart and Jimmy offers "Shane?"

― pplains, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:18 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

always love it when I remember how Pesci comes out of nowhere and starts beating Billy Batts (Frank Vincent) to death, and then how in Casino, Frank Vincent walks up behind Pesci and he and his men start beating him to death with bats.

― omar little, Thursday, 13 September 2018 22:04 (six years ago) link

Great movie and fuiud agree

― F# A# (∞), Thursday, 13 September 2018 23:02 (six years ago) link

Back it up one film: Vincent also gets a beating from Pesci in Raging Bull.

― clemenza, Thursday, 13 September 2018 23:05 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

this recut of Liotta's Chantix commercial is A+

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgM0OMTiVOw&feature=youtu.be

― Darin, Saturday, 8 December 2018 15:39 (six years ago) link

https://nofilmschool.com/2018/12/someone-re-cut-ray-liottas-chantix-commercial-scenes-goodfellas-and-its-pretty-awesome?fbclid=IwAR28EcQ3UMFNZ53_uawuNONXQo8iCeT4jWZOeX2gn8HXtoC4B7URDB24c10

― Darin, Saturday, 8 December 2018 15:39 (six years ago) link

Many people bring this scene up to me. It's where I beat the preppy who didn’t treat my girl w/ respect. #GoodFellas pic.twitter.com/VypJz7PVbV
— Ray Liotta (@rayliotta) December 15, 2016

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 16:03 (six years ago) link

Coming to the very late defense of Alex regarding After Hours. That film is brilliant, people.

― Jazzbo, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 16:42 (six years ago) link

yeah, it's great

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 16:56 (six years ago) link

Okay this is amazing

http://mrgodfrey.tumblr.com/post/157186647808/morries-wigs-behind-the-curtain

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 23:37 (six years ago) link

i love that. the Morrie commercial is too perfect.

― omar little, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 23:44 (six years ago) link

RIP to Frank Adonis aka Anthony Stabile

― omar little, Friday, 28 December 2018 19:25 (six years ago) link

RIP

https://i.imgur.com/6XGsF1K.png

― ✈️✈️ (pplains), Friday, 28 December 2018 22:38 (six years ago) link

Stabile was the club manager who complained to DeNiro about Tommy not paying his tab, right?

― calstars, Saturday, 29 December 2018 01:40 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

one of my favorite small moments is when Paulie's goons grab Henry's mailman off the street and he's just this regular innocent dude and they're yelling at him like "come here you piece of shit!" and "scumbag!"

― omar little, Sunday, 24 February 2019 19:11 (five years ago) link

didn't wanna get blood on your floor

― Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 February 2019 19:18 (five years ago) link

"No more mail from ANYBODY"

― Lactose Shaolin Wanker (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 24 February 2019 21:04 (five years ago) link

Every time I pass the smith 9th st station on the F Or G I consider getting off and checking out the nice coats I heard Conway has stored there

― calstars, Sunday, 24 February 2019 22:34 (five years ago) link

You have been visited by the Liotta of Blades and are granted his boon of a prosperous springtime. pic.twitter.com/DcaO835f65
— Drift (@Inanity101) February 25, 2019

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 25 February 2019 19:41 (five years ago) link

Can someone please point me to the Dances with Wolves thread?

― clemenza, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 00:26 (five years ago) link

six months pass...

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/09/02/the-irishman-martin-scorsese-tested-de-aging-tech-by-recreating-goodfellas-scene

"We made a little set that looked a little like the original film, and then Bob got going," Scorsese revealed. "He did his monologues and soliloquies and different expressions. 'Get rid of the fur coat! Get rid of the Cadillac!' Then he went through a series of computer processes."

Pleeeease let me see this. Pleeease.

― pplains, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 15:44 (five years ago) link

those computer processes in full

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--rqtwJreF--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/19052fq0upbxqgif.gif

― don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 17:09 (five years ago) link

seven months pass...

Your daily reminder that the Goodfellas painting was based on an actual photograph from the November 1978 issue of National Geographic. pic.twitter.com/Uajqsa4wUI
— JustinBrannan (@JustinBrannan) April 2, 2020

― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 4 April 2020 20:43 (four years ago) link

Whaddaya want from me?

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 4 April 2020 20:48 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

I've posted a couple of these movie-music Zooms I've been doing with a friend (we're getting close to 50, but I've tried to post sparingly). The first half of this one, and then the last 10 minutes, is on Goodfellas and Scorsese; there's 10 or 15 minutes on Jonathan Kaplan's Heart Like a Wheel in the middle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPW1RioUNko&list=PLa8ssW9Hiyic0Atijb9MO-itwoVAYq2tG&index=42

― clemenza, Thursday, 3 September 2020 02:32 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPW1RioUNko&list=PLa8ssW9Hiyic0Atijb9MO-itwoVAYq2tG&index=42

― clemenza, Thursday, 3 September 2020 02:32 (four years ago) link

Hmmnnn...need to figure this out.

― clemenza, Thursday, 3 September 2020 02:32 (four years ago) link

If this doesn't work, I give up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPW1RioUNkos

― clemenza, Thursday, 3 September 2020 02:34 (four years ago) link

I give up.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPW1RioUNko

― clemenza, Thursday, 3 September 2020 02:34 (four years ago) link

https://64.media.tumblr.com/bb6de095d85963b7f909aa76cc84ba71/7282df40199fe7b7-f7/s540x810/5e1d59b863fa2c6c654852329a39a39d277ef788.gifv

― pplains, Thursday, 3 September 2020 02:40 (four years ago) link

https://64.media.tumblr.com/911c0ad16c2b2abe3ef8d6070b271bc7/749082bcbbe3e1d1-40/s500x750/132cc560f58ac3205e68df5367ee07f8aff8beae.gifv

― pplains, Thursday, 3 September 2020 02:41 (four years ago) link

Links are preferable to embeds anyway IMO.

It's probably endlessly repeated but on the Talking Sopranos podcast Michael Imperioli was telling the story of how he was taken to the emergency room for a cut on his hand when filming the scene where Spider gets killed and the staff called "code blue" and were cutting his suit open to treat gunshot sounds.

― grebo shot first (Noel Emits), Thursday, 3 September 2020 06:40 (four years ago) link

*wounds!

― grebo shot first (Noel Emits), Thursday, 3 September 2020 06:40 (four years ago) link

Probably a post about this somewhere in here; the Glenn Kenny book came out today.

http://www.slantmagazine.com/books/review-glenn-kenny-made-men-the-story-of-goodfellas-is-a-stellar-anatomy-of-a-film/

― clemenza, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 02:51 (four years ago) link

Tfw I hit myself with a blast of drakkar noir pic.twitter.com/8GKaPxttPO
— Justin🌋Boldaji بلداجي (@justinboldaji) August 28, 2020

― pplains, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 03:07 (four years ago) link

More anniversary stuff (by the woman in the Paranoid Style, whose music I don't know).

http://www.theringer.com/movies/2020/9/17/21440328/goodfellas-30th-anniversary-layala-scene-scorsese-clapton

― clemenza, Thursday, 17 September 2020 19:07 (four years ago) link

Racing through the Glenn Kenny book...Confirming something I took notice of and always wondered about: at some point (Kenny doesn't know when), GoodFellas became Goodfellas. And at one point, somebody involved in the earliest stages wanted Tom Cruise and Madonna as the Hills.

― clemenza, Thursday, 24 September 2020 01:02 (four years ago) link

I think I read that on buzzfeed like five years ago.

― pplains, Thursday, 24 September 2020 01:59 (four years ago) link

News to me--and that Chuck Low once owned the building that Harvey Keitel, Lorraine Bracco, and De Niro all lived in. I didn't even know that Keitel and Bracco were married.

― clemenza, Thursday, 24 September 2020 02:08 (four years ago) link

I think having Morrie the wig salesman as your landlord would be quite an experience.

― clemenza, Thursday, 24 September 2020 02:13 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.bonappetit.com/story/history-gangsters-goodfellas-raos-restaurant

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 November 2021 00:59 (three years ago) link

Damn I need to get up there
Raos sauce is a favorite in my house

― calstars, Friday, 26 November 2021 01:42 (three years ago) link

six months pass...

https://deadline.com/2022/05/ray-liotta-dies-67-goodfellas-1235033521/

― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Thursday, 26 May 2022 16:19 (two years ago) link

I met Ray Lotta about 10 years ago, at the Aruba International Film Festival.

What follows is the story of the first time Ray Liotta watched Goodfellas since its premiere, which he didn’t remember. Halfway through principal photography, his mother died.
A short thread.
— Moisés Chiullán 肖振藩 (@moiseschiu) May 26, 2022

― piscesx, Saturday, 28 May 2022 11:19 (two years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/jun/06/martin-scorsese-ray-liotta-goodfellas-gangster-dangerous-disarming-innocent

― xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 June 2022 11:10 (two years ago) link

karen I’ve decided I should be on the pardon list, if that’s still in the works pic.twitter.com/G14RUKCGBr
— kilgore trout, death to putiner (@KT_So_It_Goes) June 17, 2022

― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 17 June 2022 18:44 (two years ago) link

A rep theatre close by is screening this three times in the next few days. "In memory of Ray Liotta"--I suspect it's more a case of "In memory of when people saw movies in theatres." I don't blame them at all.

https://www.hylandcinema.com/movie/goodfellas

― clemenza, Friday, 17 June 2022 18:51 (two years ago) link

eleven months pass...

https://i.imgur.com/h5kku1d.jpg

― calstars, Sunday, 11 June 2023 19:03 (one year ago) link

― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 11 June 2023 19:06 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Nothing like a long-time friend you share a private language with. My friend Peter signed off his latest email with "Pete the Killer (I took care of that thing for you)."

― clemenza, Tuesday, 10 October 2023 03:20 (one year ago) link

It's the thread revive we all hoped for!

― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 10 October 2023 18:45 (one year ago) link

Let me understand this, 'cause I...maybe it's me, maybe I'm a little fucked up maybe. Is that a putdown?

― clemenza, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 01:31 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Goodfellas sighting: The Office, S6, the episode about the insurance salesman: immediately recognized the salesman--and possible Mafia soldier--as Frenchy. ("Security? You're looking at it. It's a joke. I'm the midnight to eight man.") Mike Starr is the guy's name. Didn't realize he was also in Miller's Crossing--can't get an image to confirm, but I think he's the goon who feels so bad about having to pummel Gabriel Byrne in the warehouse.

― clemenza, Sunday, 14 January 2024 17:33 (eleven months ago) link

250 credits on him IMDB page!

― clemenza, Sunday, 14 January 2024 17:35 (eleven months ago) link

Mike Starr is the dude I used to confuse with Danny Aiello for years

― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Sunday, 14 January 2024 18:23 (eleven months ago) link

Starr's most indelible role obv

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cVlTeIATBs

― Number None, Sunday, 14 January 2024 18:32 (eleven months ago) link

knew before even seeing the video what it was gonna be lol

― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Sunday, 14 January 2024 18:46 (eleven months ago) link

Another one I now realize is him: Born on the Fourth of July, the guy in the bar who ridicules Cruise about his war experiences.

― clemenza, Sunday, 14 January 2024 19:16 (eleven months ago) link

There's actually quite a few points of similarity between "GoodFellas" and "Miller's Crossing":

- Gangster drama released in late September of 1990

- Gangsters all primarily delineated as Irish/Italian/Jewish

- Mike Starr as a character named "Frankie" and "Frenchie", two names that could both be considered slang for "Francophone"

- Irish protagonist with Jewish love interest

- Murder of a character known for his toupee

- "Oh Danny Boy" is heard, either sung or played on a Victrola

- Corpse left in wooded area, and later revisited by protagonist, who succumbs to vomiting

- Both Tom Regan and Lois insist on retrieving their forgotten hats

― Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 14 January 2024 21:13 (eleven months ago) link

six months pass...

A good read:

https://flaminghydra.com/issue-133/#goodfellas-in-the-theater

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 August 2024 21:48 (four months ago) link

three months pass...

The room they take Tommy into to be made/whacked has the worst fake wood paneling

― calstars, Saturday, 30 November 2024 04:22 (four weeks ago) link

imagine being completely unaware the last things you'll be seeing are that room!

― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 30 November 2024 04:56 (four weeks ago) link

Yeah. You notice some details and then zzz
Was DeSimone ever found?

― calstars, Saturday, 30 November 2024 05:18 (four weeks ago) link

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