Seattle! How is it now? Are there jobs? Should I move there?

Man, I feel ignored. Where has ILX gone?

i don't have any seattle advice, sorry.

i'm sorry that was all stupid and rambling, i had a bit to drink.

in every 'oh shit' scenario i see mentioned as 'likely' - another major stateside al qaeda attack, north korean nuke, peak oil crisis - seattle is usually mentioned as a place that's like to be sol.

Well, given that my other major option is Washington DC, my chances of not getting bombed AGAIN are prob still considerably better out west, right?

This will help me get started to help answer your questions...

I think I can deal with the weather. It's the snow and freezing cold up here that really gets me, but the worst of it is that I can't deal with having few/no friends and no comfy places to hang out once I leave the house. Seattle seemed to have those, I really did love the coffee shops. I have a couple of college friends out there who love it, and they can be kinda grumpy and complain a lot, so if they still love it after five years you know there's something good about the place.

And a good arts and music scene is something I care a lot about. As in, I'd like to go see punk rock bands and noise bands and small gallery shows and for people to be mostly chill and friendly. DC hasn't got much of that. Providence does, but I don't know anybody and never felt like I belonged here anyway so I kind of gave up.

As far as finding a place to live, the cost, etc. if what you're stating above is true about Providence rental prices, you'll be pleasantly surprised with Seattle's rental rates, which are -- and we're talking REALLY uber-hip locations in Capitol Hill which is as expensive as they get -- slightly less than that for a one bedroom. I'm paying just under $700 a month for a one bedroom in this micro-neighborhood just between Queen Anne and Fremont. BUYING here is definitely more expensive than renting.. but then again, I guess that's the case with RI too.

With the skills you have, you may find it frustrating to find a job immediately, but I think that's the case almost anywhere. The economy has certainly picked up here, especially office jobs, since about a year ago. Then again, rental rates have just begun to creep up.

The most important thing -- and you stated this -- is that you know people in town who you can hang out with as a starter for a social life here.. and your friends may talk about Seattle's rather high social insularity, which is true to some degree. On the other hand, Seattlites make a sport about bitching about their own city, too.

SO, given what you told me, if you visited and you like it here, and can deal with the weather, then I think it's a great idea for you to move here! I would save up some money though in the interim... worry less about finding a place, as that's not really that difficult, and worry more about biding your time frugally until you find at least a temporary job somewhere. You do have to live here first before you get a job here.

If you have any more questions.. shoot away!

that said, if you haven't visited Portland before, I'd also recommend visiting there as well -- if you can -- and if you have friends there as well. Some people feel more gravitated towards PDX than SEA, and the converse. Portland is definitely cheaper than Seattle, and it also has a strong arts scene, has plenty of cafes, great places to eat, shows, etc., but it's harder to find a job, too (currently).

Except for two months, I love the weather here. You never know until you try it for a full year, really -- but, I think anyone who's dealt with east coast weather can easily deal with Seattle. If my spoiled L.A. sunshine ass can enjoy it here for four years, I'm sure most can.. it's just the fear that keeps people from moving here -- my theory at least. (Then again, 90% of humanity sucks, so that's generally a good thing. I assume daria is in the 10% :) Not to say people don't get genuinely depressed dealing with the weather here, but I find the fear outweighs the ones who actually try it.)

How about NYC, or Baltimore?

Or San Francisco?

But I am admittedly projecting. And I have no problems with NYC and SF as cities, of course.

Also, while it's fun to get into the coffee/café thing in Seattle, it's totally overpriced and will make a dent into your budget if you indulge in high brow brev´s or lattés everyday. Make your own coffee at home. It's much much cheaper that way, and there's only about, oh, 100 types of coffee beans you can choose from practically any market nearby. Sure, having that leave-pattern latté on the weekend is a great kick, but everyday? nooooo.

Baltimore is fucking cool, but I always get crazy lost driving there and it's still real sketchy. The major problem with Bmore, NYC, and San Fran is that I don't really know anyone there. I'm not feeling at my most socially adept right now and I don't have the resources, uh, on a personal level, to pick up and completely start over - I left school not long ago and have been fairly miserable (deliberate understatement) and need a real serious change of scene. And I don't want to go back to careerist DC and pretend to be a careerist because before you know it I'll be trying to convince myself I should go to law school.

The two old friends I have in Seattle.. we go back about ten years. And I actually have relatives not too far away. I'm thinking Capitol Hill could be nice.

Oh, fuck, the radio station here in Prov is playing "Smells Like Teen Spirit." There should be a law..

If you have friends that go back 10 years, then that's a good sign.

And I'm sure the Seattle Crüe would cheerfully have a FAP in your honor upon your visit. :)

There are some non-career-y people in DC though, right? I don't know, my experiences on the West Coast are a bit weird, except for L.A., I tend to feel like I'm really far away from everything, but could just be I'm tied to the East Coast.

Unless you like the idea of being a poor student for another seven years plus, and can be incredibly disciplined and hard-working and unfazed in pursuit of your CLEARLY DEFINED professional goals by the indifference, pettiness, and/or hostility of others, all of whom have a lot more power than you. And by the way, there are almost no jobs. At all. They won't tell you that, because it's not in their interests to cut the pool of cheap graduate labor - who else is going to handle the workload for all those intro level undergrad courses? And did I mention everyone is miserable? And that if you're the one out of every, what, fifteen/twenty or so who actually finishes the PhD and lands the tenure-track job, you get to start all over at the bottom of the barrel and keep your mouth shut and jump through more hoops and tread carefully through vicious departmental politics over the most trivial of matters? Oh, and good luck leaving if you decide you want to, it's kind of like the Mafia that way and will be a lot more painful than you think.

Read this guy's columns in the Chron of Higher Ed. if you're thinking about it, particularly "Is graduate school a cult" and "So you want to go to graduate school."

The trouble is, you go in with this mentality of "yeah, I know it sucks and it's rough, but I CAN BEAT IT, I AM that one person who can come out ahead and land on the tenure track." I don't advise trying, I really don't. There's more to life than this! As for what happened with me personally, I hate writing papers, and I don't deal well with trying to manage a massive and intense workload with few/no guidelines, boundaries, or schedules anywhere. You start to feel like you don't exist after a while. Then I really started to get depressed. To which condition the institution says, meh.

a) where do you score your weed?
b) you work at Tully's, Laddro, or Vivace?
c) how many records have you pressed this week?
d) what web programming languages do you use?

I'm not sure what support from Microsoft could have done to change the opinion of some fucking Aberdeen-area Democrat fuckhead. (forgive me for being angry right now.)

However, the passing of this bill would have effectively forced more homophobe-run businesses in rural Washington to abide by the same standards... so this basically means that if you're gay and you live in a small crazily homophobic Washington state town, you'll still be denied a job or lease or house purchase by homophobic owners or employers, if they happen to care about that type of thing. Aside from maybe Hoquiam or Chehalis, I can't think of any town in western Washington that would discriminate against non-straights. Eastern Washington is a whole different bag, but I don't know too many gay friends of mine who would want to move to eastern Washington anyway.
And then again, loonies exist in their own creepy oases in the most liberal strongholds, too.

Ah shit, oh well, at least we didn't pass a law that bans gay couples from being able to be foster parents like Texas just did.

I'm seriously thinking of the move. Talked to the family tonight and couldn't quite bring myself to tell them! Perhaps the next step is to snag a cheap ticket from Southwest and scope it out. I also am kind of interested to hear that Cantwell's Senate race looks to be highly competitive in 06, and there's a big Seattle contingent with some fairly shrewd activists over at the Daily Kos (the dKos play by play on the battle over the governor's race was extraordinary - and I read about the Micro$oft thing over there too). So I could volunteer on some political campaigns when I'm not busy obsessing about music.

Til then, uh, stuck inside of RI with the DC blues again..

But Seattle has tons of lefty organizations, if that's what you feel comfortable doing. It's a potpourri of "commie" groups here. \

FEEL TEH LENIN!

(You can feel the statue, literally, if you visit Fremont)

..so perhaps you could come in and kick some ass in a similar group.. maybe in relation to the Cantwell reelection effort in '06. Washington state Democratic politicians really need to wake the fuck up and realize that they can't assume they'll get elected because "Seattle is big enough to elect me, so I don't need to try that hard."

haha i'm in DC and haven't had a job for six months

Donut's right, though, that for a long time there has been a sense of apathy in Seattle, a tendency taking things for granted. Traditionally, it's just not been a very "political" state. But that's changing out of neccesity, so it's an interesting time to be here.

As for the chances of the election getting overturned shrinking, well, the trial starts in May. We'll see what happens, but I'm not sure that time passing is making it any less likely; it just means I worry about it less.

Late to the thread here, but it's 74 and sunny here today, and there is NO BETTER PLACE TO BE.

Well, just because some spineless asshat manager at MS caves in to some local freaky preacher man, doesn't make Microsoft more "liberal" than Coors, necessarily. It's The Stranger's M.O. to make really shocking sensational headlines, and then have the story be far more detailed and less shocking than the headline.

I don't know how liberal or not Coors is.. but Microsoft hasn't stopped supporting same-sex/domestic partner benefits for its gay and lesbian full-time employees here. Microsoft basically did what any corporation these days would do when confronted by an angry mob of wacky fundamentalists: "OK, we'll pretend we're giving in to these wackos just to shut them up, even if it makes a few liberal wackos mad... the less trouble, the better". Capitalism has always bred this "neutral to the outside/progressive on the inside" standard in major corporations in western Washington state. It's been the M.O. for years. Had Washington Mutual been the target instead of Microsoft, they would have done the same thing, probably. Just wait a few months, now that the fundies "got their wish" and the gay civils right bill didn't pass, and all of this will be forgotten. Business as usual. :/

Trust me.. I thought it was an especially stupid thing for Smith to do myself -- especially, now that the Stranger has narrowed in on the large carcass to exploit it and give MS shit about it... and MS deserves it.

(p.s. Donut: I couldn't send you them akwid tracks I promised last night; will do sometime this weekend).

Grad school in the humanities: DONT GO. SERIOUSLY DONT GO. EVERYONE. IS. MISERABLE. & has Stockholm Syndrome.

Hehehe. I have to say when I left in 1996 I was glad never to have looked back.

In any case, Hutcherson said it wasn't the end of his efforts. Even though the bill failed yesterday, he plans to visit two other companies that endorsed it to express his displeasure. Hutcherson would not name the businesses. Companies that endorsed the bill include Boeing, Nike, Washington Mutual, Vulcan and Hewlett-Packard.

Great.

Another mini-sideshow surrounding the bill involved rumors that the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Seattle, which has opposed such bills for years, was neutral this year.

Interesting.

Anyway, sorry for polluting Daria's thread with this gar-bahge.

i guess what bugs me is that i feel a church should have more class... a converted retail store doesn't really set the right vibe for eternal salvation. some of these big suburban joints are hard to distinguish from targets or wal-marts, at least from a distance

!!!

I must know who this is

Also, welcome to Seattle!

I wouldn't call anything west of 12th the pit of despair, but you are in highly-overpriced territory. Anything between 13th and 19th is probably a little nicer and cheaper actually.

Also, don't be afraid to go south of Pike St. Some friends of mine are super happy to have found a place around 17th and Union. (They moved from Austin, and apparently they bringing tons of their friends along to move here as well... which isn't surprising, given both are both smallish, centralized, tech-y cities... surely the same is happening with PDX as well.)

If you don't smoke, don't have pets, and don't mind a carpeted pad, your task will be a gazillion times easier to find a one-bedroom rental, speaking from experience.

the advice to walk and look around is the best thing mentioned on this thread. a great apartment next to my house sat open for 6 months because all the (lazy) landlords did was put a sign up on one utility pole.

As for a fap, it'd be fun to have one outside. play ping pong or croquet and drinkdrinkdrink. We must welcome A Lingbert!

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!!!

We have a croquet set in storage over there, and will gladly contribute food, booze, and cleanup labor.

Can you get those hats from Ebbets Field Flannels? I know they still make the Rainers one. But those Pilots caps are amazing!

Matos - so so otm.

I used to live in a big old haunted house in Madrona, but it's been years since I've been back. It'll be nice to be back.

Lots of great suggestions. I was only in Seattle for about 2 days last month, so I obviously didn't get to see everything, and my impressions of the areas are fairly vague. I decided on Captol Hill as my first choice based on some positive things I'd heard/read about it and the little of it that I saw. What sold me (at the time, anyway), I think, was the neighborhood leading down to Washington Park (I'm pretty sure I have my geography straight here, but maybe not). It looked so pleasant and green, but maybe that's a super-expensive area that I won't be able to afford anyway.

I thought Ballard was a nice area, but maybe a little far from things and maybe a little too tranquil. I liked Fremont a lot, but it seemed like a place to visit rather than live in. Upper Queen Anne seemed generally uninteresting and overpriced (though nice views, of course), but I'll definitely have to give Lower Queen Anne a good look. I don't know if I saw much of Belltown or Wallingford at all.

I'm also thinking I might have to finally break down and get a cell phone. If I'm going to be wandering around most of the time when I get there, I don't want to miss any calls from prospective rentals. 28 years I've avoided having one, but I suppose maybe it's time. Where does someone even shop for cell phones? Malls? My friend says he likes Sprint. I guess they have Sprint stores, don't they?

But yeah, I'd totally be down to FAP should one materialize.

I mean, the Funhouse, Seattle Center, Larry's, Easy Street, Pagliacci, Racha, Roti, Blue Water Grill, Mirabeau, Ladro, post office, Bamboo Garden, McMennamins, more thai... all within easy walking distance. I don't think Hollywood allows for this many places to be this walkable from one place -- having grown up in west part of L.A.

Then again, you said you'd rather visit than live there, and that's a very fair assessment of Fremont.. especially now. (I'm just riding out the construction issues)

yeah, a bad example wrt walkability, but it seemed to fit in the sense that it's filled with a fair amount of cool commercial places, but also felt a bit empty. my impression might well be unfair - i only spent a little time in a little stretch of it.

Anyway, I signed the lease on a place in Lower Queen Anne yesterday. I found looking for a place to be extremely frustrating, and so when I came across this place, I just said fuck it and signed. I was able to talk them down to a 9 month lease, and it's fairly cheap (also small. 300 sq ft studio, and it has a gorgeous sidewalk-level view), and the neighborhood does seem cool. I'm only a few blocks NW of the main area. I figure I'll use the 9 months to get a better feel of the city and find a better place then. No big deal (though I'm kinda bummed because I got a call from a place I liked better later that night, but by then it was too late. Alas).

So yeah, thanks for all the tips everyone. I move in next weekend. Tomorrow I start job hunting. I'm looking for something temporary until I finish my EMT stuff in December, so maybe I'll try and hit up one of the neighborhood places. I'm going to talk with a temp agency tomorrow hopefully, too.

Also, Seattle is confusing as hell to drive in.

Also, the downtown library is the coolest library ever.

Very true. When I moved there, I wanted to be sure to live in sight of the Space Needle, so I'd have a landmark to find my way home. Also, lower QA is where the differing grids of the two guys who laid out the city meet up in chaos. (Arthur Denny and Doc somebody - read Sons of the Profits for enlightenment; v. funny esp. the rivalry between Tacoma and Seattle.)

Went to the Japanese Garden today. It's nice, but I really really really really wish it wasn't right next to a busy street (Lake Washington Blvd?). The traffic noise ruins the ambience.

I briefly drove through (and stopped a couple times) the Washington Park Arboretum. It manages to be just far enough away from the busy street that the traffic noise subsides to a dull roar and you can actually hear the animals and the wind. I'm looking forward to going back and spending more time there.

Has anyone been to the Hoh Rain Forest? Once I get settled in, that's at the top of my to do list. Should I be as excited about seeing it as I am?

That book was written by the guy who originally started the Underground Tour, whose name has completely escaped me. Bill something or other.

Yeah, there's no way to avoid that initial "GAWD I HATING DRIVING IN THIS FUCKING CITY!" breaking-in period... but it does go away once you find ways to maneuver around the streets that don't end prematurely, get collided into 5+-way intersections, or get confused with the whole directional suffix. (i.e. Denny Way, Boren Ave, Westlake Ave., Taylor Ave., Hwy 99/Aurora, etc. -- ok Westlake becomes Nickerson St. just south of Fremont, but the street swerved to become east-west so that makes some sense at least).

The worst thing is trying to get to the other side of Aurora Expressway, and the sad truth is.. you just have to know which streets go underneath or over it, and which streets don't -- the hard way.. since that cement center divider knows no exceptions (south of Winona Ave. that is.)

also, psst... Mt. Rainier

The Hoh is awesome! I drove over that way initially to see what a town named Humptulips would be like, but hiking in the rainforest was the best. Once when we were there in November, a herd of elk were munching away right next to the trail. Also, in the spring I've seen families of river otter playing. Another cool thing to do on the peninsula is the ocean beaches - all kinds of tide pools - and the hot springs at Sol Duc.
I'm there, maan.

What is this "Mt. Rainier" you speak of, gabbneb? Is this some obscure local attraction?

And if you haven't noticed, Seattle drivers are.. ur.. bad. But they're very polite and slow bad drivers, so you can see the dumb thing a driver is going to do 5 seconds ahead, allowing you to roll your eyes, and just slow down and/or maneuver around him or her.

The one time I was in Seattle was during the grand opening shindig, and it was pretty cool. But man, is that place going to look dated in 20 years.

I'm moving to eastern Washington in a week, so I'm probably going to get to Seattle more often now as it will be the closest "real" city. Spokane is big-ish compared to whare I'm from and where I'll be, but it dosen't quite cut it.

haha I was pleasantly surprised to discover that the "STOP FOR ME IT'S THE CLAW" sign that someone posted on another thread is right here in Seattle.

The downtown library looks kinda dated now, actually, but it's still cool. Though maybe I'm still in the passionate beginning phase of the relationship where everything is lovey-dovey and wonderful and the sex is fantastic, but soon the novelty will wear off.

our library in a scene from battlestar galactica: http://www.kriskrug.com/images/vancouver-library-battlestar-galactica.jpg

i was just in seattle briefly to tour the U-W campus' student union building in advance of a similar project at SFU. how does the university district fit into the city as a whole, culturally? both of vancouver's universities are relatively quite isolated from the city centre.

sorry to derail the thread. i'm just trying to prompt some similar photos of the seattle library.

(i assume, minus a dot, that's your email?)

The U-district is certainly in a corner of the city that many can easily avoid if they want to, however, it's really easy to bus to from any central neighborhood in Seattle, really. If you have to try and map central Seattle as a square, the U-district would easily be the NE point of that square... it's not "way the fuck out" there, comparatively speaking, i.e. it's NOT like UBC where it's this place hidden and tucked away west of a mini-forest that separates it from Kitsilano.

That said, UBC is a beautiful campus in a beautiful spot.. and the isolation does give it part of its charm.

True story: One night about 11:30 p.m.--a weeknight--on Capitol Hill, I was headed to Chop Suey for a show. No traffic, except one car coming from my left. I was about to jay walk and decided, sensibly, to wait for the car to pass. The driver stopped in the middle of the block and waved me across. It's like, "You idiot, I'm waiting for YOU. YOU'RE the one with the 2,000-pound piece of metal that could crush me. GO!"

I really love the U District, one of the places in the city that's retained its funkiness, and especially enjoyable once you're immune to spare-changers, as I've been for a while now. (Though once I did get heckled by a couple spare-changers in Belltown, which was interesting.)

Is it like New York's?

Fugghedaboutit.

It is like Robson St in downtown Vancouver?

Uh, no.

Does it have a lot of cool shops that people gloss over and don't realize exist because people think Capitol Hill is the Soho of Seattle when in fact it's really the fringe art retail neighborhood moreso than anything else?

Definitely.

"Boy, I wish Nellie hadn't gathered me those sad looking shoes from the Avenue :( "

btw, the U district was a huge part of our life over there - I love the Neptune and the Varsity theaters, the U bookstore, etc etc etc. Also, theater productions at the U, Trader Joe's, Go Center, varied restaurants and other shopping.

I even mentioned you there. :)

SEATTLE CROQUET FAP

Jaq and I decided that this coming Sunday (8/20) would work best for both of us. We're calling it 2 p.m. My house. Email me for directions: jergins at gmail dot com. Easy bus access to Phinney ridge.

There will be: food, beer, rum, croquet, music. Who's in? What else?

In case ILX suffers a worse shutdown soon, I will then have everyone's contact info in some form or another for tMG Easy Street FAP thing.. as well as the Sunday Croquet thing.

I won't be here often, due to ILX wonkiness... so contact me! I can be reached at macro at either myspace or 43people dot com, and put a "k" between the "c" and "r". Then I'll tell you my email address.

OK!

Croquet! That's me playing in Madison Park. Sadly I can't make croquet on Sunday but I will see you guys Monday night

Jaq?

I'm taking your mom and stepdad out for all night ravin at Decibel Festival. They won't need to sleep.

PLUR, HEH HEH HEH!

We're in town to house-hunt that weekend (I start work on 9/25, otherwise I'd join the dow nut for that all night ravin...)

PLUR, HEH HEH HEH!

Dude, my mom and stepdad are total e-tards!% Everytime I go to their place, it's like "No, Mom, I don't want see how amazing the door mat feels when you're barefoot."

Thanks for the suggestions guys. A fount of Seattle wisdom you are.

It wasn't too bad. It was functional. It served its purpose. No bugs or anything. They didn't have any major complaints. You could hear with little effort the guy next door because the rooms have a connecting door, and the walls were pretty thin. Also, the entire perimeter of the connecting door was sealed with masking tape. I can't imagine this was a security measure. Maybe it's to keep out smoke? Either way, it looked classy. Also, no outlet in the bathroom.

Too bad I could never afford to buy a house there. Holy crap. Who's got that kind of loot?

Ned, I'm currently somewhere near your town I believe - working 7 days a week though at the Frank Bowerman landfill in Bee Canyon (Irvine?) so I doubt our paths will cross this trip. Hopefully things will be less frantic when I'm back in late Oct/early Nov.

jaq i love how you post on a seattle thread knowing ned will read it

please tell me Bow/Edison, please.

Jaq, the 7 bus runs in Othello 7 days a week I think... maybe not as close as the 48 would. Don't know your exact location though.

I should be up for a Saturday morning/day thing.

So, beer battered waffles?

jaq i love how you post on a seattle thread knowing ned will read it

Ned is everywhere :) Shelve by color! Shelve by height! Shelve by the third letter of the author's first name! Each set of shelves can have its own theme. There are over 100 banker boxes full of books; plenty to play with. Mr. Jaq is more particular about the records.

Woodinville.

NO
EXCUSES

WAFFLES, BEER, AND UNPACKING *SMACK*

Woodinville.

the first time i ever heard rem and dead kennedys was in woodinville, skating at my friend's house. so big ups to you and your suburb! now come to a fap!

i don't think i'd touch his records without expressed written consent:)

Crunchy?

Beer waffles = completely do-able. Also, waffles with bacon built in for the meativores.

Matmos is also playing a free instore at Easy Street records at 3pm on Sunday.

I am still available the morning of the 21st to help with the moving stuff... and for the waffle beers.

Also, we should all take this to e-mail. I'll be off ilx very soon, but I want to keep in touch with you guys.

eh?

One of the things I woke up the next morning so happy about was thinking of Jaq and Donut and what they brought to the party. Getting to know someone through here, you learn their interests pretty early on: Jaq cooks, Donut spins records. But even if I were writing in 24-point caps, it still wouldn't convey how well Jaq can cook, how great Donut's track-selection was, how fun his 2-3 a.m. slot, in the basement was. ILXors can do stuff! Do it well!

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boys plus sparks light

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note the repetition

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dance scene

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srsly, thanks jaq and donut and other djs and everyone.

best. party. ever.

btw, any ILXors in town for that needing a place to stay, we've got a room you're welcome to, though we are rather far from Seattle Center.

lingbert: lololololololllll

Didn't Lingbert have special ringer-istic croquet-winning powers?

To say that the old guy was "unknown" isn't totally accurate. We know his first name and that he was the father of one of the other partygoers, a partygoer who I think one other person actually knew before the party started. I just thought it was weird that the guy would bring his dad to the party.

he was brought to the party by an Unknown Party-Goer who was invited by a Known Party-Goer. this person (the Known Party-Goer), who is known at least by reputation to a number of Party-Goers and is, in fact, related to one of the Party Hosts, is responsible for bringing the oddest party guest (Pat the Dad) and, i'm told, the most annoying party guest (The Animator aka The Talker). the Known Party-Goer will be forgiven. at least she did not bring John Tesh, Jr. this time.

Lingbert: please download or cue up The Frogs 'I've Got Drugs (Out of the Mist).' It is officially our song now.

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If you take the bus, the closest stop is probably at 3rd & Pine. ($2.50/round trip for bus)

Bunch of buses will get you there, too, but none quite as close. And welcome to town! Don't get any rain on you. Ha ha. Because we have rain here sometimes.

P.S. Don't read this post if you've already read Jaq's post. That one is better. Oops you already read it. Sucks.

Be prepared: 15,000 librarians will be infiltrating yr city.

It's not a terrible walk to the monorail from the Hampton, straight south on 5th toward EMP, veer southwest through Fun Forest.

Seattle's wall-to-wall with good food. Kinda depends on what you want.

The lower QA neighborhood has many yummy restaurants: Roti for indian, Racha for Thai, Sam's Sushi, Floyd's BarBQ (w/dancing cow and pig over door) for carnivorous delights, many others. Also, the Uptown movie theater, Easy Street records. It is a great neighborhood!

I am very much into carnivorous delights and rekkid shopping! Also, if there are any good shows playing, that'd be exceptionally wonderful.

cheap eats/takeout/bakeries - Salumi, Racha, Thai Tom, Dahlia Bakery, The Boulangerie, Top Pot, Agua Verde, El Puerco Lloron, Procopio, Piroshky-Piroshky

Be prepared: 15,000 librarians will be infiltrating yr city.

nerdy girls from out of town, I LUVV UUUUUU.

for Lingbert: the guy who wrote Everything I Needed To Know I Learned In Kindergarten goes there daily.

also add to cheap eats - Macrina Bakery, Paseo, Gelatiamo, and Turntable at the Experience Music Project

more cheap or semi-cheap eats - Cafe Paloma, Pan Africa Market, Copacabana

I'll stop now

CROQUET FAP II is on

Saturday June 30th, 4:00 p.m.
Lxy's yard, same as last time

Croquet
Drinks and food
post-game downstairs drunken dance music

Bring food and drinks. There's also a grocery store up the street. Email me if you need directions or information or whatever: jergins at gmail dot com. Lurker, you should come.

Rain or shine.

YES! Mallet in one hand, drink in the other. Such a fine time.

you were the epitome of style last time. we all followed your lead: "oh, that's how you do it...you can drink and play at the same time!"

jaq is always the epitome of style.

Hey, if anyone's interested, Matos and a bunch of others will be celebrating my birthday with me on Saturday at the Canterbury, starting at 8.

Is it this Friday for the Sign O' the Times film? I want to see that.

Rrrrricky! Another gemini! See you Saturday!

^^^^^^^^^^
e

Good God, the Canterbury! I was the bartender there, ages ago. it's haunted. it really is!

Their ghost makes a mean grilled cheese, let me tell you! :)

Ned, when are you coming to Seattle this summer? It seems like every time we plan a FAP you're arriving three weeks before or three weeks after.

I'm going to make that amazing vegan eggplant/mushroom chili experiment for CFAPII - it will make a great dip.

!!!

I'll be plotting my cooking for the next week, at least :)

should i move to seattle y/n

YYY

http://www.shunrize.com/page12/page9/files/greys-anatomy.jpg

i don't think i'll get in to UW med school :-/

but my best pals might be moving there if they got jobs, so maybe if i move i can impress admissions ppl with my earnest desire to live in the NW

j/k that'll never happen ;_1

http://www.booksamillion.com/bam/covers/0/76/241/255/0762412550.jpg

fellate someone riverwolf

Ned, when are you coming to Seattle this summer? It seems like every time we plan a FAP you're arriving three weeks before or three weeks after.

Yeah, what days? I'm in Seattle roughly July 21st - August 4thish this summer, tell me it overlaps!

i don't even know who to blowjob!

the croquet course:

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Jaq: hahahahaha on "e"! When's your birthday?

Thanks for the record, too, again (you and Robert). So fine. I played it today. Rock!

Ha! Mine's the same as Joan Collin's apparently (5/23). So good to see you Saturday!

Ay, when/where is this?

our house, june 30. i'll email you (and note to self, zora)

Oh, good. That's three weekends. I have plans for the next two. Excellent, really.

I should wear my ugly golf shorts. It seems fitting.

we should all wear ugly golf shorts.

Thanks for thinking of me. My correct email is without the bit about having spam for tea in it, by the way!

I fly out to Seattle on Friday, I'm really looking forward to it!

Zora I sent you a webmail through ILX. let me know if you didn't get it or drop me a line: jergins at gmail dot com

the Reverened: webmailed
Donut: gmailed

who am i forgetting?

Scott CE - Mr. Jaq saw him last week at the Prince movie. Morley Timmons - maybe Donut can contact, or wait I think she's in that googlegroup thing.

Zora, I webmailed you too. Have a safe trip!

I got and answered both your emails. Thanks guys! I'll come to croquet FAP as long as the course organisers don't spring anything on us for that Saturday. It'll be great to see a bit more of Seattle than the campus and to meet some ILXors.

i wish you didn't have to have a gmail account to join that google groups thing.

You don't! At least, I don't. I had to make a google account, but not gmail.

Zora, if you end up with a free evening at some other point during your stay, shout out and we'll all convene for a "Zora's in town!" FAP.

i wish you didn't have to have a gmail account to join that google groups thing.

d00d! You're in there w/o a gmail. wtf!? ur makin mah head hurt.

as long as the course organisers don't spring anything on us

i read 'course organizers' as 'croquet course organizers'. haha, it's a wacky course but not a reason not to come!

Hotmail Lingbert plz to enter 21st century.

we'll all convene for a "Zora's in town!" FAP

this would be great

IT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED: post game tag-team downstairs DJ action with me and Donut.

Hotmail Lingbert plz to enter 21st century.
Google does not own me

d00d! You're in there w/o a gmail. wtf!? ur makin mah head hurt.
i don't know what's going on or who i am anymore. what is this "jaq"?

IT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED: post game tag-team downstairs DJ action with me and Donut.

HURRAY!!! YIPPEE!!!

if anyone can't make it for the afternoon croquet business, please do consider coming for the dance party. these are 2 excellent DJs, and this is going to be such great fun!!

but really you should cancel any other plans and come for all.

we need to have an ILX field trip:

http://www.roxycinema.com/Seattle_default.htm

oh WOOT!!!

lingbert, you are working too hard I think. Have you been rainforesting yet? We spotted the hostel over there, it is very rainbow tie-dyed granola, but would be an excellent place to stay for trips to beaches and Hoh.

(woot wz for djs)

Bollywood @ Totem Lake = awesome! I have to find out when Killer of Sheep is at NWFF though, Mr. Jaq wants to see that.

bollywood night out in the suburbs how great will that be

awesome lingpix of coast

AER LINGBERT

jergins, you know all the best threads :)

CROQUET FAP II is so on, this Saturday

my friend j0sh r0b3rts is going to spin some records too, like the last fap

and we're going to try to set up a second croquet course, in case there are more than six people who want to play at a time.

you know when you get those great ideas in the middle of the night and then you wake up and they're not so great? well, i'm still with this one: set up the courses side by side, like one wicket next to the other:
_ _
/ \ / \

HURRAY FOR TWO CROQUET COURSES!
HURRAY FOR THREE DJS!

zora, are you here now? how's it going? are you coming to the party?

seattle ILXors, all y'all come, okay? it's going be such good fun!

portlanders? you come, too!
vancouverites? why not?
west coast: we want you!!
the country, the world: all are welcome!

lxy otm

haha i knew formatting would mess up my beautiful wicket ascii

We could always have a single course but tons of people playing on it, as long as people remember which is their ball and whose turn it is (but well people forget that anyway).

I started cooking last night for this :)

I am picturing mad croquet like Desktop Tower Defense IRL!

jergins, what would be the advantage of having two courses side by side?

Tears before sundown.

i was just thinking of ways that more people could play at once. we've considered the other side yard but there are all those prickly bushes on that side. we can all get out in the backyard and figure it out. that'll be fun

DANCING before sundown is what i'm saying.

side by side courses is a dumb idea now that i think about it because what if you hit someone's ball from the other game?

Riot in the side yard!

Croquet FAP II: Riot In The Side Yard

ATTN: rioters will have to play on the thorny side of the yard.

(you guys, don't scare zora!)

And if it rains - indoor beer bottle bowling!

or if it rains, dancing starts early!

or if it rains we play in the rain. who are we if we can't play in the rain? this is our town.

croquet fap II: 40 awesome people, one toilet

(and the yard for the dudes)

Hello!

Don't worry, I am not easily frightened. Did you get my email? If it's ok with you I'll bring a couple of Clarion West buddies, they can drive me and can therefore provide backup and /or an escape vehicle should it turn out there is reason for fear! ;)

I've been in Seattle a week and a half now but hardly managed to venture out of the sorority house we're living in. We have classes here and then we write, critique, write some more... decompression basically involves yacking at each other about narrative arcs, or gender & identity in online gaming, or Paris Hilton, y'know. It turns out SF writers are just people. They are keeping us damn busy though.

I'm liking the changeable weather, it's a lot like home only warmer on the wet days. There seems to be a good selection of restaurants around the university district, we've had a couple of lunches out. Generally though, they feed us, and that is very nice.

I've ventured outside the U district four times; once for the Locus Awards at the Marriott Courtyard, once for Nancy Kress (who tutored us our first week) reading at the SFM, once to go look round the SFM itself, which was kinda pricy for what you get but gave me a story idea I'm writing up at the moment. Finding out where to catch the bus back here took longer than going round the museum but it's all good. Action. Adventure. Last Friday we went to a party in a posh house on 10th. I don't feel like I've even scratched the surface of Seattle yet.

OMG NANCY KRESS!!!!! </fangirl>

If you get a chance to eat at Thai Tom, really you should. It's just up the street from Twice-Sold Tales (which is just up the street from the University Bookstore).

Yay Saturday! C'mon Friday, be OVER!

r0z i emailed you.

yes this day needs to be over. except there's still a lot to do

Hmm, I should probably show for this.

yeah, come. i sent you an invite by webmail.

yes, please do! everyone should come!

lingy will u wear short shorts for the croquet

will you provide sunglasses so that people won't be blinded by my legs

oh SHORT shorts.

no.

ugly golf shorts?

course preview final chance want to make it fair for everyone

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hahahaha was that croquet party invitation an ILX meetup? I had no idea who it was from!! Sense is being made now. I work on Saturdays though, so attempt to have fun without me.

hihi

party will go late. come after work.

now that's a Seattle yard

It makes a wicked croquet course, esp. the front yard which not only has a steep slope to the street, it's on an even steeper street which leads straight down to Green Lake :)

I am all cooked out I think. Spicy eggplant/mushroom/bean dip, not spicy bean dip, midwest tabbouli, double batch of brownies. Mr. Jaq grilled up a couple dozen brats. Hopefully enough fuel to keep us going into the wee dancing hours.

lxy and jergins, you guys are the best! Thanks for yet another great time, and if you need help cleaning up today, call me and I will be there.

One fave moment: K in the kitchen, mourning "The Mt. Gay is GONE!" Also, that astounding croquet shot by Dave from Zora's posse; the man was in total command!

ps. this thread title should be changed to Seattle! How is it now? Are there parties? Should I FAP there?

you guys, that was awesome! Thanks again for having us (and providing my first croquet experience).

thanks for coming over, you guys. it WAS really fun. and the house isn't in too bad of shape. you know what i loved? that there were so many ilxors here and you all were the ones that danced, played, hung out, chatted it up. my irl friends didn't really keep up. the ilxor constitution is a hearty one.

i forgot that socializing with large groups of people can be fun. A+ would go again

What did I miss after I left?

Also, nice meeting everyone I hadn't met yet.

Great party, many thanks, but..........

Everyone except for me & J1ll are MAD RONG for not wearing ugly golf shorts! (Although at least a couple people insisted my golf shorts weren't ugly enough, but harrumph to that.)

Who is lxy? Did I meet you?

Jergins, did I hear a song during your set about "going down on a girl who looks like me," or was I just drunk?

Thanks, by the way. We need to get everyone together on Capitol Hill soon.

both drunk and yes, that was r kelly: "I always wanted to go down on a girl who reminds me of me."

capitol hill, yes.

lxy was our hostess, in the red check shirt and black shorts.

thanks for coming, everybody! next time i actually need to play some croquet.

Oh, alright! Lxy and Jergins, thank you so much! A toast to them and to our awesome djs!

jergins, better you than me @ the croquet. I rather drink and watch the chaos. Also, RAH Reverend, for the plaid shorts and WINNING the 1st round!

Ha! Is that on the new R.? I own it, but often listen to it from the other room, so haven't mastered all the lyrics yet. I loved your set, by the way. Did Brian spin again? I wish I hadn't had to leave.

thanks. yeah, he played for a while longer and our friend josh played, too. at that point i was too drunk to figure out what was going on. i couldn't find my camera or my drink so i passed out. starting early always gets me.

thanks again people we rocked some shit

Oh damn, that song's on that Ludacris album with my current fave "Slap."

Does anyone have photographic evidence the fete?

I know someone was taking pictures of hot croquet action but I dunno if it was an ILXor.

Hey guys!

Thanks so much from me and the 'posse'! You made us so welcome. Dave is very pleased to have become famous for his (fluky) croquet shots.

We had a super time, the food was A+, and it was great to drift from conversation to conversation listening to people's music talk. Very sorry to have missed all the dancing.

They're keeping us pretty busy here still, but it would be cool to see you guys again before I go back to Blighty - will email if it looks at all possible.

Thanks again, you guys rock.

it would be cool to see you guys again before I go back to Blighty - will email if it looks at all possible.

let us know

and i guess "will email if it looks at all possible." = you will let us know, so yeah

Only move here if

1) You aren't planning to drive a car
2) You don't mind taking the bus or biking
3) You will move to a spot near your job rather than commuting
4) You aren't one of those idiots who has a gas guzzling SUV. If so, you deserve to die and I don't care whether you have kids or not. GLOBAL WARMING DUMBASSES.

Chill dude, sometimes it's just people heading from California/Oregon up to visit Vancouver BC. But may I add:

5) If, when you do drive, you are extremely deferential to pedestrians and bicyclists
6) If you are wont to drive under the speed limit in the fast or commuter lane on the freeway when you do drive
7) If you think it's charming when your vehicle sprouts moss

I have an interview with Seattle Public Library, but I have to pay my way out there. Pros/cons of living on the Pacific NW versus the East Coast?

Bigger mountains
Pods of orcas
Better local wines
More temperate weather

friends,

apparently it has taken me a full week to recover from last saturday's do.

so. thanks to all who came and played and danced and talked and ate, and who brought food and drink and chairs and croquet sets and turntables and records and friends and babies. what a lovely crowd!

jaq and mr. jaq, thank you for co-hosting. you guys are awesome.

and especial thanks to our fine DJs, donut, j0sh, and jergins. basement dance party = yes.

zora, we would love to see you -- and your posse -- again. i hope things have settled down over there at melrose place, and that you are enjoying your busy time and doing good work.

there are pictures from the event somewhere; we'll get them up before long.

virginia plain: this is pro.

virginia plain: this is pro

true, an especially fun group is pre-assembled here!

Additional bonus plus: no state income tax

Also, VP I sent you a webmail as my connection was crashing, let me know if it showed up.

Yeah! Hurray for regressive tax schemes that place greater burden on the poor!

you know how sometimes weird stuff gets left behind at a party? the next day we found

LUSH silky underwear dusting powder :)

(yes, with a smiley face)

i dare whoever left it to post on this thread and fess up.

also found: an earring. in the toilet. we know who that belongs to, though. a non-ILXor who doesn't hold the liquor as well as us tough ones all up here in the boards.

Ouch. Did you rescue the toilet earing?

Uh. This is really embarrassing but... I think the body powder is mine.

Sorry, dudes.

will mail it. pm your address

Pls address to Jon Williams, McKitten lofts, the Lyn of Brook.

sent

body powder lol

Ouch. Did you rescue the toilet earing?

yes i did! plunged my hand right in there. on account of it was apparently just gonna sit there till someone did something. and on account of she was a nice girl who was just a little bit out of her element. i'm nice like that.

lxy, you are too good to all your guests!

Hey all you Seattle people who loved Housekeeping and Gilead, Marilynne Robinson is giving a free public lecture at 7 pm on 8/15 at the Henry. Mark your calendars now!

y'all will be happy to know that the owner of the panty powder has revealed himself to me by telephone.

sorry, laurel :( you'll have to buy your own.

xp thanx jaq. you are v sweet.

Marilynne Robinson is giving a free public lecture at 7 pm on 8/15 at the Henry

this whole series is pretty amazing. they're bringing in writers who have written about the northwest or used it as a setting. the writer comes into a UW class (that my stepdad's teaching, which is why I know about it) and then give a public lecture later in the afternoon or evening. Lx link?

Somehow I will stagger onward into my powder-less future. Thanks for trying!

y'all will be happy to know that the owner of the panty powder has revealed himself to me by telephone.

haha i just couldn't hold the secret in any longer. you have no idea hard it was to keep a straight face when you first showed it to me!!

article about the awesome class and lecture series mentioned above

lolbert

He was my first guess, actually :D

Lxy, which girl was that?

himself!

not an ILXor.

the same guy who got his lube taken away by the TSA

hay guise musical guest Minnie Driver at Freeway Park FAP??

ooh, twist my arm! That's right by my house, too!

Freeway Park is a neat little place. I really like the canyon.

also, there are several movies being shown outdoors this summer:

Movies

Center City Cinema Outdoor Movies in the Park.
All movies begin at sunset.
July 21: Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire - Occidental Square
August 4: Jet Li's Fearless - Hing Hay Park
August 11: In the Mood for Love - Hing Hay Park
August 18: Monsoon Wedding - Hing Hay Park
August 25: SteamBoy - Hing Hay Park
Sept. 6: Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - Occidental Square
Sept. 13: Lord of the Rings: The Twin Towers - Occidental Square
Sept. 20: Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King - Occidental Square

The only two I can and/or want to see are In The Mood For Love and Monsoon Wedding.

we are totally going to In The Mood For Love

also c/d heckling minnie driver?

wtf is steam boy? (i know, imdb, but lingy u are so much more interesting than a database)

it's anime. i had never heard of it. had to look at imdb. it doesn't look interesting, but maybe someone has seen it and can tell me otherwise.

Dud.
But FAP at noon on a weekday? ClassiC! (--jill btw)

I feel a Friday off coming up. Haha, the higgs! - I thought you were gonna make us all guess when you jumped in here :)

btw, Monsoon Wedding - not yr typical bollywood (not enough musical numbers, only 2 hrs long), but quite fun.

lingbert u are my database. may i never overwrite u

hai guyz I have been trying to listen to Minnie Driver today and that is some Sarah McLachlan-esk stuff, over and over and over and over and over. The Chemical Brothers are routing it out of my brane now.

the heckling begins!

http://www.oxfam.org.uk/generationwhy/do_something/campaigns/maketradefair/celebrities/minnie_driver/header/header.jpg "Did me voice do that?" http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2007/04/30/0430webstory_bridge2.jpg

FREEWAY PARK FAP: minnie driver kills us all

btw i was joking about the minnie driver fap at first, but now that i think about it, it could actually be fun. i have to work that day though.

also, i think i'll probably go see jet li's fearless too

"joking"

I tried to convince Mr. Jaq with the "she's hawt!" argument, but he wasn't swayed.

maybe you could try:

"But Mr. Jaq, there will be heckling!"

Forgive my ignorance, but who is Minnie Driver? (Not that it matters, as I'll be in SF that weekend.)

Where to begin. She was in Grosse Point Blank and Good Will Hunting.

and where it will end we already know

I watch almost zero movies.

More outdoor movie fun: Havana is one of my favorit bars in town, mostly for the secretive entrance and nice dance floor. But now they're going to do movies outside, on Wednesdays, and you can drink out there too. The list (oh yeah now with added DJs):

Wednesday, July 25 — SCARFACE (1983) with Soul One

Wednesday, August 1 — DOGTOWN AND Z BOYS (2001) with Sean Cee

Wednesday, August 8 — XANADU (1980) with El Toro

Wednesday, August 15 — BLOWUP (1966) with DJs of the Emerald City Soul Club

Wednesday, August 22 — GOODFELLAS (1990) with Cherry Canoe and very special guests

BLOW UP is my pick of the bunch, if i don't see it at the Varsity next week.

och!--this is looking much better
can walk there, drink outside, not miss work to see mr. jaq-hated minnie driver AND ECSC on possibly/probably decent sound system

Free music/spoken word marathon tomorrow: http://gschapel.blogspot.com

i think i want to go to some of this. Free is important

Yeah, me too - Stewart Dempster, Amy Denio, and the group w/ Joshua Roman (23 y.o. principle cellist from the symphony - he has great hair) esp.

who is going to see daft punk

YEP :D

Jaq, we went to some of the festival of wayward music today. what a great room the chapel performance space is. we stayed for about an hour and soaked in the ambient and avant garde tones. you'll never guess who was there. A BUNCH OF OLD PEOPLE. it was kind of awesome, some guy messing with a Moog or hunched over a laptop and the blue hairs sat there and looked on. EXPANDING MINDS ONE AT A TIME. that was probably my favorite part. we saw one good guy though, Yann Novak, who played last year's Decibel Festival.

Hi guys!

Just a quick wave from me - there have been no noticeable breaks in the schedule here at the Clarion West bootcamp, but I thought I'd let you know about tomorrow night's reading at the SF museum. It's the last of the summer's CW readings as this is our last week (sob, wail). The reader this week is Samuel R. Delaney.

The readings are free and start at 7:30 p.m.

DAFT PUNK ROLL CALL

I'm not from Seattle, but I'm here for the week, and I'm going!

And Capitol Hill Block Party later today!

Cool! Hope you're having fun here. The Block Party should be great this weekend.

I'm going to Daft Punk. I'm also headed to the Cap Hill Block Party soon.

this is 100% unrelated to daft punk and the capitol hill block party, but you guys should go to the theo chocolate factory in fremont and take the tour. totally worth the $5. it's really interesting, and you (i did, anyway) end up eating a ton of awesome chocolate by the time you leave. and as an added bonus, the tour guide (nicole, maybe?) was cute.

Anyone for the Pogues, Lily Allen or UB40? I've got tickets!

Psychic TV were supposedly on the way, not sure now, though...

I'll try to make it down to Cap Hill tomorrow.

For some reason I was under the impression this was Sat-Sun, rather than Fri-Sat.

So, Mr. Jaq and I aren't going to the Daft Punk show, but Donut Bitch got in touch and is suggesting a pre-show meal, 3:30/4ish at Tamarind Tree (near 12th and Jackson in the International District). For some reason, DB is banned from posting to ILX, so that's why I'm posting this. Also, any excuse to eat at Tamarind Tree is a good one. Anyone needing directions/more info - get in touch. Let me or DB know you'll be there and we'll grab a big enough table.

i think we might be up for this. as you say, any excuse to eat at the tamarind tree.

we also found an amazing chinese place a block away: 7 Star Schezuan Pepper. i have no idea how to spell schezuan. it's at 12th and jackson, hidden in the upstairs of a run-down 2 story, and has to be the best chinese food i've had since i was in china. so great.

i need to talk to lingy and lxy, but we might come, around 5? 3:30 seems too early with the show at 8.

donut shouldn't be banned. that's just weird.

if you like electronic music, check out october:

oct 1 - ulrich schnauss @ crocodile
oct 2 - mt. eerie @ vera (k, not electronic, but still)
oct 8 - trentmoller @ neumo's
oct 12 - justice @ neumo's
oct 29 - caribou @ neumo's

Oh! I've heard of 7 Star Pepper, but haven't been there. Must go soon.

we'll drink mojitos 'til you and lxy get there :) The place gets crowded, maybe that's why donut was thinking so early. I tried the okra last time and it was nom nom nom.

okay i just talked to DB and 4 pm makes a lot more sense now. plan on seeing me and lingbert and lxy (though i still gotta confirm with them haha my presumptuousness) at the tamarind tree.

I will go to Tamarind Tree.

though i don't quite understand the 4pm meet up time. but i'm sure all will be revealed tomorrow.

db says it looks like djs at 630, rapture at 8, daft punk at 930. moves everything up some. he wants to get in there as soon as doors open. i want to drink between dinner and the rapture. that was a fun sentence.

This whole having a job thing is really messing with my ability to go to anything cool in this city.

Donut is banned? Woah. That explains why he disappeared then. Still, that is really weird.

I should probably go see Justice. I didn't know they were playing here.

jill i webmailed you

i'm pretty sure donut's ban is self-imposed for the purpose of more efficient usage of time.

The Donut's not banned in real life, for sure. I saw him just the other night!

Anyone else going to Rufus Wainwright?

Lingbert OTM re: donut's absence. It sounds more like he hasn't been able to get registered, rather than being banned.

Anyone else going to Richard Thompson? Also, Nick Lowe is supposed to be playing in Bothell sometime soon.

I will try to make this supper/luncheon/I'm-not-sure thing today. Hope to see you all there.

It was nice meeting you all.

I had so much fun tonight. I haven't danced that much for a very long time.

holy shit you guys was that show so awesome? o my god.

jill it was nice meeting you too. how was the afterparty?

i see why everyone likes tamarind tree so much now.

was nice meeting you jill. have fun up north.

down payment on a 2 bedroom house in Seattle? also, cost of house, please. googling that stuff is dangerous. thanks.

What part of Seattle? Things vary widely. It's generally expensive.

Jill, so great to meet you and glad to hear the show was so amazing!

thanks everybody that was really fun! and wow the venue didn't suck like i thought it would

I'm going to be out in the woods near Gold Bar this weekend.

camping? tell us how it is. I have yet to make it up to that part of hwy 2.

Hmmm. For some reason all my camping occurs up around Granite Falls/Darrington and not along Highway 2.

Or across the mountains.

hey Jill it was cool to meet you. Too bad we didn't know you before--you could have stayed at our house. Come back down from Vancouver if you get bored of the family and want to go out.

(Rev, good to see you too, sorry it was so short)

4x4ing

Oh, definitely. Great meeting you, Jill! I hope the rest of your trip goes well.

So long and thanks for all the... croquet

I am no longer in Seattle, so I suppose I had better take my leave of this thread. Thank you guys SO MUCH for having me and my little gang over for croquet and fun. I'm really sad I didn't get to see you again but things got seriously crazy in the last couple of weeks of Clarion and I pretty well couldn't see my hand in front of my face...

I loved Seattle & I hope to come back and sample more of its delights in future. I have loads of friends there now, yay!

love Z.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1274/1025000960_010e6393b0.jpg

It were nice.

glad we got to meet you, zora. and your cool friends, too. come back anytime!

cheers zora

hey kerm were you the one driving?

No that's my roommate. I was in the passenger seat when he got it sideways though.

Anyone going to see Devin the Dude on Friday? Concert's at 8, I get off work at 9:15, so I should be good, right? Considering that I missed/will miss Daft Punk, the Block Party, Bumbershoot, Mekons, life, etc., I should really try to make this one.