Best Electro

dl some akufen... hawaiian wodka party is hot

check out o9... also reanimator

"Electric Kingdom" by Twilight 22. The second-best-ever electro-rap song after "Planet Rock". I have to pull this one out every few months - it reminds me of being nine years old, hearing rap for the first time, and just going "WHOAH! What is that?"

Lately I've been really into late 80s LA Techno-Hop type electro. The X-Men feat. DJ Slip and Unknown DJ is amazing.

I was just listening to Akufens "My Way" album yesterday thinking how unlistenable it is now. - once you are passed the novelty its just tiring, I had to turn it off and listen to soethign with a real melody adn structure.

the last shit hot track i heard was Goldfrapp - "Strict Machine" (We Are Glitter Mix). Dirty dirty rockin electro-punk shit, i can't describe how much i love this song.

old stuff that is still classic? Carrera remix album / Sluts and Strings and 909 on Cheap?. "Put Me On" now that was ahead of its time.

also new stuff.

Junior Boys - Last Exit / Electro-ish Rnb

I've been listening to the 12" of chemical sweet girl by blackstrobe. Really liking that too.

This is pretty old but was awesome live - the model by kraftwork.

Any suggestions if i want to hear some sleazy electro as well?

Yeah i love that goldfrapp song.

May I perhaps to suggest the following:

Elektrons Aus Dem Futur - Vortex of Robots
Anime Mechanikon - What Do You Know, Osaka?

1. Kano - I'm Ready
2. Afrika Bambaataa & The Soul Sonic Force - Planet Rock
3. Rockers - Revenge - Walking on Sunshine
4. Hashim - Al-Naafiysh (The Soul)
5. New Order - Confusion (original mix)
6. Freeze - A.E.I.O.U.
7. Freestyle - Don't Stop the Rock
8. Egyptian Lover - Egypt, Egypt
9. Newcleus - Jam On It
10. Shannon - Let the Music Play
11. Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam with Full Force - I Wonder If I Take You Home
12. Debbie Deb - When I Hear Music

(80:49 - classics to my mind from L.A. urban radio from the mid/late-80s)

Hashim - Al-Naafiysh (The Soul)

This is the shit.

Anyone here ever hear That Electroids album that came out on Warp ages ago. I think it was a Drexia side project.

The electro that comes from my drum machine has renewed my faith in electro.

There are three things that are fundamentally wrong with Texas:

1. They don't have good polish restaurants.

2. There is no such thing as a Coney Island in Texas.

3. When I turn on the radio on Friday and Saturday night they don't play booty.

I found a promo copy recently when I moved though, gotta give it a listen to again and reaquaint myself.

Rewind by Cylob is also a fun electro song.

If you tune in to the radio you can hear plenty of norteno on Friday and Saturday nights.

Listing to Laurent X - Machines.

Its damn close.

http://forum.electroalliance.net/

hans, I can't even find them on google. Let alone work out what label they're on. or if they exist.

You're about nothing Disco Nihilist.

http://www.hmv.com.au/product/dance.asp?sku=931935

HAPPY LISTENING!

THESE ARE ALL HOT ELECTRO ARTISTS CHECK EM OUT

http://forum.electroalliance.net/viewforum.php?f=6&sid=9a0d94ca7b829c12f0e7df09ac1a84cc

I'm a fan of Anthony Rother anyway :)

cheers :)

Would you like to google search for "taking the piss"?

and secondly Hawiian Wodka Party came out at least a year ago. I thought everyone was over that micro-sampling shit now anyway?

a) just because a record came out over a year ago doesn't mean people stop listening to it, and doesn't mean it doesn't still really, really work. It is plain stupid to suggest otherwise - a decent tune is a decent tune - period. Only overexposure really makes a tune not work.

b) no. we are not "over that microsampling shit", thanks.

ryuichi sakamoto - riot in lagos (fave tune ever)
fantasy 3 - the buck stops here (ok fine 'it's your rock' is still the 2nd greatest tune ever)
la dream team - funky fresh
knights of the turntable - we are the knights
beside- change le beat
just-ice - turbo charged
mantronix - hardcore hip hop (nme 7" rmx)
fat boys - stick em
cd III - success
magnificent 3 and fearless master - crush
k-rob - i'm a homeboy
byron davis and the get fresh crew - my hands are quicker than the eye
hardrock soul movement - the beat is mine
the buggers - bugger groove

i think i am going to start exploring this label. the compilations are great and so is Sol_Dat's "How to Make Yr Car Look Extremely Pretty EP" (bass meets 2step meets hardcore)

http://homepage.eircom.net/~audio1/spin.html

http://homepage.eircom.net/~audio1/ewm.html

http://homepage.eircom.net/~audio2/mishmash.html

http://homepage.eircom.net/~stephenx/fairview.html

http://homepage.eircom.net/~stephenx/basf.html

http://homepage.eircom.net/~blam/oranga.html

http://homepage.eircom.net/~blam/krolik.html

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0001CVAHE/qid=1092990519/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_11_1/202-9484753-1822234

(would The Wire do an Electro Primer? Oh hang on, the music's all to do with pleasure and fun. Not half as interesting or radical as doing a live review of Coil for the 27th consecutive month!)

Electro-funk was a style of music born out of hip-hop, with emphasis on drum machines, synthesizers, and a futuristic, space-age aesthetic(at first.) It was the music people Breakdanced to and the sound was always funky and derived from hip-hop beats. It was not space disco, necessarily, though there was definitely cross-breeding early on. There were regional variations of the sound, such as the faster West Coast electro with all the heavy breathing, or what was heard in Detroit which, when mixed with house music, would later become techno.

But by the late 80s it died as hip-hop went more sample based. In NY and areas electro's influence morphed into Freestyle, in Miami it would be Bass, in LA it would be Techno-Hop, in detroit, Techno etc, but Electro-funk as a genre was pretty much dead.

my theory is that in came back a few years later, primarily through what would later be known as IDM. The electronic producers who would create IDM were seeped in the history of electronic dance music and in the early/mid 90s it became hip for producers like Autechre, Black Dog, DMX Krew etc to draw from and reference Electro-funk(and Bass etc), leading them to start actually creating NEW electro. At the same time, techno artists in detroit started making new electro as well, Drexciya, Aux 88, Ectomorph, Le Car etc.

The mid 90s brought us Neo-Electro, which is what I remember people callling it back then, to distinguish that stuff from Man Parrish and Hashim and co. In a natural progression many of these producers started to move on to draw from the New Wave and Italo-Disco, which had coincided with and taken influence from Electro-Funk back in the 80s. Le Car brought us Adult. and the rest is history. To many of us, most of the newere electronic music referred to as "Electro" is entirely lacking in the hip-hop history and funk of the Electro-Funk we remember from the 80s, which can be frustrating. Some of the best of these new Electro producers are basically creating a cool hybrid of Electro-Funk, Techno, House, Freestyle, Bass, New Wave, Industrial etc. IF that is Electro, then so be it. But most of what people call electro these days is just bad New Wave, bad Techno or bad industrial.

that's my take on it at least, but if you ask me what my favorite Electro is, I'll still mostly go back to the 80s and come up with a list including stuff like:

Planet Rock
Newtrament-London Bridge is Falling Down
Man Parrish-Hip Hop Be Bop Don't Stop
John Robie's remix of Cabaret Voltaire's Yashar
Section 25-Looking from a Hilltop
Pieces of a Dream-Mount Airy Groove
Hashim-Al Naayfish
David Gamson-Sugar Sugar
Time Zone-The Wildstyle

etc etc

to draw from and reference Electro-funk(and Bass etc), leading them to start actually creating NEW electro

All that Clear electro type stuff.

Techno-Hop was a record label in LA that had a roster of artists that around 88 or so were producing a pretty cool hybrid of electro-funk/miami-bass/techno-house/just plain old club music. The Unknown DJ, DJ Slip etc. It's a weird sound that's somehow all of the above things and none of them at the same time.

This is interesting:

http://www.dynamixii.com/history.html

highly recommended listening for people seeking electro

http://www.jahsonic.com/DavidToopElectro.html

and throw in:
i-f "space invaders are smoking grass"
that closer musik track on Total 3, forgot the name of it

Maybe I can rephrase. What are some artists that are similar to Blackstrobe, Legowelt, The Hacker, Millimetric, Phonique, Green Velvet, Nitzer Ebb, Miss Kitten, Severed Heads, Mylo, Krome, Jesper Dahlbach, 2raumwohnung, Scratch Massive, Chelonis R Jones, Royksopp etc.

I'd really love to hear something sleazy.

On a related note, anyone here know reguritator? Their second album (Unit) has a lot of electro-inspired sounds that i'd love to hear. Anyone know any bands like them?

Also, in kinda a different question, I'm kinda getting into this electro-funk stuff. What are the NWA style classics?

Severed Heads has always been called industrial because the early stuff comes out of a Cabaret Voltaire/SPK context and the later stuff was released on Nettwerk records, but these are difficult things to define. On some of my favorite early Severed Heads records, they comfortably go from straight kraftwerk-esque synthpop to Musique Concrete.

Nitzer Ebb was industrial music. Industrial music that admittedly was very popular with techno DJs.

blackstrobe and such, more examples of techno with an industrial influence, thus electro, I suppose.

Tim, electro-house will never catch on, especially in a time when house music has a pretty entrenched meaning that usually involves an aesthethic opposed to heavy electronics, in general. Though everything from Metro Area to the recent Masters at Work Electronic Dance EP show that's getting messy as well.

There's quite a big underground synthpop plus vocal thing happening at the moment, often with strong gothic tendencies (cf Latex Records et al). Not a million miles from Soft Cell perhaps.

The Gurge are recording their next album over 21 days in a glass bubble enclosure in Federation Square in Melbourne from August 31. It will be webcast live as well.

Just where will they hide their drugs I dodn't know.

Their website

Is Felix da housecat's work with miss kitten classified as electropop too?

Everytime I read about blackstrobe/ivan smagghe it's always been classed as electro. I guess it's hard to put music to genres because it's hard to draw boundarys to genres.

When i was in thailand I went to a full moon party, and hung out at the hard house tent. It was awesome. But hardhouse had always meant *boom* *boom* *boom* to me. I hated it. Entry level dance music i used to call it.
But the hard house in thailand was just normal house, with evil sounds. i guess dark house if that's a genre.

TMM: That's exactly what i'm looking for - kinda depeche mode brought up to now. But it's gotta be something you could drop during a set and get a good responce from the dancefloor. It's kinda hard to dance to depeche mode.

I think it's only felt right to actually say "electro-house" in the last 6 months or so even though electroclash has been seeping into house for ages.

Anko maybe check out some of the following, if you've not heard them already. I probably could think of alot more but you seem to know alot of the good stuff already!

Polyester-Culture Club
Lacquer-The Host
Martini Brothers-The Biggest Fan (Black Strobe Mix)
Basement Jaxx-Cish Cash (Vitalic Mix)
Cursor Miner-The Sport Of Kings

btw I think smagghe etc and all that stuff IS electro, just I guess if you live in the US nobody ever calls it that. I mean let's face it things are what everyone knows them as, and everyone knows all the acts you mentioned as electro, in Europe anyway, perhaps in Australia too.

I'll tell you how I go :)

Cheers again mate!

I mean stuff like the GusGus mix of "In The Night" by Ralphi Rosario strikes me as a typical electro-house track. I'm not sure alot of the tracks I'm thinking of are tracky enough to be called techno.

I know what you mean about house but I guess there is a more Euro strain of music which is not techno, and is not deep/chicago house. I guess there's a big Euro/US divide here, as ever. Progressive house fits this a bit aswell, I guess it's not house in the "house tradition" sense of the word but it seems further away from techno to me.

you people have some strange notions.
LOL

traditionally, house and techno can either be tracky or not. Traditionally Electro-funk, i.e. proper electro, I've never heard referred to as "tracky" but in the sense of Jive Rhythm Tracks, sure can be. This newer "electro" can either be tracky or not.

Not all house music has conga breakdowns and flute solos, but the general understanding, esp. in america, of what house music is would EXCLUDE stuff like Washing Machine or French Kiss, that, according to commonly accepted definitions, sound more like Techno then House, but by geography and history, are House.

Any of this music can have vocals of course.

And my point to begin with, Electro, as in Electro-Funk, as in the way Electro was defined from 1982 to 2002, IS HIP HOP!

house: pianos, gospel divas, gypsy woman
techno: synthesizers, and more synthesizers

etc.

I've spent a few years talking about this and trying to breakdown that notion, which may be a uniquely american one. But in a population where most people who are into dance music these days came to techno through stuff like IDM, there was, and is, a bias against house and disco, which I think has to do with race. House is soulful black music, Techno is soulless white music. etc. There's been a lot of arm-twising on my part and others I think to say "hey, House music is not only equally as cool, but often the same damn thing, if not WEIRDER and more experimental then techno"(see Sleazy D/Phuture style acid or War Games or Acid Crash etc.

first off, no need to get offended. i was merely poking fun at the semantics and rigidity of your discussion. since you both seem to have a good knoweldge and background in the subect, i didn't imagine you'd take offense to my laughing observations... guess i was wrong there. my apologies.

but since you asked: my notions are that dance music is (and pretty much always has been) about the mixture and bastardization and hybridization of styles. and the sort of "definitions" you guys are talking per styles are temporal at best.

i can (offhand) some up with at least 10 songs that disprove all of your above defining traits. i can also think of 10 that fall in line with your "definitions". and a load in between. and next week it'll probably be even more different. it just struck me as funny to hear you guys bantering back and forth so seriously about defining something that prides itself on being ill-defined and constantly reinvinting itself.

anyhow, i'm leaving work now. nevermind me

I dunno, Dublin is techno crazy, it bugs the hell out of me.

lately I either use every genre name to describe something I'm gonna do, with tounge half in cheek, or none at all, because it becomes limiting and damning.

haha TMM: I just realised. The reason why that gurge song didn't click. It's Blubber boy. Not bubble boy! LOL :)
-- Anko

Hahaha. Dumb jokes, I make 'em.

Look folks, I think what Anko's after is that strain of electroclash which involves slightly slower, song-oriented writing with strong but deliberately underproduced, old school Euro electro beats, European romantic lyrics (tales of suffering and social ennui in the search for real love), catchy synth melodies. This is frustrating for me cos there's a club in Sydney where all this post-Depeche, post John Foxx stuff is played, but I don't know any of the names of the groups.

Okay fair enough but do all our definitions have to pander to Americans who don't know dance music (who aren't gonna get into this stuff anyway?). Cos in Europe and elsewhere there's always been as much synthetic electronic soulless house as there has been conga breakdowns and flute solos. In fact really the house-as-trad-soulfulness only applies fully to deep house and post-Strictly Rhythm vocal house (and contrast and compare gay vocal house for the last ten years, which has been more like a fusion of disco and trance. Although now it's all gone very electro-house as well!) Two very popular strains of house I'll grant you but merely "strains" nonetheless. Electro-flavoured house doesn't strike me as particularly more electronic or less soulful than

The audience for this stuff is more of a house audience than a techno audience as well I reckon.

Can you guys suggest me some electro/soulless house?

I just like it raw. house with edge. I don't know if you guys know "Frank sinatra 2001 mix" by miss kitten and the hacker, but that song is synthpop with edge. dark electropop? Anything from that to Felix da housecat + miss kitten's harlot type songs, to nitzer ebb style industrial to even more techno tracks - I got got the 12" to she's in parties by dave clarke. That song rocks. and it's complete with blackstrobe remix :)

C/D: Tok Tok ft Soffy O - Day Of Mine

Tok Tok vs Soffy O LP

http://www.spraci.net/directory/sydney/labels/

Ahh I'll have to check it out :)

then listen to Front Line Assembly and Neon Judgement.

Yet, to contradict even myself, it may indeed be observed that there is a little electro in every German, even Akufen just as there is perhaps a little house in every Chicago person.

Do ya' like Swayzaks new album???

However that would be a most unusual circumstance, yes? The jumper would presumably be comlicit in some kind of sadomasochistic pleasure pact. I am not so sure what this has to do with electro. I fear we are at risk of perhaps dethroning the topic.

http://www.cybernoise.com/default.htm

Having said that, I reckon the great unsung comp that did a HELL of a lot to bring certain strands of electro to more public attention, and that to me summarised the best of a lot of different strains of electro was that Dave Clarke Electro Boogie vol 2 mix from 98 or so:

01 Dopplereffekt Sterilization
02 Oliver Dodd Janitorial Bandsaw
03 Shiver Doctor Break
04 World Class Wreckin' Cru Surgery
05 KT-19941 Face Your Fate
06 Unknown DJ, The 808 Beats
07 I-F Space Invaders Are Smoking Grass
08 Technasia Crosswalk
09 Ectomorph Skin
10 DJ Assault U Can't See Me
11 Anthony Rother Describe Reality
12 Transits Of Tone Warfare Beats
13 Da Sampla Digital System
14 Will Web Boomin'
15 Alien FM The Future
16 Like A Tim From Scratch
17 Aux 88 I Need To Freak

I mean, right there you got virtually every really crucial producer and style represented from that era, the whole thing hangs really well and it's sonically interesting the whole way through. And I'm gutted that I lost my copy...

Also: World Class Wrecking Cru - Dr Dre's best work?

I always say Dre's best work was Supersonic...or was that the Arabian Prince?

I checked out a Tok Tok + Soffy O track, (Day of mine) - it was okay but it was kinda like royksopp return to the sun vocally. And a bit too poppy for what i'm looking for.

Anyone know any songs with chicks singing sleazy? with more electro/house/industrial(slightly) beats?

With Akufen being French-Canadian, I don't really know what to make of that.

I wouldn't consider akufen electro at all, but someone else did. It is all down to opinions - I quite enjoy reading the passionate argument that people can get into regarding what is, in reality, really symantics. It is either good, or it isn't.

You also need Debbie Deb's "You are my fantasy" which really badly needs a re-release.

°Û± VA - In Electro We Trust (2004)
°Û± 01:Silicon Scally - Gigaquad 05:54 ±Û°
°Û± 02:The Hacker - Dans la Salle des 06:14 ±Û°
°Û± Machines ±Û°
°Û± 03:Rodent - Intergalactic Hunter 05:30 ±Û°
°Û± 04:Larry Mccormick - Escape 06:50 ±Û°
°Û± 05:Dr.Scissors - Basra 05:23 ±Û°
°Û± 06:Frequenzberater - Witness 06:38 ±Û°
°Û± 07:Anthony Rother - Freaks 05:31 ±Û°
°Û± 08:Alexander Kowalski - 1000 Eyes 05:35 ±Û°
°Û± 09:The Advent - Houdinni 05:38 ±Û°
°Û± 10:Soundfreaks - We dont care 04:26 ±Û°
°Û± 11:Johannes Heil - Brotherhood of 06:00 ±Û°
°Û± Snakes ±Û°
°Û± 12:Tecr0c - Radioactive Contamina 06:51 ±Û°
°Û± 13:Billy Nasty & Anthony Rother - 05:45 ±Û°
°Û± Celebrate the Roots ±Û°

The singing is pretty crap - i actually know the original now that i hear it. but the beats rock!

anyone know any other artists like tiefschwarz?

and i'm still looking for sleazy chick vocals.

That would be the fattest song if it started and finished with a housey beat.

Languid sleazy and menacing.

Yeah it's a goody. But it's not beaty enough. I think the song i'm looking for just doens't exist!

applyby: I think i've heard them, they are a bit more breaksy than housey though, right? I'll have to check them out again! :)

anyone know anyone who does similar stuff to the hacker? I was just listening to 1982 and that is one of the fattest beats ever :)

Tim: Thanx for the tip. Yeah i like sleazy male too but there just seems to be more slezy male than female.

Just as a side note, I'm listening to Machine Drum's "Half the battle" record 3 and it's RAD. if you're into breaks, it's sick :)

also Ilkae's bring extra dragons and both records of decepticon's Lost subject.

holy crap every time i hear them i wanna go write a song but i don't want to stop listening so i don't.

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Gosub