Rolling top 40 discussion thread, nr1.

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That G4 record, probably the worst Bohemian Rhapsody ever, and it's not 'debutted at number one', not even close. Opera will not be brought to the masses by lousy comedy recordings of 'rock' tunes.

And it's not cause I like BoRhap, I don't. Just, if this was a success, your favourite song would be NEXT!

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 21 March 2005 09:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Mark...you're a nice guy and everything, but...I'm sorry...it's just not the same...I don't feel you like I felt William (sobs)...

*clears throat*

Number nine, G4 went in at - any chance of a cover of "Revolution #9" for a follow-up then?

Tony Christie bang in at number one as expected. This week Elvis hits a new low with the frankly undersung "She's Not You" debuting at a mere number three.

Other notable new entries: Gwen Stefani/Eve (4), Dido sorry Jem (6), Basement Jaxx (8), Shapeshifters (10, with thudding inevitability not as good as the last one), Green Day (11), Beverley Shite (16), QOTSA (18), and, ladies and gentlemen, making their UK singles chart debut at number 20...THE MARS VOLTA!

(alas Lady Sovereign stumbles in at a disappointing 73 with "Random")

In the albums chart, the Stereophonics, with thudding inevitability, go straight in at the top, Tony C's greatest back up to 2 (what about that Best of Tony Christie for three quid that's been sitting in the basement of Berwick Street MVE for the last 18 months then?), Teh Bravery in at 5, Moby spearheading the Knack revival at 8, H***n A***r A*l struggles to make number 10. Further down, My Chemical Romance and Brendan Benson debut at 69 and 70 respectively, which presumably indicates the number of copies each sold.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 21 March 2005 11:07 (twenty-one years ago)

that's ridiculously low for 'Random' - i wonder why nobody bought it (no really)

i like the Jem and Knight tracks. guilty pleasures? whatever


i'd suggest a Rolling Top 40 thread instead of starting a new one every week now

Sven Bastard (blueski), Monday, 21 March 2005 11:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey, I'm not william (although when I was about 20, I was a dead ringer for him..)

But a discussion thread for the weeks chart seems a good idea.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 21 March 2005 11:14 (twenty-one years ago)

The Jem track reminds me of Beth Orton's version of "I don't want to know about evil" from her William Orbit days...

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 21 March 2005 11:18 (twenty-one years ago)

(I'll ask about renaming this thread to a rolling one...)

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 21 March 2005 11:19 (twenty-one years ago)

The Beverley Knight track is my favourite single of the year. It's a cover of a Robyn S (Show Me Love) song, as it happens.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 21 March 2005 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, Robyn, Billie Piper's German aspiration model.

I thought the Jaxx deserved to beat Jem (in realistic terms - they couldn't have topped Eve and her mate) and Sov, Beck and Beverley should have fared way better.

BARMS, Monday, 21 March 2005 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I should have said - it's a VASTLY IMPROVED cover of a Robyn S song. Original was too muddy in the mix. The Beck single is wretched - though his downward trajectory is amusing to watch.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 21 March 2005 12:33 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't think this is the same Knight song i was thinking of then - i thought her new single was an original song with slinky 4/4 Rodney Jerkins-esque production?

Sven Bastard (blueski), Monday, 21 March 2005 13:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Downward trajectory, Edward? As far as I can tell this is what Beck's ALWAYS been like.

No 73, oh for fuck's fucking sake: I was probably the only person in the entire country to buy it, then. Even 'Hype Hype' managed to get to No 22!

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 21 March 2005 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I should have said - it's a VASTLY IMPROVED cover of a Robyn S song.

woah woah woah. This is no minor fucking claim here, that was one of the best songs of the 90s. Who / what?

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Monday, 21 March 2005 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I was probably the only person in the entire country to buy it, then.

Nah, I bought the other copy. Nicely off the wall newspaper mock-up sleeve.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 21 March 2005 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

For kids too young to remember "Public Image."

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 21 March 2005 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Or Thick As A Brick.

NickB (NickB), Monday, 21 March 2005 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Or sometime in NYC

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 21 March 2005 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah yes, Thick As A Brick, the one-legged fluting salmon farmer at his most inspired:

"The sandcastle virtues are all swept away in the tidal destruction of the moral melee."

"Columnated ruins domino" schmomino!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 21 March 2005 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

woah woah woah. This is no minor fucking claim here, that was one of the best songs of the 90s. Who / what?

i can't see what the Bev Knight single has got to do with 'Show Me Love' - totally different songs. edward o mistaken?

Sven Bastard (blueski), Monday, 21 March 2005 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

"Keep The Fire Burning" was another Robin S single which didn't do as well as "Show Me Love" (IIRC it was the one after the one after "SML").

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 21 March 2005 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Lone regret about not doing this anymore - haven't heard that Tyler James single. If I had more than £15 left in this world, I'd rectify that. Fingers crossed I can get a bloody job when I get back home.

Also - Futureheads album out of the top 20 after just one week. In the week when I find that I've booked a club night on the very same night they're playing Leeds. Buggggggger. Though there may still be tickets left for their Sheffield gig, so fingers crossed etc. They may be re-releasing Decent Days & Nights for their next single, despite how the album is riddled with potential smash hits but especially dancefloor-heart-attack-waiting-to-happen 'Carnival Kids'.

As for the singles being released this week, a handy summary can be found here. Have a read, why don't you?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 21 March 2005 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

"Keep The Fire Burning" was another Robin S single which didn't do as well as "Show Me Love" (IIRC it was the one after the one after "SML").

Aha, that makes more sense.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Monday, 21 March 2005 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Robin S ("Show Me Love") and Robyn ("Keep This Fire Burning") are two different people. Pity it isn't a cover of the Gwen McCrae track of the same name, though.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 21 March 2005 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

True. Thing is, Robyn had a hit called 'Show Me Love' too...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 21 March 2005 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

The complete hit-o-graphies of Robin S (From America):

6 Robin S Show Me Love Mar 1993
11 Robin S Luv 4 Luv Jul 1993
9 Robin S Show Me Love (remix) Mar 1997
37 Robin S It Must Be Love Jul 1997

and Robyn (From Sweden):

26 Robyn Do You Know (What It Takes) Aug 1997
8 Robyn Show Me Love Mar 1998
20 Robyn Do You Really Want Me May 1998

Robin S also had a hit album, which charted at #34. Have a guess what the title was...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 21 March 2005 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

The Beck single is wretched - though his downward trajectory is amusing to watch.

It was vastly improved on CD:UK after livening it up a bit and getting Spike Jonze (or a lookalike) to b-boy around the stage. Some of the other Guero songs blow this away tho'.

BARMS, Monday, 21 March 2005 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Whoops. My mistake. "Keep This Fire Burning" is by Robyn, the one who did "Do You Know (What It Takes)". I don't know why I put the S on the end, but at least I spelt the first name correctly.

As far as I know, Robyn's KTFB wasn't released outside of Sweden. Popjustice bigged it up a few years back, bemoaning the fact that no record company seemed interested in a UK release. Someone somewhere must have been reading. If only she'd released it directly after "Come As You Are", she probably would have gone top 10.

Barima, which Guero songs should I be hearing if I loved Odelay and Midnite Vultures, but hated Sea Change?

And WBS: the Tyler James single is fantastico - I like it more than "Why Do I Do?" actually.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 21 March 2005 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

That G4 record, probably the worst Bohemian Rhapsody ever

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00000I5LT.01.MZZZZZZZ.jpg

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 21 March 2005 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, how many copies do you need to sell to make 73 nowadays? Seriously question, considering despite a midscale flypostering campaign Blak Twang couldn't bloody manage it last week.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 21 March 2005 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Prompted by the above hilariously titled Stylus piece, am I the only person that thinks the new Erasure song 'Don't Say You Love Me' is really good?

Michael Philip Philip Philip Philip Annoyman v1.0 (Ferg), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Dom, tell me about that version, I don't know it. Is it as good as the Fuzzbox one?

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 10:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, the results are in and it's a second week for the old feller, making Tony Christie the first artist to be at #1 for more than a week this year. After three months.

Mario is unspectacularly at #2, Fiddy's at 4, Elvis only gets to #5 this week (and it was 'Return To Sender' an' all), Wusmiff is at #6, The Imbruglinator is #8, The Faders are all over by Christmas at #13, Erasure are #15, and the magical prospect that was BRITISH SEA POWER IN THE TOP 10 FOR FUCK'S SAKES didn't come to pass, though they still got their first top 20 single - #18. Hilariouser still, Kasabian's re-release of 'Club Foot' managed to chart two places lower than it did first time around (#21), while The Subways set about carving their own deeply inconsequential niche at #25. XTM & DJ Chucky Presented Annia again at #28, just as I though I'd wiped the horror that was 'Fly On The Wings Of Love' from my memory forever. Immediately prior was Yet Another Fucking Damien Rice Single. Perhaps it was a good thing I gave this up. The lower end of the 40 was a haven for classic songwriting, in fact, with the Finn Brothers at #32, Bright Eyes and I Am Kloot making their chart bows at #37 and #38 respectively, and Stylus UK Singles Jukebox Grand Champeen Roots Manuva winding it up at #39.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 27 March 2005 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and Tony's done the double - #1 in the albums too. The Jaxx Singles Collection is #3, QOTSA are #4, Beck #15, and, at #30... well, here's the tracklisting:

1. Everything Comes At The Right Time
2. Free My Name
3. Wah Wah
4. Drive Away
5. I Love You
6. This Day Should Last Forever
7. Move Things Over
8. Waving Not Drowning
9. God's World
10. Another Time To Stay
11. Have You Got The Right
12. Start Of The Day
13. My Time

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, it's the return of Mr Simon Fowler and his Ocean Colour Scene, entitled A Hyperactive Workout For The Flying Squad.

I've this weird feeling that I really want to hear it, y'know...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 27 March 2005 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Woo, #18 for BSP. Beating Kasabian by 3 places! Hahahaha! (Though Club Foot is a good bit better than their other singles). Shame the top 10 midweek placing didn't hold, but you can't expect too much. Lovely.

Crackity (Crackity Jones), Sunday, 27 March 2005 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Third week atop for Tony, and for the first time in a while his nearest challenger's Elvis - 'You're The Devil In Disguise' sticks at #2, with Mario dropping a slot to #3. Mariah's at #4, Kylie's #6 (Fiddy in the middle - how many puns how could make about that, eh), Lemar #9 and - EEEEK!!! - 'Negotiate With Love' is left floundering at #10! It's nothing like as good as everyone says, but it's still better than more or less all the other stuff in the top 10 (top 2 excepted)! Oh no! Oh no!

Mozzer's live versions of 'There Is A Light That Never Goes Out' and 'Redondo Beach' are YOUR number eleven(s), closely followed by Studio B at #12. No new entries till #23, which is the fourth single off Avwiw's album living up to expectations - song's quite good, the video's just very, very disturbing. The Dead 60's get their second piece of top 40 action at #24 (has anyone heard this one? 'Riot Radio' was quite good... I could probably have done with putting it in the jukebox anyhow), and Twista gets his Jesus on at #25. The Arcade Fire provide more stuff for JK & Joel to talk all over ("DURR! HE CAN'T SING! DURR!") at #30, but get the consolation of out-charting fellow Canadian Michael Buble (#31). Estelle is probably OK to start work on some new stuff now (#32), while Do Me Bad Things come to a screeching halt at #33. Yeti are #36, Hanson #39, and Bullet For My Valentine are in the vanguard OF YORRR HARRRTTT at #40.

Tony continues to top the album chart. New Order are #5, Wusmiff #15, Damien Rice is in the top 20 YET A-FUCKING-GAIN, Brandy's best of (you're apathetic towards more of her songs than you think you are!) is #24 and John Legend As Seen On The Hit ITV Show Parkinson is #32.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 3 April 2005 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Who the fuck is Tony Christie and why is he number one???

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 3 April 2005 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

if it's the tony christie who did "amarillo" half a million years ago, then, um, he's the singer of one of the greatest bubblegum songs ever. i'd love to hear anything else even half as good by him.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Sunday, 3 April 2005 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

the 'cleverer' Rachel gets the less she will sell, innit

Sven Basted (blueski), Sunday, 3 April 2005 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Anything else even half as good by Tony Christie??

Would you settle for "I Did What I Did For Maria" which is something like 84 times better than "Amarillo"?

"Negotiate With Love" at #10 is something of a triumph, really. Without a high powered name behind it (Rachel Stevens is enough of a drawcard, I mean, "More More More" made #3, remember), this would have been another "Chewing Gum"/"Looking For A Place" chart travesty.

Discussing that particular single, someone said to me "Sounds like another Number 2!". Ho, what a pity.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 3 April 2005 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

In the avenues and alleyways, where a Rachel Stevens single is easy to buy...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 4 April 2005 12:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh dear god, my onetime favourite band puts out their worst single by an absolute country mile and they look about to have their second-biggest hit ever.

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 04:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I noticed JK/Joel played the Bright Eyes single and were quite positive about it.

See, JK/Joel? You can, if you try.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 07:39 (twenty-one years ago)

have terrible judgement?

Sven Basted (blueski), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 09:17 (twenty-one years ago)

It would be good to also discuss SINGLES THAT ARE JUST OUT and ting (ta, Lex), would it not?

Time for pillorying. I really like the Mel Blatt single. First listen - er, go away. Fifth listen, the same burrowing, hypnotic hooks that were all through something like "Overrated" by Siobhan Donaghy.

edward o (edwardo), Friday, 8 April 2005 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.stylusmagazine.com/review.php?ID=2901

Michael Vickas, Friday, 8 April 2005 01:02 (twenty-one years ago)

This week Tony Christie was signed up to advertise cheese. Whether this was a particular brand of cheese or just a general piece of the cheese marketing board, I'm not sure. Anyway, he's still at #1, and another dead guy, Elvis, is at #2 with "Crying In The Chapel". Mario's still at three, Fifty Cent would like to "take you" (have sex with you) to the candy shop (in your ass) at four, and Will Smith climbs three to #5. Mariah Carey at #6 (anyone think her intonation on the chorus makes her sound like the guy from Ugly Duckling?), new entry for Garbage at #7, McFly and Lemar are nice I suppose at #8 and #9, and Melanie C rails against consumer culture or something with "Next Best Superstar" at #10.

New entries for Natasha Bedingfield ("I Bruise Easily", #12), Feeder ("Our Drummer's Still Dead", #13), Kelis ft Nas ("In Public", #17), The Bees, The Others, and The Departure bring the pain between 28 and 30, and Sir Elton is at #32. The longest running single on the charts is J-Lo (8 weeks).

Natalie Imbruglia debuts at #1 in the album charts, Mariah Carey at #7, British Sea Power will never record another "Remember Me" at #13, with Morrissey's live album at #18.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 10 April 2005 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Natalie Imbruglia at number one in the album chart?

How did that happen? No-one else got albums out?

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 11 April 2005 08:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Solid fanbase, pretty big single, rather obvious. It is her weakest album by some distance. (I really, really rate the second one, on which she is basically a one-woman Sundays for a good half of it, and the cap fits quite well).

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 11 April 2005 08:34 (twenty-one years ago)

The singles chart:

The top two singles both mention churches.

1) When did that last happen?
2) How long till a christian webste mentions this? (ILX doesn't count)

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 11 April 2005 08:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I fucking hate everything about this country responsible for the No 1 single and album this week. Especially fucking 'Amarillo'. Fuck off!

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 11 April 2005 09:05 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd really like a Pitman version of 'Candy Shop' (retitled 'Camping Shop' as suggested by Alix) although I myself have opted to sing it in a George Formby type voice for now.

$V£N! (blueski), Monday, 11 April 2005 09:06 (twenty-one years ago)

this one action alone makes me infinitely funnier than Avid Merrion. no really.

$V£N! (blueski), Monday, 11 April 2005 09:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Less Tony Christie/"Amarillo" hate please, it's unworthy of you.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 April 2005 09:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Three climbers in the Top 11 (50 Cent, Will Smith, Gwen Stefani) is most unusual. So is only having one new entry (VHS Or Beta) between 33 and 75.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 11 April 2005 09:08 (twenty-one years ago)

on which she is basically a one-woman Sundays for a good half of it

ha ha, is this the one with 'Smoke' on it?

$V£N! (blueski), Monday, 11 April 2005 09:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Launch still list the top 75 singles every week even if no-one else does, though they do have the ugliest presentation of it ever.

$V£N! (blueski), Monday, 11 April 2005 09:09 (twenty-one years ago)

surely Elton John's song should be titled 'Turn The Lights Off When You Enter', assuming it's a love song sung from his perspective?

$V£N! (blueski), Monday, 11 April 2005 09:10 (twenty-one years ago)

No, "Smoke" is off the first one, which is the one where she tries, alternately, to be Alanis Morisette, Portishead, Garbage and Heather Nova.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 11 April 2005 09:10 (twenty-one years ago)

is 'Torn' the greatest ever song to be a harbinger of absolutely nothing else worthy of note in the artist's career?

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 11 April 2005 09:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and if Tony Christie and the Elvis reissues weren't enough, it's likely that Gene Kelly will have a posthumous number one in the next month or so...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 05:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, what, the advert?

Actually, fair enough, if the DVD version is a 'whole thing' and no "oh look, a car" bit...

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 07:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i expect the 'Cillit Bang' remix will be a slowburn Summer hit

$V£N! (blueski), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 09:22 (twenty-one years ago)

So is only having one new entry (VHS Or Beta) between 33 and 75.
Is this because no one bothers to release singles anymore? Or that mediore indie bands can now get into the top 50 because sales are so crap?

Apparently downloads are going to be incorporated into the singles chart from this week. I guess that will introduce more movement into the charts.

jellybean (jellybean), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 10:11 (twenty-one years ago)

and a zoom into the top 10 for the Stereophonics...

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 10:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Apparently downloads are going to be incorporated into the singles chart from this week. I guess that will introduce more movement into the charts.

I predict less movement, not more. The download chart is noticeably less volatile.

Plus point: some newer hits will chart, e.g. Snoop & Justin who are already available for download but not on CD.

Minus point: it will weight things more to undemanding acts with wider generational appeal. Acts like the Sterephonics and Maroon 5 will probably hang around for many weeks.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 10:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, the download chart is going to see a US-ification of the top 40, not so much in content, but in the way that songs spend far too long laying about doing nothing. The US charts with hip-hop/R&B tracks replace by AOindie nonsense.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 10:42 (twenty-one years ago)

it is dead. we should let it go.

$V£N! (blueski), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 11:14 (twenty-one years ago)

And so, your historic first ever combined chart number one - yep, it's still Tony Christie, denying poor ickle Razorlight their first number one. Ciara's at 3, Elvis is #4, then some combination of Wusmiff, Mario, Fiddy and Mariah before the Freeloaders at nine. For the first time in yonks 'highest climber' almost becomes a usable term, except three songs have gone back up four - Jem, Phantom Planet and Basement Jaxx. Gorillaz are THE HISTORIC FIRST EVER SINGLE TO GET IN ON DOWNLOAD SALES at #22, behind Interpol at #19 and Anastacia at #21. Juliet is #24, Daft Punk have MASSIVE COMEBACK at #32, and the new entries are rounded out by Tiesto, Hal and Maroon 5, who occupy slots #37-39. The Faders are the first ever combined chart #40. Go The Faders.

Albumtastically speaking, Basement Jaxx are #1. New entries are Garbage (#4), Shakin' Stevens (#6), A-Ha's 'Definitive Singles Collection' (#14), Mel C (#24) and Olivia Newton-John (#27).

HISTORIC.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 17 April 2005 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Hurrah for the Jaxx! About bloody time they had a number one!!

I bought that Shakin' Stevens compilation last week so it's all my fault...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 18 April 2005 05:26 (twenty-one years ago)

You drive me crazy.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 18 April 2005 07:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I might.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 18 April 2005 07:32 (twenty-one years ago)

A few other points:

The Gorillaz only have the HISTORIC FIRST EVER SINGLE TO GET IN ON DOWNLOAD SALES because they exploited a loophole and issued 300 white labels last Monday, thus circumnavigating the idiotic rule which says that if you can't buy it in the shops as a physical single-shaped object, then it doesn't count. (The actual release date for the physical single-shaped object isn't until May 9th.)

The same idiotic rule means that two singles in last week's download-only Top 20 disappear from the new combined chart altogther: Snoop & Justin's "Signs" and The Caesars "Jerk It Out" (released today). But they're already hits! All over TV and radio, whistled on the streets etc etc. With a bit of luck, more Gorillaz-style loophole exploitation will render this rule inoperable before too long.

Several older singles have been kept significantly higher in the combined chart because of continued downloading by what I take to be the Trendy Dad demographic. (Market research info available: none. It's a hunch.) Basement Jaxx "Oh My Gosh" would have been at 45, but is now at 27. Stereophonics "Dakota" would have been at 46, but is now at 34. Other beneficiaries: Gwen Stefani, Studio B, Natalie Imbruglia, Jem, Phantom Planet. There are also re-entries between #40 and #75 for Kaiser Chiefs, The Bravery, Chemical Brothers "Galvanize", U2 "Sometimes...", Eminem "Like Toy Soldiers", Snoop/Pharrell and Athlete "Wires".

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 18 April 2005 07:54 (twenty-one years ago)

James Masterton makes a good point on the aforementioned idiotic "no pre-releases" rule:

"In response to the anguished mails I've received during the week, all I can say is that this is really not much of a surprise. Despite the new digital age, the charts are still reliant on the co-operation of the major high street retailers for much of their data - the same high street retailers who are scared stiff that online stores are killing off their trade for good. The OCC were therefore unlikely to embrace totally the concept of singles that cannot be bought in the shops, at least not just yet."

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 18 April 2005 07:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh for the halycon days of 1974 when seven new entries in one week were considered to be a landslide. I think I'm right in saying that the week when "Teenage Rampage" and "Tiger Feet" debuted at 6 and 10 respectively was the first time that two singles had debuted within the Top 10 in one week. I certainly remember Paul Burnett getting awfully excited about it at the time (i.e. he did his David Essex impression).

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 18 April 2005 07:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Tony Christie remains at number one, for the... sixth week now? That ties him with Where Is The Love?, I think one more week makes him the longest runner of the decade thus far. Elvis is at two, The Bodyrockers are #3, Nine Inch Nails get their biggest UK hit by miles at #7, with The Caesars at #8. Hard-Fi bore their way to #15, with Ja Rule (he's had a number one, you know) at #20. Editors #22, Rakes #24, Cribs #27, and the Levellers are #38. your highest climbers are The Stereophonics, up 3 to #31.

The album chart finds itself topped by Akon, somehow.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 24 April 2005 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Can't get over NIN at #7, and also surprised by the high-ish placings for Hard-Fi/Editors/Rakes. Interesting that the Gorillaz still qualify for inclusion (up 1 at 21); have they issued another tiny number of 7-inch copies this week?

(William: you should have mail, but I've had to take potshots at your Gmail address.)

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Sunday, 24 April 2005 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and Snoop/Justin to displace Tony Christie at #1 next week SURELY?

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Sunday, 24 April 2005 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Re the Gorillaz. Yes, apparently. One day we'll see one. Then buy it. Then sell it and buy a HOUSE!

mark grout (mark grout), Sunday, 24 April 2005 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

William, you will get mail later on tonight from me!

also: British public please fuck off and die.

Did anyone notice that 'My Friend Dario' didn't make the top 40 when it was released? Bastards. Like, fine, buy the fucking Bodyrockers for your dance kicks, wallow in mediocrity, see if I care any more.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 24 April 2005 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)

That'd be the Stylus UK Singles Jukebox Curse in full effect, then.

Fergal (Ferg), Sunday, 24 April 2005 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

There were (unexpectedly) dozens of copies of My Friend Dario in HMV in Doncaster but not a CD to be had, nor in Sheffield, or Leeds. There was one solitary CD the Virgin Megastore in Leeds.

Arular is not in the popcharts.

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Sunday, 24 April 2005 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

(um, dozens of copies on 12", that is, yes)

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Sunday, 24 April 2005 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

"Arular" is at #9 on the indie charts, which, at a rough guess, would put it around... #65 in the charts proper?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 24 April 2005 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, Arular was never going to be a straight-into-the-top-ten kind of album though. If it's going to be a success at all it'll be a slow burner.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 24 April 2005 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the phrase you're looking for Lex is "Mercury Music Prize Winner".

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 24 April 2005 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

You'll get an email from me too shortly WBS.

Tom (Groke), Sunday, 24 April 2005 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the phrase you're looking for Lex is "Mercury Music Prize Winner".

oh christ I hope not! oh I can't bear this.

I have just had a vision of the MIA debate still going strong in September. Gah!

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 24 April 2005 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

The MIA album did not make the Top 75 album chart.

Then again, the following albums re-entered:
28 - Nevermind
42 - Grace
49. Blue Lines
54. OK Computer

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 25 April 2005 05:25 (twenty-one years ago)

...and what's with Faithless "Insomnia" going in at 48 in the singles chart?

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 25 April 2005 06:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Whassthe rules here? I mean, what's the rules?

Say, people hear "Velouria" on an advert. Now, the single may not exactly be in the shop, but it could well still be on 4AD's 'singles available' list. Anyway, loads of bods say "Oh that's a cool track, I'm off to Napster or something to pay for a download". Does this qualify for the chart?

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 25 April 2005 07:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I have just had a vision of the MIA debate still going strong in September. Gah!

she'll probably start dressing up like a Geisha just to rub salt into the open wounds...


Tony and Elvis at the top really does seem to empthasise where the chart is going - more oldies, more repeats, the culmination of post millennial creative devolution vis a vis mass media/market appeal.

What if the trend continues and they re-release all the Beatles singles in a year or two?

I fear Vitalic is like Annie in that he suffers in the UK market what with being European AND 'serious pop'.

$V£N! (blueski), Monday, 25 April 2005 08:39 (twenty-one years ago)

They gave away Amarillo in one of the tabloids at the weekend - the Mirror I think - maybe that will put a dampener on things. I still like the song but I've heard it maybe once since Poptimism.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 25 April 2005 08:44 (twenty-one years ago)

But they are all buying the DVD single now...

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 25 April 2005 08:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I fear that Vitalic is like Annie in that nobody outside ILM gives a tinker's cuss about him.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 25 April 2005 09:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Explanation of "Insomnia"; it was reissued on 12" last week (as was "Salva Mea") as a trailer for upcoming Forever Faithless compilation.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 25 April 2005 09:23 (twenty-one years ago)

nobody outside ILM gives a tinker's cuss about him

yes but i'm interested in why that would be given they represent 'good pop' and 'good dance music' so well and both of those things have always been popular here. granted 'My Friend Dario' is quite hard sounding, but any more than 'Pow' or 'I Luv U' were?

$V£N! (blueski), Monday, 25 April 2005 09:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes they are popular here but I think they represent ILM's idea of good pop and good dance music as opposed to good pop and good dance music per se, and punters these days are increasingly suspicious about theory with their music.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 25 April 2005 09:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Vitalic I don't think are theory-tainted but at the moment it's stomping Bangalter-esque filter-house that sells in the commercial dance market, and that's not what they do. They might be ahead of their time.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 25 April 2005 09:53 (twenty-one years ago)

or it could just come down to 'Heartbeat' and 'My Friend Dario' not being on Radio 1 etc.'s daytime playlists, who knows...

Vitalic would've made for a fun interview on Popworld...

$V£N! (blueski), Monday, 25 April 2005 09:54 (twenty-one years ago)

(Vitalic only one man btw, although he sure SOUNDS like a mechanized legion (Techno cliche #217 fully evoked))

$V£N! (blueski), Monday, 25 April 2005 09:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Well things don't get onto the playlist by lottery Steve - they get there by informed consideration of where the market is, where it might be going and how much cash the record label is splashing around sundry other factors.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 25 April 2005 09:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the Vitalic album is a thing of wonder and easily the most danceable record I've heard this year but also realise that it's going to pass over the heads of all the Saturday afternoon Top Shoppers whose market-led choices dictate the content of the charts.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 25 April 2005 10:02 (twenty-one years ago)

The Editors allegedly got to #22 on the back of 4,000 sales.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 25 April 2005 10:40 (twenty-one years ago)

at this rate. if we release an ilm single we could go top 10*

jellybean (jellybean), Monday, 25 April 2005 11:34 (twenty-one years ago)

You aren't the first to say that.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 25 April 2005 11:37 (twenty-one years ago)

at this rate. if we release an ilm single we could go top 10*


The MIA album did not make the Top 75 album chart.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 25 April 2005 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I REALLY REALLY wish they would publish sales figures with the charts - it's ridiculous that they do not.

$V£N! (blueski), Monday, 25 April 2005 11:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyway, can you imagine us lot cramming onto the CD:UK stage? Wouldn't the spectacle cause the single to plummet down about 10,000 places on the following Sunday?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 25 April 2005 11:41 (twenty-one years ago)

What, like Morrissey singles?

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 25 April 2005 11:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Or, if you're our age, the later Gary Numan singles.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 25 April 2005 11:47 (twenty-one years ago)

(It loses the effect if you're dropping from number 34)

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 25 April 2005 11:51 (twenty-one years ago)

THE ILX SINGLE: DON'T BUY IT

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 25 April 2005 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)

7 weeks at number one for "Is This The Way To Amarillo". Cher must be sweating. Snoop/Wilson/Justin at #2, Elvis at 3, Destiny's Child paean to lesbianism is at #6, and The Tears go to #9. Bloc Party #13, Rooster are about to get dropped at #14, Athlete at #16, The Paddingtons at #25, Lindsay Lohan #27, Robert Plant #32, Black Rock #36. One of the dullest charts in recent memory?

Coldplay lead the download charts. Bother'd.

Albums: Broooce is at number one, which means he's now has as many number one albums in this decade as he did in the 80s. Gwen spends her 23rd week on the charts rising 7 to #8, STYLUS ALBUM OF THE WEEK "Blinking Lights and Other Revelations" by Eels is at #16, Mis-Teeq's ill-advised Greatest Hits #28, Hal 31 and Hot Hot Heat #34. Re-entries for KT Tunstall and Lucie Silvas, and, arguably, The Ceasars (#40).

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 1 May 2005 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Eels trumping Hot Hot Heat, truly 2003 is over. Worringly it seems to have been replaced by 1997.

elwisty (elwisty), Sunday, 1 May 2005 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Would Coldplay have made #1 if its downloads had been counted in singles?

Tom (Groke), Sunday, 1 May 2005 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Does 'amarillo' = Hell

sub-question: Is it a warning?

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Monday, 2 May 2005 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Tom - suspect not, Gorillaz' effectively 'download-only' entry a few weeks back was only at about #22 or thereabouts.

Coldplay will be involved in the biggest #1 battle of the year so far in three weeks time. 'Speed Of Sound' vs. 'One Thing'. That is when things start getting interesting again.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 2 May 2005 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)

IT IS OVER.

Or rather, Akon's knocked 'Amarillo' off the top spot. He tops the album chart too, which makes him the new Men At Work, or something. Eminem's utterly justifiably at #4, 'Beverley Hills' is completely deserving of being Weezer's first ever top ten single at #9, Li'l Jon is #10, The Killers are #11 and Faith Evans is #12, pretty much because someone had to be. Maxiiiimo Park (I can't work out how to do that umlaut thing) AREN'T QUITE AS BIG AS THE FUTUREHEADS YET, MILADDO at #15, and the Chemical Brothers are #18. Freefaller say goodbye with 'Good Enough For You' at #21, Dogs are #29, Idlewild are #32, Duke Spirit #33, A ARE BACK and they're #35, El Presidente are #37, and some format iffiness is THE ONLY CONCEIVABLE REASON that Lucie Silvas is only at #38.

In the world of the long-player, the Lonely man is king. Nine Inch Nails are #3, Robert Plant is #4, and the new Cream (Bearded Version) compilation is #6. The score to Revenge Of The Sith is #16, and oh look, Ryan Adams is #20. Good for him. Amerie's album debuts at 32, and James Blunt is #34. Ideally, the fact that he's named his album 'Back To Bedlam' is referencing Gallon Drunk, but I somehow doubt it.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 8 May 2005 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooh, ooh, Amerie has an album out over here? I might have to buy it just for "1 Thing" as P2P is all faked out (bastards) and I JUST CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT IT.

Lucie Silvas at #38? Really? Shocked. Really. And where are Art Brut? The curse of the Stylus UK Singles Jukebox strikes AGAIN...

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Sunday, 8 May 2005 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Eminem's utterly justifiably at #4, 'Beverley Hills' is completely deserving of being Weezer's first ever top ten single at #9

i don't even know if you are being sarcastic anymore but these are both the worst singles of both these artists' careers so far aren't they?

i feel like such a curmudgeonly rockist for hating on Akon but...no, it's just really fucking awful shit. why do people like helium-fed crooning so much? and if this is true why didn't Happy Hardcore take over the world? (i've been carping about this for ten years now so pay no mind). The next worst thing in the chart would be that appalling Bodyrockers song.

meanwhile staying on the subject of THEIR WORST SINGLE EVER, in a few weeks both Timo Maas and the Audio Bullys both release their own WORST SINGLE EVER.

$V£N! (blueski), Sunday, 8 May 2005 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

The Amerie album's OK but nothing more than OK. Stick with the single.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 9 May 2005 05:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Akon is the new Tony Christie, obviously. Except a billion times worse.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 9 May 2005 05:23 (twenty-one years ago)

It will be off the top next week.

..(won't it?)

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 9 May 2005 07:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Depends what else is out, I guess. Elvis appears to have left the building. Can we have a weekly KLF single reissue programme please?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 9 May 2005 07:15 (twenty-one years ago)

As James Masterton points out, it's all old geezers in the Top 3 (even without Elvis): Bobby Vinton at #1, Tony Christie at #2, Charlie Wilson from the Gap Band at #3.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 9 May 2005 08:32 (twenty-one years ago)

An "astoundingly mature and thought-provoking track"?

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 9 May 2005 08:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't understand the Akon hate, 'Lonely' isn't as good as 'Locked Up' but neither can I see anything remotely detestable about it. Although I will say: British public, you are weird, 'Signs' is unable to topple Amafuckingrillo but 'Lonely' is?

well done Lil Jon! I didn't expect such a good showing.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 9 May 2005 08:40 (twenty-one years ago)

"Lonely" may not be as good as "Locked Up."

But it could equally be argued that "Ballerina Girl" was not as good as "Dancing On The Ceiling."

It's all relative.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 9 May 2005 08:41 (twenty-one years ago)

There's actually one or two decent tracks on the Akon album, but those two little turds aren't them.

The Irrelevant Man (Negativa) (Barima), Monday, 9 May 2005 08:54 (twenty-one years ago)

why didn't Happy Hardcore take over the world?

It did, it's no-one's noticed yet.

(This is a serious proposition by the way!)

alext (alext), Monday, 9 May 2005 09:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Evidence to back up your proposition, please ("The Logical Song" by Scooter does not, in itself, count).

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 9 May 2005 09:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I like "Mr Lonely" a lot.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 9 May 2005 10:16 (twenty-one years ago)

It's allowed. But for me it's not as good as either ELO's "Mr Blue Sky" or "Lonely Woman" by Ornette Coleman.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 9 May 2005 10:18 (twenty-one years ago)

But it is better than "Mr Brightside" or "So Lonely".

Tom (Groke), Monday, 9 May 2005 10:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh come on, you can't deny the power of Sting's nimble basslines and Summers' searing guitar chords!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 9 May 2005 10:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Next week Oasis will be #1, most likely. Then the week after that either Amerie or Coldplay. Dunno what happens then.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 9 May 2005 10:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh bugger, I forgot Amerie was up against Coldplay. What a shame. "1 Thing" is what I wanted the White Stripes to sound like.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 9 May 2005 10:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Dunno what happens then.

Bono casts off his facade and stands revealed as Darth Hideous, last of the Sith and conqueror of the universe.

The Irrelevant Man (Negativa) (Barima), Monday, 9 May 2005 10:57 (twenty-one years ago)

zzzz

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 9 May 2005 11:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, today Akon got his second week as number one, holding off the 18-place climb of Damon Albarn Subverts The Chart System. Game & Fiddy were at 4, The Coral's ice cream van rolled in at #6, and Kelly Osbourne is number nine.

Ha-what carrr, what currrb, what gurrrl, what tree etc. - #12, one ahead of KT Tunstall who for sake of irony appears to be signed to Relentless ('Black Horse And The Cherry Tree' was very good, but this... urgh).

Doves are #17, Praise Cats take 'Theme From ITV Nightscreen' to #24, and, for the second year running, the Futureheads enter at #26 with 'Decent Days & Nights' as 'Carnival Kids' silently curses on the sidelines.

Anyway, remember The Stands? They're #28, two spots ahead of Ludacris, whose UK team can console themselves with the fact that this still probably makes him more popular than Chingy. Rounding out the new entries at #34 is Juliette F'IN RAWWWWK GRRRR BAY-BEH Lewis and The Licks.

New album chart number one, though... oh hang on, it's Steve Brookstein. His next single's a cover of 'Dance With My Father' and if I ever have to hear it I can make no guarantee of the consequences. Climbers run riot in the top ten - Stefani, Athlete, Kaisers, Fiddy and Tunstall all make ascents at the expense of Springsteen, Christie, Shaky and Reznor LOOK IT'S LIKE A POP VERSION OF LOGAN'S RUN or something. Weezer are new at 11 (their highest album chart position ever, previous peak being #16 for... Maladroit. Hmm), Morcheeba are #17, Teenage Fanclub soldier on at #34 and Mylo's album surprisingly pops into the top 40 for the first time at #39.

Next week - Amerie vs. Coldplay. Ooooh.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 15 May 2005 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh no, hang on, next week it's the zombie corpse onslaught. THEN it's Amerie vs. Coldplay. Time's a bitch, innit?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 15 May 2005 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, James Blunt's album went up 18 places to 16. I'm suspecting the hand of Parkinson.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 15 May 2005 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

When the hell is England going to wake up and smell the Brooke Valentine?

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Sunday, 15 May 2005 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)

chart show could be dropped by R1?

zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 16 May 2005 12:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Um, how much does a chart show cost? By comparison to say, Moyles' contract?

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 16 May 2005 12:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Obvious solution; move the chart show to Radio 2, restore it to its proper format and get Someone With Proper Authority to present it (I'll put in a reference for Swygart, if they're interested).

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 16 May 2005 12:33 (twenty-one years ago)

.. which is the most likely outcome, if anything changes at all.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 16 May 2005 12:34 (twenty-one years ago)

The contracts for JK and Joel won't be where the savings come from as they'll get a continued "zoo" format show I'm sure. It's the money to the Official Charts Company, who sell on the chart data to Radio 1, that will be cut. Which means the OCC will have very little reason to keep on producing the charts at all.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 16 May 2005 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, like I say, I'm sure they could negotiate something with the R2 people. It would be an immense improvement on their current unsatisfactory Sunday schedule (Elaine Paige? Lulu? What were they thinking?).

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 16 May 2005 12:44 (twenty-one years ago)

That would have worked if the downloadization of the charts had made it a bit more R2-friendly but as it stands it would be a whacking great load of Akon just where Radio 2 don't want it.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 16 May 2005 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Sigh, if only Resonance FM had some dosh...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 16 May 2005 12:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I presume Gorillaz remarkable ascent is due to official download power?

$V£N! (blueski), Monday, 16 May 2005 12:57 (twenty-one years ago)

More likely due to "Music From EMI" official spending power.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 16 May 2005 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Blimey, the days when records would jump from 20 to 2 and it would be an actual event...Heard Ian Hunter on the radio the other day and he was saying that even though "Roll Away The Stone" only got to number eight or something in '73, it still sold half a million. Certainly puts the current situation into perspective.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 16 May 2005 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)

This week sees the hit parade topped by 'Lyla', Oasis' tribute to the "EHHHH" noise Nigel Blackwell makes at the end of the live version of 'All I Want For Christmas Is A Dukla Prague Away Kit'. Black Eyed Peas are #3 and J-Lo is #6, which seems about right, really. Max Graham's remix of 'Owner Of A Lonely Heart' gives Yes their second highest chart position ever at #9, and the top 10 is rounded out by Kaiser Chiefs, edging Rob Thomas into #11 with Mylo at #13. Javine's chart position exactly matches her points tally from last night, i.e. 18, but she's ahead of Stevie Wonder (#19) and New Order (#20), which must count for something. 'So What The Fuss' is Stevie's first top 40 hit in which he's the main performer for just over ten years, by the way, and his first top 20 for nearly 20 years.

Gadjo are #22, and Turin Brakes HAVE FAILED at #32. YEeeees. Hot Hot Heat are #36, Stonebridge and Ultra Nate are #37, and Ian McNabb completes the set 1t #38.

ALL-NEW TOP THREE IN THE ALBUMS!

#3 - VAN MORRISON!

#2 - SYSTEM OF A DOWN!

#1... Faithless. Oh.

"Elvis By The Presleys" is your confusingly titled #13, and Maximo Park come a respectable 15th. Faith Evans is #23, My Chemical Romance's slow and irksome ascent continues at #35, and dipping under the tape at #40 - The Duke Spirit.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 22 May 2005 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

So, have Yes done TOTP or CD:UK yet? Well, we can dream.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Sunday, 22 May 2005 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/totpperf/search.pl?attribute=artist&name=Yes&type=totp2&offset=0&mode=quick&dosubmit=1

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 22 May 2005 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Lyla seems poppy and harmless enough, but I don't think it will stand the test of time. Naybe its bubblegum-combined-with-Who-esque qualities will save it, I dunno.

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 22 May 2005 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

IT'S THE FROG WOT WON IT, presumably by a quite embarrassing margin. Coldplay are #2, Amerie wound up at #4, Gwen was #8 and The Audio Bullys... ugh... #9. Magic Numbers were melodic and stuff at #15, My Chemical Romance were probably more melodic than people would care to think at #20, and that Theme From Star Wars thing is yr #25, squeezing the Arcade Fire into the #26 slot. 2 places ahead of Brian McFadden. HA.

the 31-40 slots feature Nine Black Alps at #31, British Sea Power's best ever chance of an actual top 10 single at #34, and, at #40, keeping not only Daniel Bedingfield but also The Bravery out of the top 40, it's... SONS AND DAUGHTERS! Yissss. I might buy the album to celebrate, 'cept it's not out till next week. But still. Eat that, quiffo.

The albums chart sees everyone getting toasted under The Gorilla(z). Coral #3, Audioslave #5, and in between them is the ever inexorable climb of James bloody Blunt. John Legend re-enters the chart at #32, Alkaline Trio are new at #34, Common is #38, and in the Duke Spirit Slot, it's the Belle & Sebastian EP collection.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 29 May 2005 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

that's 34 innit?

elwisty (elwisty), Sunday, 29 May 2005 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

The Duke Spirit Slot = #40.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 29 May 2005 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Week 2 for The Frog. Highest new entry are the Foo Fighters at #4, with Akon and Gorillaz climbing to 2 and 3 respectively. Sweet mudder o' Christ. White Stripes #9, James Blunt #12, Funeral For A Friend get what must be their fourth top 20 single in a row at #15, Ben Adams #18. Geri is OVERRR at #22, but not quite as OVERRR as the Noise Next Door - #27, one ahead of Embrace. Groove Coverage's cover of Poison is #32, and the top 40 is rounded out by a re-entry for Studio B's 'I See Girls', climbing from 44 to 40. This is ahead of new entries from The Kills, Faithless, Moby and Timo Maas. Oh, and 888, but I don't know who they are.

Woysis are the new #1 album, B-E-P #4, Turin Brakes #9, Rob Thomas #11. The Beach Boys 'Platinum Collection' is #30, and in the Duke Spirit Slot, Keith Urban.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 5 June 2005 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I've decided that James Blunt is a complete cunt. Maybe him and the "Is This The Way To Armadillo" guy could get together with Billy Bragg and Terence Trent D'Arby to form an "ex-army tossers" supergroup?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 5 June 2005 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

squeezing the Arcade Fire into the #26 slot. 2 places ahead of Brian McFadden. HA.

the 31-40 slots feature Nine Black Alps at #31, British Sea Power's best ever chance of an actual top 10 single at #34, and, at #40, keeping not only Daniel Bedingfield but also The Bravery out of the top 40, it's... SONS AND DAUGHTERS!

Haha, I've only just noticed this! Superb. The failure of the dullards, rather than 9 Black Alps doing well.

M Philip O'Nyman (Ferg), Sunday, 5 June 2005 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

leave Billy outta this Dom...

elwisty (elwisty), Sunday, 5 June 2005 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

"Sign Your Name" > "Milkman of Human Kindness"

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 5 June 2005 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Serious question: is there any evidence yet (I'm interested in even circumstantial bits and bobs) that adding in the download sales figures has adversely affected the chart placing of any particular type of record?

I haven't been studying this closely but I'm sure someone has.

Jeff W (zebedee), Monday, 6 June 2005 11:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Only thing I spotted is that midweek falls for guitar acts seem to be sharper now - Maximo Park, for instance, from #6 to #15. Guitar bands getting in the top 20 is definitely a much bigger achievement than it used to be.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 6 June 2005 11:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm amazed the chart was able to complete itself this week. I thought it might get up to #37 and think 'oh what's the point' and piss off down the pub to chuck all of it's savings down the quizzer.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 6 June 2005 11:58 (twenty-one years ago)

It was '84, and I think Bruno Brookes was doing the chart show at the time, and he said "Two Tribes has outsold the rest of this week's Top 40 put together, so you don't need to bother listening this week really." So I didn't.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 6 June 2005 12:00 (twenty-one years ago)

And if Bruno Brookes asked you to don sackcloth, smear animal blood on your face and proclaim 'the dawn of the seventh age of the Arcturians' at the next full moon, would ye?

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 6 June 2005 12:04 (twenty-one years ago)

The rest of that week's Top 40 was rubbish, is why I didn't bother listening.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 6 June 2005 12:16 (twenty-one years ago)

It was 1984, one of the best years for pop ever, so I refuse to believe there wasn't other good new songs out that week.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 6 June 2005 12:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Look for yourself:

1 Frankie Goes To Hollywood Two Tribes
2 Nik Kershaw I Won't Let The Sun Go Down On Me
3 Wham! Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go
4 Bronski Beat Smalltown Boy
5 Frankie Goes To Hollywood Relax
6 Michael Jackson Farewell My Summer Love
7 Elton John Sad Songs (Say So Much)
8 Spandau Ballet Only When You Leave
9 Pointer Sisters Jump (For My Love)
10 Evelyn Thomas High Energy
11 Sister Sledge Thinking Of You
12 Art Company Susanna
13 Howard Jones Pearl In The Shell
14 Ollie & Jerry Breakin'... There's No Stoppin' Us
15 Grandmaster & Melle Mel White Lines (Don't Don't Do It)
16 Smiths Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now
17 Cyndi Lauper Time After Time
18 Ultravox Dancing With Tears In My Eyes
19 Change Change Of Heart
20 Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark Talking Loud And Clear
21 Hazell Dean Searchin' (I Gotta Find A Man)
22 Ozzy Osbourne So Tired
23 Deniece Williams Let's Hear It For The Boy
24 Scritti Politti Absolute
25 Style Council Groovin' E.P. (You're The Best Thing/Big Boss Groove)
26 Alvin Stardust I Feel Like Buddy Holly
27 Lionel Richie Stuck On You
28 Elvis Costello & The Attractions I Wanna Be Loved/Turning The Town Red
29 Madness One Better Day
30 Duran Duran The Reflex
31 Rod Stewart Infatuation
32 Lloyd Cole & The Commotions Perfect Skin
33 Nick Heyward Love All Day
34 Bananarama Rough Justice
35 Gary Glitter Dance Me Up
36 Queen I Want To Break Free
37 Alison Moyet Love Resurrection
38 Human League Life On Your Own
39 Billy Joel Goodnight Saigon/Leave A Tender Moment Alone
40 Pointer Sisters Automatic

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 6 June 2005 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Looks good enough to me, though I don't know how many were new entries or high climbers.

I bought a couple of Record Mirrors from 88/89 the other day via eBay. This time 18 years ago you'd have only one new entry in the top 20.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 6 June 2005 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

But half the chart would consist of climbers, some having entered from outside the 40.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 6 June 2005 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

In those days you usually got about five or six new entries in the top 40 per week - the old days of records entering at low positions and steadily climbing up the chart to their peak (even if Two Tribes did go straight in at the top). Most Top 40 new entries did so from positions outside the 40 - only big name acts tended to go straight into the 40 first week of release. Records like Relax and White Lines hung around the 41-75 region for months on end before breaking through into the main chart. Qualitatively, though, I'd say it was definitely a comedown from the halycon days of '81/2.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 6 June 2005 12:34 (twenty-one years ago)

TIME AFTER TIME

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Monday, 6 June 2005 12:35 (twenty-one years ago)

That was another one. They put that out as a single straight after "Girls Just Wanna..." in March or thereabouts, and again it bubbled under for about three months before breaking the 40.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 6 June 2005 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

By way of contrast, this week:

1) Crazy Frog - Axel F
2) Akon - Lonely
3) Gorillaz - Feel Good Inc.
4) Foo Fighters - Best Of You*
5) Amerie - One Thing
6) Black Eyed Peas - Don't Phunk With My Heart
7) Coldplay - Speed Of Sound
8) Gwen Stefani - Hollaback Girl
9) White Stripes - Blue Orchid*
10) Audio Bullys - Shot You Down
11) Tony Christie - (Is This The Way To) Amarillo
12) James Blunt - You're Beautiful*
13) The Game ft. 50 Cent - Hate It Or Love It
14) Oasis - Lyla
15) Funeral For A Friend - Streetcar*
16) Bodyrockers - I Like The Way
17) Snoop Dogg - Signs
18) Ben Adams - Sorry
19) Will Smith - Switch
20) Jennifer Lopez - Hold You Down
21) Max Graham vs. Yes - Owner Of A Lonely Heart
22) Geri Halliwell - Desire*
23) Rob Thomas - Lonely No More
24) The Coral - In The Morning
25) Kaiser Chiefs - Everyday I Love You Less And Less
26) Eminem - Mockingbird
27) The Noise Next Door - She Might*
28) Embrace - Glorious Day*
29) Mylo - In My Arms
30) Kelly Osbourne - One Word
31) My Chemical Romance - Helena
32) Groove Coverage - Poison*
33) Magic Numbers - Forever Lost
34) 50 Cent - Candy Shop
35) Destiny's Child - Girl
36) KT Tunstall - Other Side Of The World
37) Mario - Let Me Love You
38) Ciara - 1 2 Step
39) Stevie Wonder - So What The Fuss
40) Studio B - I See Girls

Now, I've no idea who Art Company are, but I'd reckon they're a damn sight better than this week's #12.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 6 June 2005 12:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah yes, "Susanna" by the Art Company, that summer's cheesy Eurohit. You know "Live Is Life" is Opus - well it was a bit like that, a handclapping bierkeller singalong (I can't remember whether they were French or German or...?) whose chorus went: "Su-SAAA-na! I'm crazy loving YOU!" You're right though; definitely better than Mr Blunt (now, "Mr Blunt" by Kissing The Pink - there's a lost '80s pop classic...).

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 6 June 2005 12:45 (twenty-one years ago)

That Art Company thing was like Paul McCartney making it up as he went along, and just so the audience could sing along, picked really easy and obvious words for them...

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 6 June 2005 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Whereas the James Blunt song just wants hitting with a really big stick. Some of these head-to-heads should be outlawed by the Geneva Convention, though - 'Smalltown Boy' vs. 'Best Of You', 'Dancing With Tears In My Eyes' vs. 'Sorry', 'Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now' vs. 'I Like The Way'... brr. '1 Thing' vs. 'Relax' would be a very interesting contest, but that's about it.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 6 June 2005 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Number of singles in the 1984 Top 40 which I like in some way: 24.
Number of singles in the 2005 Top 40 which I like in some way: 21.

So far, it's a draw.

Number of singles in the 1984 Top 40 which I LOVE: 12.
Number of singles in the 2005 Top 40 which I LOVE: 7.

Ah.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 6 June 2005 13:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anyone know of a site that lists ABSOLUTELY EVERY single released in the UK on a weekly basis? Someone somewhere could at least scan in the pages from Music Week or something.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 6 June 2005 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Readers will be delighted to learn that "Crazy Frog" is toppermost of the poppermost for a third consecutive week, holding off U2's third consecutive single from their current album which debuts in second place. James Blunt goes up from 12 to 6, Audio Bullys back up from 10 to 7, Jamiroquai in at 8, Pondlife at 11, Ordinary Boys 16, UB40 19. Saint Etienne are in at 36 (their biggest hit in four years, then).

In the album chart, Coldplay's third album Be Here Now debuts comfortably at 1, having flogged 464,000 copies to get there, thus demoting Oasis to 2. Back catalogue returns to positions 19 (Parachutes) and 23 (Rush Of Blood) thanks to Tescos special offers. The White Stripes' not-all-that-bad-actually new album goes in at 3. Yet another ELO comp enters at 11. The Tears only managed 15 (and deserved better). The Kraftwerk live double crawls in at 28. Roll Deep roll in at 50. Sons & Daughters at 70.

But who are Avenged Sevenfold, who enter at 63 with City of Evil?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 13 June 2005 10:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Avenged Sevenfold are another bunch of kohl-eyed US "issues" rockers, a la AFI or The Used.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 13 June 2005 11:05 (twenty-one years ago)

M. Shadows - Vocals
Zacky Vengeance - Guitar
Synyster Gates - Lead Guitar
The Reverend - Drums
Johny Christ - Bass

(i am not joking)

zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 13 June 2005 11:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Where does all that stuff I see on Channel U ('COr Blimey!' 'Ave Somma Dat, GET MEH GET MEH!') get in the charts??


a decent-ish release schedule is here. What I want is a list like that but for EVERY single each week, with a 30 second audio clip of EVERY single on the list. I may well try and set this up myself.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 13 June 2005 11:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Channel U's great, isn't it? The Top 40 needs the Mitchell Brothers, right now.

Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Monday, 13 June 2005 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)

What I want is a list like that but for EVERY single each week, with a 30 second audio clip of EVERY single on the list.
yeah, come on DJ Martian put all that energy to some use for once!

OMG, i just saw on that list stevem linked to that coming next week is:
2 Pac ft. Elton John - 'Ghetto Gospel'
>8-O

zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 13 June 2005 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Also in singles: John Legend not bothering with the UK any more at #27, Good Charlotte #30, The Departure remain utterly pointless at #33, Ashanti #38, Audioslave #40. Peculiarly, Billy Corgan's solo single - #74.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 16 June 2005 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)

That J.Legend single to make its way up the chart? Or just the album to.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Fourth week for the Frog, no? New nod for Frog-Slayer = James Blunt, who's managed to climb to #2 and gets added to the Radio 1 playlist as his reward. Just behind him are the Audio Bullys. Highest new entry is Nelly (#6), with DJ Sammy at #7, Green Day at #8 and Fightstar at #9. Jem Is Primarily An Album Artist at #16, and By The Power Of Reality TV Shakin' Stevens is #20. Garbage #24, Basement Jaxx #26, Cribs #27 Dead 60zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... #28. And Slipknot are #35. Note also that 'I See Girls' by Studio B is continuing to hurtle back up the charts - from out of the top 40 three weeks ago it's now at #25.

Album wise everything continues to come up Coldplay. Foo Fighters #2, Magic Numbers #7 (is it worth getting?), the reissue of Jeff Wayne's 'War Of The Worlds' gets to #8. I somehow suspect that didn't get played on the top 40 programme. Backstreet Boys #11, Funeral For A Friend #12, UB40 #20, a Rory Gallagher collection is #31 and Ry Cooder is the lowest new entry at #35. In The Duke Spirit Slot, Scissor Sisters.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 19 June 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

the reissue of Jeff Wayne's 'War Of The Worlds' gets to #8

OOLAAAAAA!

Tom (Groke), Sunday, 19 June 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

I would be excited about the prospect of songs rising and peaking rather than going straight in if these "songs" weren't by James fucking Blunt.

elwisty (elwisty), Sunday, 19 June 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

Thinking about it, 'Hit Me Baby...' isn't actually reality TV at all. Enh.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 19 June 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

Admittedly not a top 40 concern, but: in the albums, St Etienne have scored a top 72 SMASH! yeah! oh.

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Sunday, 19 June 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

Yes the Magic Numbers album is worth buying.

The Saint Etienne album is perhaps worth buying ahead of anything else released so far this year and its abysmal chart performance speaks volumes for the kind of year 2005 has been.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 20 June 2005 05:24 (twenty years ago)

Also, album chart wooden spoon award to Eno, whose first vocal album for 28 years debuts at 75.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 20 June 2005 07:47 (twenty years ago)

Plucky Roisin Murphy has missed out altogether.

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Monday, 20 June 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

The plentiful quantities of the Roisin Murphy album I noticed in MVE over the weekend seem to bear this out.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 20 June 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

No sign of Kano then :(

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 20 June 2005 11:06 (twenty years ago)

The Kano album doesn't come out until next Monday.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 20 June 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)

That eno's first chart hit, then?

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 20 June 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)

The Kano single, however, was #71. To be fair, it wasn't particularly great.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 20 June 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)

(xpost)

Nope. Warm Jets made #26 in March '73; Life In The Bush Of Ghosts #29 in Feb '81.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 20 June 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)

ah, Brian eno. How easy to forget.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 20 June 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

IT'S GLASTONBURY WEEKEND LET'S ALL GO AND LISTEN TO KASABIAN IN THE MIDDLE OF A FIELD.

Anyway, the big story this week is that Tupac Amaru Shakur follows in the footsteps of Jim Reeves and Enya by having a post-humour number one, as him and Elton John's run through of "Ghetto Gospel" displaces Chris Martin Hates Crazy Frog at the top of the charts. I'm so glad Biggie was a very ugly man, or else he might have been subject to this treatment as well.

"You're Beautiful" by James Blunt, the only single ever where the chart placings are more interesting than the actual song is at #3, and so probably won't make it to the top. Bobby Valentino was both a) the name of the guy that played fiddle on the Bluebells "Young At Heart" and b) an upcoming R&B sensation who is at #4. MVP "rock" your "body" at #5, with Missy being at #7. HOT NEW GUITAR ACT Hard-Fi have the worst fucking name ever and a #9 single, one place ahead of HE'S BEEN SHOT 74 TIMES.

Stereophonics continue the great tradition of brilliant songs called "Superman" at #13, Bizarre charts with what must be one of the five worst singles of the year so far at #17, The Subways new single "Would You Like That As A Meal Deal" is #22, and Damien Rice, the original James Blunt, is #24.

Erasure are still old and half gay at #25, and Gavin De Graw is at #38 and probably won't bother coming over here to promote anything then.

Missing the top 40 this week: Be Your Own Pet, the rerelease of "Come Up And See Me (Make Me Smile)", Ladytron, Tom Vek, and MIA.


Albumswise, Coldplay stay at #1, with Jamiroquai new in at #3. I refuse to believe anyone still cares about Jamiroquai in 2005. A Sam Cooke best of is at #26, with "Elvis - 30 Number 1 Hits" in the Duke Spirit slot.

Have you noticed how that in the "WG Grace rises from the grave and talks a load of shit about cricket" advert, the girl standing in front of him is wearing a Rammstein tee-shirt? Rammstein, those well known supporters of British cricket.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 26 June 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

MIA was put back - I didn't see it in the shops, and HMV.co.uk now says it'll be released on 11 July.

I didn't realise Hard-Fi were this popular. Top ten?! This saddens me.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 26 June 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

The Rakes song Work, Work, Work is really weak. Why is it even on NME's weekly chart?

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 26 June 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

Another top 45 smash for Ladytron! Moby, Pulp and the La's are nudged back into the album chart via lovely old HMV offering them for £2.99 apiece.

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Sunday, 26 June 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

That James Blunt single is fucking disgusting.

I doubt TOTP will even play the Missy video for longer than 20 seconds.

fandango (fandango), Sunday, 26 June 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

Tupac holds Charlotte Church down at the top, as James Blunt overtakes The Frog for the first time at #3. Backstreet's back at #8, Mario is #11, and The Faders commemorate the terrestrial premiere of Josie & The Pussycats (which isn't really much cop, is it?) by being #21. The Tears are #24, Feeder #30, Alkaline Trio #32, Royksopp #33, and Soulwax close it out at #35. That whole climbing back up thing is weird - Bodyrockers are #15, and they've been in the chart for eleven weeks. Hmm.

Coldplay still number one. Lots of albums climb post-Glastonbury (all the ones you'd expect), with the bizarre exception of The Magic Numbers who fall out of the top ten for the first time at #25. One new entry - Kano is #36. The Duke Spirit Slot - 'Compact Snap' by Jam. I know it not.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 3 July 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

Oh, The Jam... obviously, heh-heh... heh... heh... hmm. Yes.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 3 July 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

Brooke Valentine's album was number 36 in woolworths and is not anywhere in Actual Fact.

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Sunday, 3 July 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

BRITAIN SHALL NEVER BE BOWED BY A FOREIGN MENACE and as a result that Blitz/Dunkirk/whatever spirit sees Tupac and Reggie D take a third week at number one, holding off Mariah's "We Belong Together". James Blunt is still hovering around the top 3, in the same way most ex-service hang aroung town centre shops that have a doorway at night so they can get some shelter from the rain whilst they sleep.

Kelly "Kinda funny looking" Clarkson rocks them up at #5, Kanye is still rubbish at #8, and Rachel Stevens must be suspecting that her record label are searching through their Rolodex for Hannah's home phone number at #10.

Joss Stone asks us if we want to ride her puppyfat jailbait manfaced body at #20, Razorlight rerelease "Somewhere Else" to get at #30 (note to indie bands: please stop rereleasing your early singles because you're too fucking lazy to record a new album. kthx), Joey Crack and Nelly... Nelly make #34, Britain doesn't care about Brooke Valentine at #35, Live8 sees both U2 and Snoop make re-entries with MP3 sales at #37 and #39, and Daft Punk are at #40 for no real reason whatsoever.

17 weeks on the chart for "Is This The Way To Amarillo?", but even more impressively is the 16th week for "Switch".

Album charts, James Blunt reascends to #1 on account of being plastered on every fucking bus in Leeds, Hard-Fi debut their GRITTY URBAN REALISM at #6, Royksopp are at #13, The Offspring's greatest hits is #14, and Pink Floyd re-enter thanks to Live 8 at #19. R Kelly #23, and more Live 8 re-entry fun for the Scissor Sisters at #25.

The Subways, who were meant to be big a few months ago, stubmle to #32 with their album, and Missy debuts at #33. Joss Stone #37, a Sam Cooke best of at #38, and the Duke Spirit slot for this week is filled by Fiddy Sen.

Those failing to make the top 40 this week include Beck, Brendan Benson, Cookie, and The Mystery Jets.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 10 July 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

Er, the Razorlight is a climber as well.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 10 July 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

Back To Bedlam is now officially the No Parlez of the 21st century.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 06:46 (twenty years ago)

I'll agree, as soon as I hear anything as good as "Love of the common people" or James Blouse does a Joy Division (or the closest current approximation) cover.

ah ah James Blouse. I crease myself up, I really do.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 06:55 (twenty years ago)

Tupac toppled by... JAMES FUCKING BLUNT. Yes, 'Yaw Byudde-faww' has finally reached the top spot, becoming the first song to climb to number one since the last one that did. I forget what that was. Oh yes, Steve Brookstein. Marvellous. Elton John's song from Billy Elliott is #4, Inaya Day #9, Deep Dish #14 and Editors #18. Approximately two months after appearing in the Stylus Jukebox, the Raveonettes get to #26, one ahead of REM. Rooster's future hangs in the balance at #29, and hopefully the same is true of The Paddingtons, who are #32. Lemon Jelly #33, The Kooks #35 (don't ask me, I've no idea), and Idlewild #39.

Blunt also mercilessly crushes the album chart in a slightly limp manner. The Church isn't as good as she's meant to be at #5, and The Very Best Of The Gipsy Kings is #32. Missy's in the Duke Spirit slot.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 17 July 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

I actually really like that Editors single. Sad, ish.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 17 July 2005 22:00 (twenty years ago)

James Blunt is at #1- the terrorists have won.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 17 July 2005 22:03 (twenty years ago)

And by "terrorists" I mean "people who buy CDs at supermarkets".

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 17 July 2005 22:06 (twenty years ago)

Band From Brighton. Brighton's Kooks are that rarest of pop entities: a scuzzy, fresh-faced group to fully restore your faith in the holy grail of English

That's what Google gives me, I have no desire to visit their site to find out more.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 17 July 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

I downloaded there song today. It's not bad, in fact it's rather good. You'll hate it.

The Jive Session (elwisty), Sunday, 17 July 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)

James Blunt should be sent out to defeat the terrorists like he used to get paid to (sort of).

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Sunday, 17 July 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)

Cheers, download chart.

Tom (Groke), Sunday, 17 July 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

Week 2 for the people's champion, with Mariah ambling up to two. Lee Ryan's the highest new entry at #3. This could well be the soppiest top 3 ever, and then in stomps Daddy Yankee at 5, narrowly out-bloking Weller - sorry, THE MODFARVAH - who's #6. Kelly and Charlo are 7 & 8, and at #9 it's MVP, spending their fifth week not being noticed in the top 10. The Frog edges Roll Deep into #11, while down the bottom end Bloc Party (#18) and perhaps more surprisingly Maximo Park (#20) each get their third consecutive top 20 single. The thought has crossed my mind that if I was about five or six years younger Maximo Park would probably be my favourite band right now. Hmm.

After 13 weeks The Bodyrockers finally leave the top 20 (#23), which is 12 weeks more than Elton managed (#22). Oh, and Mario's second single is #24, and has apparently been around for 4 weeks. How?

Most hilarious new entry - the Olympic Spirit propels Heather Small's 'Proud' to the giddy heights of #33, three places ahead of InMe, who appear not to have gone away. Bollocks. In what I've decided to call the Sons & Daughters slot, 'Somewhere Else' re-enters for the second time.

Blunty's still topping the albums too, this week holding off a challenge from The Essential Michael Jackson (#2), while Our Kelly's new at #10. I am tempted to get that, akcherley, cos Behind These Hazel Eyes is rather boss too. 'Encore' re-enters at 29, just ahead of Queen Live At Wembley Stadium '86. Stephen Fretwell gets his first taste of RED HOT TOP 40 ACTION at #34, and the Game re-enters at #39. This week's Duke Spirit Slot is filled by Pink Floyd's best of.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 24 July 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

Hurrah for 'Gasolina'!

I quite like that MVP song in that it's a 57th-rate 'Pon De Replay' but I may as well enjoy having it around until PDR actually gets released.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 24 July 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

To clarify - 16-y-o me would probably have Going Missing as their favourite single at the moment, but not Maximo Park as their favourite band. I'd like to think he'd have enough skillz to realise how much better The Futureheads are.

16-y-o me was a bit of a tosser, though.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 24 July 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

Christ only knows what 16-yr-old me would have been into. Who is the 2005 equivalent of Tori Amos? I would possibly have turned out COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 24 July 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

A little addendum to the H-Bomb - 'Proud' originally made #16. In May 2000.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 24 July 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

I see that the Church of Charlotte's album has plummeted from 5 to 12. Questions will be asked in the (BMG) House.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 25 July 2005 07:19 (twenty years ago)

3 weeks of Bluntery, and who's that at #2? Daniel Powter? Oh... happy... yeah. #4 - 'Ass Like That'. Hands up if you got out at the right time? 'Since U Been Gone' (#6) and 'Roc Ya Body (Mic Check 1,2)' (#8) ingrain themselves a bit further, and Crazy Frog (#10) has its tenth week in the top ten. 10-20 is a land of rather good - Bananarama #14, Uniting Nations #15, and the thoroughly ace if occasionally inappropriately stuttering Dancing DJs vs Roxette #18. Nine Inch Nails are #20 but I've no idea about that one.

Martin Solveig is inevitably #22, Imbruglia is unremarkably #23, and Tony Christie finds himself at #26 with 'Avenues & Alleyways'. Deserved rather a bit more, unlike El Presidente (#30), Lucie Silvas (#34) and Madness (#38). After 19 weeks, 'Switch' is in the Sons & Daughters Slot.

In the albums, Blunt is still Men At Work. Crazy Frog is #5, seven ahead of the acoustic re-drubbing of Jagged Little Pill, and eight ahead of Editors. Jem is in the Duke Spirit Slot.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 31 July 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

Cunt and Powter AND 'Ass Like That' all in the top 4?

Worst top 4 EVER, surely?

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 31 July 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

So this thread's been getting left outside alone lately, and the reason why is still at #1. And still at #2. And still at #3. Ciara's new at #4 and, unnoticed, Our Kelly's crept up to #5... c'mon the residuals! They've even re-packaged her album with 'Miss Independent' on, because that's the only other song of hers that there's a cat in hell's chance anyone over here might be aware of the existence! Texas are at #6! Girl Power! And the Game's at #8.

Moment of silence for MVP leaving the top ten (#11).

And on that topic - which'll leave the top 20 first, the Frog (#13) or the Gorillaz (#17)? Seems straightforward - but the Gorillaz have been around for 17 weeks now. Hmm.

Lemar's our next new entry at #21, and a cursory glance to #23 -

actually, that would involve ignoring Fading Like A Flower being at #22, which would be bad and wrong, wouldn't it? EVERYTIME I! EVERYTIME I! EVERYTIME I! EVERYTIME I! Oh I try! To! Hideaway! But when we meet it seems I Can't! Let! Go! (Can'tletgo!)

- but yes, #23 and the Bodyrockers have climbed back up two spots, presumably off the back of being for the music for The Least Comprehensible Advert Of All Time, i.e. the one with Fran Cosgrave clicking his fingers and sounding like a big Oirish Perrrrve. This is worrying.

The Rakes! Hooray for the Rakes, they're #28, while at #31 are Kaiser Chiefs, with a re-entry for 'I Predict A Riot'. The thing is is that I don't think the official re-release of their single has actually happened yet, so presumably it's re-entered on downloads alone. Which could well mean they might be doing very, very well in the very, very near future.

Our final new entry are Morning Runner, passing into the annals of history at #39. Foo Fighters are in the Sons & Daughters slot.

Albums sees another week for Bluntuss. Lee Ryan is the highest new entry at #6. Madness stick one boot into the past at #11, and the best of Kirsty MacColl is #17. Not the same as the 3-CD thing, of course, but available in more supermarkets, much like the greatest hits of Chris Rea (#24), but perhaps not the Public Enemy album at #39. Imbroogleer (#32) and Madge Peyroux (#28) ride back into the top 40, and John Legend As Seen On Parkinson is in the Duke Spirit slot.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 7 August 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

Oh wouldn´t it be nice if the Kaisers knocked off blunt from the top...

(Is it out *now*?)

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 8 August 2005 05:37 (twenty years ago)

I Predict A Riot is out in two weeks time, which means they've timed their promotional charge very oddly indeed. Expect to see the anti-Blunt vote split between it and Long Hot Summer (Helen Love, marvellously, are also releasing a single entitled Long Hot Summer the very same day).

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

NOBODY CARES ANYMORE

James "fucking" Blunt is still at number one, it's been a bad day, please don't take a picture of his ugly fucking mug Daniel Powter at #2, and just to really rub things in, Craig David enters at #3.

ILM consensus in "not having any impact on the real world" non-shocker as Goldfrapp debut at #4, one place ahead of that Akon cat.

Future heart-failure victims The Magic Numbers take a break putting Mr Ginster's children through university at #12, and Mattafix stake out an early claim for next year's Mercury Music Prize nominee list at #15. Axwell is some dance thing, I suppose, at #16.

Supergrass continue to "mature" at #22, Long-View's rerelease of "Further" only gets them to #24, and Nine Black Alps obviously aren't the next big thing at #30. Similarly, a £3 million dollar deal only getting her to #33, Lady Sovereign reveals herself to be the Seth Johnson of grime.

Frankie J is at #38, nobody could possibly care about this.

Album charts, twat bollocks is at #1, with his old mucker Powter debuting at #5. Lulu's efforts in losing all that cholesterol make her a perfect candidate for #29, and Longview (#32) and Ciara (#37) both see re-entries.

I predict "two" responses.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 14 August 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

Sons & Daughters slot: Martin Solveig
Duke Spirit slot: Public Enemy

And oddly enough, Sons and Daughters have another single out next week which has a half-decent chance of charting...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 14 August 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

Texas are at #6! Girl Power!

They are the Ikea of muzak.

nathalie starts to cry each time we meet (stevie nixed), Sunday, 14 August 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

how many weeks for james blunt now?

Googley Asearch (Toaster), Sunday, 14 August 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

18, community service...

mark grout (mark grout), Sunday, 14 August 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

18?

you're joking

Googley Asearch (Toaster), Sunday, 14 August 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

ah yeah.

mark grout (mark grout), Sunday, 14 August 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

Chart archive has it entering the chart in June.

mark grout (mark grout), Sunday, 14 August 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

Who the hell is listening to this since june?

Googley Asearch (Toaster), Sunday, 14 August 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

It's his eleventh week on the chart itself, but in terms of being number one it's his fifth. BBC News helpfully points out that the last artist to achieve five weeks atop single and album charts simultaneously was Celine Dion with 'Think Twice' and Colour of my Love. Thank you BBC News.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 14 August 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

In another parallel of sorts, Think Twice took even more weeks to reach #1 than Blunt iirc.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Sunday, 14 August 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

Think Twice took 14 weeks to get to #1.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 15 August 2005 06:06 (twenty years ago)

I remember this on TOTP, there was a great shot of a pelican, in the far distance behind Celine Dion, it sort of yawned and flapped its wings, right on top of a flagpole.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 15 August 2005 07:07 (twenty years ago)

Wasn't that Nicki French doing/murdering "Total Eclipse Of The Heart"?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 15 August 2005 07:10 (twenty years ago)

whyohwhyohwhy is Blunt still at the top of the charts?

jellybean (jellybean), Monday, 15 August 2005 07:43 (twenty years ago)

becausebecausebecause people are still buying more of his records than those of any other artist?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 15 August 2005 08:13 (twenty years ago)

Maybe Nikki saw it and said "I want a pelican too!"

(Positive, for once, it was "Think Twice")

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 15 August 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)

xpost

two women from Austria came into CD City yesterday (a shop which specialises in reggae, hip hop and R&B releases please note) and asked for - and received - the Blunt album. Hell knows how many units it's shifting in the chain stores.

zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 15 August 2005 08:31 (twenty years ago)

BLUNT = SLAIN! By... McFly. How marvellously anticlimactic. As is traditional with McFly's #1's, there follows a week with a minimum of four or five new entries that could go top while 'I'll Be OK' quietly sidles away.

Not that this week ain't busy - new entries at 4, 5 and 6 for Pete Doherty And The Baby Shambles, Iron Maiden and British Whale. The continuing singles chart frustration of Justin Hawkins by songs that you know he hates is a thing of much beauty.

Jamiroquai are #14, and God shuffled his feet. "Black Rebel Motorcycle Club drag folk-rock kicking and screaming into the 21st century in one of the most surprising comebacks this year" at, er, #21, and Super Furry Animals ARE NOT AS RUBBISH AS YOU BASTARDS KEEP MAKING THEM OUT TO BE, IT'S NOT ICE HOCKEY HAIR, NO, BUT WHAT IS, EH, EH, YOU BUNCH OF FUCKING WANKERS, "UH UH BLEEPY NOISE" FUCK YOU AND THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON at #28. Then again, I can't actually remember how it goes. But, y'know. It can't have been worse than 'Hello Sunshine'.

The remaining new entries are Lil' Love at #34 (me either, but it's on Positiva, so I could probably guess), and Snoop Dogg Gets That Fourth Single Feeling at #36. In the week that Sons & Daughters put out 'Taste The Last Girl', they might be annoyed to find their slot being filled by bloody Longview.

Blunt still rules the albums with a mushy fist, however. Madeleine Peyroux makes her much-threatened top 10 debut at #7 and decides to celebrate by cutting off all contact with her record label. I think I love her. Supergrass sidle up to #9, The Shadows' 'Platinum Collection' (does that actually mean anything?) is #30, and The Rakes are #32. In The Duke Spirit Slot, the Imbrugleriser.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 21 August 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

Just goes to show you how far the singles market has shrunk that dear old Iron Maiden can go straight in at number five with a live recording of a song which, in the days when the charts MEANT something (i.e. records were actually selling), could only manage number 12 in its original format (July 1983).

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 05:43 (twenty years ago)

Like, when John Otway had his first hit, "Really Free" at #37 back in 1978 or thereabouts, it sold way more than his second hit, "Bunsen Burner" which got to number 9 two years ago...

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 07:41 (twenty years ago)

The thing about the Maiden was that they, along with Gary Numan and the Jam, were early indicators of the straight in/straight out again chart patterns of today, i.e. they charted high 'cos of the hardcore fanbase, then slid down the pole rapidly. I think "Run To The Hills" was the only one of their hit singles which actually had a Proper Chart Run.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 07:47 (twenty years ago)

Peyroux number one in the albums next week after all the publicity concerning her 'disappearance'. Still never heard anything by her though.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 08:54 (twenty years ago)

Week after, "Piano man"...

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)

James Blunt ft Piano Man doing 'Imagine' surely a shoe-in for Christmas no. 1 now.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 10:04 (twenty years ago)

Well Peyroux covers "Dance Me To The End Of Love" on her album so that should earn old Lenny a few much needed bob.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)

Oh god, the mid-weeks for next week's chart, if genuine, are fucking horrible. That is to say, the week's best single is at #57, the second best isn't even in the top 75 (or isn't out) and the third best (that would be Girls Aloud) is #8. Please let these be fake.

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)

I thought Rihanna had a top 10 midweek?!

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)

what's the best, edward?

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:15 (twenty years ago)

Girls Aloud at #8 eh?

KIDS SAY NO TO POPISM Conor McNicholas writes

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)

Singles
1 Oasis
2 Simon Webbe
3 James Blunt
5 McFly
6 Black Eyed Peas
7 Rihanna
8 Girls Aloud
9 White Stripes
10 Kaiser Chiefs
11 Freemasons
12 Rolling Stones
16 Mint Royale
17 Crazy Frog
24 Amerie
29 Cribs
30 Coral
39 Robert Post
41 Kubb
57 Mark Owen
68 Tyler James
69 John Legend
182 Sia

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)

No comment, Alex, please.

Second best: Richard Hawley, but that may not be out, even though it's on the jukebox and such this week.

Haha at Tyler James.

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

Sia is hopelessly dull. 'Taken For Granted' is okay though.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:28 (twenty years ago)

Where the hell is Schnappi?!

Britain doesn't like black women enough for me.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:29 (twenty years ago)

The UK isn't ready for Schnappi :(

Richard Borely more like.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)

It's end of winter here, the Hawley single sounds perfect. Summer, is, of course, no time for such things, I'll concede.

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:40 (twenty years ago)

Tom gave Richard Hawley the same mark I gave Nine Black Alps a few weeks back which made everyone start accusing me of liking them!

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)

I know, I was horribly generous. I'm just bitter he beat my lovely Krokodil.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)

Schnappi currently available on import only; doesn't get a UK release until 3 October.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)

By 0.01! But I think Mark Owen is a more suitable target for our ire.

(xp)

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)

Bless you Marcello!

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)

By 0.01! But I think Mark Owen is a more suitable target for our ire.

HATER.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)

You gave Rihanna TWO, Dom, that is hateration to the MAX.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:57 (twenty years ago)

http://cover09.cduniverse.com/PhantomArt/550732.jpg

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

It's really not that similar to 'Mambo No. 5'. This is like the 'Ooh La La'/'Spirit In The Sky' thing.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:03 (twenty years ago)

THEY HAVE A SIMILAR BEAT, OH NO

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:03 (twenty years ago)

The comments on the Stylus jukebox about Schnappi have interested me, because I'm trying to formulate a well thought out response as to why it's perfectly okay to hate it.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)

I don't think it's that difficult Steve! It's a kid's record, after all, and I don't think there's any reason for an adult with no kids of their own not to dislike a record aimed at pre-schoolers. I think if you were to argue that it's a bad kid's record, or that it shouldn't be released or that adults shouldn't/can't like it at all then you'd be on shakier ground.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)

I think I was trying to argue that it WAS a bad kid's record! But yes, how etc. I just can't remember satisfactory equivalents from my own infanthood, that's the trouble.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)

At Poptimism I also had trouble accepting that the people dancing to it weren't doing so out of irony - not necess. bad, but I'm still struggling to see how it could be otherwise.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)

Irony like, "this is bad but we're pretending to like it"? I don't see why - snapping your arms together like a crocodile IS FUN! Doing it with your friends when drunk is also fun, I think a song that lets you do this as an adult needn't be enjoyed ironically at all.

(It's also fun to say "schni schna schnappi", the words feel and sound good in the mouth. So - infantile yes, ironic no.)

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)

equiv Kids' song from stevem era = Birdie Song maybe? Or was that too early?

zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

Would you say people who dance to the Birdie Song or do the Conga are being 'ironic', for instance? Maybe you would. But I don't think their enjoyment is in any way dishonest.

aha xpost!

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)

Ah is it that one that has "jump and wave" bits in?

Heared it enough in Spain. It's not too shabby anyway.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)

Right, HMV's site is being veeeery confusing re: Schnappi. The CD single is out 3rd October, but the DVD single is apparently out today (when the list for this week's Jukebox was being compiled, they were both listed as being out today). Hawley's listed as being out this week too.

(where 'today' = Monday, obv.)

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)

8 Girls Aloud

WHAT the FUCK!?!??!

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)

Ah yes, of course, the Birdie Song. Well I do remember disliking it as a kid. Why would I dislike it?! Whatever the reason is it's more or less the same reason I don't like Mr Blobby or Crazy Frog and Schnappi now.

If I can think of something interesting to go with this in the next week I can post it on Blog 7 maybe.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

Would you say people who dance to the Birdie Song or do the Conga are being 'ironic', for instance?

Sometimes they are, I know I have done in the past. The pleasure in doing it is entirely genuine however.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

So Mark is going in at 57? that's genuinely awful. it's such a great, great song.

jive session (elwisty), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

schnappi is fab, much better than crazy frog or goldfrapp. i would have got up and joined in UNIRONICALLY if it had been played later.

i like the feeling that it comes across as a C86 take on the birdie song template.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 05:58 (twenty years ago)

Why is it much better than Crazy Frog?

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)

It feels warmer, less "corporate," even if it is equally as corporate as Crazy Frog.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 08:54 (twenty years ago)

I think I agree. As it was playing I actually remarked to Ken (I think) how there was some sort of ironing in that the crocodile seemed quite docile compared to the aggressive, hyperactive frog. In this respect Schnappi may well be the better role model (some pop stars being role models, and some pop stars having the role model mantle thrust upon them, and some pop stars being animal puppets).

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 09:13 (twenty years ago)

It is better, also, because it is about TEETHING and how v. enjoyable biting things is, which is something every child or ex-child can get behind, I feel. The frog is about irritating people on the bus, which not everyone wants to do. Or, at least, axel frog is; 'popcorn' has not so much frog on it, and what little there is sounds more like beatboxing.

spontine (cis), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

Also Schnappi song is original no? Whereas the Frog can only butcher the classics. But much of this is immaterial to me as I cannot stand to hear either regardless of one's conceptual or integral superiority over the other.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

MCFLY'S REIGN OF TERROR IS FINALLY ENDED by... Oasis. Feel the anticlimax! Rihanna gets nudged into second, Lex To Thread IN...

Crap Hat holds onto #3 ahead of Simon From Blue and his synchronised swaying, with Blunt dropping to five. The Black Eyed Peas are #6 somehow, while 'Long Hot Summer' is the least successful Girls Aloud single ever at seven. McFly themselves slump to #8, ahead of the Kaisers at #9 and The White Stripes at #10. Anonymous Dance Hit Of The Summer is The Freemasons ft. Amanda Wilson at #11, one ahead of The Second Coming Of The Frog. The truly god-fucking-awful Rolling Stones single is your #15 (no, no, really, please, stop, NOW), the odds on there being a third Amerie single... actually, no, if John Legend can have one than anybody can. She's #19, one ahead of Mint Royale's 'Now That's What I Call Altogether Somewhat Unnecessary'. The only other new entry is the Cribs at #39, with the Audio Bullys in the Sons & Daughters slot.

In the albugasm, Blunt keeps Frapp off top. Cray Day Vay is #5, Black Rebel Motorcycle Club put the 'folk' in 'FOLK YEAH!' at #14, and the Furries set up shop with minimal fuss at #19. The no-longer-vanished Maddy P slips back to 10, with Razorlight in The Duke Spirit Slot.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 28 August 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

In GA's favour, I think this was one of those rather high-selling weeks, and in a slow week they might have been top three. I'll start worrying (further) if "Push The Button" misses the top three.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 28 August 2005 23:50 (twenty years ago)

LHS really seemed to lack momentum, somehow - 'The Show' was an EVENT, somehow, wasn't it? It was much more spectacular in any case... it's too early to say "difficult third album" at the moment, though. I hope.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 29 August 2005 00:01 (twenty years ago)

Well, the best bit about "The Show" is AT THE START, whereas the best bit of LHS, i.e. the bit where it's Betty Boo goes Big Beat, is at the end, so really, it makes some kind of sense that it hasn't hit with the same force.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 29 August 2005 01:07 (twenty years ago)

Well, the best bit about "The Show" is AT THE START, whereas the best bit of LHS, i.e. the bit where it's Betty Boo goes Big Beat in Funkytown, is at the end, so really, it makes some kind of sense that it hasn't hit with the same force.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 29 August 2005 01:07 (twenty years ago)

But I thought Girls Aloud were really really really popular in the UK!

Man, I just do not understand the lacklustre response that "Long Hot Summer"'s gotten.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Monday, 29 August 2005 03:27 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps it's the Super Furry Animals problem again - a new record too soon after the last one? Shame 'cos LHS is v. good indeed, a happy ending to Bananarama's Cruel Summer - or is it the Rachel Stevens "too clever for the pop kids" problem? Is the meat and potatoes of Oasis and Black Eyed Peas really all that their ears can cope with?

(the same with "1 Thing" - too artful, too rhythmically cunning - whereas Rihanna's rather dull Lumidee retread crashes cheerfully into second position?)

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 07:44 (twenty years ago)

Marcello, opinions on "Crazy Boys"?

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 07:46 (twenty years ago)

I've just had the album promo sent through so I'll reserve judgement until I've listened to it. Suspect that "CB" would be a bigger hit than "I Said Never Again" though.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 07:51 (twenty years ago)

'Long Hot Summer' reminds me of both the DJ Falcon remix of Cassius 'La Mouche' (see also Raven Maize 'Fascinated') AND the Fatboy Slim mix of Groove Armada's 'I See You Baby' (all too ubiquitous thanks to that car ad with the bums).


Meanwhile, Why do I loathe Crazy Frog but LOVE L.O.C.'s hilarious 'Ring Ding Ding'?

When is the latter released, assuming it hasn't been already?

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 08:34 (twenty years ago)

"Fascinated", shit yes, that was such an underrated single.

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 08:37 (twenty years ago)

"Ring Ding Ding" came out at the end of June.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)

Weird. It's on Channel U constantly.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 08:40 (twenty years ago)

Was that the "Wez Butters" one?

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 08:40 (twenty years ago)

I see a 'Ring Ding Ding' charted in June but it's credited to Pondlife. Is this the same thing??

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 08:41 (twenty years ago)

Different version.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

The L.O.C. track uses the 'Coolie Dance riddim' (or a variant of) ala Nina Sky's 'Move Your Body' and features three guys doing CF impression as the main hook and rather amusing child-like nursery rhyme falsetto bit - the toasting is actually pretty good though. Hope it's number 1 by the time of the next Poptimism...

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 08:54 (twenty years ago)

Also, what is a 'trackback' and why has this thread got 73?

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 08:56 (twenty years ago)

Ah. stupid card g3me..

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 08:57 (twenty years ago)

Jeepers H. Crikey - we've got a new number one, and it's... Gorillaz. And... I rather like it. Good grief. Aside from the fact that it's Albarn knocking Oasis off number one OH MAH GOSH IT IS BRITPOP ALL OVER AGAIN I TOLD YOU MENSWEAR WERE GOOD, this'd be the first number one to feature Shaun Ryder, no? Rihanna and Powter stay where they were, Jessica, Jessica Simp-son, you've got it all wrong at #4. 'waysis slump fivewards, ahead of Simon From Blue, BEP and the new David Gray Single at #8. The King Is Back! Shame about the kingdom, eh? Jacques Lu Cont finally crosses over by virtue of a dancing Citroen at #9, and Blunt is now slipping away quite nicely at ten.

And then there's Gwen at eleven, Stypod-approved KT Tunstall is #12 forever and ever and ever, and Paul McCartney winds up at #20 and nobody really minds very much. Further evidence of the power of inevitability finds Elbow at 22 and My Chemical Romance at 27, with 'Big Ang ft. Siobhan' at 29. They're on All Around The World. I think you might be able to guess the rest. R Kelly really should have put out Trapped In The Closet at #33, and Funeral For A Friend have that second-single-of-a-second-album feeling at #36. The Sons & Daughters Slot is thankfully occupied by 'Ass Like That', and hopefully that'll be the last of it.

In the albums, Blunt is finally felled, and falls to #3, because the top two slots now belong to McFly and Kanye West. Eric Clapton (about whom I have suddenly thought "He really ought to get a blog" and I cannot explain why) is #19, with Iron Maiden at #22 and Rihanna at #35. Ciara is in the Duke Spirit Slot.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 4 September 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

OH MAH GOSH IT IS BRITPOP ALL OVER AGAIN I TOLD YOU MENSWEAR WERE GOOD,

hahahaha!!

piscesboy, Sunday, 4 September 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

And yet it's ten years on since the last one. What's the Mirror/Sun say about it?

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 5 September 2005 08:00 (twenty years ago)

If the Kaisers win Mercury tomorrow, probably quite a lot.

Still, very nice to see Shaun Ryder finally getting a number one. Did he turn up on TOTP?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 5 September 2005 09:08 (twenty years ago)

Blimey, is it tomorrow the mercs? Ah who cares.

I assume it's the video on the TOTP.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 5 September 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

Oh, one other teensy-weensy note - the Bravery's re-release of 'Unconditional' failed to make the top 40, winding up at #49, meaning that they remain a one-hit wonder.

Tee-hee.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 5 September 2005 09:13 (twenty years ago)

Ah, a return to the halcyon days of the one-week number ones - Gorillaz instantaneously flip-reversed by the Pussycat Dolls. "Furrn", as they would doubtless put it. Mylo utilises 'the Gloria Estefan effect' to propel himself into the top 3, and Coldplay have still yet to have a number one single at #4. Powter fucks off as far as #5, then Rihanna, Oasis, Gray, From Blue and Simpson round out the ten.

GLC start to fade away at fourteen, Faithless' not-dreadful re-kicking of Insomnia is 17, and The Arcade Fire quite improbably crack the top twenty at 19, one ahead of Ian Brown. Both of them are on TOTP in a minute. Blimey. Supafly vs. Fishbowl vs. #22, A Foo Fighters Single at #25, ten places ahead of The Transplants, who automatically become the least-likely two-hit wonders ever (if Marcello hasn't disproved this by teatime tomorrow I shall be most grievously disheartened). The Sons & Daughters Slot sees the Bodyrockers in the final throes.

Blunt clambers back to the head of the long-players, just beating the Stones by a nose. JACK FUCKING JOHNSON IS NUMBER FUCKING TEN FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF. The Mercury Music Prize propels Antony & The Johnsons into the chart for the first time at #16, the OST of Scorsese's Dylan documentary is 21, and Michael Jackson's occupying the Duke Spirit slot.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 11 September 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

The album chart is absolutely ludicrous. In different parts of London over the weekend I witnessed Antony's album literally selling out and being purchased by people of all demographics, from students to middle-aged women, whereas Stones and Blunt were sitting in their dozens in the racks. It is far and away the most in-demand album at the moment so how can it only be number 16? And how can Seth Lakeman be top ten in Amazon for a week and not even register in the "official" Top 75 (his album has also been selling like wildfire)?

Really it's time for record sales from all sources to be included, not just those from Woolworth's and supermarkets which I understand currently constitute something like 80% of chart return shops.

Nice, however, to see Richard Hawley in there, even if it is only at #55 - a great album which deserves to be a number one.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 12 September 2005 05:35 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and most unlikely two-hit wonder is John Otway ok thx bye.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 12 September 2005 06:51 (twenty years ago)

xcept to say, no doubt Woolworths will presumably stock Mr Hegarty and next week will be top 10. Poss.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 12 September 2005 06:52 (twenty years ago)

the least-likely two-hit wonders ever

22 Cake The Distance Mar 1997
29 Cake I Will Survive May 1997

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 12 September 2005 07:01 (twenty years ago)

Alright, how about

20 Focus Hocus Pocus Jan 1973
4 Focus Sylvia Jan 1973


i.e. two hits at the same time, and then none again, ever.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 12 September 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

Apparently this week Blunt outsold the Stones by 11 copies.

Prior to Mercury, Antony's album had sold about 500 copies in total. Since Mercury, sales went up by over 900%.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 05:28 (twenty years ago)

.. and all those 500 wrote an article about him!

I think he sounds like Aaron Neville but that's me for you.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 08:01 (twenty years ago)

If only Kevin Rowland's 200-selling My Beauty had been up for the Mercury back in the '99/'00 day...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe Antony has only sold 500 copiesin the 8 months it's been released, not with all the press, tv and internet coverage (hype). Especially since he sold out all the gigs on his summer tour.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 08:28 (twenty years ago)

Funny, that! I reckon CD sales accounting has gone right off. Wonder why?

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, but everyone who went to these gigs was a journalist who'd got the album sent to them for free.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 08:32 (twenty years ago)

So, basically, there were more Cds sent to the Mercury Music prize comittee than actually sold at that point, right?

(q.v. timing = presumably as I'm including out the cds sold after the noms were announced)

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 08:34 (twenty years ago)

No, according to the Official UK Chart Company, up to and including last Tuesday Antony had sold only 500 or so copies of this, his second album.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 08:36 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that's kind of what I mean.

Noms were announced, what, 2 months ago? Presumably they had 2 months before that to check the entries and pick ten (or however many),

or when you say 'no' are you agreeing with me? I'm lost now.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 08:43 (twenty years ago)

sorry mark i thought you meant that the sales increase might have happened after the nominations were announced.

the sales figures for m.i.a. are even lower - probably corresponding with its current chart position in amazon.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 08:54 (twenty years ago)

Butbutbutbut... "Hope There's Someone" only just missed the Top 40. Are we saying that the single sold more copies than the album?

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 09:19 (twenty years ago)

Now how many singles do you need to sell to make the Top 40 these days?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)

Well I bought the Stereolab ones, yesterday. So, if it's in the charts at number 62, that was me.

Also, back to ant, my prospect scenario was:

Prev to noms, ant sells 200 or so
After noms, sells 300 maybe, so a sales increase.
After win, sales increase number two, bigger and better.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 09:28 (twenty years ago)

It's a far cry from the days when singles like "She Is Beyond Good And Evil" could comfortably shift 60,000 copies without even breaking the Top 75, that's for sure.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 09:30 (twenty years ago)

So remind me again why they don't publish sales/gross figures with singles and albums like they do with films when they compile charts? I mean, aside from the fact that now they would probably just be too embarassing, why did they never do this?

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 09:56 (twenty years ago)

They used to give sales figures in Music Week but that practice was stopped some years ago for the abovementioned "embarrassment" reason.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

I never saw them listed in the charts when I subscribed to Music Week in the mid 90s, though they would always mention the large first-week sales of big releases naturally.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)

According to this weeks Music Week, I am a bird now had sold 41,000 copies up to the week before last, including 1,624 that week, taking it to number 135 in the charts. Last week it sold almost 16,000 copies to make number 16 in the charts and take it's cumulative sales to 57,264.

Fishman, Wednesday, 14 September 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm. Someone's telling porkies then. But it's still a rum do when you can get to number 16 on only 16,000 sales.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 10:50 (twenty years ago)

I'm suprised it's sold as many as 41,000 copies. I would have guessed 10-15,000 i.e steady seller but not enough to trouble the charts.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

ITS THE FIRST TOP 40 OF THE TOTP SATURDAY VS CD UK VS SIMON AMSTELL RAISING HIS EYEBROW SLOBBERKNOCKER ERA.

And what better way to kick it off with Pussycat Dolls and their airbrushed stomachs retaining the number one position. That new Busta Rhymes single with Dead ODB is really good though, so you can probably forgive this.

Seanie Parrrl is burnin' at #2, and Bon Jovi entertain menopausal women at #6. Rub your eyes in disbelief, as Mobb Deep are at #7 (admittedly only as 50 Cent's shoeshine boys), and HIM bring their own inimitable brand of cartoon Goth to #10. Status Quo release one of the singles of the year at #11.

Jamesy P is doing it all for the nookie at #14, Jem probably isn't the new Dido at #24, and Kano probably is the new Taz at #25. Pretty Ricky has a stupid name at #26, 50 Cent makes a second appearance with his old mucker Tony Yayo at #28, and The Subways (insert sandwich gag here) at #29. The Dead 60s have a dreadful name at #30, and Ciara ft Ludacris are in the Duke Spirit slot.

Album wise, David Gray enters straight in at #1 and we can probably look forward to that being number one until Franz release in a month's time, with Pussycat Dolls being here "for the duration" as their album goes to #8. Paul McCartney Releases His Best Album In Years at #10, but no airbrushed stomach = no extra sales.

Elbow lead the free world, assuming the free world consists solely of derivative nindie shite at '#12, Sigur Ros get ready to be talked about by "knowledgeable" "music" "fan" "students" during Freshers' Week at #16, and don't you forget about Simple Minds at #37. Antony and the Johnsons are still top 20, and note the 43rd week on the charts for Gwen Stephanie.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 18 September 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

Seeing as no one else has bothered to update: Pussycat Dollars' act of piracy gets a second week at number one. "Golddigger," so hip even my hairdresser has it as a ringtone, goes in at 2, Franz Ferdinand at 4, Kate E Mellower and her bicycles at 5 and Kelly "Not As Good As The Last One" Clarkson at 9. Number 11 appears to be the new default pub rock chart position as the Stereophonics rudely displace Status Quo, who despite Corrie tumble to 27. Damien Hirst Marley comes in at what will probably be a career high of 13. Hard-Fi are Living For The Weekend at 15. At 37 we have the pained "Suffocating Under Words Of Sorrow" by the painful Bullet For My Valentine. Ladytron, Cullum and Mew all just miss at 42, 44 and 46 respectively. Juliette and the Licks get an ignominious entry position of 56, which is still 19 places better than Sheryl Crow managed.

In the album chart, David Gray is top for a second week, beating off envelope-pushing shock-of-the-new challenges from fresh new talents Bon Jovi at 2 and Streisand & Gibb at 3. Ian Brown's rather wonderful compilation The Greatest comes in at 5. Daniel O'Donnell's rather sub-wonderful Teenage Dreams enters at 10. Queen & Paul Rodgers' Return Of The Champions makes a somewhat less than spectacular return at 12. Goldie Lookin Chain exhaust their one gag at 16. Quo party at 18. The HMV sale means the usual suspects clog up the mid-riff (Stone Roses 19, Tracy Chapman 21) but fairly steep descents for Macca (10 to 34) and Sigur Ros (16 to 50). Devendra Banhart enters at 69 but of the splendid new Broadcast album there is no sign.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 26 September 2005 05:23 (twenty years ago)

This would be Ladytron's Biggest Hit Ever!, and their fourth top 45 SMASH in a row, now they just need to make it into the top 41. They must be sick as pigs. The video for this one is extremely wonderful.

Possibly Broadcast's fourth top 130 albumchart SMASH too, assuming it made it that high. Their first two albums came within hair's breadth of charting in the top 75, the last one didn't, so much. It's a disappointing state of affairs.

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Monday, 26 September 2005 06:47 (twenty years ago)

Think it's three weeks at the top for 'furrrn' - I didn't update this thread last week by virtue of looking at the chart and thinking "...no."

There should be a minor street party the day Ladytron actually have One Hit Single.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 26 September 2005 07:18 (twenty years ago)

yes, it is indeed PCDs' third week at the top, and three weeks too long. have you heard their version of "tainted love/where did our love go?" not quite as good as the soft cell one.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 26 September 2005 08:32 (twenty years ago)

This is just the FHM girls all over again...

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 26 September 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

The good news this week is that the FHM girls de nos jours have, as expected, been dethroned by the Sugababes. Liberty X return to the charts at 5 with tATu in at 8 and The Good Charlotte Church of Me at 10.

The Gary Barlow of S Club debuts at an unlucky 13 with the perhaps presciently-titled "What Hurts The Most" (those high notes by the sound of it). Paul Weller lopes in at 15 with "Come On Let's Go," which isn't the Ritchie Valens oldie, then it's: New Order (21), Bedouin Soundclash (24), Ms Dynamite (25 - tee-hee, as it were), Editors (27), Nickelback (29, with the song "Photograph" - not really fit to cohabit in the same cosmos as the similarly-named Ringo Starr and Def Leppard songs), B Jaxx (32), the rather excellent XPress-2/Kurt Wagner collaboration at 33 (yet Nickelback got on TOTP and Lambchop didn't), Andy Bell (35) and Bobby Valentino (38).

New entries of note outside the 40: Missy (47), Royksopp (55), Art Brut (56), LCD (59), Go! Team (64 - shame!), Sebastian Tellier (!) (66), King Biscuit Time (!!) (67), and, be very afraid, "High" by James Blunt on downloads alone (74).

On the album front, Kate E Mellower is dragged predictably straight into the number one slot (that video really is creepy, as is the continued presence of Mike Batt hunched over the piano every time she breathes on TV - she's a Woman, not a Womble!) and bloody Cullum at 4 and bloody Hayley Westernmovies at 10. Sean Paul in at 11 (though the single holds at number three, so is actually a Proper Hit Single), Corrs at 14, HIM at 18. Neil Young (thought that wasn't out until this week?) in at 22 (deserves to be much higher, but won't be). Dead 60s born dead at 23. Sheryl Crow in at 25. The Essential Bob Dylan at 30 is the only palpable evidence of audience reaction to last week's media blitz. Ryan Adams & the Cardinals enter at 59. Antony down from 26 to 47, so I'm afraid it's yet another case of Mercury Winner Not Really Crossing Over.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 3 October 2005 07:35 (twenty years ago)

Well, I see the NME have decided that Antony is a 'good thing', as per 1066 and all that.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 3 October 2005 07:58 (twenty years ago)

Heard Sugababes and tATu for first time during the R1 chart show yesterday (as it should be; remember when...? etc.)

Sugababes = EXCELLENT. I love those ascending melody lines, but what is it that it recalls? (something 80s, Tina Turner maybe? either that or the "Twin Peaks" theme tune inverted)

tATu = very ordinary, just a rehash of stuff on the first album

Jeff W (zebedee), Monday, 3 October 2005 09:58 (twenty years ago)

Sugababes = EXCELLENT. I love those ascending melody lines, but what is it that it recalls? (something 80s, Tina Turner maybe?

I indeed suggested on the Sugababes thread that it sounds like Tina's "Simply The Best."

brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Monday, 3 October 2005 10:37 (twenty years ago)

I also listened to Pick Of The Pops on Radio 2 yesterday. They were doing the Top 20 from 2 October 1965 - a salutary reminder of just how sheerly schizophrenic the charts were at that time. Anyone still in doubt as to exactly how radical Like A Rolling Stone was should have listened to yesterday's rundown, where it turned up between "A Walk In The Black Forest" and Ken Dodd's "Tears." It really was the equivalent of someone screaming the word "fuck" in the middle of St Paul's Cathedral on a Sunday morning.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 3 October 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

In this week's singles chart, the Sugababes stay at the top for a second week. The Robbie has to be content with silver medal position. Depeche Mode enjoy the third number four hit of their career (and they've never climbed any higher). Bloc Party's single lasts for about two bloody years (except it doesn't) but enters at seven. Mariah Carey's weekly hit debuts at 9. Ricky Martin doesn't care at 11. I would imagine Rachel Stevens would care about only debuting one place higher than her erstwhile bandmate last week (see, The Kids don't want clever metapop! They want The Truf of Kate E Mellower and Kate E Turnstile! They want music which speaks to them through the crushed peel lingering at the bottom of their blenders!). James "Thatcher Is My Heroin" Blount makes it to 16 with his "Avenues And Alleyways" equivalent. Do you remember the Prodigy? They're back at number 20 in the Top 20! Still two places higher than Starsailor! Schnappi debuts rather schadly at a mere number 32, only five slots above We Are Scientists. What the fuck is "I Wish I Was A Punk Rocker" by Sandi Thom at #55? Is it as good as "Mammy I Want To Be A Punk Rocker," the B-side of Andy Cameron's international 1978 smash "Ally's Tartan Army"?

Meanwhile, in the albums list, Franz Ferdinand, who I am yet to be convinced are anything other than Midway Still with pass sociology degrees, debut comfortably at number one. Nice to see Paul Anka at nine with his I'm The Only Important One On That Chart album. Yet another Lennon compilation at 11. Yet another New Order compilation at 14. Nickelback have got a new album at 13. Yet another Leftfield compilation at 32 - hang on, there's only the one. The badly-reviewed sophomore effort by Ms Dynamite stiffs at 43, a whole 22 slots beneath Bullet For My Valentine. The Gary Barlow of S Club has an album at 48 (so we can expect Come And Get It to reach at least #47). Yet another Snoop Dogg compilation at 50 (don't bother to research/tell me if there's only the one). Oh, and Cream live at the Albert Hall a few months ago rocketing into the listings at 61.

As last week's Time Out singles reviewer said: it just goes to show that bloggers can be an over-excitable lot...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 October 2005 11:15 (twenty years ago)

There is a TWO CD best of Midway Still out!

Tom (Groke), Monday, 10 October 2005 11:20 (twenty years ago)

I really like the Bullet for My Valentine album, it feels like the best "song" album of the whole skatemo scene so far.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 10 October 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

Despite three consecutive Top 45 hit singles, I note with sadness the non-appearance of the new Ladytron album in this week's chart.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 October 2005 11:29 (twenty years ago)

What the fuck is "I Wish I Was A Punk Rocker" by Sandi Thom at #55?

Fake nostalgia for Johnny Walker drivetime listeners who used to own a Stranglers album.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 10 October 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

Is it as good as "Mammy I Want To Be A Punk Rocker," the B-side of Andy Cameron's international 1978 smash "Ally's Tartan Army"?

Are you sure about this? A friend at the time got this, but I think his had a 'dub' version on t'b.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 10 October 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)

I remember my schoolmates and I block-buying copies of said "Ally's Tartan Army" for 10p a throw from Bruce's Record Shop in Glasgow's busy Union Street directly after Scotland's inglorious World Cup exit and smashing them ceremoniously outside in the street, and "Mammy I Want To Be A Punk Rocker" was definitely the B-side.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 October 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)

Nice to see Paul Anka at nine with his I'm The Only Important One On That Chart album.

Old Paul sets a record by having the longest gap between debuting on the singles chart and debuting on the albums chart, 48 years and 78 days. Hard to see this ever being beaten.

48 78 Paul Anka 1957:2005
37 112 Rolf Harris 1960:1997
33 229 Robin Gibb 1969:2003
29 13 Vera Lynn 1952:1981
28 275 Patsy Cline 1962:1991
28 238 Marc Bolan 1974:2002
28 114 Bobby Vinton 1962:1990
28 105 Sam Cooke 1958:1986
28 8 Jimmy Shand 1955:1983
27 143 Edith Piaf 1960:1987
26 319 Judith Durham 1967:1994
26 270 The Miracles 1966:1992
26 58 Doris Day 1952:1979
25 327 The Righteous Brothers 1965:1990
23 350 Steve Perry 1960:1984
23 145 Vic Damone 1957:1981
22 202 The Planets 1979:2002
21 336 Carl Perkins 1956:1978
21 217 The Platters 1956:1978
21 30 James Brown 1965:1986
20 311 Percy Sledge 1966:1987
20 295 Dion and the Belmonts 1959:1980
20 253 Buffy Sainte-Marie 1971:1992
20 220 Gary "U S" Bonds 1961:1981

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 10 October 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

The b-side of "Ally's Tartan Army" was actually called "I Want To Be A Punk Rocker (But My Mammy Willnae Let Me)".

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 10 October 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

Ailsa beat me to it.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 10 October 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

It sems you are right. Once again.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 07:38 (twenty years ago)

The thing is, though...if The Kids don't go for clever metapop, then how come the Sugababes have been at number one for two weeks? I think with the Annie/Rachel quarter there's a more fundamental problem here, but I can't quite put my finger on it.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:02 (twenty years ago)

It might be that the Sugababes single strikes more of an empathic chord? I can think of plenty of "when will he notice me?" singles but not quite as many in which the protagonist is so obviously stronger than the dim noticer-to-be.

w/Rachel I wonder if what a 32-year-old man hears as "joyous Adam Ant pastiche" a 12-year-old girl may hear as "embarassing knees-up yr Mum might like", not that I love it any less for that.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:08 (twenty years ago)

What's so meta about either of those singles?

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:14 (twenty years ago)

Also there is Petridish's "personality of a boiled egg" theory, which I can understand.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:16 (twenty years ago)

Basically, PR companies need to stop this idea of "trickle-down buzz", ie, if you aim at the self-proclaimed cognoscenti first then the rest of the populace will follow. It's worked once or twice, it's not a winning stratergy though. Mania are basically a textbook example of how not to market a new act.

Also, it's a lot easier to get a bunch of bloggers excited about something than it is to get a bunch of 13-year-old Mizz readers.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:21 (twenty years ago)

I think it's just that they have very little idea of how to appeal to and reach an 'adult pop market', by which I don't mean "bunch of bloggers".

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:24 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of which, why one or two of those fantastic Mania songs hasn't been revived on the new Sugababes is a mystery - "Close" would fit them like a glove.

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)

I definitely think that the 13-year-old Mizz readers get the bigger buzz from the feeling that they've discovered something by themselves, even if of course they haven't and it's all clever marketing - also that pop acts are singing about them, to them and for them. Trevor Horn could afford to be adventurous with Dollar because Dollar were already an established act with a proven demographic following (i.e. the 13-year-old Jackie readers of 1981). And the Art of Noise were much bigger in America than in Britain because B-boys there just saw them as this ace electro act and didn't necessarily know about the Morley/NME/New Pop history - the sleevenotes they interpreted as weird but accessible artiness.

With ABC the adult crossover happened because the Lexicon Of Love songs were so good and so brilliantly performed and produced that they would have been big anyway, even without the perceived subtext/metatext. That's why I think Beauty Stab stiffed - it was as if they were turning around to their audience, pulling off the mask and saying, OK, that was all bullshit. Audiences don't like to be told that they've been cheated, unless you've got the seductively mischievous grin of an Orson Welles to excuse you.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:30 (twenty years ago)

Agree with edward, in that 'Push The Button' and 'I Said Never Again' are surely not meta-pop as such.

I think Annie's problem was really just that she was European and over 25. The British market is evidently unsympathetic to such people unless they're peddling far less sophisticated pop (Las Ketchup, Schnappi etc.)

Rachel's problem may just be that as a solo artist stepping out of a larger highly successful group in which her personality could not really stand out, it's difficult to change public perception of you esp. if you really are not that interesting as a character. Great production can't seem to over-rule this.


Also, it's a lot easier to get a bunch of bloggers excited about something than it is to get a bunch of 13-year-old Mizz readers.

Are you seriously claiming that young teenage girls are less excitable than a bunch of slack jawed cynical 20 something geezers??

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:40 (twenty years ago)

Well, the Sugababes and Rachel Stevens have both been around for ages, so it's familiarity and that general trickle effect that works here.

If Annie gets to make album number three, watch it go...

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:43 (twenty years ago)

...nowhere.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:44 (twenty years ago)

The other flaw in yr argument Marcello is that it gets no more meta than "Some Girls" and "La EX" and those were here biggest hits, so it's not meta and clever-80s production that is turning people off necessarily.

I guess the other question is - how much money is being thrown at pop at the moment compared to other stuff, and how much emphasis does it get on CD:UK etc as opposed to 5 years ago? There's been a genuine shift in fashion I think.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)

I think it's just that it makes better economic sense (you spend less and get more rewards) to have a, say, Hard-Fi or a Zutons on your books than a Rachel Stevens or an Annie.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:49 (twenty years ago)

but how is a group better than a solo artist, economically?

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:53 (twenty years ago)

The British market is evidently unsympathetic to such people unless they're peddling far less sophisticated pop (Las Ketchup, Schnappi etc.)

If that's the case, how come Schnappi only got to #32 here? What did Crazy Frog have that the crocodile didn't (apart from an eminently marketable and painfully over-marketed ringtone, or have I just answered my own question)?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:55 (twenty years ago)

Great production can't seem to over-rule this.
Except it isn't great. Sorry, but it just isn't. [/bugbear]

Jeff W (zebedee), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:55 (twenty years ago)

The Motown PWL model - where you write the songs as well as run the label - makes a lot of economic sense as a pop set-up cos you get publishing as well as sales. So maybe the thing that's made 00s pop so entertaining - the competitive market for songs/songwriters/producers - also lowers its viability?

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:56 (twenty years ago)

i think rachel has an image problem, a bad one, because she can't convert magazine covers into sales. the video for 'i said never again' was kind of tawdry; but on the single sleeve she looks kind of electroclash. i don't think people know how to read her.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:57 (twenty years ago)

The other flaw in yr argument Marcello is that it gets no more meta than "Some Girls" and "La EX" and those were here biggest hits, so it's not meta and clever-80s production that is turning people off necessarily.

Yes but with "La EX" there was the S Club fan club crossover still in force (cf. first two Gary Barlow solo singles getting to number one on little more than fan momentum) and with "Some Girls" there was the charity/Sports Aid tie-in. It's significant that her only other top three hit "More More More" is absent from the new album, i.e. it's only by Playing The Game that she can get major hits now.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)

i don't udnerstand why 'more more more' was playing the game (i agree it was) but 'so good' wasn't. mystified.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:00 (twenty years ago)

Well, it was a familiar cover version wunnit?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:03 (twenty years ago)

If that's the case, how come Schnappi only got to #32 here?

Crazy Frog was already ubiquitous in public consciousness (even pub landlords) knew what it was. The same is not true of the die krokodil. Schnappi would have to have been either adopted by Jamster and plugged furiously, or a C Beebies character.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:03 (twenty years ago)

Hasty cover version of "Schnappi" by Wallace and Gromit to get the Xmas number one out of sympathy.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:04 (twenty years ago)

Jeff, I think it is good production. Obv. 'good' in this case is relative, but I think it's too vibrant to be dismissed as cynical, trying-too-hard etc. Possibly it is OTT but then remember Basement Jaxx are my favourite producers ever...

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:05 (twenty years ago)

Hasty cover version of "Schnappi" by Wallace and Gromit to get the Xmas number one out of sympathy.

'We Didn't Start The Fire' more like

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:05 (twenty years ago)

how familiar was 'more more more' to the kids though?

N_RQ, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:05 (twenty years ago)

Their parents would have dug it. Adult crossover!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:06 (twenty years ago)

I really don't think "the kids" are so much the point any more.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)

'So Good' WAS a top 10 hit, it's also worth remembering - too much is made of the difference between #10 and #3 (see also 'Long Hot Summer')

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)

i did write something else but wanted to use the phrase 'the kids'.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)

Remember we are living in days when acts can get dropped from labels when their single only gets to number five. I think that in contemporary terms 6-10 in the singles chart = 21-40 in old terms.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:10 (twenty years ago)

Incidentally I spent EXACTLY £50 on CDs at the weekend, the first time I've bought any in ages...

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:10 (twenty years ago)

I spent exactly £9.97 on CDs yesterday.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

that'll be the sugababes out of asda/sainsbury's then?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:14 (twenty years ago)

Woolies! Sainsbury's in Tooting doesn't do CDs. Woolies also didn't stock tATu so my spending wasn't higher.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:18 (twenty years ago)

No top ten placing for tATu next week, then... :-(

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:30 (twenty years ago)

I think w/Rachel timing might also be a factor - ISNA(BHWA) is the fourth single off this album now, and they've all come out before the album itself at fairly regular intervals. Without an album to push, the singles just sort of seem like something to keep ticking over with, regardless of their quality or otherwise - Rachel's become a fact of life, a sort of permanent rotation on kids telly and the 'pop circuit' and such, always there and as such never particularly special or important. You could argue the same for 'Long Hot Summer' perhaps - there didn't feel like much, or enough of a gap between it and 'Wake Me Up'. The Sugababes, on the other hand, had been gone for a good year at least til 'Push The Button', and so they actually got to have Proper Comeback because they had Been Away = 'Push The Button' gets momentum and attention and such. There's also the whole classiness conferred via 'detachment' from the 'manufactured pop' thing (i.e. they wear vaguely refined eveningwear so Radio 1 thinks they r cool etc.), which Girls Aloud and Rachel do not have, so GA & RS become more easily dismissed as tack/cheese/something...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

From what I gather the Rachel album was originally scheduled for a spring release but got put back after Negotiate With Love bombed. So in a sense it's been throwing tracks at the public to see how many of them stick.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

That last bit is v.important - it didn't do them any particular favours when One Touch came out but in the long term the whole Sugababes 4 real marketing angle has proved very sustaining. When I talk to ppl in my office and mention them I still get people saying "Oh they write their own songs", my arse they do to any greater degree than GA or whoever, but the anti-mud sticks.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:40 (twenty years ago)

The way Brian Higgins works with the Sugababes is that he gets them each to write about twelve potential verses for each song. Then he goes through them and picks out/edits/reshapes the three best ones.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:42 (twenty years ago)

for GA, it's the burroughsian cut-up method in effect.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:43 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, who cares about the verses, it's the chorus that gets the bigger slice as it's basically one verse repeated through the song.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:46 (twenty years ago)

Chorus/verse differentiation in a post-"Murder On The Dancefloor" world.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:51 (twenty years ago)

in a post-"What'd I Say?" world.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:01 (twenty years ago)

Please list other artists to have had FOUR or more singles released BEFORE the album they're on. It's quite ridiculous and I think Stevens people are just making the situation worse for their product.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:36 (twenty years ago)

I mean I totally forgot 'Some Girls' was on this new album (which I finally listened to yesterday and think at least half of which is good if not great), so a lot of other people probably will have forgotten too.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:38 (twenty years ago)

Even though it was also included as a "bonus track" on later pressings of Funky Dory! Talk about milking it dry.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:43 (twenty years ago)

they shd have released the elpee after 'so good', but perhaps they held it till now to catch the well-known 'student loan' market.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

Who in Freshers' Week would have spent their grant money on the Franz Ferdinand album.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)

hahaha 'grants', good one.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)

Can't see many freshers going for Rachel's album. That is the problem, she has no clear demographic - the music's a bit too edgy for the mums AND their kids, only not wholesale enough (ala Goldfrapp) to attract the Mercury Music crowd at the other end, and a wider pool of critics and anoraks. It's just pop without mass appeal.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)

"Can't see many freshers going for Rachel's album."

that was my slightly convoluted joke!

N_RQ, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:56 (twenty years ago)

Also she has the personality of a boiled egg. I caught a glimpse of her on a chat show (Paul O'Grady?) last week and she was smiling but her eyes weren't (ditto TOTP on Sunday). How does she expect others to be enthusiastic about her music when she clearly isn't?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)

i think rachel's deliberate refusal to inject anything of herself into her songs is the main turn-off - you can get away with it if you're kylie and have paid your dues, not if you're still perceived as a jumped-up sclubber.

the 'paid your dues' thing is important I feel, sugababes have been through the mill and been gossiped about and had issues, maybe all of this makes them more 'real' in the sense that consumers 'know' them in a heat magazine esque style whereas rachel hasn't really had a private life of note at all.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

hmmm, she's in cosmo talking about 'her new mang' this month, but yeah -- even though she's had a famous boyfriend and seems to make all her hits songs about getting revenge/being pissed off with him etc.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)

Heh, I read i think rachel's deliberate refusal to inject anything of herself as refusing to inject anything into herself, which would explain the less than sparkly eyes on a sat morn up early to be on Kids Telly.

(Yes, I know, it's all recorded on Weds aftrnoon, I have done this myself you kno)

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 11:18 (twenty years ago)

I think we're in a kind of odd marketing limbo at the moment where downloads are mainstream but not super-mainstream so you can't base an artist campaign around anything other than tracks position vis-a-vis the album (or at least execs are still too business-as-usual to do it). It seems to me that "Rachel Stevens will delight you every two months with something new to dance about and sing along to" is more of a goer than "Hey why not buy a whole album of Rachel Stevens?"

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)

The last song on Stevens album is very...weird!

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:00 (twenty years ago)

Sugababes, Robbie, and PCD see that the top 3 remains static, and THE BIGGEST BAND IN THE WORLD EXCEPT PERHAPS COLDPLAY AND HAWTHORNE HEIGHTS U2 chart at four. Friday Hill, the Boxcar Racer to Blazin' Squad's Blink 182 make it to 5, and Feeder let the world know they're still going for some reason at #11. Lee Ryan is turning his car around at 13, and Lisa Scott Lee is finally over at #14. Bob Sinclair is apparently the new dance hotness at #15, and Roll Deep probably are never going to trouble the top 20 ever again at #24. SKIPPAH. Bow Wow ft Omarion sell somewhat less than they probably do "over the pond" at #27, Simply Red meanwhile fail to matter anymore at #30. I bet JK and Joel had some funny things to say about that. HOLY SHIT PEOPLE STILL CARE ABOUT INME, as they've got to #33.

SPECIAL BONUS OUTSIDE THE TOP 40 LOOK

Route 1 (#47), El Presidente (#48), Clor (#50), Delirious? (#56), Louis XIV (#57), Honeymoon Machine (#64), Protocol (#65), Steve Mac (#73), and Alfie (#76). What do all these people have in common? They're all more popular than MULTIMILLION SELLING POP SENSATION MIA, who charts at #77.

Albumwise, Sugababes run it across the board at #1, Paul Weller is OLD at #4, and Bryn Tefrel just looks it at #10. Liberty X's accountants can't be too happy at #27, and Ricky Martin's triumphant comeback is greated with a "huh?" at #40. Charting outside the top 40: Bratz Rock Angels (#42), Roadrunner United (#45, someone please tell me who the hell they are), Alicia Keys (#52), and taTu (#78, whoops).

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 October 2005 06:56 (twenty years ago)

what did the tatu single get to?

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 17 October 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)

eight.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 17 October 2005 08:37 (twenty years ago)

"Bob Sinclair is apparently the new dance hotness at #15"

eh?

N_RQ, Monday, 17 October 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

he of 'gym tonic'?

N_RQ, Monday, 17 October 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

is that bob sinclar? he's been around for years and years, no? they heyday of french house?

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 17 October 2005 08:47 (twenty years ago)

that's my guess, yeah.

N_RQ, Monday, 17 October 2005 08:48 (twenty years ago)

Dom where do you get the chart positions for singles and albums outside the top 75 from?

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 17 October 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

coolclarity.com

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 October 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)

ok i am going to subscribe to Charts Plus now i think...

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 17 October 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)

oh wait it's stupidly expensive (shockah)

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 17 October 2005 09:50 (twenty years ago)

(And my Sinclair blurb was teh sarcasm. Although I'll admit when I first tried to remember him, I was actually thinking of Cassius)

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 October 2005 09:59 (twenty years ago)

It's Sinclar. There's no I.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:40 (twenty years ago)

'I Feel For You' is still the hottness.

BARMS, Monday, 17 October 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

So yes, the miracle of St Zane came to pass and now things will never ever ever be the same - Arctic Monkeys become the second act from Sheffield (I think, unless Ciara was born there then moved, like Slash did with Stoke) to top the charts this year, edging 'Push The Button' into second. McFly, who really would have been a worse choice, are #3. Not much else of interest in a fairly static top 10, except that Daniel Powter has now been inside the ten for 13 weeks.

Thirteen.

Fucking.

Weeks.

Jesus wept etc.

Dannii Minogue isn't really what she used to be at 11, The Love Bites are exactly as successful as the Faders at #13, Not Another Pete Doherty Collaboration finds its way to #22, and oh look, the Kooks are #28. Go them, probably. Lethal Bizzle samples the Detroit Spinners and gets to #34 for his troubles, and at #35, Clea enter into the realm of 'fanbase acts'. S&D's slot goes to Bratz Rock Angelz.

In the albums, The Prodigy go straight in at the top with their 'Forget About 'Baby's Got A Temper'' compilation. Simply Red do it for themselves at #3, and Depeche Mode are #6. There's something a bit inevitable about that, isn't there? Michael Ball vs Michael Bolton - Ball wins (#11 vs #18), and somewhere in the middle someone still cares about Starsailor (#13). Aled Jones' 'New Horizons' is this week's least accurately titled new entry at #21, Stevie Wonder's last album is #24 for some reason, and - is that a new Rick Astley album I spy at #26? Eh? How peculiar. Two spots ahead of St Rachel Near The Stevens, anyway. Still, top 40 is top 40, no? McFly are in the Duke Spirit slot.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 24 October 2005 05:48 (twenty years ago)

Right, it is a new Rick Astley album - however, here's the tracklisting:

1. Vincent
2. And I Love You So
3. Portrait Of My Love
4. Where Do I Begin
5. These Foolish Things
6. Cry Me A River
7. Nature Boy
8. Close To You
9. You Belong To Me
10. Make It Easy On Yourself
11. Somewhere
12. I Can't Help Falling In Love (With You)
13. What The World Needs Now

The odd thing is, I'd imagine he's got the voice for it, but somehow I can't help but think this will be dreadful.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 24 October 2005 05:57 (twenty years ago)

It needs to be underlined very strongly that Lethal Bizzle's interpolation of The Detroit Spinners' "Shame" isn't actually half as good as the one done by Abs Out Of Five on his distinctly not-terrible album from 2003.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 24 October 2005 06:34 (twenty years ago)

Rachel at #28 was to be expected, and I will discuss the causes on the appropriate thread, but I was more disappointed by the new Boards of Canada only making #41. Also completely flummoxed by the total absence of the Vashti Bunyan and Animal Collective albums, which were easily the fastest-selling albums of last week, at least in London - both were sold out nearly everywhere by Friday.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 06:27 (twenty years ago)

ITS THE FIRST CHART SINCE THE ATTIC MONEYS CHANGED POP FOREVER.

So, obviously, in this era of independant indie Myspace fuckwittery, the first band to get to number one are... Westlife. With the second highest first week singles sales of the year so far. Well done all involved. Kate Bush brings the old haggard pointlessness at #4, and Hilary Duff has her biggest hit to date at #7 with "Wake Up", a song, like the rest of Duff's, that would be totally improved by a guest verse from the awesome Gordo. Backstreet Boys become the uni ball for the masses at #8, and Maximo Park "apply" "some" "pressure" at #17. On Saturday, I fucked a Maximo Park fan. Well done all involved.

Will Smith once heard a DMX single at #19, and its the yearly "Pump Up The Jam" remix at #22. It's the Cafe Del Mar you can dance to! Magic Numbers (more like the Fatgic Numbers, am I right?) are probably on the decline now at #24, and the Test Icicles are possibly the worst indie band since The Others at #25. Audio Bullys release their traditional post-hit flop at #27, and the Rifles are apparently at #36.

Albumwise, in a total shock to all, Robbie Williams goes straight in at number one and probably won't be moving for at least six weeks. Destiny's Child's gramatically incorrect "1's" is at #6', and a similar greatest hits album from the Destiny's Child of the 70s, Supertramp, gets to #9. Tiny lesbian Alex Parks comes back at #24, and Jack "Cunt" Johnson finally enters the top 40 at #26. Longest stayer on the top 40 is the Kaiser Chiefs, who've now managed 34 weeks, and are still top 20.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 30 October 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)

the magic numbers dropped from #1 to #24?

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 31 October 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)

sorry i got my white people with guitars mixed up, carry on.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 31 October 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)

This commentary seems really pointless now (presuambly to reflect the nature of the charts themselves). No useful description/view of songs beyond a single sum-up sentence, though these are usually witty and accurate granted.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

if having a point were the criterion of ilm threads... i don't need to finish that.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)

and stevem is still bemoaning stuff at post #457

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 31 October 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)

Just for stevem, a look at what's charting outside the top 40:

SINGLES
44. Morning Runner- Be All You Want Me To be
52. Supergrass- Low C
59. Tom Vek- Nothing But Green Lights
62. Gliterrati- Back In Power
68. The Corrs- Heart Like A Wheel
79. Mattafix- Passer By

ALBUMS
57. El Presidente- El Presidente
60. Burt Bacharach- All This Time

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 31 October 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
Blimey, this thread's been off for a while! Maybe start nr 2 next year?

Anyway, Nizlopi! Congrats, and a nice moment for TOTP.

Course, they won't be there next week, making way for Shayne and "Whoopee, I Won" song.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 19 December 2005 09:59 (twenty years ago)

aw, i liked that this thread had stopped, as a sign of protest.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 19 December 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

Mark, even you can't seriously like Nizlopi?

Tom (Groke), Monday, 19 December 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)

Seriously like = "dash out and buy it"
Quite like = "don't mind it too much"

The kids like it a lot, well the video anyway. Amber "Bands are quite boring sometimes when they sing it live". Mind you that was also about Robbie, who did his song live and showed it up as being especially unmemorable also.

The niz enjoyed their TOTP Performance, so good for them. I've heared it three times up to now, so it hasn't worn off just yet. (The "Quite Like" level).

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 19 December 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

we'll remember them fondly as we did Gordon Haskell.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Monday, 19 December 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

Rolling top 40 discussion thread, nr2.

mark grout (mark grout), Saturday, 31 December 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)


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