Il Douché and His Discontents: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 4

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He could probably say anything he wants as long as it doesn't sound wimpy.

Evan, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 20:15 (eight years ago) link

He kinda already has? I mean I don't think there's anything he can say that will cause him to lose every remaining state, but there are states he arguably lost in recently like Ohio that earlier in the race, he was doing well in, and he may lose some states in coming weeks that he previously was on target to win.

I think we've also overestimated his actual popularity. We've barely had any primaries since Rubio dropped out, and it already seems to have made some significant shifts in polls (including Wisconsin).

problem is, it could be too little, too late, but the idea of a brokered convention seemed remote not that long ago and now is becoming more and more likely.

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 20:20 (eight years ago) link

He could probably say anything he wants as long as it doesn't sound wimpy.

Every time you think this fucking moron couldn't sink any lower he just keeps plummeting to new depths.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 20:32 (eight years ago) link

I just have to wonder, where's the tipping point

I'm convinced there isn't one. He's already insulted Mexicans, Muslims, McCain, Megyn (maybe he just hates the letter M), and it makes no difference. Callers on CSPAN I've heard who support him do so because they think he's a successful businessman, not a career politician, just a plain-spoken guy who loves America. THat "plain-spoken" thing comes up a bunch, they actually love that he has no filter.

Retro novelty punk (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 20:38 (eight years ago) link

What he's expressing here is of course the logical consequence of asserting personhood of foetuses. Cruz etc are too canny to say it but I'm sure they agree.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 20:41 (eight years ago) link

Is there an anti-abortion/pro-life position that does not involve punishing women who have abortions? Or is the shocking part that he doesn't seem to have thought through what the punishment would be?

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 20:45 (eight years ago) link

>i'm not sure if it's intentional or not, but his pattern of consistently upping the ante helps him in some ways because it makes people forget about all the other stupid stuff he believes in. it's difficult to try to remember his most recent 10 terrible things he's done, and that's just the tip of the iceberg for him.

this was the exact same pattern as the previous, notorious, crack-smoking mayor of my hometown.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 20:49 (eight years ago) link

There are quite a few countries that make providing abortions illegal but don't have functional criminal sanctions against the woman but punishment is fairly common too. Xp

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 20:51 (eight years ago) link

He's already insulted Mexicans, Muslims, McCain, Megyn (maybe he just hates the letter M), and it makes no difference.

Just wait'll he goes after Morbius...

Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 21:16 (eight years ago) link

@Bencjacobs
Donald Trump fully retreats on punishing women who get abortions

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ce0wtFkW8AASIAw.jpg

mookieproof, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 21:20 (eight years ago) link

also!

@nbcwashington
JUST IN: Bernie Sanders not on D.C. ballot after Dem. party error, sources say nbc4dc.com/UIdwA69

mookieproof, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 21:21 (eight years ago) link

jesus

goole, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 21:21 (eight years ago) link

lotta write-ins

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 21:23 (eight years ago) link

Wouldn't normally post something like this, but I think it's a much better version of that flow chart from a few days ago. (Can't tell if the person who created is a friend of a friend on FB, or if it was picked up somewhere else--anyway, she does say she's made it public.)

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t427/sayhey1/flow_zpscpggzjd4.jpg

Sorry if it was posted earlier. Need a new thread--this one's too large to check back.

clemenza, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 21:24 (eight years ago) link

Believe me. No one posted that.

pplains, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 21:31 (eight years ago) link

lol

ejemplo (crüt), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 21:36 (eight years ago) link

"My position hasn't changed"

timellison, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 21:42 (eight years ago) link

I think the one I posted is a response to that one.

clemenza, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 21:46 (eight years ago) link

oh good, our conversion into Facebook is complete

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 21:47 (eight years ago) link

lolworthy cat vids coming soon

scott beowulf (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 21:54 (eight years ago) link

"Candidate Clarifies Statements on Punishment for Abortions"

...when did "clarify" become a synonym for "revises"?

"let me clarify my statement that I like hitler. i do not like hitler."

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 21:56 (eight years ago) link

Trump doing any kind of a clarification must be a first, though. The backlash must have been immediate and fierce.

clemenza, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 21:58 (eight years ago) link

he's "clarified" plenty of times, just not quite this fast or thoroughly

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 21:59 (eight years ago) link

lolworthy cat vids coming soon

I rarely post anything from Facebook here, but I did think that flowchart was good. I know ILX isn't like that.

You demanded it: a thread with pictures of cats in it
This one's for ENBB
Infinite Cats... (cats cats cats cats cats cats...)

clemenza, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 22:03 (eight years ago) link

don't forget The different kinds of tea that cats like

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 22:04 (eight years ago) link

http://www.xojane.com/issues/stephanie-cegielski-donald-trump-campaign-defector

If this is real, I think his behaviour makes a lot more sense.

it's hard for me to swallow that whole story but it would be funny if he was literally trying to get out by self-sabotaging and then just had to go "jesus you idiots, what else do I have to do to lose this thing?"

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 22:12 (eight years ago) link

Even more than the specifics of what Trump is clarifying/contradicting/making up, or the degree of backlash, this might signal an atypical instance of him second-guessing himself--a slight loss of nerve, like an athlete who hesitates a split-second too long.

clemenza, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 22:21 (eight years ago) link

People writing / saying things like "adorable belief in the magic political revolution fairy" drive me up the fucking wall. I'd like to put them each into a closet-sized paper bag and leave them there to die.

Adorable belief in paper bags that kill ppl

Ecomigrant gnomics (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 22:28 (eight years ago) link

It's not the paper bags that kill people, it's the lack of imagination.

~magic~

Ecomigrant gnomics (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 22:34 (eight years ago) link

fake penthouse letters magorium

Ecomigrant gnomics (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 22:34 (eight years ago) link

nb I'm just riffing I strongly support voting for whoever you are so angry about not being taken seriously as a future president

Ecomigrant gnomics (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 22:36 (eight years ago) link

don't forget The different kinds of tea that cats like

― wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, March 30, 2016 3:04 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

<3 <3 <3 this thread

lute bro (brimstead), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 23:18 (eight years ago) link

Cruz's alleged mistress is talking to Erin Burnett on CNN

Treeship, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 23:23 (eight years ago) link

Classic teeth sucking, eye rolling, reality denying conservative pundit.

Treeship, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 23:24 (eight years ago) link

guilty lols @ right wing sites calling this the "cuban mistress crisis"

ejemplo (crüt), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 23:25 (eight years ago) link

Her face looks kind of like a skull but only because she has done too much contouring with her makeup.

Treeship, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 23:26 (eight years ago) link

also, she is a Horcrux

ejemplo (crüt), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 23:34 (eight years ago) link

http://www.xojane.com/issues/stephanie-cegielski-donald-trump-campaign-defector

If this is real, I think his behaviour makes a lot more sense.

― A long little doggy like a dachshund? I already g (fake penthouse letters mcgee), Wednesday, March 30, 2016 11:11 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lost all credibility by calling seth rogen an extraordinary improvisor

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 23:45 (eight years ago) link

Don't know if anyone's posted this yet.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/interrogation/2016/03/barney_frank_is_not_impressed_by_bernie_sanders.html

I find myself agreeing with lots of this.

o. nate, Thursday, 31 March 2016 01:45 (eight years ago) link

i like barney, but he seems like a prick

k3vin k., Thursday, 31 March 2016 02:00 (eight years ago) link

Bernie Sanders has been in Congress for 25 years with little to show for it in terms of his accomplishments and that’s because of the role he stakes out.

that is true, but not really an argument against his past role or hoped-for role

mookieproof, Thursday, 31 March 2016 02:05 (eight years ago) link

if you accept that major, well-known results are the most important factor in deciding who should be president, then hillary is your gal. many of hers are awful

k3vin k., Thursday, 31 March 2016 02:09 (eight years ago) link

i like barney, but he seems like a prick

― k3vin k., Wednesday, March 30, 2016

I recommend his memoir, one of the best of its kind: well-written (no ghost writer as far as I can tell) narrative about how purity's the enemy if you're in the minority. I wrote this at the time:

That excrescence, to which Frank devotes an entire chapter, might never have made it out of committee had opponents done the boring work of calling and writing congressmen. This chapter contains the book’s second leitmotif: Liberals protest. Conservatives vote. Liberals chant. Conservatives organize. The National Rifle Association, the most successful voting bloc in the country’s history, does it right. The NRA, writes Frank, urges “urge all of their adherents to get on the voting rolls. They are diligent to the point of obsession in making sure that elected officials hear from everyone in their constituencies who opposes any limits on guns…” A denizen of a safe district who spent half his political life in the minority, Frank has no patience for purity. Activists who reject partial victories get the full force of his contempt

The excrescence is DADT.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 March 2016 02:12 (eight years ago) link

i hate the fucker.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 31 March 2016 02:18 (eight years ago) link

More Stone!

http://www.gq.com/story/roger-stone-donald-trump-interview

He called me a henchman, and I don't really object to that, but henchmen get paid, and I have been paid nothing by Trump.

... (Eazy), Thursday, 31 March 2016 02:22 (eight years ago) link

so he's Trump's Barney Frank

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 31 March 2016 02:24 (eight years ago) link


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