Winamp Sucks

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Skinning is a bad feature. All the skins are ugly.
The interface widgets are crowded.
It doesn't support m4a.
The Library is a joke.

Many of my Windows using friends use it -- WHY!?!?!

Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:42 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

They don't know about QCD!

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Windows Media Player - WHY DOES IT SUCK SO BAD?

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:47 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

What's QCD, Dang?!?!

Also - if you want ugly skins, try giving Windows Media Player a spin.

hstencil mind meld!

"Proud" Winamp User (popshots75`), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:49 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

becuase the EQ display is better than WMP, and it has pre-amp controls

kingfish (Kingfish), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

ah, memories.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:51 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Winamp is the best mp3 player ever. QCD is great for playing CDs.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:51 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I'm actually quite happy with Winamp at the moment, it seems to do exactly what I need it to.

I'm not really a big Windows user, but I'm on a windows system at the moment, and I found choosing an MP3 player to be a bit of a tricky job. I immediately chose iTunes, and was really impressed with it when I installed it, but then found that it doesn't really handle the media library feature as I'd like it to. I rip all my CDs to MP3 when I get them home, tag them up and put them in the right directory. Sometimes I move a directory or rename it, or download a song and stick it in an "unsorted" folder, and ideally I'd like the MP3 app to just find it when I start the program up.

I might be grossly mistaken, because it seems wrong, but it appears iTunes wants me to add my directories manually, and doesn't ever scan them for updates. This means that if I rename a track or move an album it gets lost and iTunes doesn't know where to find it. Similarly, if I delete a track, iTunes still thinks I want it in my media library. Winamp scans at a time you can specify (mine's set to every ten minutes) for changes in your "watch folders", and at startup.

I've not really got a way with words tonight, but hopefully you understand what I'm looking for in an MP3 player, so if you've got any suggestions for something better than Winamp I'd love to know, because Winamp isn't perfect.

In regards to the GUI, have you had a look at the "non-step" skin for Winamp? It's the only one I can cope with, and it's very nice indeed. Perhaps it's one of those things that suits my computer perfectly but would just get in the way for everyone else. And as for m4a support, you can get plugins to fix that. It also doesn't support FLAC from a default installation, but there are plenty of plugins to fix that.

Patrick Allan (adr), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

iTunes is bloatware. It's far better on the Mac. There's no reason why I should have to wait when I click on an .mp3 file for some huge program to start up.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Spencer OTM. I use Foobar with Windows and iTunes on my Mac.

adam (adam), Thursday, 27 January 2005 18:58 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Skinning is a bad feature. All the skins are ugly.

Sknning is a bad feature anyway. It's one of those feature-creep features, the last one tacked on before the program becomes totally unusable.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

jon, you're wrong.

i've tried foobar a gillion times but i can't seem to get the hang of it.

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

patrick, the feature you're describing is called folder monitoring. itunes' lack of it is one of a million reasons it beeeee-lows.

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Winamp does play .m4a, you just need a plugin. It will play a lot more formats than itunes will.

svend (svend), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

iTunes is bloatware. It's far better on the Mac. There's no reason why I should have to wait when I click on an .mp3 file for some huge program to start up

Technically the bloat is quicktime not iTunes, basically iTunes for windows is iTunes straight recompiled for the Mac. Quicktime implements huge chunks of the apple API to make this and quickTime work with minimal recoding on their part, it's basically a built in emulator.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

uh, iTunes has plugins too.

Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:10 (thirteen years ago) Permalink


Technically the bloat is quicktime not iTunes, basically iTunes for windows is iTunes straight recompiled for the Mac. Quicktime implements huge chunks of the apple API to make this and quickTime work with minimal recoding on their part, it's basically a built in emulator.

It is not an emulator.

Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Not technically, but it's as big as one, so same diff.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:14 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

NO, YOU ARE DEAD WRONG. EMULATORS ARE NOT "BIG".

Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:15 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

OK, not an emulator.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Foobar has a good masstagger, and I have gotten used to replaygain. Also, format strings.

W i l l (common_person), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

WINAMP RULEZ!!! It's one of the few programs I'm actually a fan of, as in, I'd get in a geeky argument about it.

fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:19 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

wow, i don't know what version you're getting those screen shots from. mine's hella small and simple and easy-to-use and takes up no memory.

fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

ok, nevermind, i never use the library tho. just open up an album and play it.

fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

NO, YOU ARE DEAD WRONG. EMULATORS ARE NOT "BIG".

What's the word, then? Clunky? Inefficient?

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

http://1.im.cz/n/photo/01/76/02eqlen-original.jpg

look at the upside down tabs here


wtf

Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:23 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

which is why the required library setup in iTunes seems unnecessary and annoys me.

x-post

fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:23 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

you don't need to keep stuff in the library in itunes.

Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:23 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

PS - HAVE HIGHER STANDARDS WINDOWS USERS

Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Although it's easier if you do. I'm on your side, jon, believe it or not. I use iTunes on my PC, even though it's clunky. It's just better. And I like not even having the *option* of putting George Strait's face on my player. iTunes cares about me, and wants me to be cool.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

er... xpost

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

all my friends who use winamp are forever saving playlist files, dragging directories in and squinting at tiny little windows of tiny lists written in tiny grey text on a black background.... UGH

Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:28 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I take back what I said about all skins being bad. Somebody please try to make that look better k thanx.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:29 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I used this skin for years -- it's about as good as it gets.

http://www.winamp.com/customize/component/2001/11/10/S/large_image/Oxygen_2.jpg

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:32 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

My standards are very high indeed, and that's why I use winamp. It's certainly a different paradigm and maybe you should just accept that some people do things differently. I keep my mp3 files organized into windows folders and then click on the file itself when I want to hear it. Winamp starts playing it back immediately. That's all I care about!!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:33 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

so does iTunes, dood.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:33 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Patrick, why isn't it that nice by default? Most people have awful setups.

Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:33 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

xpost except that it's slow. You're both right, really.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:34 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I keep my mp3 files organized into windows folders and then click on the file itself when I want to hear it. Winamp starts playing it back immediately.


Did you just upgrade from MS-DOS 5?

Reviewer: Sir Potomus (Washington, DC) - See all my reviews (ex machina), Thursday, 27 January 2005 19:34 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

not like it needs any saying, but i am a bit of a computer dumbass and should probably stay out of these threads. *goes back to sad Word life*

fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 03:39 (eleven years ago) Permalink

*plays album I want to hear in three seconds*

fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 03:40 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i just dl'd the latest winamp and kind of like it. there are a few tasteful yet high-contrast skins, the display is configurable enough to get it to how i like it, and it's just easy to use. i dont use the medial library, as it's hard to find what i want (when most of my music is DL'd, it's hard to get things tagged quite right, so fuck it, i just use explorer) but i also dont use itunes. fuck itunes, winamp, though flawed is better than that crap.

also, i've never ever had any problems running any version of winamp on any pc, even really super shitty ones.

AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 04:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

just don't use iTUNES to deport me to hard labour camp! by the time it loads up i'd be of retirement age innit.

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 04:30 (eleven years ago) Permalink

(also notice how the lists in the screenshots are sorted by the CPU column)

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 04:31 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Pretty annoyed with Winamp today actually :|

The iPod support is simple & sturdy enough, but has a majorly annoying "feature" that if you leave the album tag* blank, when transferred across to your iPod, it guesses(?) and steals the track title info.

This is getting in the way of trying to separate albums & non-album material. Grrr.

The non-album stuff is in a playlist, it _shouldn't_ be showing up elsewhere.

iTunes really isn't flexible enough for me, but I do understand why more people use it.

Going to muddle through & maybe uninstall the iPod support & reinstall the old plugin (worked fine, but was annoying to configure) :/


*note: none of these files are in the Media Library, so it shouldn't be that that's causing problems unless there's some intermingling going on.

Delivering over 43,973,865,717,760 bytes per day | What are you sending? (fandan, Friday, 31 March 2006 21:40 (eleven years ago) Permalink

or it could have been the db getting corrupted when I forget to "eject iPod" before removing it (via "safely remove" not just pulling the cord off).

Either way... fixed, but Winamp's in-built iPod (and other devices) support is nowhere near good enough (fully featured) or usable (see crap like above) as the iPod (only) plug-in.

:(

Delivering over 43,973,865,717,760 bytes per day | What are you sending? (fandan, Friday, 31 March 2006 23:33 (eleven years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

Since I upgraded my version of Winamp recently, I've noticed that I am getting a glitch pretty frequently when I load web pages! This has never happened before that I can recall. Should I be using something else at this point? Has Windows Media Player gotten any better? I may try it regardless, as I am sick of what Winamp is doing.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 19 March 2010 10:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

yep, same here. i thought it was soemthing to do with my outboard soundcard and not necessarily the new winamp as when i use my internal soundcard there are no problems, but now you mention it.

dog latin, Friday, 19 March 2010 11:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

windows media player is still horrific, i'm sure
i am down w/musikCube.
foobar2000 is probably the best out there but you have to set up a lot of stuff (like the layout) yourself, which can be a drag

hobbes, Friday, 19 March 2010 19:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

I've been using VLC for about a year now, after a solid 10-13 years of winamp use. The kicker was that whenever I recorded something in Ableton and played it in Winamp it would make it really loud and apply nasty compression to it. VLC doesn't.

Adam Bruneau, Friday, 19 March 2010 21:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

I am a Mac ricer now.

Spencer Chow, Friday, 19 March 2010 22:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

Winamp has been sturdy for me. I usually pirate a copy of pro for burning cds - I find one on soulseek. Then I download i-pod support from some 3rd party. But I can't say I've had webpage or audio problems. Winamp's organizing system/playlist making is tops and i-pod and cd-burning is easy to use.

CaptainLorax, Friday, 19 March 2010 22:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

i used to use winamp, but foobar2000 is definitely the way to go. i don't use music player library systems, though, so ymmv. i prefer to just browse my files in folders on my hard drive.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 19 March 2010 22:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah same here. the cool thing about foobar2000 (and to an extent musikCube) is you can play around w/it to best suit your listening/organizational habits.

hobbes, Friday, 19 March 2010 22:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

Went Mac too, but before that I was really into MediaMonkey.

Nhex, Saturday, 20 March 2010 00:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

does anyone use songbird? i installed it (on my mac) but found it not that big an improvement over itunes; it plays flacs though if you are into that.

akm, Saturday, 20 March 2010 05:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hey fellow Winamp guys, is the problem you're having that you get a popup error message that's obviously caused by Winamp but attributed to your browser?

DISASTÜR ZÜN RHINE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 20 March 2010 07:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm thinking my problem had less to do with Winamp than with Firefox. I went back to Windows Media player (after being confused about how to make a connection between MusikCube and my mp3s and not feeling like having to figure it out) but I am still getting frequent pauses/glitches in the sound when I load certain pages while listening to music. But I just switched to Opera and it doesn't seem to be happening now. Also, Opera seems really great in general. I like how quickly things are loading. I definitely see a difference. (I will probably re-load Winamp and see if the problem returns when I use it with Opera.)

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 28 March 2010 11:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

I use Opera, but I get the popup error message I mentioned above. I should just learn my lesson and never update winamp, 4 out of 5 times it just causes problems.

drinkin a carton of peace juice (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 28 March 2010 13:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

technical question

I right click on a folder to play it in winamp. It contains subfolders as well as files. Let's say it has these:

Folder A containing files a1, a2
Folder B containing files b1, b2
Folder C containing files c1, c2
file d1
file d2

(with the x1's being alphabetically ordered before the x2's)

Winamp plays or enqueues them in this order:
c1, c2, b1, b2, d1, d2, a1, a2

putting the folders in reverse order, and inserting the un-foldered files before the first folder (which is played last).

I would like to play them in this order: a1, a2, b1, b2, c1, c2, d1, d2.

How do I change this?

a nan, a bal, an anal ― (abanana), Sunday, 6 February 2011 17:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Click the 'Misc' button at the bottom of the playlist editor, go to sort and select 'Sort by path and filename'.

I think this is what you're after.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 6 February 2011 21:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

What OS and Winamp version are you on? They get enqueued in alphabetical order for me (though with files and folders interspersed, so a file beginning with T appears between folder S and folder U) on Windows 7 and v5.572 of Winamp.

I remember having a similar problem on XP if I selected all the contents of a folder and dragged them into Winamp, but that was Windows' fault not Winamp's. Not sure if this is the same problem though, seems like it shouldn't be the same problem if you're right-clicking the containing folder instead of selecting and dragging the contents.

cellular nekomata (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 6 February 2011 21:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm on XP, and I can confirm that Windows will do screw-y things with filename order. I use Winamp 5.56 and enqueuing a folder by right-clicking on it always results in odd results. But when I drag the folder to the Playlist Editor window, it always stacks the files alphabetically.

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Sunday, 6 February 2011 21:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

^ Yes, but you have to drag the whole folder and not the contents, because if you select the contents then whichever file you select last is "highlighted" in Explorer, which will put it first in the list it sends to the target app (then the other files may appear in reverse order too)

iirc

</nerdy>

cellular nekomata (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 6 February 2011 21:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

ironically, at some point during me posting to this thread, Songbird went a bit nuts and placed a Teenage Panzerkorps mp3 in the middle of a Low album in its playlist. which was slightly jarring

cellular nekomata (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 6 February 2011 21:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

xp yeah, drag folder, not contents. I'm massively anal about organising my music into folders anyway.

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Sunday, 6 February 2011 21:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

it really whips the llama's ass

My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic (Princess TamTam), Sunday, 6 February 2011 22:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

The main advantage of winamp is the ease of finding things in your library quickly, the library sorting and small text interface. The program is almost entirely designed for people who don't like to label/sort their music all the time. But I have never been in a situation where I've wanted to load an entire folder with subfolders and miscellaneous files through My Computer.

However, since my last harddrive erase (and loss of tons of music) I have just stuck with WMP even though I'm not a big fan.

homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Sunday, 6 February 2011 22:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

Oh, I forgot to say (or think) that I never used the library in Winamp, just the playlist. So if this is a library issue, no idea.

The library sorting and finding is what I like about Songbird, so maybe it is a bit weird that I never even tried Winamp's library in many years of using Winamp.

cellular nekomata (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 6 February 2011 22:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

xp and winamp 5.601, using windows explorer as a library. james mitchell's suggestion doesn't work.

a nan, a bal, an anal ― (abanana), Sunday, 6 February 2011 22:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

winamp classic is still the best - quickest mama unlike the bloated itunes

Latham Green, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 19:11 (six years ago) Permalink

Winamp Modern is also pretty zippy as long as you don't use the Media Library. Bento/Big Bento can both shove it though.

got a whole lotta gloves (snoball), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:04 (six years ago) Permalink

all I know is when I wanna hear "tears before bedtime" the app opens in seconds, I hit "j" and type in the track and voila! there it is. itunes takes so long to open

Latham Green, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:07 (six years ago) Permalink

I still use winamp more than itunes.

Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 04:29 (six years ago) Permalink

six years pass...

https://jordaneldredge.com/projects/winamp2-js/

mookieproof, Friday, 9 February 2018 16:01 (one week ago) Permalink

I've been using this a little bit, but mostly because I have all my media dumped into Plex: https://medium.com/plexlabs/introducing-plexamp-9493a658847a

mh, Friday, 9 February 2018 16:02 (one week ago) Permalink

i actually still use winamp at home

mookieproof, Friday, 9 February 2018 16:17 (one week ago) Permalink

same lol

Simon H., Friday, 9 February 2018 16:24 (one week ago) Permalink

I don't have any need for it any more but Winamp >>>> iTunes.

Matt DC, Friday, 9 February 2018 16:27 (one week ago) Permalink

man, I used Winamp up until very recently and it never went wrong. Don't know why I use AIMP now and it's always failing to detect what sound card I'm using (I swap all the time)

Badgers (dog latin), Friday, 9 February 2018 17:00 (one week ago) Permalink

Still using WinAmp 5.61, see no reason to change. It opens quickly, can handle massive playlists, doesn't crash (or at least it's never crashed for me), and does what I need with minimal fuss.

2018 has to be better (snoball), Friday, 9 February 2018 19:21 (one week ago) Permalink

i also still use winamp

although it still forgets to be always on top all the time

adam the (abanana), Friday, 9 February 2018 22:44 (one week ago) Permalink

I want to go back to winamp because aimp doesn't have the mini mode, so I always have to go and find it, and it doesn't understand that if I drag some mp3s in, they should stay in the same order. But where can I get winamp now? The only website I can find doesn't have any download links.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 9 February 2018 23:45 (one week ago) Permalink

winamp 5.6.4.318 for windows installer (inside a zip)

lol @ me

mookieproof, Saturday, 10 February 2018 00:17 (one week ago) Permalink

the minute I post this there will probably be some kind of world-shattering exploit revealed, but until then I feel pretty comfortable saying winamp is a perfect piece of software

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Saturday, 10 February 2018 01:22 (one week ago) Permalink

winamp was great which means it still is but i haven't looked back from foobar2000.

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 10 February 2018 01:24 (one week ago) Permalink

tried several times to get foobar the way i wanted it and failed; no doubt i'll give it another shot when winamp stops working

k otm

mookieproof, Saturday, 10 February 2018 01:53 (one week ago) Permalink

http://www.winamp.com/ -> "follow this link to get updated news" -> http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?t=374929 -> second post = download links for the latest version?

StanM, Saturday, 10 February 2018 08:47 (one week ago) Permalink


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