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The "I Hate Apple" thread got me thinking. I don't hate Apple. I've had a long and good relationship with Apple. I've also had a long and disappointing relationship with PCs, but my recent PC experience is quickly coming to match what current Apple users report -- a fast computer that does everything you want it to and sometimes breaks unexpectedly. That's not the point, though.

My first computer was an Apple IIe, in 1983. I was 9 years old. The first thing I did on it was write question-and-answer programs in BASIC to try to replicate the dialogue between boy and computer in Wargames. I imagine I am not alone in this.

In 1985, I got the first Macintosh for Christmas. I went right to school and told everyone, and I don't remember anyone being especially impressed. A few months later when my school got three Macintoshes, they were the "nice" computers and hardly any of the kids were allowed to use them except for me, because I already had one at home and I was a computer badass. I won a graphics contest in third grade using LOGO. Remember? With the turtle?

In 1986-87 I got another Macintosh because my old one crapped out. The idea of software being incompatible in two years had not yet occurred to anyone, and if it hadn't crapped out, odds are I would have used it for another couple of years.

There was a lull in consumption in high school. I used the school computers almost exclusively -- the novelty of having a home computer lasted a good while, but finally wore off when I came to view the computer as a work tool. No need to upgrade a machine for that. I didn't bug my parents again until I went to college in 1993...

When I got my first color Macintosh! This was my most used, most abused, and by far hardiest computer. I'm having trouble counting exactly how long I used it. First I loved it, then I was married to it, and finally I came to take it for granted. It was on this computer that I first discovered email and the internet. This was the first keyboard I ejaculated on. Ah, good times.

Around 1996 I got a PC, and began using my Mac as a second computer. It didn't seem that cool anymore, anyway. Windows 95 was a piece of shit, IIRC, but I didn't know that then.

The rest is a bit of a blur. I've owned nothing but PCs since then, and finally gave my old Mac away a couple years ago... three or four, I guess. I guess I missed most of the Cult of Mac, missed most of the Award-Winning Mac Design, entirely missed OS 8 and 9, and generally missed out on what were probably the best years to be using a Mac. This is because I was broke. What are ya gonna do?

My current machine is a cheap, cobbled together mess of PC parts, and I would be hard-pressed to say that I have any affection for it. I still want a Mac, but I worry that it's only because I want to be able to feel about a computer the way I used to feel -- totally stoked. I don't even think that's possible anymore. I know too much about computers, for one thing. Also, I fear that I am the target audience for Mac now, and they are trying to make me feel warm and fuzzy in a kind of manipulative way, and I resent that. (Funny, I never resented it before)...

Anyway. Where do you come from? What's your history?

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:00 (twenty-one years ago)

My parents couldn't afford a computer when I was a kid, so we didn't get one till fairly late. They also didn't understand how they worked, which was yet another reason why us kids didn't get one. So in about 1991 we got a second hand Amiga, then someone donated their apple IIgs to us (my brother and i stupidly took a sledge hammer to it when we were bored about three years ago). Then we got some new but dodgy IBM peice of crap in 2000, now i have some souped up, built-out-of-bits number which was put together for hardcore gaming, which is a joke as neither me or my husband play the kind of games that need a fast processor however this is what happens when you let your geeky brother-in-law make you a computer.

kate/thank you friendly cloud (papa november), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I want to give a big long history of this, but it's part of my 'serialized retelling ... ' thread, which is currently on hiatus while I finish this damn script. Suffice it to say that while my friends (read: jon & his ilk) were gifted computerwise, I've always been completely retarded. That being said, I've learned enough through rote & reading that at one point I had a workable enough knowledge of x86 assembly language to carry on a meaningful conversation. And at one point I felt myself brilliant, because I knew how to 'code' in html/javascript and some incredibly elementary perl. This being 'way back when' in the annals of 1998. I never really discussed what I knew with my friends because I'd always come out looking retarded by comparison. At the same time I think I have a way-above-average understanding of certain really techy applications and a fantastically modeled (but likely inaccurate) detailed conception of computer architecture. But I have no real gift, just a quiet interest. I refuse to talk about it most of the time, because it bores me to be wrong and I frequently misspeak.

I ran a 286 box with Windows 2.11, a pair of Apple IIes, an IBM 386 w. Win 3.0, a Dell w. Win 95, a coupla laptops running early Linux Distros, a Pent II box w. Win2k / mandrake partition, a handmade box running 4 OSes, constantly in flux (this one), another craptop porn-box Toshiba Tecra running Windows Something, and now my cheapo ibook.

Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Also I had one of these, which I loved. And which I beat the shit out of with a baseball bat at age 12, because I was pissed at my father.

Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Err: one of these

Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:31 (twenty-one years ago)

1982/83 - used to call around my neighbours just so I could mess around on their Commodore 64 / Speccy 48.
198? - Finally got my own Sinclair, (but it was the speccy + without the rubber keyboard)
School had BBC B's which I like a lot, learnt BASIC quite fluently, mid 80's I had started learning Assembly for the Speccy
When the Amiga came out I immediately got one and sold my Speccy.
Spent almost every living day on the Amiga and buying Amiga mags, became captivated by 3D rendering software and the PD zone.
1995 - Eventually delved into the PC area with my first 100mhz 486, a great day. Didn't get hooked on the internet until late 90's as I never had the connection (shared house, no phone line)

Since then I've only upgraded when absoloutely necessary, I don't play games much on PC. I'm still living on 128mb and Win 98 (as well as Linux). But I like the nitty gritty of computing and how they work.
Currently mixing it up with the C++ language after having a brief time learning Assembly, Java, and other various Web code.

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 10:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I had an Acorn Atom from summer '81 to autumn '83 when it died. 12k upgrade on the way. Didn't have a home computer again until I picked up a secondhand Win95 model in late '97. Was fairly flaky and the HD died in autumn 2001 so I rushed out and bought (without much research) a Siemens-Fujitsu WinME PC. It's been a nightmare from day one. I look forward to the day I can drop it off the side of a five-storey building.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 10:54 (twenty-one years ago)

My family's first computer was this:

ihttp://www.old-computers.com/museum/photos/Compaq_PortableII_System_1.jpg

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 11:06 (twenty-one years ago)

How am I supposed to remember all that? It went something like grey Apple II -> shitty grey PC on dialup with grainy porn and Wing Commander -> okay grey Pentium that did mp3 stuff and burned CDs -> heavy black Compaq that did everything but burn stuff -> HP Pavilion that was good as hell but had a small, heavy, hot-burning screen I thought was somehow killing my body with fumes and radiation (this was when I was going crazy) -> newer faster HP Pavilion with bigger screen I immediately gave to my brother -> powerbook G4 I'm typing on now. I've never paid for a computer so I guess that's why I don't give a shit about them.

LeCoq (LeCoq), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)

My grandfather fancied himself as a novelist, and had a massive word processor that I found endlessly fascinating. It used orange type on a black screen is all I really remember, and was about the size of a chest freezer.

That must have been the early 80s, before I persuaded my folks to get us a Commodore 64. I never had a disk drive - they were dead exotic - but I did manage to master at least one game, Raid Over Moscow. I loved that game (and will totally try and find the ROM online when I get home).

After three years of playing football manager games on friends' PCs (and making do with a sweet, functional Canon word processor at university), I once again used my powers of persuasion to make my parents buy a 166MHz PC for the home. It was on this computer that I learned most of what I know today about how the things work; infortunately, I learned this by mucking about with it to such an extent it became completely crippled. My parents still have it, thanks to a much-needed disk wipe and reinstall, but they barely ever use it.

In 1998 I paid Vicky's dad £700 to build me a lovely sexy new PC with 450MHz of processing powah and 128 sexy Mb of RAM. It was great! Until it too got so fucked over (this time, I suspect, with viruses and spyware more than because I deleted system files) and I bought my current PC from a company in Stoke. This was July 2003, and they built me a shit-hot system for very little money. It's worked near-perfectly ever since. Unlike the company who sold it to me - they ended up taking hundreds of "bargain" orders via eBay then doing a runner with £250,000 and no forwarding address.

Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 11:17 (twenty-one years ago)

1983: ZX81
1984: BBC Home computer (32K)
Nothing for 20 years apart from occasionally at work
2004: Dell

Things seem to have moved on a bit in the intervening years.

The Horse of Babylon (the pirate king), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 11:59 (twenty-one years ago)

My first experience of computers - apart from arcade's - was a friends Vic 20, and my cousin's Acorn (the cut-price BBC, I can't remember the name)

Got my first computer second hand from my uncle, a Commodore 64 when I was about 9 or 10 in the mid-80s, and I seemed to spend most of my spare time on it, until about 5 years later when I finally managed to get an Amiga 500 in about 1990. Again, spent most of my spare time with it! Got involved in the Amiga demo scene, originally making graphics using Deluxe Paint, but then started tinkering with making music on trackers.

After going to university in , I stopped using my computer for anything other than making music or writing essays. I used the university computers for t'internet and email but stayed with my Amiga, until 1999. I decided I need to get a more powerful comp for music, so with the help of my brother I built a PC. I used a Pentium III 450mhz processor, a 128 meg memory stick, an 8 Gig hardrive, a Terratec soundcard, and a Matrox dual head video card. I gradually upgraded: extra memory, new hardrives, better power supply; and 2 or 3 years ago I changed the motherboard and got a Pentium IV 1.6 Ghz which I overclocked to 2.1 Ghz, and I still have this today.

I'd love to upgrade, but I don't have the cash, and I don't reallyt need to, as this does everything pretty well - it would just be handy to have some extra processing power when making music!

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 12:02 (twenty-one years ago)

1984: Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K, the rubber keyboard version
1988: Sinclair ZX Spectrum 128+2A the amstrad built one with a built in tape deck, and was grey instead of black.
1993: Commodore Amiga A1200, used this all the way through two degrees, added extra RAM, a 170Mb Hard Disk.
2001: MESH Athlon 1200, came with Windows Me - now got it running XP pro. I've upgraded the hell out of it 1Gb Ram, Over 300Gb HD space, faster gpu, pvr card, etc. Still using it every day.
2003: IBM Thinkpad PII 333, bought for mobility off of ebay. It's currently running XP pro, though it was running Mandrake linux for a while.
2004: Dell Optiplex G1 PIII 350, bought for £30 off ebay to use as a linux development box. Which it does nicely.
2004: Apple Powerbook G4 12", which is a lovely thing.

Greig (treefell), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

1981: ZX81. I was three years old, and loved playing with it even though the keyboard (flat pressure-pads, not even Spectrum-style rubber) was hell for a kid to use. It died on us in 1986, so my only computer access for a while was playing Granny's Garden and using the Folio word processor on my primary school's BBC Model Bs.

1989: Amstrad CPC, second-hand off a neighbour. I learned Basic, and tried to understand Z80 machine code.

1996: University - a mixture of BW and colour System 7 Macs in the university library.

1997: my first PC: a 200MHz K6., running Win95. Later installed SuSE 6.0 on it.

2003: after said PC died, I got an Emergency Replacement from work - a 266MHz K6 running Gentoo. Officially a long-term loan, at least originally; when I left the company, they told me not to bother brining it back. It's still my main home machine.

The day before yesterday: my new PC arrived! An Athlon 64 3500+, 512Mb, 200Gb disk. Still can't get over how much faster it is than the previous one - at least 10x at a rough guess. My AMD-love was previously just coincidence, but this time I did deliberately go for an Athlon 64 machine. Currently in the middle of installing Gentoo on it (grub is giving me a headache).

caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 12:21 (twenty-one years ago)

ZX81. in my day we had 1K and liked it.

Spectrum. was a 16K but that failed within a month and upgraded when we got it fixed.

Atari ST. was never the same after i did my own RAM upgrade.

Amiga. was never the same after i added that accelerator card. first hard drive. first cdrom.

Win 3.1 25MHz 486 laptop that job #1 was getting rid off / didn't know i had. still has a copy of Netscape 3 on it.

Celeron 433 from Evesham bought with redundancy money with "Windows 98 pre-installed for your convenience". also dual boots into Mandrake 9.1. still use it for emailing / browsing from home as the only modem i have is the winmodem in this. cost over £1000 in '99.

Mandrake 10.0 / Win98 P3 1GHz built from various bits. unfortunately it was obsolete before it was finished which is what happens if you spend 6 months accumulating all the pieces. Main development machine for the various bits of crap i do to pass the time in lieu of having a Life.

P3 733. Currently running FC1(?) bought in liquidation sale from job #2 when they dot bombed. Really only needed the monitor so this is largely unused.

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 13:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I've remembered them all:
ZX81
Commodore VIC-20 (had a memory pack with it, can't remember the size)
Spectrum 48k
Spectrum +2 (or whatever it was called, had a built in tape drive and possible more memory)
Atari ST
Amiga 600
Amiga 1200
386SX (25MHz?)
484DX (40Mhz?)
P90
P3 500Mhz
Athlon 2000+

Loads of others at college, uni & work.

Next up is an Athlon 64 of some sort with a PCI express mb and GFX card. If I can raise the cash.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 13:10 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.uknet.net/showcase/Museum/088_Texas_Instruments_TI99_4A.sized.jpg

1986? - The TI99/4A. Used mainly for games (I was 10) - 'Facemaker' is the only one I remember, sort of a computerized version of Mr. Potato Head. Took cartridges but also ran programs off of cassette tapes, with a player that hooked into the back.

1989 - IBM XT, salvaged by my mother from her office junkpile. Used to program endless Zork-stylee adventure games. Also a word processor . After a memory upgrade to 640k, I was able to run Space Quest 3, Hero's Quest, and the Colonel's Bequest -- geeking it up, yeah! Trashed in 1993.

1996 - In college I borrowed a friend's old Mac Classic to write my thesis on.

1997 - HP Desktop P2 etc. B

57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

as of about 8 am this morning, 1 dual screen box, 2 more boxes on craptastic cybex KVM, three 17" LCDs, two mice, two keyboards, all dell, all government, all windows, all the time, I love my job again

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

This is like remembering former relationships...
My first computer, given/unloaded on my family (though I was the only one interested) when I was 11 (1987ish) or so was a Colecovision Adam: http://www.cedmagic.com/history/adam-computer.html
Total love/hate relationship, took 10 minutes to save a short document to *tape* drive, brought me to tears more than once, but I perservered. Plus, you could play Zaxxon on it.

I switched to straight-up wordprocessors btwn '89 and '97 - a Br0ther glorified typewriter and then a Br0ther "laptop" wordprocessor with awesome tiny green screen and, gasp, floppy drive. I was teh poor. They worked well for what I needed, though it was never love. Also, I cheated on them a lot by using the university's mac lab. A lot.

University graduation present from grandparents was a '98 Compaq Presario laptop, which I'll admit was great at first but never quite up to speed, yet it worked well enough (despite obviously lacking so much) until this past November, when it began to deny me access. The frustration was too much, so I (and my visa card) broke down and bought a T0shiba A50 laptop. So beautiful, so understanding. It's been love ever since.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

1986? - The TI99/4A. Used mainly for games (I was 10) - 'Facemaker' is the only one I remember, sort of a computerized version of Mr. Potato Head. Took cartridges but also ran programs off of cassette tapes, with a player that hooked into the back.

The problem with the TI was the connector to the TV always seemed to be the first thing to go. While I never had the voice synthizer unit, I did have MASH, Miner 49, Tunnels of Doom (best RPG at the time), Dig Dug and used to program what was basically Snake in their version of BASIC.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

1980 - A Nascom microcomputer, which my Dad built from a kit. I was only a year old at the time, but Dad programmed a very simple game called "Burst The Balloon" which I reportedly enjoyed a great deal.

1981 - Some kind of computer that ran C/PM (remember that?). Had no graphics mode, b&w text only. Used floppy disks that were 8 inches wide and long. I had a games collection for this - one was called "Goat & Bomb", where you sat and watched a goat and a bomb blink on and off in random parts of the screen. If they appeared on the same location, the goat got blown up. Like many of the computers we owned, this came from my Dad's place of work (Rank Xerox) on loan and eventually stayed with us permamently when the progress of technology rendered it obsolete.

1985 - A Xerox-badged 8086 PC, that ran MS-DOS and had CGA graphics. Was in use for the next five years, had loads of (mainly shareware) games on it.

1988 - I finally got a computer for my own personal use - a Spectrum +3! Used those weird, thin disks that Amstrad word processors also used. I still have this computer, but I haven't used it in years. Emulators are a bit easier to handle. I love this machine, anyways.

1990 - Inherited an Amiga 2000 with Workbench 3.0 from Dad's work. Had a hard drive, but it never worked so I had to run everything from floppies. Another machine I am very fond of, and have an emulator for on my current PC.

1992/3 (?) - a 386 PC to replace the now ancient 8086. Windows 3.1. Followed soon after by...

1994 - A 486 PC, originally using Windows 3.1, later upgraded to Win 95 when that came out. This was the first computer since the Speccy that we bought ourselves. Also the first computer we used for Internet access a year later.

1997 (?) - A Pentium II, with Win 95. Upgraded various times, more memory, bigger hard drive, Windows 98.

1999 - AMD Athlon PC with Windows 98. Still using it today.

As well as the above I should mention that for a weekend in 1986 my Dad brought home an early laptop, which was more like a massive plastic brick, and ran Windows 2.0 on a screen that had two colours - red and black. Also, as a sidenote, we owned some huge, very very early versions of portable disks that were sitting in a cupboard in my room until about 1995. They apparently contained programs to be used on a computer running the very first GUI operating system, Bravo X, which I think Apple based their OS on, or so I am told.

Chriddof (Chriddof), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Are work computers included in this?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

They probably should be, yeah.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Every job I've ever really enjoyed had Apples.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

80s: Commodore 64
~1993: Intel 486 33/SX with Windows 3.1
~1996: Pentium 166 with Windows 95
1999: Pentium III 550 Celeron laptop with Windows 98 (what I'm using right now, as a desktop)

a banana (alanbanana), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)


We couldn't afford computers when I was a kid, which is really funny, because my dad worked on really, really old computers way, way back when.

But I used Macs all through high school and college. I only got my first *new* Mac, an ibook, last year. But I've been working on PCs through my whole post-college career.

Shatterproof Glass (dymaxia), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

late 80s: Apple ][e
1991?: 386, eventually with 8 megs of ram and Windows 3.1
1995: Pentium 100, eventually Windows 95. 32 megs of ram eventually
1997: Pentium 233MMX, Windows 95, 98, Slackware Linux. 96 megs of ram eventually.
2000: Athlon 800, 512 megs of ram eventually... Debian GNU/Linux
2004: Powerbook 12" 768 megs of ram.

Assorted less powerful server/test machines running OpenBSD, Debian, Slackware, DOS, etc.

Dr. Eldon Tyrell (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

have no idea of the years:

apple IIc - mostly used to play joust on.
apple mac
dell optiplex gx1 - used at work and still do
compaq presario
emachine

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Atari 2006
Atari 7008
Atari ~something~ (home computer)
Commdore Vic 20
Commodore 64
Commodore Amiga A500
Sinclair Spectrum +
Nintendo NES
SNES
N64
Gamecube
Sony Playstation
Neo Geo Pocket Color
Sega Master System
Sega Megadrive
Sega Dreamcast

Nintendo Gameboy
Gameboy Color
Cameboy Advance
Win95 PC, 100Mhz Pentium 1
Tin98 PC 666Mhz AMD processor.

(+lots of different work PCs, but never a Mac)

Today I've been craving an old Mac, because of the Ma chate thread and cos Douglas Adams useed one. Boo.

mei (mei), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.allaboutapple.com/museo/pictures/donazioni/quadra_610.jpg

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

C64
Packard Bell home computer
Compaq Presario 700 + Nintendo DS + Gamecube

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

TRS-80

IBM "PC XT" ("eXtreme technology"??? it wasn't as good as the "AT" (advanced technology))

Quadra 610

PowerMac 7200/75

G3 PB

G4 PB

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

First computer was a Commodore VIC-20 that my folks bought in the early 80s. Used to have fun writing random sentence generators in Basic and playing video games on it. The thing I remember about that machine is that it had 5KB of RAM, which was plenty at the time. I don't think I personally owned a computer after that until I graduated from college and got a Dell running Windows 95 with 200MHz processor.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

My TRS-80 had 16K I think, it was a powerhouse. Removable media = cassette tapes.

One nightmarish day me and my friend Josh had hooked the tape recorder up to the computer. But we used the wrong cable, somehow. The tape recorder accepted a four-pin plug, but all we had was a two-pin plug. The two pins seemed to fit alright, though. We turned everything on and the computer started emitting BLUE SPARKS and SMOKE from the back!@ We jumped up like it was WW III and ran for the door and stood there, trembling, looking at this catastrophe from afar. My dad came running in, shaking his head, like he knew something like this would happen. Everything worked fine afterwards, but there was a big smoky stain on the back of the computer.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

PC XT

P 90

P 200

PII600/Blue and White G3

Athlon 3200+ (just arrived today!)

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

(Important to keep in mind during previous story: at that time it was quite easily imaginable that computers might take control of the house, the neighborhood, and the world, if you hit the wrong button, or if you angered them (cf Weird Science, cf War Games, cf Real Genius))

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I forgot about my overclocked Celeron 300A!!!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I want a System 7 era mac with all the cool shareware.

Also, a 486 with a CDROM to play old cdrom games in proper setting

Dr. Eldon Tyrell (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

First computer (in the eighth grade) -- a used 286 PC with less than 1/160th the hard drive space that's currently available to me. DOS was my OS back then, and the most exciting thing I was able to do with that computer was change the colors around on DOS' shell program. I accidentally formatted the C: drive, which got the computer support guy from Mom's work who'd originally acquired that and other computers after a local business went belly-up, back over to the house to repair the computer. When I got it back, the computer had been upgraded to a 386 with Windows 3.1. Was thrilled to death about that. When I first began hearing about this thing called the Internet back in 1995, I wondered how on Earth my computer could do that, and when I heard about how others were actually using their computers to listen to music, I was confused because there was no way at all I could see my computer emitting any sounds other than the beeping system sounds I got. (There was neither speakers nor a CD-ROM drive.

To celebrate my impending graduation from grade school and going on to high school, my parents splurged for a new PC -- one with an actual Pentium processor! And with about 2GB of HD! And a CD-ROM drive! And speakers! And a built-in modem! I could actually listen to music AND go online on this computer, which I immediately proceeded to do. And, for a short while, it was glorious. Then I started experiencing problems with it. Lots and lots of problems. I had no idea of the poor quality of NEC brand computers and, combined with the fact that Win95 seemed destined to give me a hard time via the Blue Screen of Death once a week or so, I had a hard time with the computer up until I ended up having to replace the HD (to a 30GB one -- mind boggling!) and upgrading the OS to Win98. And then things were peachy until things started getting buggy for me. Finally, the big shutdown of last year occurred and I had to retire the already well-past-outdated PC.

Now, there's the one I'm currently using, i.e. my beautiful gray Compaq baby. It came with an AMD Athlon processor (2.13 GHz, which is impossibly fast to me), 512 MB of RAM, an 80GB HD, a combo DVD-ROM/CD-RW drive, actual name brand speakers, and an OS, WinXP, that I've found has not failed me in the manner that Win95 or Win98 have. I'm still in the swoony honeymoon-ey period with this computer, though it's dying off slowly but surely.

Work computer: A Hewlett-Packard computer from approximately 1998. Uses Windows NT. Speakers, which we in the office are allowed to use to play CDs so long as we plug in earphones. Online access, but strictly guarded, which is why I only use it for academic-related purposes. Don't know the specifics of the computer, because those features have been disabled by the admin.

School computers have ranged from older computers that ran Windows 3.1 to upgraded computers that ran Win95 to new computers that ran Win95 to new computers that ran Win98 to older computers that ran Win98 to new computers that look as though they're running WinXP but are in reality running a snazzy version of WinNT.

And that's my history with computers. Not a single Apple-manufatured computer in the bunch.

Surreal Addiction (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 17 March 2005 02:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I worked at a bank from the mid 70s until 1987 using a Burroughs full face 100+ key adding machine in the beginning. Moved up to a Burroughs teletype for transactions circa 1975. Moved on to an IBM somethingorother early 80s and then nothing..........until late 2000 when I took a job that had a windows-98 PC. I added a scanner, as I was still using a 35mm camera.

I purchased my first and only computer to date in 2003; an HP laptop PC with an AMD processor. The hard drive died just last week and I replaced it with the only one immediately available - 40 gig - and for the record I burned my first music CD today. Kinks Kontroversy borrowed from the local library.

I am such a luddite it isn't even funny.

jim wentworth (wench), Thursday, 17 March 2005 02:30 (twenty-one years ago)

fifteen years pass...

"Cloud Computing" is sold as a bold step forward, but it's actually 50 years backwards, to the days of mainframes and terminals. Also, isn't 'cloud computing' really just the internet?

Sorry for the rant, using a cloud product that's about as fast as 1991 dialup. Grrr.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 February 2021 20:33 (five years ago)

As someone who first used a tractor-feed teletype terminal connected to a timeshare mainframe 50 years ago, in 1971, I can assure you that however much of a backward step cloud computing might be, it is not a 50-year backward step.

Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Thursday, 25 February 2021 20:58 (five years ago)

Okay, maybe I'm characteristically exaggerating. But isn't the concept largely the same? My laptop becomes a terminal to access their incredibly slow servers?

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 February 2021 21:25 (five years ago)

Unless your laptop is just pathetically under-powered and lacking in memory and local storage, it can and should be doing the great majority of the computing that's necessary to whatever task you are doing. That's what your CPU, memory and storage device are there for.

The cloud is great for backup and offsite storage. Pushing applications software and computation up to the cloud has nothing to do with computational efficiency and everything to do with centralized control of the software. It makes life easier for IT managers and worse for end-users. Guess who wins that battle.

Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Thursday, 25 February 2021 21:48 (five years ago)

Okay, I see what you're saying. I thought I was actually logging onto their AWS servers or whatever and it was all taking place remotely. That's what it feels like anyway.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 February 2021 21:59 (five years ago)

The chromebook model of computing was a step in the direction of turning laptops into limited-ability terminals, with most computation happening remotely. I don't know how your system is interacting with the remote servers, but it could be mostly like a terminal, depending where each action is taking place.

Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Thursday, 25 February 2021 22:03 (five years ago)

I think the big advantage of cloud computing isn't so much on the personal end, but in SAAS stuff for businesses, which no longer have to host data on site and deal with server maintenance, backup, DR/BC issues, etc. At least at my (small) company, getting as much stuff on the cloud makes everything a lot easier. NB I am a lawyer not in IT.

perhaps I myself was the object of my search (PBKR), Friday, 26 February 2021 02:42 (five years ago)


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