Quoting Nathan Barley C/D

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wee bit of back ground

secondhandnews, Thursday, 17 March 2005 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

hi kelvin, how's it fucking gaping?

N_RQ, Thursday, 17 March 2005 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

another backfire situation for Brooker?

Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Frenetically memetic linguistic vitality = Sign of a resonant, resilient classic in the mold of Clockwork Orange and 1984. Try to unthink that, droogs!

Momus (Momus), Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Sellout

wo ist meine keybords? (Lynskey), Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

totally Mexico.

Johnney B (Johnney B), Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Sellout

wo ist meine keybords? (Lynskey), Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it's fairly classic to quote at the moment espesh as nobody in my office knows what it is, probly won't be saying that in a few months time tho.

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

pain - pain of a monkey.

N_RQ, Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Of all the TV shows I've watched in the last 3-4 years, Nathan Barley seems to be the most "quotable" - not necessarily the most well written, nor the funniest, but every episode is filled with one-liners that demand quotation by sad fan-boys. Is that the point? Or not? Or what?

OTM about the timing, but I rather think that even in a few months no-one'll know about the show. Try quoting Brass Eye at people and you'll see what I mean - "I don't smoke the horse" will still get you confused looks.

Johnney B (Johnney B), Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

on this occasion i'd say Dud because the 'catchphrases' in NB are clearly deployed to highlight further the Idiocy of those indulging in it. how this translates to irl situations tho is curious because on the surface saying 'well weapon' or 'fucking Mexico' need only amount to a declaration that you are down with the show. unfortunately this undermines what Brooker's probably trying to do (discourage this sort of thing completely by running it into the ground? or is it all just a bit of fun after all?)

Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

i think you answered your own quesiton there, etc?

NR_Q, Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

or is it all just a bit of fun after all?)

yup

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a snake-eating-itself tardis-in-another-tardis thing. I've been using Barley quotes to respond to any shameless hipstering I encounter. It's been fun watching the reaction from the Nathan's that I know, who have all taken the response of either seeing themselves as Dan Ashcroft or developing a massive blindspot to the fact that the show/Morris/Brooker hates them.

wo ist meine keybords? (Lynskey), Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm always quoting the "stupid people think it's cool, cool people think it's a joke" line, simply because it accuratly most pop culture (and a lot fo "serious" culture) from the last twenty years. I hope that doesn't make me a bad person.

Johnney B (Johnney B), Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

accuratly describes

Johnney B (Johnney B), Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

otm - Jonotton Yeah? is actually the real hero of the piece!

Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 17 March 2005 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Does this mean we can't say 'back of the net!' any more?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 17 March 2005 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

jurassic park!

N_RQ, Thursday, 17 March 2005 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

kudos to Gervais and Merchant for avoiding this business somewhat with The Office

Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 17 March 2005 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

"this business" is what comedy is all about! if proof be need be, the fast show was built on the idea of epople randomly quoting stuff.

NR_Q, Thursday, 17 March 2005 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

There are a lot of funny things that aren't quotable, slapstick being the obvious example.

(I do still regularly use 'if proof be need be')

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 17 March 2005 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

> the fast show was built on the idea of epople randomly quoting stuff

I'm An Alien!

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 17 March 2005 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

tardis-in-another-tardis thing - You mean like a gravity bubble?

(sorry)

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 17 March 2005 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

"this business" is what comedy is all about! if proof be need be, the fast show was built on the idea of epople randomly quoting stuff.

it's also why The Fast Show (and the king, Harry Enfield) seems a lot less funny now than it did at the time. ready-made catchphrases are a quick fix that leads to massive 'dating' five to ten years later.

Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 17 March 2005 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

When the second series of I'm Alan Partridge went out people seemed to seize upon the catchphrases (or they forcibly catchphrased bits of dialogue) as the best bits. I really didn't like that focus.

A lot of Morris's stuff is quotable because the language is so rich, the syntax so warped. It's a question of quoting with a bit of, y'know, nous. "Well weapon" doesn't tickle me, "well abject" does.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 17 March 2005 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I spose the difference between shows like the fast show to NB is the difference between catchphrases and quotable-ness...

secondhandnews, Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

"Keep it foolish!" and probably many better. ;) Quoting it is hardly becoming An Idiot, considering the sheer oddity and absurdity of such phrases. Often the show has purely Morris-linguistic lines that don't seem quite in fitting with the characters' erm, foolery; the line occasionally bites the speaker.

Tom May (Tom May), Friday, 18 March 2005 01:30 (twenty-one years ago)

ok so momus' Frenetically memetic linguistic vitality pins down what i like about grime, and the language that surrounds it. but whatever reason that new senses get given to old words, phrases get elided into one word, and words are used in different grammtical ways, in that context, it seems more successful than in morris/brookers attempts. im trying to think why that is, im not sure of it, but i cant help feeling that.

ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 18 March 2005 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm slightly unclear how the process you've just described differs from slang.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 18 March 2005 02:09 (twenty-one years ago)

TOTAL FUCKING MEXICO
WELL BROWN
WELL NO WAY
MICHAEL FUCKING JACKSON

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 18 March 2005 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)

PEACE AND FUCKING. BELIEVE.

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 18 March 2005 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/features/screen-wipe.shtml

New series of Screen Wipe (his Screen Burn column on tv basically). enjoyed the last one. gave the impression he was biting the hand that was feeding him.

koogy wonderland (koogs), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

in the ad for the show he is moaning about the style of the ad...but he still went and did the ad...*brane cannae take no more*

Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

maybe he will review 'rob brydon's unamusing pun [ah but dyss we KNOW it's not amusing lol]' and then brydon will comment on it.

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

I really like "Anually Retentive", actually...

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

it is being discussed!

A Thread To Discuss The New Comedy Series on British TV This Week

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)


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