welcome to the cultural revolution (aka what the FUCK is wrong with the florida legislature?)

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That might be what I do, but I'm still not too good at articulating things so I need to learn more first.

(unlike the flatness or otherwise of the world) (the ppl who are still convinced of this are unlikely to be hired to operate in all kinds of key industries: but no one much is likely to die or lose money if evolution turns out to be wrong) (the moment this is demonstrably not so, then the debate will dwindle)

ie it's pretty much totally a bogus problem, and the legislation being proposed takes the judgment out away from the one place it can reasonably be made, which is IN the classroom itself (by the congregation collectively present)

ie if ALL the pupils think this, then it's probably so: if only one of them thinks this, it probably isn't

trolls vs moderators on ilx being an opposite parallel

(also i wd rather give up the socratic method entirely than put a crimp in my disdain for the intelligence of david horowitz)

About the power dynamic, thing, too, you might be somewhat heartened to know that your experience is not universal. Cue Snap: "I've got the power." But that's because I respect my students, even those ign'ant conservative Christians. If anything, the main "problems" I've seen in classrooms involve kids having too much fun--still hungover, the occassional ones obviously stoned, etc.--but that's part of the college experience, so I work around that. Teaching's fun, believe it or not, and the fun party kids (who skew conservative, strangely) can be a good time.

(sorry anthony)

not personally, but I have kept silent when a professor has been going on about something that was completely contradictor to my belief.

"nairn has done this sort of thread derailing before -- and almost ALWAYS when the thread is criticizing conservatives. he's like roger adultery, only sneakier and more passive-aggressive."

It's not when the thread is criticizing conservatives, but when the thread criticizes Biblical Christianity.

yer on a par spelling-wise w/ hanle y -- though NOT in terms of wit (unless yer whole series of posts is a gigantic leg-pull, in which case you've out hanle y'ed hanle y wr2 amusing incoherence!)

haha actually the one time i've had a john houseman type prof was this EXTREMELY conservative who tended to dismiss my liberal objections to whatever she was on about that day (eg. that the liberal media didn't give the janet jackson brouhaha the attention it deserved)(my persecution drawing response: 'are you fucking kidding me???'). ego-mad professors exist but pretending there's a correlation between ego and ideology seems quite suspect to me and even here i suspect persecution at most = not being patted on the head or agreed with, god (sorry God) forbid. i'm not even sure there's any relation between openminded/humble teacher = good teacher. certainly not the case in boot camp at least.

(the last bit's rhetorical) (though a date wd be entertaining)

um, there's an article about "jesus in the classroom" from last week's new yorker about this guy in silicon valley...

does it bother any so-called christians, biblical or otherwise, that using a word like "persecution" in regards to having one's belief challenge completely debases the term? like, y'know, how having a professor challenge your beliefs is NOTHING like being set ablaze, gored by lions, or crucified?

ergo, this thread ----> Trustafarianism ... and THIS thread ----> defend the indefensible: THE IVY LEAGUE

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