About the power dynamic, thing, too, you might be somewhat heartened to know that your experience is not universal. Cue Snap: "I've got the power." But that's because I respect my students, even those ign'ant conservative Christians. If anything, the main "problems" I've seen in classrooms involve kids having too much fun--still hungover, the occassional ones obviously stoned, etc.--but that's part of the college experience, so I work around that. Teaching's fun, believe it or not, and the fun party kids (who skew conservative, strangely) can be a good time.
― Professor Pushover, Friday, 25 March 2005 02:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:10 (nineteen years ago) link
(sorry anthony)
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:12 (nineteen years ago) link
not personally, but I have kept silent when a professor has been going on about something that was completely contradictor to my belief.
"nairn has done this sort of thread derailing before -- and almost ALWAYS when the thread is criticizing conservatives. he's like roger adultery, only sneakier and more passive-aggressive."
It's not when the thread is criticizing conservatives, but when the thread criticizes Biblical Christianity.
― A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matt Chesnut, Friday, 25 March 2005 02:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matt Chesnut, Friday, 25 March 2005 02:16 (nineteen years ago) link
yer on a par spelling-wise w/ hanle y -- though NOT in terms of wit (unless yer whole series of posts is a gigantic leg-pull, in which case you've out hanle y'ed hanle y wr2 amusing incoherence!)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:18 (nineteen years ago) link
haha actually the one time i've had a john houseman type prof was this EXTREMELY conservative who tended to dismiss my liberal objections to whatever she was on about that day (eg. that the liberal media didn't give the janet jackson brouhaha the attention it deserved)(my persecution drawing response: 'are you fucking kidding me???'). ego-mad professors exist but pretending there's a correlation between ego and ideology seems quite suspect to me and even here i suspect persecution at most = not being patted on the head or agreed with, god (sorry God) forbid. i'm not even sure there's any relation between openminded/humble teacher = good teacher. certainly not the case in boot camp at least.
― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:23 (nineteen years ago) link
(the last bit's rhetorical) (though a date wd be entertaining)
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Professor Pushover, Friday, 25 March 2005 02:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:27 (nineteen years ago) link
um, there's an article about "jesus in the classroom" from last week's new yorker about this guy in silicon valley...
does it bother any so-called christians, biblical or otherwise, that using a word like "persecution" in regards to having one's belief challenge completely debases the term? like, y'know, how having a professor challenge your beliefs is NOTHING like being set ablaze, gored by lions, or crucified?
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:33 (nineteen years ago) link
ergo, this thread ----> Trustafarianism ... and THIS thread ----> defend the indefensible: THE IVY LEAGUE
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:35 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.synthfool.com/maw/booji.jpg
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:48 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.rsnt.org/assets/arch_of_titus_depicting_roman_exile_of_jews.jpg
real awesome:
http://fusionanomaly.net/devomongoloid7inchfront.jpg
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:49 (nineteen years ago) link
http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/dreamworks_skg/gladiator/joaquin_phoenix/gladiator2.jpg
"just a bit of fun. let's all be cool."
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:51 (nineteen years ago) link
60,000+ Hispanic Christians to “Rock” at LA Coliseum
Three days of inspirational music and messages
Los Angeles, CA (PRWEB) February 19, 2005 -- ActionHouse presents Festival Bajo el Sol, three days of inspirational music and messages at the Los Angeles Coliseum for the Hispanic Christian community with performances from the best Christian entertainers and speakers.
Who: Internationally renowned Speaker Luis Palau. Performances by Marcos Witt, El Trio De Hoy, Annette Moreno, Joshua Chavez and many more!
When: Concert July 16th 5:00 – 9:30 pm. followed by Youth After Party On the Infield till 12:00 am - Carnival July 15 – 17, 2005
Where: Los Angeles Coliseum - 3939 S Figueroa Street, Los Angeles, CA 90037
Tickets: $19.00 General Admission, $35.00 Infield (ages 2 and under enter free!) tickets will be available thru Ticketmaster, Christian bookstores and at the Coliseum box office. Discounted Group tickets available 1-800-872-7002
Located in the heart of the city and the Hispanic community, Festival Bajo el Sol is expected to draw between 60,000 – 80,000 people with carnival rides, booth merchants and family festivities.
"Last year's event at the LA Sports Arena was so successful," states producer, Benny Colon of ActionHouse, "that we were asked to do it again!"
ActionHouse is located at the Los Angeles Dream Center in the heart of Los Angeles, California. Mentoring the youth and inspiring artists of all nationalities, ActionHouse is helping to develop the next generation of inspired artists, actors, and producers. Their facility includes dance studios, private editing suites, student lounge, and a computer lab with state-of-the-art workstations for video editing and production. Through internships and mentoring programs, ActionHouse is making a way for the next generation. www.actionhouse.net
More information on Festival Bajo el Sol, performing talent, or merchant and sponsorship opportunities visit www.festivalbajoelsol.com
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:52 (nineteen years ago) link
Tickets: $19.00 General Admission, $35.00 Infidel
― Matt Chesnut, Friday, 25 March 2005 02:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 25 March 2005 02:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Friday, 25 March 2005 03:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― latebloomer: damn cheapskate satanists (latebloomer), Friday, 25 March 2005 04:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― latebloomer: damn cheapskate satanists (latebloomer), Friday, 25 March 2005 04:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matt Chesnut, Friday, 25 March 2005 04:43 (nineteen years ago) link
BAHAHAHAHA yay bullshit strawman conservative talking point!
prof #1: "Goddammit, Kingfish, you will BELIEVE that carbon nanotubes are the way of the future, and have a Young's modulus such to make a space elevator VIABLE!"
kingfish: "YOU'LL NEVER FORCE ME TO TAKE PART IN YOUR DOGMA!" prof #2: "You will SWEAR on the name of all that you believe is holy in your so-called 'Christendom' that correctly-sized NMOS transistors can properly bias the input stage of a monolithic-amplifier circuit requiring FAR less surface area than if you were to use actual resistors OR YOU WILL NOT PASS THIS CLASS and you will be BANNED from my classroom!"
kingfish: "NEVER!"
― kingfish van pickles (Kingfish), Friday, 25 March 2005 04:54 (nineteen years ago) link
Conceptual Metaphors, Progressive Values, and Reframing in America: the Work of George Lakoff
― kingfish van pickles (Kingfish), Friday, 25 March 2005 06:26 (nineteen years ago) link
What place does belief have in an intellectually rigorous education, or discipline? None whatsoever, either back yourself up with evidence and a rigorous argument, or shut up. This doesn't meant that there has to be agreement on what is true or even agreement on what constitutes valid evidence, but something as insubstantial as belief has no place at all in a rigorous education.
― Ed (dali), Friday, 25 March 2005 09:15 (nineteen years ago) link
i don't consider "relativism" a problem: wrestling fact from the power politics of life is as hard now as it wz yesterday, 100 years ago, or a thousand years ago)
After seeing The Life Of Galileo recently, I did think that at least now that this pope is dying, scientists aren't terrified about the sucession. I know, for Pope read US President + Congress + Senate + Supreme Court in three years time, but that's progress of a sort.
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 25 March 2005 09:46 (nineteen years ago) link
Materialism, Empiralism, Darwinism, or whatever are all beliefs that currently have a large place in education. These are not treated as insubstantial.
― A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 25 March 2005 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 25 March 2005 14:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― proflove, Friday, 25 March 2005 15:05 (nineteen years ago) link
or the ones who think that the Sermon on the Mount/"feed the hungry"/"heal the sick"-thing might be onto something?
― kingfish, Friday, 25 March 2005 17:21 (nineteen years ago) link