Do you ever feel like you've completely lost faith in the idea that man is a rational animal?

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911 and future repercussions - in light of so much conspiracy theory
JESUS CAMP
"I Had One of Them Muslims In the Back of My Popemobile Once..."
"Americans will come to believe that the only people hard-headed enough to fight the religious lunatics of the Muslim world are the religious lunatics of the West."

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 22 September 2006 01:40 (nineteen years ago)

since when were people ever rational?

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 22 September 2006 01:46 (nineteen years ago)

Wolf Eyes - Human Animal

― Wolf Jagger (Haberdager), Friday, 22 September 2006 01:50 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - I didn't say they ever were. I just used to hope that maybe human history could move in a more rational direction.

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 22 September 2006 01:56 (nineteen years ago)

And what do you do about it? Do you keep on carrying the banner of rationalism in spite of that being futile? Do you give up and join the crazies that best suit you because it's better to live with conviction? Do you just hide out on internet forums and complain a lot? Is it deluding yourself to even think you're being any more rational than anyone else?

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 22 September 2006 01:57 (nineteen years ago)

the last.

― ryan (ryan), Friday, 22 September 2006 01:59 (nineteen years ago)

he's got a lot of anger, folks.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Friday, 22 September 2006 02:16 (nineteen years ago)

seriously, the thread entitled "jesus camp" should really include a link to the trailer for _Jesus Camp_ the movie, an expose of sorts that goes out of it's way to show the correlate between orthodox christians and muslim suicide bombers. the last scene shows a very young girl shedding tears of religious ecstasy. it evokes a strange mixture of feelings.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/magnolia/jesuscamp/trailer/

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Friday, 22 September 2006 02:18 (nineteen years ago)

Um, it does.

I don't have that much anger, you're just a douchebag.

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 22 September 2006 02:26 (nineteen years ago)

okay, they did link to that, i just didn't see it. i'm definitely no longer a rational animal.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Friday, 22 September 2006 02:26 (nineteen years ago)

and a-ron is the king of the ad hominem logical fallacy.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Friday, 22 September 2006 02:27 (nineteen years ago)

It's neither logical, nor a fallacy.

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 22 September 2006 02:36 (nineteen years ago)

and that, my friends, is the problem

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Friday, 22 September 2006 02:38 (nineteen years ago)

ban squirrel police

― gear (gear), Friday, 22 September 2006 02:42 (nineteen years ago)

and that, my friends

They're not your friends.

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 22 September 2006 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

Judging from your rapid-fire responses, they're you're only.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Friday, 22 September 2006 03:04 (nineteen years ago)

it's like he starts out with something that relates the right dependent clauses in the right ways, or at least ways that dependent clauses are supposed to relate to each other, and then sends it through google translator to a language w/ different ordering rules and then back to english, so that both the clauses and the phrases/words themselves point to totally unknowable places. take it out of context and it's like some weird kind of poetry.

― fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Friday, 22 September 2006 04:50 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.megat.co.uk/wrong/

― Teh littlest HoBBo (the pirate king), Friday, 22 September 2006 08:16 (nineteen years ago)

they're you're only.

Not quite as good as "I never her" but I think we could force it to become a short-lived meme.

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 22 September 2006 10:53 (nineteen years ago)

if you think men are irrational, try talking to a woman!

― LOLS (ken c), Friday, 22 September 2006 11:52 (nineteen years ago)

In Soviet Union, woman rations YOU!

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 22 September 2006 11:57 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.badmovies.org/tvshows/startrek/spock.jpg

― Everything Is Ill-Educated (noodle vague), Friday, 22 September 2006 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

how to talk to people who hate you and dealing with rightwing authoritarian types

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 22 September 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

Great links... one of them points on to this piece about how both liberals' and conversatives' political and moral beliefs are based on their conceptions of "family", and does a good job of rationalising (i.e. understanding, not accepting!) the apparent irrationality of many conservative positions.

― ledge (ledge), Friday, 22 September 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

exactly, and i think it goes a great way to augment and upgrade Lakoff's take on rightwing families, too

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 22 September 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

Guys, I just saw a Barbie doll that came with a toy dog that POOPED, I swear to god. Never mind anything posted on this thread, I really can't handle the idea that man is remotely rational when THAT exists.

― Allyzay is a town of people, people who DIED (allyzay), Friday, 22 September 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

appeal of barbie: rational
appeal of shitting dog: empirical

kids like they shit. that's just science.

― geoff (gcannon), Friday, 22 September 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Guys, I just saw a Barbie doll that came with a toy dog that POOPED, I swear to god.

well, hell, they've had dolls that pissed themselves for years. why not just extend that?

"new Homeless Ken doll -- now comes with own vomit and stink smell"

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 22 September 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

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