She is outraged at this - "Why should my child learn about other religions? They are just trying to shove other cultures in our faces."
She then began an intolerant rant about asylum seekers with their "huge houses and welfare checks, phoning their relatives in Pakistan and telling them to come here because it's all free"
I turned round and muttered something along the lines of "Maybe the school is trying to change attitudes like this", expecting a wave of support from the five or six other people round about us, but they looked at me as if I'm some kind of monster.
"Why are you sticking up for Them?"
I couldn't even answer 'cause I'm shit at debates and I know I don't have the words to change these peoples opinions. Instead my lip started wobbling out of sheer fucking frustration and I had to turn back round and compose myself.
I wish there was just ONE THING I could say to stop this kind of mince in it's tracks and see them lost for words.
Bastards.
― Rumpsy Pumpsy (Rumpie), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:20 (nineteen years ago)
― ;_; (blueski), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:23 (nineteen years ago)
― Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:24 (nineteen years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:26 (nineteen years ago)
― Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:27 (nineteen years ago)
http://thefilthypen.blogspot.com/2006/10/keep-faith.html
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:28 (nineteen years ago)
Welfare checks? Is this woman American or something?
― The sun sets on twelve tons of pickled onions. A dynasty is dying... (Dada), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:29 (nineteen years ago)
― ;_; (blueski), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:30 (nineteen years ago)
We've just been through a huge diversity phase at our place, which is pleasing to know that they're trying to educate the stupid people. Although I had to gasp one day when our intranet site had a headline: "Think only white people go fishing? Think again!"
hmmm
― Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:34 (nineteen years ago)
― ;_; (blueski), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:35 (nineteen years ago)
― Rumpsy Pumpsy (Rumpie), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:35 (nineteen years ago)
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:38 (nineteen years ago)
Then ask them if they believe in Charity - you know, one of those good Christian virtues.
If they try saying some kind of nonsense like Charity only extends to other Christians, ask them to read the story of the Good Samaritan. Then ask them if the Samaritan was Christian. (If they think not, then remind them that the Samaritan in question wasn't a Christian.)
(OK, maybe that's too suble a theological point, and also depends on their actually being "Christian")
― Going Through The Motions (kate), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:38 (nineteen years ago)
(pointing) "You're WRONG and you're a GROTESQUELY UGLY FREAK"
― The sun sets on twelve tons of pickled onions. A dynasty is dying... (Dada), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:40 (nineteen years ago)
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:43 (nineteen years ago)
you could always bring up, ooooooh, i dunno, smear tests, or your birth control preferences.
― benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:43 (nineteen years ago)
(Actually, that might be a good thing to say.)
― Going Through The Motions (kate), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:44 (nineteen years ago)
There's this mature-age student arsehole who has muttered his moronic ideals on more then one occasion. Apparently the Japanese own Australia and real Australians are banned from holding koalas and going into Gold Coast jewellery shops! Hilariously, this cunt is studying Tourism like me.
Even worse, this guy got on the Tourism Students Liason Council thanks to a half-arsed undemocratic vote (but that's another story).
I tried getting the cunt off the council but the Tourism office said I needed "evidence".
Now I've gotten off track and rather annoyed.
I'm gonna have a cuppa tea.
― The Real Esteban Buttez (EstieButtez1), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:44 (nineteen years ago)
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
― The sun sets on twelve tons of pickled onions. A dynasty is dying... (Dada), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:46 (nineteen years ago)
― Sam rides the beat like a bicycle (Molly Jones), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:49 (nineteen years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:56 (nineteen years ago)
― The sun sets on twelve tons of pickled onions. A dynasty is dying... (Dada), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:57 (nineteen years ago)
Illegal Immigrants Poem> >> > I cross ocean, poor and broke,> > Take bus, see employment folk.> >> > Nice man treat me good in there,> > Say I need to see welfare.> >> > Welfare say, "You come no more,> > We send cash right to your door."> >> > Welfare cheques, they make you wealthy,> > NHS it keep you healthy!> >> > By and by, I got plenty money,> > Thanks to you, British dummy.> >> > Write to friends in motherland,> > Tell them 'come fast as you can.'> >> > They come in turbans and Ford trucks,> > I buy big house with welfare bucks> >> > They come here, we live together,> > More welfare checks, it gets better!> >> > Fourteen families, they moving in,> > But neighbour's patience wearing thin.> >> > Finally, white guy moves away,> > Now I buy his house, and then I say,> >> > "Find more aliens for house to rent."> > And in the yard I put a tent.> >> > Send for family they just trash,> > But they,too,draw the welfare cash!> >> > Everything is very good,> > And soon we own the neighbourhood.> >> > We have hobby it's called breeding,> > Welfare pay for baby feeding.> >> > Kids need dentist? Wife need pills?> > We get free! We got no bills!> >> > Britain crazy! He pay all year,> > To keep welfare running here.> >> > We think U.K. darn good place!> > Too darn good for the white man race.> >> > If they no like us, they can scram,> > Got lots of room in Pakistan.> >> >> >> > SEND THIS TO EVERY BRITISH TAXPAYER YOU KNOW
― Rumpsy Pumpsy (Rumpie), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:59 (nineteen years ago)
― The sun sets on twelve tons of pickled onions. A dynasty is dying... (Dada), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:02 (nineteen years ago)
― Rumpsy Pumpsy (Rumpie), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:02 (nineteen years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:03 (nineteen years ago)
― Sam rides the beat like a bicycle (Molly Jones), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:03 (nineteen years ago)
― The sun sets on twelve tons of pickled onions. A dynasty is dying... (Dada), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:04 (nineteen years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:07 (nineteen years ago)
― Rumpsy Pumpsy (Rumpie), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:07 (nineteen years ago)
― Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:08 (nineteen years ago)
― The sun sets on twelve tons of pickled onions. A dynasty is dying... (Dada), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:08 (nineteen years ago)
Then arm yourself with some more useful facts from here...
For example:
Asylum seekers receive benefits below the basic benefits level. A single adult receives only £37.77 per week in addition to accommodation and utilities – this is around 30% below the basic level of Income Support for a UK citizen, which is generally considered as the minimum level of income necessary to maintain an acceptable standard of living. Those with additional needs (such as pregnant women, families with young children, people with disabilities, victims of torture and the elderly) are also not entitled to additional special needs provisions or ‘passported’ benefits on the same terms as UK citizens.
According to a Reader’s digest Mori Poll (November 2000), most people also overestimate the amount of financial support received by asylum seekers, believing that they receive on average over £110 per week – nearly three times the actual amount.
Section 55 of the new UK Immigration and Asylum Act 2002 states that, asylum seekers who do not make their application ‘as soon as reasonably practicable’ after arrival are not eligible for any support, even if destitute – leaving many asylum seekers without any food or shelter. Yet there are very valid reasons why applicants do not apply upon arrival. For example, many are not familiar with the application procedures, and may fear that making an application while still at a port is likely to lead to immediate deportation.
Many asylum seekers have a strong desire to work and professional skills and experience to contribute at all levels of the UK economy. However, under UK policy they are prohibited from working to support themselves and their families while their claim is being decided.
Under the ‘dispersal scheme’ introduced under the 1999 Immigration and Asylum Act, asylum seekers are sent to regions around the UK to relieve the burden on the South-east of England. They are sent to areas with existing available accommodation - often those with surplus housing which local authorities are unable to otherwise fill.
Then get her sacked, then send her a witty email telling her to learn to spell "cheques" correctly in her next racist diatribe. I can't stand people who can't be arsed to learn English.
― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:09 (nineteen years ago)
― The sun sets on twelve tons of pickled onions. A dynasty is dying... (Dada), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:11 (nineteen years ago)
― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:11 (nineteen years ago)
I am running it through my head in the style of eg Lord Kitchener, and I think you are right.
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:12 (nineteen years ago)
Sometimes, to deal with these people, you have to understand *why* they think the things they do.
I mean, it probably doesn't make it any easier to have to work with her, and put up with her outbursts.
If you can at least see where she's coming from, you can try to tailor your discussions with her, to work on changing her core beliefs, rather than just getting in rows with her or getting aghast with her.
― Going Through The Motions (kate), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:13 (nineteen years ago)
― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:15 (nineteen years ago)
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:15 (nineteen years ago)
So maybe she should claim some of that VAST PILE OF BENEFITS that you can get just by asking!
I'm now having to be v. careful opening this thread, because if anyone saw me reading that poem on a work 'pooter I would be in serious trouble. If she's using her work email to forward racist material, she at least deserves an official bollocking.
― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:15 (nineteen years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:18 (nineteen years ago)
Arming yourself with the facts is a pretty good weapon.
I had my view on assylum seekers totally rearranged after that job at St. Mary's where I worked in close contact with them. Once you are dealing with people who are seeking medical treatment for being tortured, you kind of take a different view on it. Especially when you discover that the people most likely targeted for that kind of treatment by opressive regimes are the intelligensia - frustrating when you're working at a hospital with a chronic lack of staff, and here are trained medics who are not allowed to work.
But anyway, that's another story. Or maybe it is the story - that closer contact with the feared "these people" is the only thing that will change their minds. And you can only hope that her son is getting this education, and might work to change his mum's mind.
― Going Through The Motions (kate), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:20 (nineteen years ago)
This is roughly the same that I used to get when I was on the dole 6 years ago, although I think it was nearer £43 a week then (don't know if that was based on my circumstances being considerably different to those of an asylum seeker or a location thing or what).
― ;_; (blueski), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:20 (nineteen years ago)
A lot of the information certainly changed some of the perceptions I held.
― Rumpsy Pumpsy (Rumpie), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)
― Rumpsy Pumpsy (Rumpie), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:28 (nineteen years ago)
― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:28 (nineteen years ago)
― The sun sets on twelve tons of pickled onions. A dynasty is dying... (Dada), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)
― DG (D_To_The_G), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)
OMG, you're funnier than me!
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Monday, 6 November 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)
― Darramouss (Darramouss ftw), Monday, 6 November 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)
― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 6 November 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)
― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 6 November 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)
― Darramouss (Darramouss ftw), Monday, 6 November 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)
― Dear Cafes of London (kate), Monday, 6 November 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)
ROLLING N00B PWNING THREAD 2006
― benrique (Enrique), Monday, 6 November 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)
― suzy (suzy), Monday, 6 November 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)
― Darramouss (Darramouss ftw), Monday, 6 November 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)
― dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Monday, 6 November 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)
― benrique (Enrique), Monday, 6 November 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)
they're even worse outdoors.
― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 6 November 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)
― dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Monday, 6 November 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)
― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 6 November 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)
― benrique (Enrique), Monday, 6 November 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)
― ONIMO ph34rz teh NOIZE (GerryNemo), Monday, 6 November 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)
― ONIMO ph34rz teh NOIZE (GerryNemo), Monday, 6 November 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)
But Rumpy, based on this woman's poem-forwarding, she would be far more able to support her kids if she went on welfare and bought a big house! You just need to help motivate her to get out of the office and shoot for the breeding, truck-driving luxury of the welfare state.
― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 6 November 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)
There's this old American folkie chokies song called "I Wish I Was a Mole in the Ground." AND it sez:
I don't like the railroad manNo, I don't like a railroad manThe railroad man he will kill you when he canAnd drink up your blood like wine
Forward this to everyone you know within five minutes and let a train driver die LOL *xoxo*
― Abbott (Abbott), Monday, 6 November 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)
― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 6 November 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)
― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 6 November 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)
― benrique (Enrique), Monday, 6 November 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)
― and what (ooo), Monday, 6 November 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)
― === temporary username === (Mark C), Monday, 6 November 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)
Lady in my office, she say"Muslims they all bad!I no want my children learningall about Jihad!"
(etc for 15 stanzas)
― Slumpman (Slump Man), Monday, 6 November 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)
22 minutes later, Shi-ite pay-off involving Scary Muslim... shurely?
― Dadaismus (Takin' Funk to Heaven in '77) (Dada), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 10:22 (nineteen years ago)
― Rumpsy Pumpsy (Rumpie), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 10:30 (nineteen years ago)
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 11:14 (nineteen years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 11:22 (nineteen years ago)
― Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 11:39 (nineteen years ago)
― i am not a nugget (stevie), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 11:51 (nineteen years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 11:53 (nineteen years ago)
― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 11:53 (nineteen years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 12:05 (nineteen years ago)
blatant misogyny (sp)
― benrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 12:09 (nineteen years ago)
The sig could have been automatically ended to the edn of the messsage.
― ONIMO ph34rz teh NOIZE (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 12:11 (nineteen years ago)
― teh_kit returns! (g-kit), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 12:15 (nineteen years ago)
― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 12:21 (nineteen years ago)
― ONIMO ph34rz teh NOIZE (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 12:22 (nineteen years ago)
― benrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)
― Dadaismus (Takin' Funk to Heaven in '77) (Dada), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)
One-nil!
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)
― ONIMO ph34rz teh NOIZE (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)
― Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)
There's the Hitlers, the Himmlers, the Heydrichs
― Dadaismus (Takin' Funk to Heaven in '77) (Dada), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)
hey you'd think he'd have known he had his own website...
― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)
― DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)