Country music: Dumping ground for dried-up rock artists

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The lead singer of Keel (rembember them? "The Right to Rock" anyone?)

He was on one of those Where Are They Now shows a few years back and was doing the whole "I traded in the glitz and the glam, for this here ol' pick up" routine.

― darin (darin), Monday, 3 January 2005 21:10 (nineteen years ago) link

um, nelly's a pretty noted nascar fan, not sure of mcgraw's take on the nba though (he'd probably be wise to avoid karl malone though).

― blount, Monday, 3 January 2005 21:19 (nineteen years ago) link

nick i liked beck best when he was both at once!

― blount, Monday, 3 January 2005 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link

So the point is that artists that have expressed a pretty solid interest in country have been doing duets with country artists, and that the results are for the most part only popular among their country fans? Seems like pretty common cross-genre behavior. To use the most over-cited pseudo-collaboration ever, I'm pretty sure that when Aerosmith and Run DMC busted through that wall, there were a few fans that stayed on either side.

― mike h. (mike h.), Monday, 3 January 2005 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Kevin Fowler from Dangerous Toys is a country artists now...my friend who's my go to country expert likes him alot.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 3 January 2005 21:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I know this is supposed to be about rock artists but someone's already brought up the Nelly/Tim McGraw collaboration, so I'm going to throw this out: how does Kenny Rogers collaborating with Wyclef fit into the big picture?

― mike h. (mike h.), Monday, 3 January 2005 21:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Didn't Sheryl Crow originally come from a country angle in the first place?

Actually, looking at the artists listed, is there even a point to this thread besides "I hate country music"?

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 3 January 2005 22:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Could I be any more redundant in my first question?

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 3 January 2005 22:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Kenny Rogers was a rock artist before he was a country artists, so it's not really the same thing....

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 3 January 2005 22:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't know how to explain country music, but I know it when I see it. And I see some right here.

― Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 3 January 2005 22:29 (nineteen years ago) link

conway twitty was rockabilly, then country, right?

elvis himself went elvis country--after he went ballads, soundtrack tunes, everything else he did.

lots of these guys, like buffett, go for the country audience. but they're don't really play country music, not the same thing at all--in the perfect world no one lives in (which ought to be a country song title).

― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 3 January 2005 23:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Ah fer fuck's sake. Can we get a brief history of rock in here, folks. Jesus. (Over simplified, but still: Two words: Fender Telecaster)

Also where is the required "I don't like modern country, but I like old country" line from the token shithead who can only name two old country artists* when asked what the fuck that means? Cause that's totally my favorite part of any discussion that starts out as a thinly-veiled I Hate Country Rant.

* hint: one of them is Hank Sr, and the other is Johnny Cash

― martin m. (mushrush), Monday, 3 January 2005 23:17 (nineteen years ago) link

We hashed all that out during the 17 Day Threadbare Dementia on the Where Does Folk End And Country Begin? thread but now it is gone like the good old days, so I'm going back to liking Old School Country* and some of the better alt-Country#, while adding new cost-efficient strategy of watching year-end roundups of CMT to find something to salvage^ while still taking secret potshots at some of the array of behatted fools that I STILL don't like.

*such as George Jones!
#such as Neko Case!
^such as "Suds In The Bucket" or "Girls Lie Too"

― Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 3 January 2005 23:40 (nineteen years ago) link

um....so how come nobody has mentioned bret michaels yet?

― chuck, Monday, 3 January 2005 23:58 (nineteen years ago) link

and you guys know lionel richie has had country hits before, right?

― chuck, Monday, 3 January 2005 23:59 (nineteen years ago) link

cuz he's not 'dried-up' obv!!!

― blount, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

chuck, maybe you can explain why both Ray Charles and James Brown have cited Little Jimmy Dickens as an influence. If not, maybe somebody else can.

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 00:02 (nineteen years ago) link

What's the take on Bret Michael's BTW? Which is his best country album?

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 00:03 (nineteen years ago) link

and you guys saw the toby keith/aerosmith/run dmc collab on cmt this year, right? but i mean, face it, if rock radio didn't turn to utter shit in the past ten years, maybe some of these old farts wouldn't *have* to go country. but hey, country radio is where the drummers are these days, you know? not to mention the songs. not to mention, um, the rock. who rocks harder montgomery gentry or hoobastank? (so what i wanna know is, what the hell's taking tom petty so long???)

― chuck, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 00:03 (nineteen years ago) link

I have to say I don't mind Toby Keith but DMC embarrassed himself a little on the Superbowl thing or whatever it was. And aren't Tom Petty's bandmembers working on those Tift Merritt records?

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 00:09 (nineteen years ago) link

who rocks harder montgomery gentry or hoobastank?

Amen, brother... Assuming that that question is rhetorical and that the answer is what I think it is.

― martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 00:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Ken L, where is this 17 Day Threadbare Dementia on the Where Does Folk End And Country Begin?. I must read it.

Also, mentioning Suds in the Bucket makes you the Hero of this Thread.

― martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 01:01 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, my answer is the same as yours, martin, at least judging from the "amen brother: i was about to give you when you wrote this, which i agree with so much it's not funny:

"where is the required "I don't like modern country, but I like old country" line from the token shithead who can only name two old country artists* when asked what the fuck that means? Cause that's totally my favorite part of any discussion that starts out as a thinly-veiled I Hate Country Rant."

― chuck, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 01:05 (nineteen years ago) link

here you go martin, and i'll send you more threads you should read in a second:

Where does folk leave off and country begin?

― chuck, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 01:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Holy SHIT is my reaction to You Do Your Thing by Montgomery Gentry

― chuck, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 01:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks... So sad I have been keeping up with neither ILM nor ILE as well as I used to.

― martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 01:09 (nineteen years ago) link

rolling 2004 country thread

― chuck, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 01:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Big & Rich: Album of the Decade?

― chuck, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 01:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Why I Love Country Music

― chuck, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 01:13 (nineteen years ago) link

The all-new contemporary mainstream country thread

― chuck, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 01:15 (nineteen years ago) link

"...maybe you can explain why both Ray Charles and James Brown have cited Little Jimmy Dickens as an influence."

If I was to guess, I would imagine it was because they heard him many times on the Grand Ole Oprey.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 01:19 (nineteen years ago) link

That's a good answer, thanks. I personally never like his stuff, he always seems like an annoying novelty act.

Also, mentioning Suds in the Bucket makes you the Hero of this Thread.
So my strategy worked?!? I was afraid I was gonna end up the token S-head.

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 02:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Donny and Marie to thread.

Cracker's Countrysides is "country" I guess. I just like it is all.

― rat, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 22:50 (nineteen years ago) link

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