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Also Venom's "Armshouse" is the literal and logical conclusion to J0hn Darn13ll3's theory that "all UK Garage is Madness with guns".

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 18 March 2004 21:25 (twenty years ago) link

ugh, this dice thing...all my worst fears confirmed. grime producers ripping off kanye...WHY?!

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 25 March 2004 04:30 (twenty years ago) link

i mean right down to the clap-boom-boom-boom-clap and squeaky soul sample

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 25 March 2004 04:32 (twenty years ago) link

(actually i am sure some of this is pretty hot. i need to give it a better listen, on headphones maybe. i think i have some sort of weird trifean jingoistic reaction to hearing british people rocking over straight-up rap beats.)

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 25 March 2004 04:33 (twenty years ago) link

have it (Life's A Dice Game) on vinyl and like about 4 or 5 of the cuts but it hasn't drawn me back
prefer the more UK continuum + R&B girly / ragga sounding bits
the closer it gets to U.S. hip hop production the less interested I am

bought it for "Serious Thugs" though cos the 12" of that was O.S. at the time

― Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 25 March 2004 05:01 (twenty years ago) link

No, I think I agree with you both. It's a bit dodgy in many places. There are definitley one or two good tracks on there, but that's it.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 25 March 2004 05:43 (twenty years ago) link

No real surprises, for sure.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 25 March 2004 05:44 (twenty years ago) link

The only grime-becomes-hip hop tracks I've liked recently have been the J2k (dunno) and Flow Dan (Pass The Dutch) cuts on the Target tape.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 25 March 2004 05:45 (twenty years ago) link

i was gonna get that target mix from you but its in that pesk .m4a format.

j2k is a bit too mean to the ladies for my tastes.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 25 March 2004 05:47 (twenty years ago) link

oh yes, the m4a thing. I did that by accident. I'll fix it soon, so check back tomorrow.

Does that mean I am bad for liking J2K?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 25 March 2004 06:14 (twenty years ago) link

The Rephlex blurb is kind of silly, but am I the only person pleased to see they're engaging with this music head on, instead of getting one of their mates to record a dodgy Squarepusher-style parody of it? Not living in London, I'm welcoming any attempt to distribute this music that doesn't involve paying £7 for it.

― Jason J, Thursday, 25 March 2004 13:44 (twenty years ago) link

the new winamp does the m4a thing apparently. or get dbpoweramp with an add on to convert 'em.

― mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, 25 March 2004 13:48 (twenty years ago) link

that life's a die game was what i was refferring to when i said i blame dj samurari, thats his thing. in the advert he does for it he specifficaly calls it uk hiphop. hes a hiphop dj that does all the wikkawikka scrathy stuff and everything. his dream is to make grime become hiphop, then he'd be like the grandmaster flush of grime

― '''''', Thursday, 25 March 2004 18:03 (twenty years ago) link

re: rephlex, yeah i mean at least their going for it, its just ironic cos, well thier not releasing any grime on the 'grime' comp. as far as i can tell. i mean, i think it was a link up between rephlex and soulja/tempa or someone!

maybe they think that 'dubstep' is a tainted word.

― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 25 March 2004 18:19 (twenty years ago) link

New Upcoming Artists & Releases
UKG PRODUCERS: PH1 & BLACK TIGER

WATCH OUT FOR NEW RELEASES FROM UP & COMING PRODUCERS

DEBUT TRACKS: PUSH IT/SPACEHOPPER/SERIOUS/GREAT!

LISTEN OUT TO CREWS SUCH AS BOYZ N DA HOOD, MERIDIAN CREW PLAYING THESE DUBS!

RELEASE DATE: THIS SATURDAY 3RD APRIL

TRACKS AVAILABLE AT STORES SUCH AS RHTYHMN DIVISION/INDEPENDANCE RECORDS/UPTOWN RECORDS ETC!

WATCH OUT FOR FUTURE RELEASES FEATURING,
MERIDIAN VOCALS!!SKEPTA REMIXES!

― UKG1, Monday, 29 March 2004 01:03 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...

yeah skepta smacks it but Mr Fidget is going on an ill flex

― DeLinQuEnT, Wednesday, 14 April 2004 10:25 (twenty years ago) link

Ha ha Sticky's "Missin You" is a total grimette rip but is pretty great nonetheless - plinky plonky loveliness!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 15 April 2004 04:34 (twenty years ago) link

shystie step back rmx is still terrific, i should mention that again, dunno why ecclesia arent feeling it

― prima fassy (mwah), Thursday, 15 April 2004 09:08 (twenty years ago) link

(o hey can anyone help me work out why bbc won't stream 4 me, it's something to do with their own launcher thing cos when it's live you have the option to go straight thru into realplayer and that works fine, my realplayer is latest version, but i cant get into the archives. thnx)

― prima fassy (mwah), Thursday, 15 April 2004 09:13 (twenty years ago) link

4. If the text in the status window says 'Playing' but you still can't hear anything, check your speakers are on and the volume is turned up

FUCK YOUUUU BBC

― prima_fassy (mwah), Thursday, 15 April 2004 09:21 (twenty years ago) link

prima - keep clicking on it ('play' in the pop-up player box)
and even on the little speaker pictures on the list of DJ's at right side of the box. sometimes it takes me six or more tries to get it working (where you don't get the grey blahblah message...)
somedays I have more luck with it than others

― Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 15 April 2004 09:54 (twenty years ago) link

thnx paul, thing is i dont get even get play, i see: 'now playing' but never no %loading thing, and a pause symbol. it's like it's crashed, i click on anything. how'm i gonna hear benji b now...

― prima fassy (mwah), Thursday, 15 April 2004 10:41 (twenty years ago) link

i wonder if anyone in the world has been collecting dizzee's 'hoe'/'go' series, it seems to be his production sketchpad muse. or just some easy pocket money

― prima fassy (mwah), Thursday, 15 April 2004 10:44 (twenty years ago) link

btw u kneejerks i really wanna hear these minnie ripperton beats! "i sell charlie in stepney" WHAT WHAT

― prima fassy (mwah), Thursday, 15 April 2004 10:50 (twenty years ago) link

hey whos seen the conflict dvd!!! im watching it now and its really good! havent got to the bit ith crazy titch vs dizzee. but its got dizzee drinking ribena on it. also sharkie major jogging upo abnd down like he needs the toilet! and shit loads of good tunes...go to independance to get yr copy before it sells out!

see what people have ben saying about demon and his high voice. just bought that 'gansta toyz; tune with him and kano, but i havent got a record player here to hear it. whats new in grime?

""The grimey boys are here to stay", NME

?!?!?!?!

― ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 18:05 (twenty years ago) link

"Stop calling me 'Grimey'"

http://members.tripod.com/~gjohnk/GRIMEY.JPG

Father of "Real quality people actually want." Nuff respect due. RIP!

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 18:15 (twenty years ago) link

ohshit!!!!!!!!!!!!! i just heard the best tune ever!!!!!!!!

its got this sort of 'hoe' like beat, but just this this amazing pizzicato viola sound with a bowed cello bassline. have to know what this tune is!!!?!?! its only on for a minute in the dvd, then wiley tells carnage to put something else on?!?! wtf?

― ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 18:16 (twenty years ago) link

prima - I like "Hoe 4" & splashed for it
Plasticman played it at Volume Rephlex vs Kompakt night

heavily-reversed, body-baffling stuff - but kinda clunky
so it kindof just smacks you up "I Luv You" style
sounded great at high volume - like some Egyptian tomb opening

ambrose, your excitement reminded me of how I feel about
"What Have You Done"
gotta get that
Kano really is the champ after Dizzee
- can't wait to hear him do a whole album

― Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 29 April 2004 02:43 (twenty years ago) link

actually I can wait, since he seems to be on course as is

― Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 29 April 2004 02:46 (twenty years ago) link

yeah kano is definitely due a breakthrough. are all the majors/record companies with a bit of cash just going to carrying on ignoring all these unsigned people?

just got box bloody fresh. its pretty slick as a whole package. east co seem to be a bit ignored, but this is tight!

― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 29 April 2004 07:22 (twenty years ago) link

kano 'what have you done' YESS ive been trying to id this tune for ages!! did 1xtra play it or something, it's utterly amazing

― prima fassy (mwah), Thursday, 29 April 2004 10:01 (twenty years ago) link

does everyone know that wiley once fell through a garage roof? i find hat amusing.

tune i'm currently feeling: j sweet - gutter (alias remix)

― myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Thursday, 29 April 2004 15:09 (twenty years ago) link

sorry to cut in, but i've just found my favourite definition of the genre so far: "Grime" — a contentious term at present — is a British analogue to hiphop (which evolved quite distinctly from hiphop, being an outgrowth of UK ga-rage) featuring rapid-fire, often social-realist rhymes over oddly baroque-sounding synthesizer continuos. (luc sante, new york review of books, emphasis mine)

― m. (mitchlnw), Sunday, 2 May 2004 14:51 (twenty years ago) link

new york review of books?!

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 2 May 2004 14:52 (twenty years ago) link

kano, i don't think we're in kansas anymore

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 2 May 2004 14:53 (twenty years ago) link

NY Review of Books -- Yes it matters to You!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 2 May 2004 14:58 (twenty years ago) link

Grime is in the exact same position drum’n’bass was in the early ‘90s; it’s got so much potential, but the scene around it is populated by tawdry little turds, and it needs somebody like an Aphex or a Squarepusher to come along and take the sound to the next level.

― JoB ;-) (JoB), Monday, 10 May 2004 20:05 (twenty years ago) link

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― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 10 May 2004 20:07 (twenty years ago) link

job without actually wanting to open the link, can you tell me who wrote that so they can go on "the list"?

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 10 May 2004 20:07 (twenty years ago) link

I got to the part about 'proper music fans' and couldn't've hit 'Back' any quicker.

― Andy K (Andy K), Monday, 10 May 2004 20:12 (twenty years ago) link

i want to cheer that "faceless oik"

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 10 May 2004 20:46 (twenty years ago) link

you do all realise this is clearly a joke, right?

She sent me an incomprehensible text in reply that read, ‘dan u twt fcku and ur stpid sht msic’. I texted her back asking her to clarify what she’d written, but she just blanked me. I just need to crack her crazy txt code – perhaps she was offering me an olive branch of some kind…?

come on...

― toby (tsg20), Monday, 10 May 2004 20:47 (twenty years ago) link

haha ts: bad jokes vs. bad ideology

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 10 May 2004 20:48 (twenty years ago) link

also, toby, you'll forgive me for not giving jockey slut the immediate benefit of the doubt, being the "pitchfork of dance" that it is.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 10 May 2004 20:49 (twenty years ago) link

I daren’t even get it stocked in the shop until Wire magazine does a feature on it – we’d be overrun with Kappa’d-up mini-thugs in seconds!

yeah i think this may be sarcastic. or not. or both ... i mean, there's no reason that you can't hate the idea of "next level" grime and hate real straight-up grime simultaneously.

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 09:24 (twenty years ago) link

Does anybody know what the actual tracklist to disc 1 of Box Bloody Fresh is? (haven't checked disc 2 yet, probably fucked also)

― Lukas (lukas), Saturday, 22 May 2004 23:54 (twenty years ago) link

Not as bad as it could/should be:

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/story/0,13887,1219493,00.html

― myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Sunday, 23 May 2004 10:36 (twenty years ago) link

so what the fuck is going on with "the scene"? does anyone even care anymore? (i did, a lot, back in february or so, still. not sure if i do now.) are we just waiting to comment until each MC releases their big album?

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 23 May 2004 10:57 (twenty years ago) link

what we are watching is the degrimification of grime.

― myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Sunday, 23 May 2004 11:03 (twenty years ago) link

that's article's fine, a little dry perhaps, but appropriate for a 'the story so far' piece. (a maybe a teensy bit ideologically suspicious for ending on D E E's sean carter "I wanna be an artist, man" move, but eh).

― m. (mitchlnw), Sunday, 23 May 2004 12:19 (twenty years ago) link

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