counting my original CDs, and my homemade one's, I'd say I have around 480 original CDs and about 120 home burned ones.
So about a 6th of the music I possess on CD is pirate
NB : this ignores some errors like the fact some homeburnt CDs have tracks from boughts CDs; some of the bought CDs are my wife's; and ignores my entire cassette collection.
Still, what's the proportion for everyone else?
― phil jones (interstar), Friday, 31 January 2003 10:34 (twenty-three years ago)
the effect of file sharing for me is not that pirates will overtake bought, but that the whole amount will shrink. the "i wonder what thats like" purchases have now stopped. ive spent too much money on cds this way. now i download, find out what somethings like. more than 80% of my downloads are headed for the recycle bin. and i will now only buy cds i KNOW i will like a lot
― gareth (gareth), Friday, 31 January 2003 10:43 (twenty-three years ago)
― phil jones (interstar), Friday, 31 January 2003 10:54 (twenty-three years ago)
Actually, how is this different?
― phil jones (interstar), Friday, 31 January 2003 10:59 (twenty-three years ago)
the proportion will remain similar
the amount kept will be less
most of my mp3s i get rid of after 2 days because i dont like them
― gareth (gareth), Friday, 31 January 2003 11:08 (twenty-three years ago)
I don't hold with burnt CDs.
― DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 31 January 2003 11:10 (twenty-three years ago)
― nathalie (nathalie), Friday, 31 January 2003 11:18 (twenty-three years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 31 January 2003 11:20 (twenty-three years ago)
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 31 January 2003 11:24 (twenty-three years ago)
If I really like something I'll probably buy it even if I've got a burned copy. Same with tapes.
In this context is it 'burned' or 'burnt'? 'Burned' sounds more right even though it's probably wrong.
― James Ball (James Ball), Friday, 31 January 2003 11:29 (twenty-three years ago)
For the record, when I really love an album (which is often), I'll go out and buy it or order it online. So my actual store-purchased CDs are easily growing now at a faster rate than ever before, even if it still has nothing on the rate at which I trade and burn CDs. I justify it by telling myself that it's my duty as an editor to be as informed as possible, but really it's pure greed.
― Ryan Pitchfork, Friday, 31 January 2003 12:14 (twenty-three years ago)
― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Friday, 31 January 2003 12:46 (twenty-three years ago)
― dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 31 January 2003 13:12 (twenty-three years ago)
― Vic Funk, Friday, 31 January 2003 13:13 (twenty-three years ago)
― cecilia, Friday, 31 January 2003 13:22 (twenty-three years ago)
Actually, mp3 and CD-burning made me even more CD-phobe than before. I became the kind of person who doesn't want to buy an album only relased on CD. I'd rather spend days and weeks on soulseek to find it for free and burn it on a cd-r, without a booklet or other shit like that. I think the small size of a CD and its industrial, cold plastic packaging makes him perfect for a copy, with the name and title hand-written on the disc, but is definitely not compatible with the idea of a properly manufactured original album. Vinyl should be the only "official" format to release music.
― Etienne Menu (Etienne), Friday, 31 January 2003 13:22 (twenty-three years ago)
― Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 31 January 2003 13:39 (twenty-three years ago)
I'd like to count the mix CDs.
― phil jones (interstar), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:17 (twenty-three years ago)
I'd say I have around 480 original CDs and about 120 home burned ones.So about a 6th of the music I possess on CD is pirate
Let's rephrase that with better maths shall we ...
So about a 5th of the music I possess on CD is pirate
― phil jones (interstar), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:21 (twenty-three years ago)
― robin (robin), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:33 (twenty-three years ago)
I just yesterday got a CDR of Boards of Canada's Twoism -- i don't know if the guy who burnt it's a hack, but i've only found one disc player that'll spin it (not that it's so great, either).
Maybe my moral high ground is just draining my wallet, but i think the artists deserve their little chunk of royalty from my purchase.
― christoff (christoff), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:37 (twenty-three years ago)
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 31 January 2003 15:06 (twenty-three years ago)
I've only made a couple from downloading, mostly because they just are not available like Shellac's "Futurist" (paired with some 7"s I couldn't find), a cd of odd Tortoise tracks I couldn't get, and some Richie Hawtin remixes which are not out on CD. I'd probably purchase them if they were compiled and released, as these are MP3s made off of vinyl releases, so the quality really varies.
I made these a couple of years back when the Napster thing was just getting going and haven't even really looked for anything as such for well over a year or so. I'm on a dial up and don't really have the time or interest to track down more things via the web.
I've got around 300 lps and a box of 7"s, but none are boots as far as I know.
A couple of my krautrock Cds, like the Neu! and maybe a couple of others are of possible questionable origin, as they are oddball imports.
― earlnash, Friday, 31 January 2003 15:26 (twenty-three years ago)
― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Friday, 31 January 2003 15:35 (twenty-three years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 31 January 2003 15:39 (twenty-three years ago)
m.
― msp, Friday, 31 January 2003 17:27 (twenty-three years ago)
― jack cole (jackcole), Friday, 31 January 2003 17:48 (twenty-three years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 31 January 2003 18:54 (twenty-three years ago)
― brg30 (brg30), Friday, 31 January 2003 21:46 (twenty-three years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Saturday, 1 February 2003 04:03 (twenty-three years ago)
― Squirrel_Police, Saturday, 1 February 2003 06:02 (twenty-three years ago)
― Leee (Leee), Saturday, 1 February 2003 07:05 (twenty-three years ago)
― Amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 1 February 2003 07:30 (twenty-three years ago)
― felicity (felicity), Saturday, 1 February 2003 12:04 (twenty-three years ago)
I expect the proportion to remain pretty constant.
I buy a hell of a lot more CDs than most people I know (not counting ILMers)
― mei (mei), Saturday, 1 February 2003 17:40 (twenty-three years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 1 February 2003 17:42 (twenty-three years ago)
but I do have three and a half thousand mp3s.
― RJG (RJG), Saturday, 1 February 2003 17:49 (twenty-three years ago)
― doug (doug), Saturday, 1 February 2003 18:32 (twenty-three years ago)
― Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 1 February 2003 18:53 (twenty-three years ago)
― zemko (bob), Saturday, 1 February 2003 18:58 (twenty-three years ago)
But I still have just under 1000 records, normal CDs and tapes, and I still buy albums for real so I doubt I'll ever have more "pirated" material than legit.
Um, unless you count promos and used stuff...I wouldn't be surprised if only half of my purchases resulted in royalties for the artist.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 1 February 2003 19:03 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ian Johnson, Saturday, 1 February 2003 19:30 (twenty-three years ago)
― Curtis Stephens, Saturday, 1 February 2003 20:24 (twenty-three years ago)
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Sunday, 2 February 2003 22:10 (twenty-three years ago)
― JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Sunday, 2 February 2003 22:27 (twenty-three years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 3 February 2003 02:43 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 February 2003 02:51 (twenty-three years ago)
― bobby j, Monday, 3 February 2003 02:58 (twenty-three years ago)
― keith (keithmcl), Monday, 3 February 2003 03:33 (twenty-three years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 3 February 2003 03:37 (twenty-three years ago)
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 3 February 2003 17:56 (twenty-three years ago)
― matt riedl (veal), Monday, 3 February 2003 18:04 (twenty-three years ago)
― Bruce Urquhart (Bruce Urquhart), Monday, 3 February 2003 18:35 (twenty-three years ago)
― Nick H, Monday, 3 February 2003 18:59 (twenty-three years ago)
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 00:14 (twenty-three years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 00:15 (twenty-three years ago)
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 00:51 (twenty-three years ago)
― A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 01:55 (twenty-three years ago)
― don weiner, Tuesday, 4 February 2003 04:31 (twenty-three years ago)
― don weiner, Tuesday, 4 February 2003 04:32 (twenty-three years ago)
― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 04:47 (twenty-three years ago)
― fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 16:14 (twenty-three years ago)
Have about 75 x C90's worth of old stuff taped from radio though, or of CD's/albums that ppl copied for me - or selected tracks from ones I've borrowed from them. (Have recently started using minidisc for this latter function - now have about 15 x 160 mins worth of this format.)
If I like most of the tracks on an album I've copied I will buy it eventually - although I do prefer to get it 2nd hand in that case - why bother paying full price when I've already got the music?(& can anyone tell me what the structure/dissemination of money is in that 'resale' sphere ? Once a CD has been bought once at a major store that does the stock returns and sales figures for it - it does drop off the industry's radar, right?)
If I actually had CD-R facilities, broadband access, and the understanding of how to do all this downloading & MP3 malarky I'd be getting in there while the going's good. I'm anxious about buying anything on spec these days - and every now and then you find works that either pale after a few listens or that take a while to grow on you.
I'm pretty un-concerned about depriving the music industry of my £ - apart from some ingrained resentments and attitudes I need to question (concerning perceived (maybe just image bluster)wastage/decadence going on at certain levels, and daft prejudices about the extent to which it's all a 'proper job' anyway haha), I bet the big corps who own the labels also make money from blank media anyway, and the music industry should be shifting to a more song-based structure for purchasing, instead of trying to maintain their mark-up margin on formats alot of us don't want. It's not as if most albums are prog-rock symphonic extravaganzas - majority of pop/rock stuff is a chain of individual short-stories, not some vast thematic narrative....
― Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 17:22 (twenty-three years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 17:31 (twenty-three years ago)
(Off to count my CDs)
― phil jones (interstar), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 05:28 (twenty years ago)
― Binjominia (Brilhante), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 20:04 (twenty years ago)
However, I do buy old records all the time. They're cheap, fun to own, and won't go out of style (vinyl is classic, baby).
― musically (musically), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 20:30 (twenty years ago)