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From http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/2999780.stm

"Destroy 'pirate' PCs, says politician


Senator Hatch said destroyed computers would show the government was serious
A US senator wants to develop new technology which would remotely destroy the computers of people who illegally download music tracks.
Senator Orrin Hatch, a Republican representing Utah, asked technology chiefs at a hearing in Washington about whether they could develop ways to damage or destroy the computers.

Legal experts have said any attack on people's computers would contravene the US's anti-hacking laws.

Mr Hatch said damaging computers "may be the only way you can teach someone about copyright".

"No-one is interested in destroying anyone's computer," said Randy Saaf from MediaDefender, a company which develops ways to disrupt illegal music downloads.

Serious clampdown

"If we can find some way to do this without destroying their machines, we'd be interested in hearing about that," Mr Hatch said.

There's no excuse for anyone violating copyright laws

Senator Orrin Hatch

"If that's the only way, then I'm all for destroying their machines."

He said if a few hundred thousand people suffered damage to their computers, the online community would realise the clampdown was serious.

He advocated sending two warnings to computer users about illegal downloads. On the third transgression, their computer would be destroyed or damaged.

"There's no excuse for anyone violating copyright laws," Mr Hatch added.

Mr Hatch is a composer himself, having earned some $18,000 (£11,125) from his music in the last year.

'Draconian measures'

Senator Patrick Leahy, the committee's senior Democrat member, later said he thought Mr Hatch's plan was too drastic.

"The rights of copyright holders need to be protected, but some draconian remedies that have been suggested would create more problems than they would solve," Mr Leahy said.

"We need to work together to find the right answers, and this is not one of them."

A spokesman for the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) said Mr Hatch was making a point that if networks did not clamp down on copyright infringement "Congress may be forced to consider stronger measures".

Last year, Democratic senator Howard Berman drew up a bill that would allow artists to carry out "hack-attacks" on the computers of people who had downloaded tracks illegitimately. "


Francine, Thursday, 19 June 2003 13:25 (twenty-two years ago)

also http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3003270.stm

"Music 'pirates' sent ultimatum


The recording industry is hitting back at copyright abuse
Four internet users at the centre of a legal dispute over copyright violations have been sent 'cease-and-desist' letters to stop them offering downloadable music for free.
The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), which represents musicians, said on Wednesday the names of four subscribers had been handed over by telecommunications company Verizon after a ruling by a US appeal court.

Spokesman Jonathan Lamy of the RIAA , which represents the music industry, said a fifth person was due to be sent a letter.

The RIAA had previously said it had not yet decided how it would proceed against the four people, or if it would name them publicly.

The association had sought the names of the subscribers under the 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act.

The act allows music companies to force internet providers to hand over names of people suspected of large-scale music 'piracy'.

On Tuesday, a US senator said he wanted to develop new technology which would remotely destroy the computers of people who illegally download music tracks.

Senator Orrin Hatch, a Republican representing Utah, asked technology chiefs at a hearing in Washington about whether they could develop ways to damage or destroy the computers, though legal experts argued it would contravene anti-hacking laws. "


Francine, Thursday, 19 June 2003 13:26 (twenty-two years ago)

can we stop posting duplicate threads abt this orrin hatch stuff, or least try and combine them?

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 19 June 2003 13:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Stand back - your computer will self-destruct

there's one on ile also, but i can't find it - it doesn't really mention him that much though

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 19 June 2003 13:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, but I had no idea that's what that other thread was about and I was not interested based on the subject line.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 19 June 2003 13:40 (twenty-two years ago)

We do all realize that Orrin Hatch does not create laws and pass them all by himself, right?

Just because he's ranting about it doesn't mean it's going to become real or anything.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 19 June 2003 14:07 (twenty-two years ago)

It will if he calls copyright infringement "unpatriotic"

dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 19 June 2003 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Orrin pulled down almost 20 Gs from his MUSIC last year? Hot damn!

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 19 June 2003 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

No-one worried about being fingerpointed at by the RIAA/Your ISP? Like in the second story here. I find that more worrying and far more likely that Sen. Hatch's proposals.

Jake, Thursday, 19 June 2003 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

i just thought you guys might appreciate this all too ironic news blip
http://wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,59305,00.html

Felcher (Felcher), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:10 (twenty-two years ago)


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