Whitehouse

my personal opinion is that each one has been an improvement on the last. so i'd start with "bird seed", then either "cruise" or "great white death".

ones to avoid: "total sex" is dull as a dishrag, and i found "new britain" fairly boring too

For a "claasic" try Dedicated to Peter Kurten, or Buchenwald.

they sound good in the car

-billyk

So 'Birdseed' is the consensus?

Live they're about 1/10th as good as Wolf Eyes though, so you didn't miss much there. Something to experience, sure, but nothin' for the life list, my man.

-- dave q (scrape10...), August 3rd, 2001.

Extremist Culture: Search And Destroy

I would not deny Billy Bennett the right to explore his art, either. But if I saw his sad pederast face within a mile of my family, I would happily gut him with a blunt pencil. And he could write an album about it, the unfunny cunt.

xpost scissors that was epic

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Intellectually, I understand what they do.

As a parent, as a human being maybe, I think they either aspire to or genuinely adopt a position that deserves nothing but contempt. Hitler didn't understand Nietzsche either.

I still prefer Genesis P tho. Especially since I found out him and me share an Alma Cogan.

(DRUNKAROOS!!!!! this girl nicole told me tonight she had a crush on me, but she wants to fuck my friend nate more. wtf?!?!?!)

HEY ROGER DO YOU KNOW NATE? HE IS KNIFESTORM.

My only experience with Whitehouse was buying the "Right To Kill" lp when it came out, 1985 or so. Some mail order catalogue recommended it. What a piece of shit that record was - squealing synths and some adenoid teenage Britkid squeaking "Scum of the earth!/I'll ruuuuuuuule with my cock!" Perhaps such tripe inspires fervid half-assed (faux) "Nietzschean" delusions of - what? - dominance? "empowerment"? in the hearts and minds of 14 year-old Public School Britkids with "issues", but c'mon ...! I mean, adults would really listen to this??? Really?

We weren't FRIGHTENED by the lp, no, far from it. We laughed mightily as the record spun round, then gleefully smashed it on the sidewalk at 4 a.m.

Or not.

He did indeed admire him greatly until Throbbing Gristle started putting out (in his words) "disco records" - how appropiately rockist and entirely unsurprising of William Bennett to be anti-disco in the late 1970s. The fact that Gen slagged off Whitehouse and their followers as saddoes probably didn't help either.

Some of my friends have their Motley Crue for comic relief/rowdy party music, I have my W'house. Hair metal and Whitehouse are both
kitschy, loud, and dumb, albeit in different ways...I guess. Why split hairs?

Andrew Mackenzie(Hafler Trio)used to write inflammatory "political essays" for the in-house Whitehouse 'zine, Kata.

WHitehouse never struck me as dumb though - if anything, they come over as alarmingly erudite and cultured, elitist even.

William Bennett = Derren Brown

definitely elitist. 'asceticists' was a great album, their best up to that point. how is the new one?

http://www.relacademy.freeuk.com/metrofeature.jpg

definitely elitist. 'asceticists' was a great album, their best up to that point. how is the new one?

Not as much fun as being "confronted by a girl in a string bikini"

amy whitehouse

barry whitehouse

barry whitehouse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7frX0-0qPOg

Shitehouse, amirite?

They're in the current issue of Wire by the way. Wire hedge their bets by having an arselicking "It was all that Peter Sotos' fault" feature/ interview and then giving their new album a right tonking.

"It was all that Peter Sotos' fault"

It may bear rereading but I didn't get that from the piece at all. I thought it was well written but not enlightening, to me at any rate

Boy I wuz angry up there. Like J0hn I've expended too much thought on their provocations in the past, when the answer was always to refuse to be provoked.

Bennett's been doing those "how to pull birds" lectures for a long time, it's been discussed elsewhere on ILX I'm sure.

I have an idea for an ILX scriptwriting jam session based on a day in the life of William Bennett - it essentially revolves around the one-joke proposition of Bennett being a smooth talking ladies man who occasionally erupts into a Whitehouse rant when things go wrong - and that's usually when his best mate, Pete Best, is shows up at the wrong time and spoils his seduction routine. Of course, Best always shouts in capitals. It's a pretty lame idea, but it's a rainy day and I'll kick it off if there are any takers.

Jim, I don't know what the new album is like but I've heard a few tracks and I liked 'em. Last one I owned was Quality Time - not heard Aestheticists. I like the direction they've been taking lyrically since the mid-90's. They really have stopped with the glamour cartoon sex-violence shock thing and just ploughed straight into the psychotherapeutic implications of their music, which makes a huge difference - it gives the whole racket some kind of heart and honesty.

New album is good! Great percussion (programming?)

Oh, anybody read his blog? Quite a laugh.

I've been reading his blog - I like it - esp. the way he insists on calling Gen P 'Neil Megson'.

The percussion is a welcome addition isn't it?

You know, text from the Relationship Academy blurb ( http://www.relacademy.freeuk.com/course.htm) would make a good Whitehouse lyric, if suitably enhanced with extra exlamation marks and question marks. For instance, imagine this being screamed by two men in their 40's over a pulsating Wasp synthesizer drone:

VERBAL SELF-DEFENCE
Have you ever found yourself under pressure to,
or annoyed by, the subtle put-downs, insults
and other confrontational verbal blows
that almost everyone uses from time to time??!
How fascinating would it be to know things about a person's personality
that even their best friends couldn't dare whisper???
What would it be like if you could know about another person's thoughts and intentions to an even deeper level of understanding??
Wouldn't it be so much easier for your own communication and responses?
What's your vision in life??
Your relationship values??
ARE YOU SEXY?!!??!

hey moley! I agree w/ you about the mid-90's lyrical turn, at this point they're clearly raiding their own self-help seminar speeches for the lyrics, their projects are merging. perhaps your thread idea would be a short one, but I think the brevity of your Halford thread only made it funnier

when I bought the compilation cream of the second coming in 92 or so, I thought for sure that'd be the only whitehouse album I'd ever ever need. but then I heard 'you don't have to say please', had to have that for pure comedy, then peter kurten's just a powerful record, and then in 95 quality time actually diversified their sound quite a bit... and then a few years ago 'wriggle like a fucking eel' came along, which is just a wonderful thing

'wriggle' is the only track I really like on bird seed. asceticists was the followup, an entire album of tracks following up on 'wriggle', maybe none quite as amazing. haven't heard the new one yet

Ah, it's Asceticists, not Aestheticists right? They could rightly own both titles.

I'm still smarting about the failure of the Halford thread. Expectations were so high after 'Ralf Hutter's Blind Date' and I feel I let the side down.

I don't like Sotos writing but Ive liked the music. To be honest, I can rarely even make out the lyrics, just sounds like screaming to me.

They seem very British, almost out of a Benny Hill sketch or something. Like they would be the police officers who caught him trying to get a grape he accidently dropped into some woman's cleavage, screaming and chasing in fast motion.

William Bennett Goes To The Movies

That's really marvellous.

RIP big men, or so it would seem

http://williambennett.blogspot.com/2008/02/act-final_14.html

severed heads, whitehouse, who will be next???

Oh god please not Sol Invictus next.

;_;

Wriggle Like a Fucking Eel

It scares me that I have such a strong negative reaction to their stuff. Sonically I enjoy it. It completely comes down to the professed advocacy of violence against the weak.
M is no more morally obvious than Dedicated to Peter Kurten, but at least it doesn't seek glamour/controversy by easy association.

-- noodle vague (noodle vague), Friday, 14 May 2004 02:43 (3 years ago) Link

I think this has been why I've always like Japanese noise more than most of the western stuff. I get the feeling (and I've read in interviews as well) that Masonna and Merzbow and C.C.C.C. are exploring themselves and their own personal extremes and just getting off on the religious force of being unstructured and loud whereas a lot of non japanese power electronics stuff is about I'M DESTROYING YOU, I AM LOUD AND STRONG YEAH!!! It's actually boring. That doesn't count for a lot of this new wave of American stuff which is strongly influenced by the japanese stuff though.

oh come on, whitehouse is smart and fucking hysterical, and political, and smart. you little cunt. merzbow's aight, massonna is great, cccc rules. i'm honestly not a 'pure' 'noise' fan (sorry about the scare quotes, but you know what i mean). the only american knock-offs or whatever that entails i can really get with are kevin drumm, who is fucking amazing and not 'noise' as much as he is 'minimalist' and 'metal,' are damion romero and someone else i'm forgetting, and DAMION ROMERO. i honestly loved the one prurient disc i've heard and john wiese and others........ 'noise' doesn't even begin to describe it

that photo of bennett with the tequila on his blog is fucking hilarious

link

Who's this then? Have a guess.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/DJ-Benetti/12757876017

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1086518&id=12757876017

Sneaky Pete's is back to the old name, then?

I'm enjoying the fiiiiillm

"I don't want to sir"

link

-- strgn, Saturday, 5 July 2008 20:47 (1 month ago) Bookmark Link

http://williambennett.blogspot.com/2008/04/la-fiesta-de-abril.html

If every band were a town, then Whitehouse would be Milton Keynes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PudtJhl5ipc

hmm, scanned through the thread and nothing on New Britain, which was always my favourite record of theirs / the only one I could really listen to more than twice. New Britain is quieter, glitchy, great.

I couldn't be doing with the shouting screaming shouting unless I was actually there watching Bennett / Best etc do it live. They were pretty impressive live. I presume you know that if you're here reading on this page, but really I wanted to say: I like New Britain a lot.

I like pretty much all Whitehouse but Great White Death is the one I return to most often.

the ish where they dont talk is perhaps paradoxically more confrontational

Anyone heard the Cut Hands stuff? Am tempted..

not heard it yet but two or three of the tracks are just the afro noise tracks on the last few Whitehouse albums. which is a fairly dubious bit of recycling imho

william bennett in essential logic >>>>>> whitehouse by a factor of about 1000

yeah, but there are tons of things that work equally well in that equation

dog with digestive obstruction >>>>> whitehouse by a factor of about 1000

ha!

Essential Logic was such a great band.

I saw Whitehouse about six years ago. It was...underwhelming. Kind of campy and funny, though. I think I was hoping for a stage show more along the lines of SPK. Plus it wasn't nearly loud enough, though that could've been the venue's fault.

the show i saw was loud, and huge, and amazing - one of the, if not the, greatest shows i've ever seen

cut hands was aoty for me

oh come on, whitehouse is smart and fucking hysterical, and political, and smart. you little cunt.

cut hands is good stuff

Best live show I saw all year.

seeing him tonight :)

Essential Logic was such a great band!

"Fanfare in the Garden"