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Justyn, Kelly was a tremendous artist, but I think I'd still rate Watterson ahead of him, for the energy levels. I'm a very big admirer of C&H in pretty much every respect.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 17:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

seven months pass...

Reviving because of the latest Watterson "where is he now?" update.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 1 December 2003 19:43 (twenty years ago) link

Heh, I was flipping through the tenth anniversary collection last night, by chance. As amazing.

"It's psychosomatic. You need a lobotomy. I'll get a saw."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 1 December 2003 20:00 (twenty years ago) link

Good timing, as I've been going through the collections again too. Brilliant strip, probably my favourite of all time. I miss it.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 1 December 2003 21:51 (twenty years ago) link

My whole theory about him just getting away from it all is simple -- he wants to? Let him. He owes nobody anything beyond his friends and family and my sense has always been that he values them beyond description.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 1 December 2003 21:54 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, he's absolutely entitled to quit and do nothing for the rest of his life. He deserves to be rich for ten years of such greatness. Nonetheless, I'd be so pleased if he started it again, or something new.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 1 December 2003 21:56 (twenty years ago) link

Wait, just finished the article...OPUS? He's back? WHERE WHERE WHERE WHERE?

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 1 December 2003 22:13 (twenty years ago) link

Behold:

http://www.berkeleybreathed.com/opus_returns.html

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 1 December 2003 22:19 (twenty years ago) link

So, I'm guessing that tossing panties [in celebration] at a toon penguin would be perverted?

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 1 December 2003 22:36 (twenty years ago) link

"Outland" got pretty dire as it evolved. The first two "Opus" strips suggest a continuation of where "Outland" left off, but hopefully it will amount to much more than that.

I preferred his daily strips though.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 1 December 2003 23:07 (twenty years ago) link

"It's psychosomatic. You need a lobotomy. I'll get a saw"

this is one from of the funniest strips. i love those ones where watterson does (what he declares to be) lame marvel rip offs, they are so silly. also into the poantheon of greatness- the one where he starts seeling homemade lemonade for $5 a glass, and as Mark S noted, every single one that involved snowmen or sculpture in snow. esp the modern art ones. kinda obvious but they hurt my sides, sort of....

― ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 00:29 (twenty years ago) link

Opus?! sweet. I was absolutley obsessed with Bloom County from about age 12--> Even though a lot of the socio-political satire was probably over my head (hell, it probably naturalized me to some degree)

Your right, though, Outland kinda petered out.

― Will (will), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 01:26 (twenty years ago) link

The first Outland collection is quite good, the one called Politically Incorrect or some such. I'd venture to say that the only strip that brought me more personal joy that C&H was Breathed's Bloom County. If you want to talk your Sartre and your hell is other people, Milo's Meadow is an almost perfect model.

Favorite C&H strips? I love the one drawn up in 50s film noir involving Calvin and Susie, when they're playing house, and Calvin's character, puffing a pipe, longs for a divorce and rejects their "baby" (a plush pg, if I remember). I also like the one where Calvin scuplts his parents an ashtray, and Hobbes points out that Calbvin's parents don't smoke, and Calvin shouts "OK, Michaelangelo, YOU sculpt something!!" But of course, it's all in the drawings. I can't do any of them justice.

Favorite snowman strip is when Calvin gathers a crowd of horrified onlooking snowmen gasping at the sight of a dismembered snowman lying at the foot of his father's parked car. Calvin's dad: "I think we better get that kid to a psychiatrist."

― roger adultery, Tuesday, 2 December 2003 01:54 (twenty years ago) link

just watched the Charlie Brown Christmas special for the hundreth time, and I still really, really hate the fucking thing. I'm actually surprised the liberals haven't pulled the plug on this yet. But I don't hate it because it's non-secular, I hate it because it's so lame. The whole thing reeks of something The Simpsons would lampoon, but this is for real. How can anyone enjoy this stupid cartoon?

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:31 (twenty years ago) link

:-( You hurt me in my heart.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:32 (twenty years ago) link

just watched the Charlie Brown Christmas special for the hundreth time, and I still really, really hate the fucking thing

The hundred-and-first viewing will change that, I promise.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 03:03 (twenty years ago) link

possibly the most accurate representation of childhood ever?

Family Circus is the most accurate representation of childhood evah.

― The Yellow Kid, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 03:40 (twenty years ago) link

Or possibly Broomhilda.

― The Yellow Kid, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 03:40 (twenty years ago) link

i'm going to put a decal of calvin pissing - ON MY TRUCK!! it's going to be BITCHIN

i am also going to scratch off the letters so that instead of toyota it says either "YO" or "TOY" it's going to be AWESOME

― ron (ron), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 06:02 (twenty years ago) link

christ, i love C & H and all but all the Peanuts bashing on this thread from oh-so-hip post-Simpsons kids makes me want to beat my head against the wall. have you people got no fucking SOUL?

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 06:43 (twenty years ago) link

Weird. No more than an hour ago, I read a great, five-page-long online article about an artist who went out several years ago at the top of his game, and who's been pretty much a recluse ever since, never really explaining why he left. An article that quotes the locals, interjects personal comments, etc. The article was about Jeff Mangum of Neutral Milk Hotel.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 06:54 (twenty years ago) link

This thread made me do a search, and I found this

Let's enter Nerve.com's bad erotica writing contest!

WOW

― sucka (sucka), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 13:55 (twenty years ago) link

Calvin & Hobbes == Tweeists
Peanuts == Geezaesthes
Surely Peanuts == emo?

― The Yellow Kid, Sunday, 7 December 2003 09:45 (twenty years ago) link

emo = clever twee cuteness disguised as fake unhappiness
Peanuts = genuine incredibly bleak fucked-upness disguised as clever twee cuteness

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 7 December 2003 10:04 (twenty years ago) link

they posted audio clips from the gary groth/charles schulz interview on the comics journal site last month. TRULY CLASSIC quote from same: asked what he thinks of "dennis the menace," schulz sez: "i don't like annoying little kids."

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 7 December 2003 10:19 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...

I love Calvin & Hobbes.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link

It was my religion for several years.

― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 23:55 (nineteen years ago) link

possibly the most accurate representation of [stable middle class Western] childhood ever

― Chinua Achebe, Thursday, 6 January 2005 00:06 (nineteen years ago) link

What I love about C&H is the fact that I can pick up any of the books, flip to a random comic, and either laugh out loud at a strip I've loved in the past or discover something completely new and genius in a strip I've already read but haven't quite appreciated. There's so much great grown-up humor to compliment the already hilarious kid stuff. Anyone can enjoy it.

And for going on 10 years now, the only thing that has continually gotten me close to crying is the last strip. The emptyness of the last panel just opens a hole in my heart like nothing else.

― lemin (lemin), Thursday, 6 January 2005 00:38 (nineteen years ago) link

huge DUD. the reason why:
http://www.decaldriveway.com/shop/productPics/cus001.jpg

― contribute, Thursday, 6 January 2005 00:39 (nineteen years ago) link

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/tracerhand/calvin_remix.jpg

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Thursday, 6 January 2005 00:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Who else imagines Calvin as George W. Bush's childhood self--destructive, unable to pay attention, contemptuous of the joys of intellectual discipline, spoiled little rich fuck, cute?

― Leibniz # Pasal, Thursday, 6 January 2005 00:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Calvin's not rich. Also, even sans schooling he's smarter and more articulate than W.

― lemin (lemin), Thursday, 6 January 2005 00:57 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Revive!

If you say "dud" you have no soul.

And remember, at midnight opposite day is over, right?

"Yes."

Calvin and Hobbes fans, feast your eyes on this!!

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 01:12 (nineteen years ago) link

B-b-b-b-b-b-b-but I already HAVE ALL THE BOOKS!!!

― Jimmy Mod Knows You Eat Your Own Farts (ModJ), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 01:38 (nineteen years ago) link

But you don't have them in hardcover editions with a handsome slipcover!

Sadly, I have to buy this. This is not going to be optional, even though I also have the individual books. CURSES.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 02:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I must have.

― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 03:18 (nineteen years ago) link

I think I will do the better option and see if my family wants to go in on this as a gift for my dad for Xmas (we did similar last year with The Complete Far Side, which had him paralytic with laughter for all of Xmas day).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 03:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I've got to have this, too. I don't care that I have all the books... I don't have a choice!

― luna's e, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 04:20 (nineteen years ago) link

OH YEEEEEAAHHHH!

(oh no!)

― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 08:42 (nineteen years ago) link

This thread (revival) made me get all my C&H books out from the "kids books" box and wonder why the hell I hadn't unpacked them ages ago (okay, need another bookshelf, but still!) So I read a bit before bed and seriously had the best dreams I've had in ages and woke up feeling really happy. So. nice.

I also need that book, wow. It's going to sell *a lot* as a Christmas present.

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 12:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Why did you have to post that link!? Egads, I will have to purchase that.

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:23 (nineteen years ago) link

i think this is gonna be the definitive edition that will be on my bookshelf long after the paperback C&H's get turned to dust or torn up or whatever happens to books when young kids get a hold of them. if anything is worth it, this is.

― lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link

watterson was a professed atheist, right? well, somehow i was aware of this as a 7th grader and a son of a baptist minister. i also knew my dad was aware of the fact. but we loved the strip as a family. LOVED it. had the books, etc. which was kinda strange looking back. enjoying the work of a known atheist as a family. props to my folks for not being complete dumbasses.

― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

it doesn't look like there'll be new strips and it's a blatant ploy to sell some new book or other, but...

http://www.amuniversal.com/ups/features/thereturn/index.htm

― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Friday, 27 May 2005 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Wasn’t Hobbes always going on about New Orleans and/or jazz? OR something? God, that strip was one of the ONLY reasons to read the funnies as a kid and it’s still wonderful. As someone who didn’t have many close friends as a kid (before and after the age of 7) and spent a lot of time using my imagination to stave off boredom, I related to C&H a lot, though that realization’s just hitting me as I read this thread.

Bloom County appealed to my sense of the bizarre, a weird-take on pop culture at its best and just B.Breathed losing his mind at its worst.

I always liked Peanuts but it wasn’t really for kids, was it? I imagine you have to be middle aged to really GET that strip.

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 27 May 2005 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link

i find not so funny, maybe too sentimental nowadays, but it's beautifully drawn

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 27 May 2005 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I imagine you have to be middle aged to really GET that strip.

I must disagree, especially since you can say that just as much about Calvin and Hobbes in terms of the convoluted jokes and references. Both strips work astoundingly well for different ages -- the 3 year old Peanuts fan that is now the 34 year old one sez this, so it must be true. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 May 2005 15:51 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't think watterson was a professed atheist - certain C&H strips suggest he's agnostic (all the ones with calvin wondering about the philosophical implications of no santa claus), but he only gave like three interviews in his life so it's hard to say for sure.

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 27 May 2005 22:52 (eighteen years ago) link

My nephew, now grown, spent summers at my place when he was a kid, and though we shared many interests, this one was a standout. I still read the books from time to time, laugh a lot and think of him.

― jim wentworth (wench), Saturday, 28 May 2005 01:06 (eighteen years ago) link

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