how many ppl think "the streets" suck

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is it me or do 'The Streets' totally suck and are completely overrated? (excuse me for being redundant if this question's been asked already)

lyrics (from Could Well Be In):
I saw this thing on ITV the other week,
said, that if she played with her hair, she's probably keen
She's playin with her hair, well regularly,
so i reckon i could well be in.

― whoever (whoever), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

count me in!

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

yep

― don (don), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)

"I" am not a big fan of "them" either.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

i blame hstencil for this thread.

― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

aye!

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

me!

― Chris 'The Velvet Bingo' V (Chris V), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Infuckingdeed.

― rasheed wallace, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)

how many people think ILM sucks

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)

That's perhaps my favourite line on the album. It's not trying to be clever. It's just sweet, illustrating the daft things that go through human minds.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't start it, Marcello. You brits did.

I love I Love Music.

― ha stencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Like thinking about buying Streets albums, for example?

― daft things in mind, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I LIKE THE SONG WITH TH SYNTHS

― Be sure to Loop! Loop, Loop, Loop. (ex machina), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)

this is a really useful thread & clearly designed to stimulate involved discussion.

― pete b. (pete b.), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)

i listened to the new album last night for about the 5th time and it sounded wonderful, it really clicked. i think reading tim finney's bit on that other thread about each beat dramatizing the emotional content of the song really helped. i love this record now.

― pete b. (pete b.), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:24 (twenty-two years ago)

there's another 20 on the way threads like this on the way.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I can barely wait.

What? You say he has no flow? Cripes!

― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

so are you guys positing that it's now somehow "unfair" to be negatively critical of anything on ILM?

― ha stencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

It looks that way.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

i aint feeling the Streets at all. his whole style just drifts over me. bunch of basic presets and a few choice words (the best part i'm sure), nah. does nothing for me.

― mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

surely Mike Skinner and his supporters can handle a l'il negative heat.

― ha stencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

this is a really useful thread & clearly designed to stimulate involved discussion

Wrong. It's more like a quick headcount. Look for useful and involved elsewhere.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

NO I'M JUST SICK OF FOR THE THIRD YEAR IN A ROW HAVING TO READ "WHY DO I NOT LIKE UK GARAGE" THREADS ON THIS BOARD.

20 ABOUT ORIGINAL PIRATE MATERIAL, ABOUT 20 ABOUT DIZZEE RASCAL LAST YEAR AND NOW THE STREETS.

I think it's a perfectly valid feeling too. Why can't people just shut the fuck up, the idea that because something gets critical acclaim you have to scratch your head and go WHY ARE PEOPLE LIKING THIS publicly, over and over, is absurd.

You don't see me starting White Stripes threads or something.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't question why people like the Streets, and I don't think that's what this thread was asking. I do question why I don't like the Streets, and on further hearing the music, my questions are pretty much answered.

Also, White Stripes = non-starter. They suck harder than the Streets do.

― ha stencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

x-post... No no, Stence. But when the last Streets LP came out we seemed to have a bunch of threads which said the same thing, which rarely excited or illuminated particularly. I mean, go ahead, but at the same time if the critiques seem unimaginative, it's OK for us to comment on that, right?

― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

You don't see me starting White Stripes threads or something.

ILM's a big place. You could if you wanted to, y'know.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean, go ahead, but at the same time if the critiques seem unimaginative, it's OK for us to comment on that, right?

absolutely.

― ha stencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes but nobody starts threads going "what is all the fuss about the White Stripes for", dude check the archives, the level of unwarranted head scratching and "this is shit" type comments about the Streets first record and Boy In Da Corner is ridiculous.

It infuriates me when people feel just because something hits their radar it should be something they like, otherwise they might as well unload on it.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

x-post

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

at the same time, positive critiques can be just as unimaginative (although having read through most of the threads on the new album, that seems to not be the case so far).

― ha stencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Ronan you've never seen me battle with Nate in STP (tip a 40 to the departed) about the Strokes? And I would gladly start a White Stripes thread if you so like.

― ha stencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:34 (twenty-two years ago)

well that's the point isn't it - if people don't like the record why don't they engage with it on the discussion threads? starting endless snipey little 'i don't get it' threads just seems a bit unhelpful, somehow?

x-post

― pete b. (pete b.), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought of the Strokes yet, but the criticism threads are not nearly as common

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)

by that logic pete then I don't think you can fault people who just contributed to this thread, just the starter of it. And look, even its contentiousness is feeding discussion.

― ha stencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)

nor do they contain the same old criticisms, over and over

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought of the Strokes yet, but the criticism threads are not nearly as common

maybe us "haters" are scared of child-molester lists? Then again, not enough to post to this thread, ha!

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I love Dizzee to death, but I couldn't be less interested in Skinner. I guess that's where my wonderment comes from.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)

hstencil my only problem was with the guy who started the thread and his tone! of course i'm happy for you and others not to like the record!

― pete b. (pete b.), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)

nor do they contain the same old criticisms, over and over

there is no criticism on this thread, really, just people voicing dislike. We probably all have different reasons for disliking the Streets, some reasons that may even be inarticulateable (is that a word?).

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

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― Be sure to Loop! Loop, Loop, Loop. (ex machina), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

What's with the tremendous emotional investment in preventing negative sniping about The Streets? Who cares? It all just strikes me as protesting too much. And by posting on the sniping thread, you keep it alive. So what gives?

My reason for disliking the Streets? The lyrics and delivery seem calculatedly precious. I dislike stuff like Belle & Sebastian for the same reason.

― rasheed wallace, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)

for a message that's inarticulable, there's a hell a lot of threads started failing to articulate it:

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/searchresults.php?board=2&q=streets&mode=threads

(xpost - to stence)

― zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't like The Streets because I find the music behind his voice dumb. And that's about as complex as my reasons get.

― paulhw (paulhw), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

awful.

― ddb, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

zebedee - I meant that dislike of the Streets might be inarticulable, not like. I for one don't like what I've heard but I'd be hard-pressed to find a way to explain why. There's just something about the music that I don't have any time for.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

TEH SUYCK

― Be sure to Loop! Loop, Loop, Loop. (ex machina), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:45 (twenty-two years ago)

also, I can articulate a lot of auxillary reasons - the main one being the sponsorship/marketing of the Streets from Vice - but when it comes down to it there's something about the music that I find just sorta boring. Different strokes (what you talkin' 'bout Willis?!?!?) and all.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:45 (twenty-two years ago)

The Streets: what's the big deal?

The Streets: please explain.

Not sure about Dizzee Rascal ...

Dizzy Rascal: what drugs are you guys on?

this is the thread for people who don't think the streets are that great

Can Someone Please Explain The Streets To Me?

Dizee Rascal: Overrated?

Why are we supposed to take the Streets seriously and not MC Pitman?

I don't like that guy from The Streets

That's discounting any similar "WHAT IS THIS NEW MUSIC" sentiment in the threads where the title praises either Dizzee or the Streets.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

why tie Dizzee Rascal in with the Streets? They seem pretty significantly different to me.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Funny, I just was listening to this last night and thinking, "This just is not for me." The flow just doesn't hit me. It's the exact same way I feel about a movie like Snatch or Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. I can see where it goes down well for some, though. I'm not gonna say there's no value to it, but I don't feel it.

― frankE (frankE), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Skipping 108 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

sorry, dumb joke.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Ally: as you say, Master.

Yes stence but my point was that Paul is quite hip-hop friendly and designed to attract the US hip hop market (nothing wrong with that) so using him as an examplar of adventurous listening seemed a bit odd. I could have been misreading, of course.

― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Perhaps Mike Skinner should write a song about it.

ok xpost hstencil you're fired.

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)

America's chart flirtations with dancehall are (or were before the last couple of years) very few. The same goes for reggae and any other sort of islands/ethnic music.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)

oooh and the other interesting thing about Sean Paul/dancehall-hip-hop "influence" et al. is that I'd bet that the influence has traditionally been greatest in New York City, but that has changed significantly and there's more overlap/interplay/cross-influence/whathaveyou between the US South and the Caribbean than ever before. Maybe there's some sort of larger demographic shift that accounts for that, but I dunno what that would be specifically.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:17 (twenty-two years ago)

America's chart flirtations with dancehall are (or were before the last couple of years) very few.

Driving through Atlanta last summer I heard a dancehall commercial for McDonald's.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Allo Ally - yes I do know the remix, the Ashley Beedle one is alright as well but i love the original anyway

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)

in fact i walked home from a friend's on New Year's Day 2003 dancing on the street by myself to that 'Sopp remix thru my earphones

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

the thing is, yeah, I get disappointed now when iTunes plays the original instead of the remixes, I think it's just I only quite like the Streets, in the British sense of quite liking something and not the American sense. I really enjoy what Skinner does vocally, lyrically--but I don't enjoy what is being done musically about half the time, sometimes more.

Not sure why because it's not something like I don't enjoy the genre in general or whatever, perhaps I just think it'd be better if what he does vocally and lyrically is set to, I don't know, Daft Punk or something but OTOH I think that about all music.

xpost DANCING ON THE STREET BY YOURSELF IS FANTASTIC AND CLASSIC.

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Mike Skinner might get upset if somebody tries to dance on him.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)

what about the Audio Bullies-zay?

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Dancing On The Streets = an upset Mike Skinner
Dancing in the Streets = Mick Jagger and David Bowie killing a classic song

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I am disappointed in their album actually, I really like The Snow but nothing else on it is really grabbing my ear at all unfortunately.

haha does the Streets = band = pavement for driving hilarity ever END? OH NO I SAID PAVEMENT who will protect us from Malkmus!

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I still don't agree w/you all that often, Dom, but mea culpa.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)

A big part of ILM is just reaction to new releases, not all abt criticism.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)

PAVEMENT who will protect us from Malkmus!

I'm still trying to make a joke out of this.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Reaction to new releases is criticism though Jules.

― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)

*insert "Pavement is a joke in and of itself" comment here*

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)

hahaha Allyzay wins.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Reacting means either saying its good or terrible (or 'meh') but maybe not being able to articulate why.

I think if someone, having just heard the record, posts a thread six months after the record has been released instead of reviving some of the old ones from the archives is lame but its the circular nature of the board.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Much like the Saatchi thread and what Tim was saying, what I object to with (negative) criticism of The Streets is the inference (although it may be an insinuation, it's hard to tell) that because the critic doesn't get anything out of it, nobody else should be able to and anyone who does is being duped.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah I'm not saying it's good criticism but it's criticism.

I think of this board as more rhomboidal.

― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Three gurl rhomboid.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)

he's a novelty artist.

― thesplooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 17:11 (twenty-two years ago)

a more literate, lyrical jive bunny.

― thesplooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 17:11 (twenty-two years ago)

No that's Soulwax.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I LUV DA BEET FOR NOT ADDICTED IT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE I HAVE TOO MUCH LA COCA UP MY NOSTRIL

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

So, people ended up liking this thread after all? It's a funny old game!

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 18:26 (twenty-two years ago)

i can call you Greavsie at Glastonbury now

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

whoa okay I made a pretty ridiculous point re: British culture and America - obviously please take for certain that I mean "American pop culture circa now" and not American culture in general ('cause duh like we wouldn't exist duh). But I do think there obviously has been a huge shift away from British culture over time in America, to the point where we hardly understand each other's pop cultures. Are Anglophiles the original rockists?

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 27 May 2004 03:34 (twenty-two years ago)

1. Please can we have a moratorium on the whole relevance to America issue - the only thing more prevalent than the Boy does Dizzee/Skinner suck don't believe the hype argument on all their threads is the Yeah but it'll never make it in the US so THERE! argument.

2. The funny thing about the Emperor's New Clothes argument in relation to these two artists is that both were hyped on ILM before *any* published magazine discussed them (unless Touch or Deuce got in there but they sort of don't count anyway!) - we were the tailors!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 27 May 2004 05:03 (twenty-two years ago)

fine - "are the Streets gonna break in Uzbekistan?"

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 27 May 2004 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)

depends how thick the tarmac is

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 27 May 2004 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey guys, guess what, I think The Streets suck

― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 27 May 2004 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm sorry to hear that, I thought they'd be right up your, er, alley.

― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 27 May 2004 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

All your asphalt is belongs to us

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 27 May 2004 13:39 (twenty-two years ago)

people who like very little rap but are annoyed by Mike Skinner's terrible rapping.
Isn't it the Pete Rockists that only accept a certain type of rap that you're complaining about? I think that generalization is unfair.

Also, why is it legit to attack Anti-Pop Consortium (and their ilk) for having wack beats and no flow, but not the Streets? It's an equally cliched criticism for undie rap, but it's still a fair one.

― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I've inexplicably reversed my opinion on the new album after listening to it a few more times (but I'm still not fond of Original Pirate Material). I'm not sure I want to switch camps altogether, but I can no longer profess "The Streets suck" with any credibility.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Sunday, 6 June 2004 00:12 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

listen, i'm sorry to say that the whole rap element that 'the streets' try to blend with their "music" just falls completely short of anything one could regard as "entertaining". I am and eclectic music listener, and i'm sorry to say that hearing someone from my native nation of britain trying to rap is just sounds too unnatural.

― joe manchester, Sunday, 27 November 2005 04:08 (twenty years ago)

The Streets suck yo! I'm from the Bronx, NY and this shi** hurts my ears.
If you want somethin good, try try 50 Cent or Mos Def, straight-up gangsters from STATESIDE.

― gangbang3r, Sunday, 27 November 2005 04:14 (twenty years ago)

Criticisms of 'flow' are usually garbage (to a non rap-fan, most of the time) something either works with the music or it doesn't, sometimes it's about character, sometimes content. I can rarely get off on flow alone if the first two repel me.

Sadly, this is something like the norm for mainstream rap. Little of worth to say and usually an ugly & offensive way of saying it.

― fandango (fandango), Sunday, 27 November 2005 04:26 (twenty years ago)

Corny 4 life obviously in this department.

eh, i like the first streets album okay (weak spots but overall concept a win). a couple of the singles off the second are good enough but no real desire to investigate the full album AT ALL. and wouldn't care a bit if I hadn't liked the first one.

― fandango (fandango), Sunday, 27 November 2005 04:29 (twenty years ago)

I've always hated the smugness of the spoken word style lyrical delivery on the first album. Consequently The Streets suck, forever.

― blunt (blunt), Sunday, 27 November 2005 09:34 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

this thread is funny

― the streets suck (bato), Thursday, 12 January 2006 21:56 (twenty years ago)

four months pass...

What a joke of an album!, I can't believe any record label can allow shit like this to hit the shelves. This so called artist was crap from day one; give the boy some fish and chips and send him back to the shit-hole he's from. What a joke.

― t/rex, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 09:24 (twenty years ago)

Thanks to the Conservative MP for Surrey Heath and Times columnist Michael Gove for his comments, there.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 09:31 (twenty years ago)

The first album was pretty good and had some great tracks, album two - only listened to it nce, album three... should I bother?

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 09:49 (twenty years ago)

No.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 10:01 (twenty years ago)

Chewshabadoo - what he said !...except I'll go as far as to say the first album was really really good (for 4 months - then i never played it...but the boys at work did overkill it for me )

― grapple (grapple), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 10:05 (twenty years ago)

first album AMAZING second album WORST THING EVAH third album BOTHERD

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 10:22 (twenty years ago)

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